June 25, 2007
Posted: 09:00 AM ET

Vice President Dick Cheney

WASHINGTON (AP) — Democratic senators on Sunday chided Vice President Dick Cheney for declaring his office exempt from sections of a presidential order involving matters of national security. Republicans, more cautiously, said the matter deserves review.

At issue is a requirement that executive branch offices provide data on how much material they classify and declassify. That information is to be provided to the Information Security Oversight Office at The National Archives.

The White House contends that Cheney is complying properly. They say the presidential order was not intended to treat the vice president's office as an executive branch "agency," and therefore Cheney's office is exempt from the reporting requirement.

"The vice president is saying he's above the law, and the fact of the matter is, legal scholars are going to say this is preposterous," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., called Cheney's move "the height of arrogance." She said it might not be a bad idea — as some other Democrats have suggested — that money for Cheney's office be held up until he decides whether or not he's in the executive branch.
"I find this just amazing," she said.

Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., countered that conflicts between the White House and Congress over jurisdictional bounds are not unusual.

"Let the courts decide if there's something wrong here," he said.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was asked in January to resolve the legal dispute, but he has not yet ruled on the issue.

The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif, is investigating the matter.

"I don't think that the vice president, with all do respect to everyone, is saying that the law doesn't apply to him or that he's above the law," said Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas. "I think there are some legal interpretations. We have to look at those."

Wyden and Hutchison spoke on CNN's "Late Edition." Feinstein and Lott appeared on "Fox News Sunday."

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RightyTighty   June 27th, 2007 3:21 pm ET

This liberal Congress is the worst rated group of elected officials in history! Well done Nancy, keep up the good work..

Anonymous   June 26th, 2007 2:43 pm ET

Impeach him…he repeatedly abuses his position and hides from the public more than any other VP in history.

Clearly he seems to hiding something.

Richard you are forgetting this is a PUBLIC office and we have every right to know about what you do.

Quit acting like you are above the law.

Matt Houston, Texas   June 26th, 2007 1:50 pm ET

Cheney basically wants to make his office the 4th branch of the government. Back in 2001 he said he wasnt required to turn anything over to congress because he was part of the executive branch.

Now he doesnt have to turn anything over because he isnt part of the executive branch.

Where does this leave us?

What branch do you think he is going to claim he and his staff are a part of when it comes time to subpeona his staff members to figure out who was involved in the DA firings.

Rocco, West Palm Beach, FL   June 26th, 2007 7:28 am ET

The majority of Americans are more attracted to the Paris Hilton saga then the political and economic events taking place in the country. I think it is a travesty how the mainline network TV news fails to cover any of the critical issues of this administration. We are a corporate corrupt society with a majority of people not even knowing the American way of life is going up in smoke. The only refreshing event which took place yesterday was the high school students who challenged Bush about the torture America has taken advantage of in the name of security. How brave are those who sign that partition! The electorate in the country had better wake up and wake up fast.

Ryan, New York, NY   June 25th, 2007 4:22 pm ET

Josh,
There's a reason the investigations never end. If it weren't for the incessant roadblocks that bi-partisan commissions were forced to go around, these things could be wrapped up a lot quicker. Instead, we have Gonzales claiming he doesn't recall anything, the RNC deleting god knows how many emails from their servers that dealt with official White House business and should have been archived, and every other obstructionist tactic under the sun.

If anything about this administration had moved smoothly, maybe there would be less of an isistence to inspect these things, but it hasn't.

Also, not only is your Congressional approval rating not even close to any poll I've seen (averages were 25% last week, not 14%, to Bush's 29%), but how do you expect Congress' approval to rise amidst all of the filibustering? Congress is one huge power struggle between 535 people, whereas the Executive lets Bush run the show. People don't agree with how Congress is working together, but Bush doesn't even have deal with that. The Democrats don't have a large enough majority to do anything. Instead, nothing ever gets to a vote. Expect 1.5 more years of stalling, but at least that's better than 1.5 more years of moving in the same direction we have been traveling.

And one more thing, I'm not a Democrat either, but when you compare how much money was wasted on the Clinton impeachment, what the Democrats have spent so far on issues that actually affect us isn't that much. As a conservative, did you join your fellow conservatives in supporting that waste of my money?

Rick, Chicago Illinois   June 25th, 2007 4:20 pm ET

josh embry … "I’m talking about the Democratic congress overstepping its boundaries." Which branch of govt has been acting like the Constitution was written in pencil and has been overstepping it's boundaries for roughly 7 years now - with the help of 149 signing statements and Justice Department heads with selective memories? Answer: the Executive Branch - controlled by REPUBLICANS. When you're done talking about the republicans, THEN you can talk about the Dems.

The investigations are "senseless witch hunts concerning the firings of US Attorney Generals"? So nothing improper has occurred? Since when is undermining your country’s confidence in its judicial system via politicaly interferening in pending investigations and even with those conducting those investigations “dong nothing wrong”? And if there’s nothing to hide, as Bush supporters insist, then why is everybody hiding?

When you put all these pieces together - the unprecedented selective dismissals for “performance related” reasons after favorable job reviews; Gonzales caught blatantly lying about the extent of his knowledge and involvement; Dubya using executive privilege to try to prevent DOJ officials from testifying under oath; others promising to plead the 5th and then abruptly resigning; trying to hide e-mails about government business by using unofficial e-mail accounts; conveniently misplacing e-mails on the correct accounts; Goodling admitting she broke civil service laws by inappropriately taking political considerations into account for new hires; Sampson saying Gonzales testimony was “innacurate”; Goodling saying Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty’s testimony was "not fully candid"; and Gonzales selectively fuzzy recollection during his own testimony - it looks pretty damning as to the REAL reason the attorneys were let go - politics. And I’m sure you can imagine the HUGE blow it strikes to the public’s faith in the impartiality of the justice system in America when people start thinking maybe our legal system is operated via partisan rather than legal motives.

"These “investigations” never have endings, and waste lots of time and money." They'd have a real quick and sudden ending if the republicans under investigation would just fess up, stop hiding, and stop obstructing those investigations!

MCD, San Francisco, CA   June 25th, 2007 4:08 pm ET

Josh, I don't know where you get your news from but… Plame WAS a covert agent… that has been clearly established… otherwise there could not have been an investigation.
No-brainer.

josh embry, austin, tx   June 25th, 2007 3:31 pm ET

And one more thing…
To Ryan of NY. I would like to say that I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I am a Conservative and I believe in limited government. I don't like the expansion of government the Bush administration has created, but just as the president has expanded power in the executive branch. The Democratic congress and Senate are doing the exact same thing. These "investigations" never have endings, and waste lots of time and money. They only result in giving the people who initiate the investigations job security… which is a horrible use of all the money that comes out of my pay check.

josh embry, austin, tx   June 25th, 2007 3:20 pm ET

I'm talking about the Democratic congress overstepping its boundaries. There just looking to take as much power as possible. Either by senseless witch hunts concerning the firings of US Attorney Generals to the "leak" of a (non) covert CIA agent, to this with Cheney. The Democratic party has been out of power for a long time and now that they have the power in congress, they just can't wait to get even more. Which may be why the Democratic congress has an approval rating of around 14%… which is about half that of Mr. Bush's dismal rating. So don’t say it’s about checks and balances… it’s yet another witch hunt.

Los Angeles   June 25th, 2007 2:57 pm ET

This man is quite possibly most controversial and unpopular man EVER to serve as Vice-President.

I am afraid that there is a reason he seems to hide from the media and the oversight agencies that we the people established.

Republicans need to quit defending this man. If he did not doing anything wrong, then there should not be a problem with oversight.

Otherwise it makes him look really bad, as if he is hiding something.

Mike L. Crawford, DeMotte, Indiana   June 25th, 2007 2:05 pm ET

I believe all Mr. Chaney is doing is creating a vehicle where the Attorney General can rule against him, thus giving the illusion that the Attorney General is working for the betterment of the United States. This would be an easy way out of the scandal that they have in place with the Attorney General.

Ryan, New York, NY   June 25th, 2007 1:08 pm ET

To josh embry, austin, tx:
I think you forgot what party Cheney's in if you're talking about power grabs. If not, I hope you like the precedents these guys that you mindlessly follow are setting. You'll love it when the Democrats take the office and start acting the same way.

I wonder if then you'll say, "can't the Republicans just let (for example) Vice President Obama do the job he is legally entitled to do"?

Didn't think so. Just remember that all the things that they're doing to give themselves power will be available to future administrations, and you'll have to accept it then, even if you might disagree with them. You can look back at George, Dick, and Alberto and thank them and their short-term solutions that you agree with that created long-term problems.

Iain, Boston, MA   June 25th, 2007 1:07 pm ET

The democratic party. It’s all about grabbing as much power as they can. Can’t we just let the vice president do the job he is legally entitles to do?

Posted By josh embry, austin, tx : June 25, 2007 12:34 pm

Just because you're legally entitled to be something, doesn't mean you are exempt from oversight.

And ALL political parties want more power, not just the democrats.

IMO, he should be brought before both houses and investigated.
But, in the end, we all know what kind of Monkey show that would be.

Anonymous   June 25th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

He is sneaky, paranoid, and seemingly has a lot to hide.

Otherwise what's the big deal? You are a public official and we live in a democracy. The taxpayers have every right to have oversight over you…YES YOU RICHARD.

Furthermore, why do you act so sneaky not telling the media where you are have the time, not tell us what officials or business executives meet with you at your house, and what energy executives met with you on OFFICIAL visits to discuss energy policy.

No wonder you don't think you should have to accept any oversight.

josh embry, austin, tx   June 25th, 2007 12:34 pm ET

The democratic party. It's all about grabbing as much power as they can. Can't we just let the vice president do the job he is legally entitles to do?

JC,Michigan   June 25th, 2007 11:39 am ET

Talk about "No Confidence." I bet a lot of Senators would like to take back that vote to take Cheney over Tower for Sec Def. I think Putin and Chavez got their idea of Democracy from Cheney. I think it is time Cheney retired and if he disagrees then impeachment is fine.

Zac, Katy, TX   June 25th, 2007 11:08 am ET

I am curious as the rest of the country as to how these Yahoo's have stayed in office and not been impeached. They have betrayed the trust of the people and broken the law too many times to count.

Jim Jibbin, Rapid City, S. D.   June 25th, 2007 10:20 am ET

Excuse me but when did Cheney become exempt from answering for anything he has done to the American people or their representatives? Did he become some kind of super God when we were not looking? What an arrogant creep he is!

Sue, Dallas, TX   June 25th, 2007 9:01 am ET

Why have we allowed this rogue administration to continue? They have consistantly and blantantly skirted and defied the laws of this country. Their arrogance sickens me, but the fact that we allow it to continue is worse. When I hear the negative comments about the administration from around the world and I realize that I agree with them…something is wrong. These people are supposed to represent me, us. Instead I feel as if they are living in a world unto themselves, and the rest of us (and our silly laws)
are irrelevant. They are changing the face of our world…but not for the better. Why do we allow it to continue?

Rick A. Madison, WI   June 25th, 2007 9:01 am ET

Watched "All the President's Men" a few days ago. Remember Watergate.

Michael Dallas, TX   June 25th, 2007 8:42 am ET

When is this spineless Congress going to do something about the massive criminal behavior of this White House!! Cheney is so beyond the pale I don't even know where to begin. IMPEACH NOW!

Ted Taylor , Auburn WV   June 25th, 2007 12:52 am ET

chaney the king maker is and has always been an ego-manic. he runs king geo II like a puppet. he still is running Haliburton. they get all the big no-bid contracts, don't they?
I say impeach and imprison him! Otherwize you will hear the jackboots clomping down your street, You will need passports to cross state lines, you and your vehicle will be searched; you may be a terriost! Only a 2 party system will be allowed–The Rich and the poor and the poor can't vote!!!

John Montgomery, St. Petersburg, Florida   June 25th, 2007 12:21 am ET

If the Vice President is paid with funds approved for the executive and he claims he is not a part of the executive branch, why are we paying him?

Howard walker russellville, ky   June 24th, 2007 11:48 pm ET

The time has come to impeach Bush cheney & gongzales the are supposed to be for the people not to ruin american peoples support for this country thats being ruined by these persons

Don Fitzgerald, Chicago, Illinois   June 24th, 2007 9:00 pm ET

The nation voted for these two clowns twice, so, unfortunately, we are all stuck with these incompetents. May the time go swift and may we be blessed with a Senator Biden or Dodd as our next President. These men are the most competent of all the nominees. I just hope those responsible for Chaney/Bush will not committ that gross error and vote their ideology again. Instead, I hope they vote the most qualified and most forthright. If they do, I don't think America will be as embarrassed as it presently is, with Bush and Chaney at the helm. America deserves much better.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

Elaine Suhre   June 24th, 2007 8:31 pm ET

And this is what our country and representatives have come to. Cheney and Bush make their own laws while having the ability to change them any time it suits their agenda.

They both have their heads so high in the clouds oxygen is no longer getting to their brains.

The sad thing is, the only way, we as voting citizens can reverse the trend in government maintained by these two yahoos, is to vote out their party at the next election. In the meantime we all go down the tubes in the eyes of responsible US citizens and the rest of the Nations of the World.

We can no longer hold up our heads as US Citizens. The US is beginning to crumble. We had better start preserving our Art, Music and othre artifacts now, so future civilizations can tell we at one time did have a spark of decency.

TM Chtown PEI Canada   June 24th, 2007 7:38 pm ET

When I was a first grader our first readers were about Dick and Jane. I imagine the readers of first graders will be much more interesting now. As the Dick and George stories will be so much more intriging. And what is too deep for first graders to understand they can just leave out without going to the trouble to define legalities.

Robert Mann, Oneida, NY   June 24th, 2007 7:27 pm ET

1. No one is above the law.

2. As others have asked, what is he hiding? After all he works for us.

Two petitions calling for Cheney's impeachment are posted on the mSNBC political bulletin board.

George Jackson   June 24th, 2007 6:41 pm ET

People are just hating on Cheney because the man is so powerful and don't give a damn about what you and anyone else think of him. I say; drive on Cheney.

Mike Bailey, Columbia SC   June 24th, 2007 4:47 pm ET

I took civics in high school 4 decades ago and I only learned about three branches of government, the judicial, the legislative and the executive branch, I never heard of the Dick branch before and can anyone show me in the Constitution where it is covered, and how is VP Cheney the only one that can see it?

CARL, TALLAHASSEE, FL.   June 24th, 2007 4:32 pm ET

What an inventive gent Mr. Cheney is! Who else would assert he is untouchable because he is a fourth branch of government not answerable to anyone AND keep a scowl on his face while doing so? The man makes my skin crawl.

C.B. Colwell   June 24th, 2007 4:29 pm ET

Cheney will go down as the most corupt politian in the history of the USA. All that has to happen is to find out what he really has been up to for the last eight years. Oh, by the way where's Rumsfield? Dubai?

Norm, Glendora CA   June 24th, 2007 4:22 pm ET

The White House says that the presidential order was not intended to treat the vice president’s office as an “executive branch agency,” and therefore Cheney’s office is exempt from the reporting requirement. If that is the case, than he has no rights to claim “executive privilege” when he or his aids are asked to testify before Congress.

Rob, Indianapolis   June 24th, 2007 3:05 pm ET

How can he claim he's not in the executive branch and yet claim executive privilege at the same time?

Pick one and stick with it.

Isabel,Southbury, CT   June 24th, 2007 2:58 pm ET

I am surprised a serious investigation hasn't take place regarding Enron & Vice Pres Chaney and his decisions on the Judges that were fired and what is happening now and also the Elections and Pres Bush JR.
What is the problem??
Thank you

Russ Hackensack NJ   June 24th, 2007 2:20 pm ET

How could this crook still be in office. If the Media would do there job
he would of been gone by now. I guess he owns the media too.

MCD, San Francisco, CA   June 24th, 2007 1:58 pm ET

What is Cheney hiding or afraid of? Why is he so secretive? This is our government, not his. We have every right to know what is going on. He treats the people of the U.S. as if they were children who aren't smart to make their own decisions. And why is Bush so loyal to somebody who has given him nothing but bad advice and ruined any chance of him having even a "so-so" legacy?

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