Watch Bush discuss the Iraq Thursday.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – The House of Representatives voted 223-201 Thursday to require most U.S. troops to leave Iraq by April 1, 2008.
President Bush vetoed a war-spending bill with a similar withdrawal date in May and has threatened to spike any new effort to set a timetable for a U.S. pullout. His Republican allies in the House said the new measure has no chance of passage.
But House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said Thursday's mixed report on the progress of the war shows it's time for American troops to come home.
Why even bother if you can't get the votes needed? Bush has already proven he doesn't believe he's a servant of the people like the Constitution states. Der Fuhrer Bush is just gonna veto this one too.
This new report is not nearly as bleak as first thought. Eight of Eighteen benchmarks have been met. Puts congress in good shape to get the President to start drawing down troops over the next two yrs. Congress to kept some troops in Iraq. How many?
He continues to say we can succeed in Iraq, but has yet to say what that means. Complete peace on the streets? A safe place for the government to assemble?
We have won the war. We removed Saddam and established a democratic state. That was victory for the US. Now, we're stuck in a foreign country's civil war, fighting to protect their government. Exactly how does the US succeed in this situation? What do we win? A safer, stabilized Iraq is great for the Iraqis-and I think we should help them achieve it-but it's of little consequence to the US. We are not directly thwarting terror attacks. Our streets are not any better.
What we are doing is spending billions of dollars, some taxed and a lot borrowed, and losing American lives.
I disagree with pulling out every single troop tomorrow, but we should not be committing nearly all of our military to protect someone else's government. We should tell the international community that we have made a mistake, and though it is our responsibility, the only way Iraq can survive is with international involvement. Let's ask for help and bring home the troops that have served beyond their initial expectations, so that they can get back to their normal lives. Leave some there, fully geared, to train Iraqi forces and assist in peacekeeping.
It really doesn't matter. King Bush has made his decision, and only an impeachment will stop him. After all, he's the decider and he knows what's best.
Do I think we should have gone to war? That's water under the bridge. We're there now, so let's do what is necessary to finish it! Pulling out isn't finishing it. Part of teh problem is that, in the last few "conflicts" we've been too worried about what the rest of the world thinks. At this point, get in the necessary resources, get it done and get out. We need to win the war, not public opinion points.
Thanks for the opportunity to be able to type these comments. These words came from Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Illinois which I believe the Democrats should post in every state and make a TV commercial out of. (He stated that...Nearly 5 years of combat, 3610 Americans lives lost, 26,500 wounded & more than $450 billion spent & the White House say we are at the starting line in Iraq said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D.-Illinois. The president's strategy of more troops, more money, & more time in Iraq only will produce one thing, MORE OF THE SAME. It's time for a new direction in Iraq. This saying by him should be posted in every newspaper across the Unites States. And last, the American voters can change this by voting more Republicans out of office in 2008 so Democrats can pass the neccessary laws to get the soldiers home.
I thank God Congress is not able to run this war or any war. As childishly irresponsible as they are behaving, we'd all be dead. They know full well their action will not come to fruition, but they waste taxpayer's money, delay protective equipment from delivery to our troops. How evil can they get?
Yea, Der Fuhrer likes to think he's always right! When General Patraeus gives him the battle report in September; it will read something like, "we're on the move, we're on the hunt, we're making progress."
Posted By Mike, HI :
"I disagree with pulling out every single troop tomorrow, but we should not be committing nearly all of our military to protect someone else’s government. We should tell the international community that we have made a mistake, and though it is our responsibility, the only way Iraq can survive is with international involvement. Let’s ask for help and bring home the troops that have served beyond their initial expectations, so that they can get back to their normal lives. Leave some there, fully geared, to train Iraqi forces and assist in peacekeeping."
Mike, there are already great numbers of International Troops in Iraq. Our Canadian Military are now Afghanistan on that Peace Keeping Mission and some also deployed in other areas.
In fact, some are pulling their Nato Forces out of Iraq and decreasing the number of their forces due to the heavy burden this war is causing on THEIR military forces. I doubt George Bush is going to receive any more assistance from ISAF. For Example:
The Number of British Troops In Iraq Will Be Cut from 7,200 to 4,500
Turkey has 140,000 troops on Iraq border, foreign minister says.
The Associated Press. Published: July 9, 2007.
2007 – NATO will send an additional brigade to Afghanistan to help fight the insurgent Taliban. A brigade typically numbers from 1,500 to 3,500 troops–drawn, in this case, from the various nations participating in NATO's International Security Assistance Force.
Lt. Gen. David Richards:
He said the figure would increase from an average of about 3,000 in recent years to about 6,000 when ISAF assumes responsibility for the volatile region from the coalition next month.
January 3, 2007 Brig. Richard Nugee, spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force, said in Kabul on Wednesday.ISAF is an international force in Afghanistan that is composed of about 32,000 troops from 37 countries.
KABUL, Afghanistan, June 4, 2006 NATO will double the number of troops in southern Afghanistan when it takes over security from U.S. forces there next month in an attempt to quash the worst rebel violence since the fall of the Taliban in 2001, the force's commander said Sunday.
Ann Brunswick ME :
"I thank God Congress is not able to run this war or any war. As childishly irresponsible as they are behaving, we’d all be dead."
You seem to have a huge personal resentment against Congress? All your posts relay the same message. In fact, one of your posts stated you regretted you ever worked for the Democrats?
"waste taxpayer’s money, delay protective equipment from delivery to our troops. How evil can they get?"
C'Mon. You know Congress is not guilty of delaying equipment for our troops.
And wasting taxpayer's money! I think your ire is misdirected. It is Bush who has wasted taxpayers' monies on this war and plenty of it to date. Or at least I view Billions of US Dollars spent on Iraq with not one iota of success or victory a wast of taxpayers' money.
But more important, are the thousands of military and innocent lives lost to date as a result of this war. And as I remember, it was Bush not the Democrats that gave the order to Invade two countries with no justifiable cause and lacking any concrete strategy for the same.
Who cares what the house passes? Who cares what the American people want? Bush is the decision maker. Mission accomplished.
I am continually amazed at the arrogance of Congress. Since "taking over" the control in January, the Congress has done nothing but go on a witch hunt to discredit Bush in an attempt to get a Democrat in the White House. The entire process is making me sick. All you hear about right now is how bad Bush is, how low his approval rating is, etc. What about the Congressional approval rating? It is at an all time low, and has fallen dramatically over the past 6 months, yet no mention of that in the press. As a matter of fact, Bush's approval rating is higher than that of Congress, but again, you hear nothing of that.
Regarding Iraq, I would love to see our troops come home, but not until the work is finished. Yes, we have won the War, it is over, Sadaam is gone, BUT THE WORK IS NOT FINISHED. We must stabalize Iraq before leaving. We made this mess, for our own protection, and now we must make certain the area is stable and secure before we leave. Granted, as progress is made, troop withdrawal may begin. However, to set a time line now would be counter-productive.
Further, President Bush stated at the beginning of this surge that no change in policy would be made until September, until the surge had a chance to be implemented and show some level of result. Why Congress refuses to hear this message and wait until September is beyond me. Just another example of Democrats stirring the waters for their own benefit. All they have accomplished is alienating the average American against them, and fueling the resolve to have a clean sweep of Congress at the next election.
Regarding the White House: Be careful what you wish for...I firmly believe that Al-Queda is sitting back and waiting to see who is the next occupant, and if it is Obama or Clinton, we are in trouble. Al-Queda is not afraid of the Democrats. If the Dems win and we remove troops in 2008, then turn around and put a Democrat in the White House, oh my, I don't want to even want to think about that!!!
Hey Fred...it's July, time for you to get in the Campaign officially!!! We need you!!!!
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More than 180,000 civilians — including Americans, foreigners and Iraqis — are working in Iraq under U.S. contracts, according to State and Defense department figures obtained by the Los Angeles Times.
The numbers include at least 21,000 Americans, 43,000 foreign contractors and about 118,000 Iraqis — all employed in Iraq by U.S. tax dollars, according to the most recent government data.
As criticism of the Iraq war grows at home, some US soldiers abroad are rejecting Bush's mission. On military bases across Germany, many are now seeking a way out through desertion or early discharge.
Between October 2002 and September 2005, the two made an annual average of 1,546 such discharges. Last year the number grew to 1,988, or more than five per day.
Could you blame them? I can't. Bush is breaking the military not only in the US but Internationally!
You crazy ole libs won't be happy until our streets are attacked (again) by the whacko terrorists. 3,610 soldiers killed over five years. Every single one is a tragedy....but......we have thousands of Americans killed every year in one form or another by illegal aliens roaming this country. According to the FBI's Uniformed Crime Report, there were 16,692 people MURDERED in this country in 2005 ALONE! Aren't you crazy libs just a little worried about stats like that? You are worried about violence in Iraq? Isn't murder violent to you? That's more than 4 and a half times the number of troops killed in a WAR over five years. Come on you crazy libs.........use your brains before you speak. Don't get us all killed just because your Kool-Aid tastes good.
This report seems to say that some progress is being made. Wish that we knew how many troops will be left in Iraq after this surge is over. Its clear that congress isn't going to ask for full pullout anytime soon. There's signs everywhere that We might actually succeed in Iraq. What impact will that have?
John from Dayton:
If you support the Iraq war so much, then you might consider joining the fight. For two months in a row, recruiting at US Army recruiting offices are at an all time low, do you want to guess why?? Since your Pro-War it's your civic duty to enlist. Don't worry, you shouldn't have a long wait!!
Mike, Corpus Christi Texas
I have a Son and Grandson that has served time there. Thats what they are being paid for.
Guess what? Not only are we left wing whackos saying this "war" is unwinnable, but now your hero, Bill O'Reilly, has seen the light:
This is the beginning of the total collapse for support of this misadventure. Damn well about time.
Support our Troops. Get out of Iraq.
In case no one has noticed–we are getting closer and closer to this idea of "peace at any price"–bring our troops home regardless of the consequences. Just like Vietnam. I remind those who believe this "Peace at any price" philosophy that the price for their peace is usually death. Something to be considered.
Good luck to your kids! I'm a Vietnam Vet, and I know all about a QUAGMIRE! It's got nothing to do with the troops, but everything to do with the mission, and the mission is a FLAWED FAILURE! Bring Um Home!!!
Hopefully you will read my previous comment again. I read it over and realized that I did not say I supported the war in Iraq. So thank you for mis-quoting me (common crazy lib mistake). Secondly, I retired this past December after serving over 22 years in the Air Force and Air Force Reserve (yet another crazy lib mistake; drawing conclusions without facts). Unlike you, I would go anywhere in the world TODAY (without a second thought)and fight for your freedom to be an idiot and keep the terrorist out of our backyards, should I be asked to do so. You have no idea what it takes to be a soldier and thank God you are not one. Please do not enlist. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
Bush Cabol is reaping what it sewed!
To Mike, they disagree with you, Say we can fight these people here or at home. Got to go with those on the ground here.
Bush isn't going to budge in his war games anymore than he's going to start treating the United States like a sovereign nation instead of an asset in his personal portfolio.
To John from Dayton:
Too bad you can take a little sarcasm, guess you've just got some thin skin there John, but I won't hold that against you, you come from the ranks of many who just can't handle a harmless remark. It's just the way you and others keep putting down people of the opposite party, or who have a liberal point a view that is opposite your own, that's not helpful in a constructive debate. Examples are 'ole libs,' etc, while others like to use 'spinless wimps', and many other examples which I don't have the time to list here. I know exactly who you are targeting with those kind of insults. So, in your opinion, people like myself, and others who have served our country honorably in time of war, are less patriotic, than those who are Republican, or conservative in their political beliefs. I say to that opinion "BUNK!" CNN won't allow me to use anything stronger, but maybe you catch my drift?!
So I guess Democratic Senators like Jim Webb of Virginia, Navy Cross, Silver Star, and Purple Heart recipient, Vietnam; or John Kerry, Silver Star, Bronze Star, and 3 Purple Hearts, Vietnam; because they're Democrats, just don't make YOUR list of heros. That's a pathetic attitude John, to say the least! Not to mention the fact that more Democrats served with military distinction, than Republicans ever did, and that's a historical fact! You hardline conservatives are more than pathetic, you are discraceful!!