Voinovich told CNN he has warned Karl Rove that the president needs to salvage his legacy.

His legacy will be lies, deceit, abuse of power, and the blood of thousands of dead and wounded Americans on his hands!

“WE THE PEOPLE”

I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN BY ANY MEANS, I AM GLAD THAT SEN. VOINOVICH IS BEING BLUNT REGARDING AN IRRESPONSIBLE ADMINISTRATION AND ITS MISTAKES. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN APPRECIATE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM ITS LEADERS WHEN MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE.

Who gives a flying **** about this criminal's legacy? How about we fix Iraq for the sake of FIXING IRAQ?

Because the country, its citizens' safety, the soldiers' well being, our diplomatic relations and financial responsibility aren't important enough, now they're finally trying to hit him with something that directly affects him - HIS LEGACY?? What is wrong with these selfish morons?

You could make a documentary of this administration and people in the future would just think it was a black comedy along the lines of Dr. Strangelove.

Throughout the Bush administration's run, be it foreign policy, the war in Iraq, domestic spending cuts, or whatever, there has been an arrogant tone, a blatant "my way or nothing" attitude. The lop-sided tax cuts, the secrecy, the supreme court appointments, all of it brings me to belive that there is no "legacy" mentality here. The entire Bush run is nothing more than a sacrifice fly. No matter what, the rich will get richer, the war will generate billions in war profit, as well as attempt to establish an Americal-oil-intrest freindly regime in Iraq, and hang the fallout. I don't believe that bush, or the powers behind him care one bit about any "legacy". Its all money and power, legacy be hanged.

This shows exactly where the GOPs' heads are ( up their asses ) . They are only concerned with their own re-election and Bush's "legacy". What about all the troops that have been killed whose
"legacy" will never have a chance. Pathetic politicians, as usual.

I reallky don't think at this time Bush cares what his so called "Legacy" will be.
I will say he is and will continue to be the worst President this country has EVER seen/had and becoming quite fast the most HATED!
And I agree with both synopsis on him! I despise the ground he and Cheney walk on.
He should have been impeached for TREASON a long time ago!

I think it might be a bit too late for any salvageable legacy in Bush's regard.
Perhaps if he had listened years ago instead of pursuing his own administrations greed and power agenda, allowing himself to be a puppet for Cheney, Rove and countless others. Perhaps if he had not jeopardized the very Constitution that we as Americans hold so close. Perhaps in his 8 years in office, if for one moment he had dealt with real issues that affect 2/3rds of all Americans, like health care,disaster response, poverty etc.
Like so many Americans I was behind Bush in the beginning. Shouting the war cry after 9/11. I'm now ashamed of my position then, and can only hope that justice will be served against a Government that duped so many citizens into believing his agenda was just, when all along, "they" had a different plan.
Perhaps…….

I shudder to think what the Rove machine has planned to take down these brave GOP Congressmen who have dared to disagree with the President.
Thank God the Republicans are finally finding their back bones.
Will they too be accused of being un-patriotic, mis-guided, cut-and-run weaklings?

Does anything matter anymore. It's obvious that Bush is going to do what he wants anyway. The people don't matter, just his misguided band of halfwits that he calls advisers. Even they don't count, it's what he wants to do, anyway he can make it work.

I'm less worried about President Bush's legacy than I am about the Soldiers currently serving in Iraq. Bring them home, then we can focus efforts elsewhere.

The President should NOT worry about his legacy. He SHOULD worry about impeachment, war crimes prosecution and convictions for said war crimes.
Stop the lies and face the issues.

A Republican senator says he warned top White House aide Karl Rove that President Bush quickly needs to craft a workable plan to withdraw U.S. troops fom Iraq in order to salvage his legacy.

That's a bit like trying to salvage what's left of the Titanic.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

Quote: "Since then, Voinovich said he has spoken to both Rove and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and is expressing some satisfaction that in the short term, the White House has heard his concerns."

The White House has "heard" his concerns, but has it "listened"? Has it ever listened?

Sounds like they're all thinking legacy with their heads in the clouds. Maybe they should be thinking reality: the carnage Bush is leaving in his trail. That's done; it cannot be reversed. That's George W. Bush's legacy.

George Bush's legacy will read "worst president in the country's history." And I don't believe there will be a reversal on that even 100 years down the road.

pull the troops to areas where iraq oil production can be protected and built up. That keeps US troops in protected areas where hi tech weapons can be more effective. Pump oil. give iraq the $$$. drive down world prices and simultaneously push alternatives here at home. Weaken our enemies and strengthen us.

The arrogance and onesideism of the present occupant of the White House indicates he needs a good exam by the best shrink you can find!

It's too bad the Republicans continued their support for Bush… blind loyalty to a incompetent leader has cost our nation precious lives, our international respect, and treasury. Bush and his "go alone" attitude now finds himself ALONE… let him bear the consequences now and forever in history.

Bush's "legacy" is in the toilet already. He's the worst president in my lifetime and I am sixty two. I hope Bush and company don't do too much more damage before January 20, 2009. God knows who they will destroy next.

This says it all, acknowledging the Iraq campaign has been a foreign policy failure and has been the main focus of the Bush administration…even BEFORE 9/11.

The only way he can "salvage" his legacy among the worst U.S. Presidents in history is to work with Tony Blair to form a new Israeli/Palestinian peace agreement. However I doubt Bush is interested in diplomacy or peace of any kind.

The Bush legacy will be that of the pre-emptive war with Iraq based on lies and manipulation of intelligence - to justify their bogus reasons for going to war.

This President's legacy is sealed, he will go down in history as one of the most incompetent leaders that this country has had to endure. We will be reeling from his reactionary leadership long after he goes to Crawford to live on the largesse his corporate buddies will provide for his retirement! His reign has been a sad period for this great republic!

It's sad that the GOP is just starting to realize what they bought when they put the Bush/Cheney regime in power. The actions of the President and Vice President make clear one thing, they have allegiance to the big money from energy and defense and not the American people.

I do not doubt that history will be unkind to Bush. The problem may be finding out anything that he has done. The secrecy surrounding the White House will make writing any history a speculative activity at best.

My hope is that members of the GOP will join with the Democrats in Congress to stop this mad rush toward a generational war. If they cannot, the real history of Bush Cheney will be written in more blood of our troops and the citizens of other countries around the world.

Bush is listening to the Generals on the ground in Iraq. The very same Generals that were unanimously appointed by Congress just last year. Stable minded people understand this..
This post is just more anti-war/anti-freedom hype being masqueraded as news. Why does CNN attempt to highlight, even to the point of misrepresenting, the negatives in Iraq??

The definition of insanity is: Doing the SAME thing over and over, and expecting DIFFERENT results. But then, again, Bush is a dry, not sober, drunk (if he has, indeed, actually stopped drinking!).

I commend the Senator for making the effort to communicate with Bush, and for being public about it. There is probably a lot more of that going on at the moment than anyone outside of the White House realizes. So many lives, families, marriages, dreams lost to the arrogance of power. So much hate now directed at the U.S., all for a Bush snit over Saddam. It's utterly unthinkable that America could allow this to happen.

It is good to see GOP senators and representatives starting to speak their minds about the mess Bush has created in Iraq which has been mishandled from the start.

Dudes already lost the battle with the history books. I'm just curious to see how he'll differ from the rest of the world dictators.

Secret service protection stopped with Clinton, so he'll probably be put down with all the crazy people running around. I'll keep him in my prayers.

Hmmmm,

So, Voinovich doesn't want to give the "surge" enough time to work, huh? Cut-and-runner? Where exactly was the Senator when the president was promoting this latest of bandaids for Iraq? He and his colleagues could have stopped it in its tracks back in January. Instead they wait until it gets dangerously close to the elections to speak out. Forgive me George V., for seeing through your self-serving rhetoric, but it's just too easy.

This has much more to do with saving the Republican party in '08, then saving Bush's irreparable "legacy" and the Senator knows it.

W stands for WORST EVER

I am confused. So Bush would be willing to exit Iraq to save his legacy but not to save lives?

Despite the strange times we are living in, there is no legacy to save.

Amen, Pete. I can't imagine how he lives with himself. He and himself…fill in the blank: Cheney, Rove, Bush (Sr. or Jr., etc., etc.,etc.

Does Voinivich think that Americans have the memories the length of ants? Are we supposed to just"forget" all of Bush's failures over the last 6 1/2 years?

Bush's "legacy" is that of the WORST President in American History, no amount of Iraq salvaging is going to change that.

That will not be his legacy. Why do you talk about all the people that are killed in the US everyday by gunman in school, on the streets it is a lot more than Iraq and no one does anything about it. It has been happening longer than that President has been in office for both terms, and longer than we have been in Iraq. I wish everyone would stop wheening about Iraq, look at how we can fix the problem not only in Iraq and in the US. Because even after we get out of Iraq we will still have killings in the US. Getting out of Iraq is still not going to stop the killing in the US. We will still be at war in the US with all of the killings and crimes here.

Senator V. is deluding himself. He will be used as a puppet in the oncoming mideast war.

Voinovich is my Senator and I'd like to see his votes start reflecting his talk. He's as guilty as any in the current minority of obstructing legislation regarding Iraq and all other topics by defacto filibuster.

He's also got the gall to try and appeal to Rove about Bush's legacy? Stunning. American men and women are dying, but he thinks Bush should consider a "workable plan to withdraw" to salvage his legacy? If it weren't so offensive, it might be funny.

Senator Voinovich, I have a suggestion for you and your GOP allies - work with the majority and use the power of Congress to force this President to end our involvement in Iraq. Do it not to salvage the legacy of a man who has imperilled our military and damaged our country's reputation, but do it because IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO!

Also, Senator, I am ashamed you felt the need to chat with Karl Rove before fulfilling your obligations to your constituents and our country.

Like I care about GWB's legacy. This jerk should care about the lives lost. His legacy is already written. He is the worst President in history. Get a clue George.

Pace just said they may raise troop level…

umm ya — but what no ones saying in this country is that legacy will taint each and everyone of us - we will each live bush's history - welcome to the benefits of democracy - for in a democracy we all share the blame, and the shame.

Bush's legacy is that he (and Bush will be blamed no matter who is running the country) has — in 6 years — destroyed everything our country has stood for. He has attempted to take us back to the Stone Age by dismissing science. He has put total incompetents in important positions. He has let his personal insecurities consume him. He needs some serious counselling. He will have a legacy but it won't be one he will have an easy time living with. Let's just hope that after 2009 we will never hear from him (or any other Bush) again.

Bush is as delusional about his "legacy" as he is about the true conditions on the ground in Iraq. But one thing is certain: when the tipping point comes and enough Republicans abandon the sinking USS Bush, Congress is going to come out with legislation that is veto-proof and Bush will have lost any influence in crafting some kind of post-surge "strategy". When that day comes, he should't be able to say he wasn't warned, loud and clear…but he will. He will be "Shocked! Shocked, I say" to find himself stripped of any say-so at all.

Senator Voinovich has stepped up and shown some of the courage that true leaders in this great country have been lacking for a long, long time. Maybe we chose the wrong George to be president.

You never know what/who to believe in these articles.

To speak of a Bush legacy, at least a legacy in the positive sense of the word, is to create a major oxymoron. If what this man’s administration has achieved weren’t so utterly damaging and tragic, one could almost manage a laugh - powerful, malevolent bumpkins, at best clever, in command. We the people and the people’s children and their children will long pay the penalty imposed on us and them by this arrogant, criminal regime.

"Voinovich added that other Republicans are close to speaking out against the President’s current strategy"; Karl already knew this from the illegal wiretaps.

President Boob will be known as the worst president this country has EVER known. The lies, the arrogance, the secrecy, the abuse of trust of the American people will all come to the top of what has been a very ugly administrative soup.

Relief from the facist arm of this administration which has had its stronghold on our liberty and the liberty of others can not come soon enough.
People will see what the Emperor has been wearing all along!!

"WE THE PEOPLE!"

They have had 6 years. September is too long. Surge is nothing more than another silly term like stay the course. It is not about the legacy of George, but about this country. It should not be that George is given more time to try and make himself look better.

This president has no remorse and has psychological and psychiatric issues, he needs some intervention and assessment in a closed facility and not to take his "defiant attitude" issues on us and other innocent people. Let him and his father "have it out" in Kennebunkport, and keep him away from the American people.

The thousands of dead and wounded won't even slow them down. This is what they react to and all that matters to this administration, Politics! When their power is in jepardy, then they will act until them none of us even matter to them!

Truthfully? It is too late for George Bush to salvage his "legacy." And therein lies the truly frightening part of this six year reign of terror. Bush is a man with nothing to lose. Surely he gets that his place in history is number 43 — the worst president of the United States by every definition. Then again, maybe he doesn't.

What is more important, the legacy of Mr. Bush or the lives of thousands of people?

He is willing to sacrifice his legacy for the billions of dollars he and his friends are making out of this war.

So I guess It is not human lives, or legacy, is just greed.

The most secretive Administration led by a Failure with a lifelong history of failures.
His legacy is having Bin Laden and al-Qaeda in his grasp and, because of greed and avarice, he withdrew the American Troops and invaded and occupied a country with absolutely no ties to 9/11.
Lies, Half Truths, and Manipulation of Intelligence to suck us into a Iraqi Civil War Maelstrom with no end in sight.
Like Vietnam before, We are in Iraq on lies, the rebels attack us and blend back in to the population, U.S. troops commit attrocities, The puppet government is ineffectual and Corrupted with no incentive to fight for their country.
The entire Bush Administration must be IMPEACHED! Any and ALL Neo Con Judges, Lawyers, and Prosecutor's Bush put on the bench must be removed and their decisions rendered null and void.
We all know that Corruption, Conflict of Interest and Collusion is rampant in Washington and the refusal of the Legislators to withdraw from Iraq begs a question.
Who and how many Bush Adminiatration Officials, Advisors, Family members, Friends, and Political Donors and Cronies, have financial holdings in any companies making a profit off the Iraqi Civil War Debacle?
Ask the same question to the Republican and Democratic Legislators and their Campaign Contributors.

The Staller-in-Chief is busting his a** (between vacations) figuring out how to extend his delusional failed war policy out to Jan. 09.

Screw his legacy. There is no saving that at this point in the game.

George Bush and President Cheney need to start thinking about the citizens, troops, and the constitution of this nation that they swore to protect and uphold.

The war is only 1 of 100 things the White House has "f–ed up"

I just listened to Dana Bash cover this story on "The Situation Room". I am writing to comment on her right-wing slant and repeated emphasis on "Democrats Political Theatre" with the overnight session planned for Tuesday 7.17.07. Miss Bash, It is not political theatre. People are dying and families are being destroyed. I know you benefit from the current war related strife in this country as it gives you something to "report" on, but I suggest you look at some of your employers polls that indicate the majority of Americans want out of Iraq and believe this fiasco is a complete and utter failure. I will continue to watch CNN, but will have my remote and "mute" key handy for when you are on the air.

Legacy? George already has one I'm afraid. We will be decades cleaning up he has done to this country and its people…and he still has time to screw us over even more.

You heard it here folks: If we get another attack, I suspect George will want to take over for good. Cheny would be unable to pass up such a chance.

I just count the days until he is gone. I even question our ability to impeach he is so out of control.

Amazing how 100% of the comments here are overwhelmingly hostile to Bush. Small sample, yes, but it says something about the growing concensus in this country that G.W. Bush is indeed our worst president ever, and very likely a criminal. I feel the same way, and wish the Congress would get serious about impeachment. It is the only remedy our Constitution provides for corrupt usurpers like Bush/Cheney.

What a joke. I don't think I can take another year and a half. Just imagine what it will be like when we have leadership we can proud of! Just think of the reception Kennedy used to get when he traveled abroad- people were lined up for miles just trying to catch a glimpse of him. In contrast, people burn Bush efigees whenever he goes anywhere. Impeachment has never sounded more appealing.

ReadBtwthlins … "Why does CNN attempt to highlight, even to the point of misrepresenting, the negatives in Iraq??"

Funny how I just saw a positive report on CNN just TODAY eh?

And NO evidence to back up your claim of the CNN "misrepresentation" in your post either?

You're 0-2!

If you don't like CNN, don't post on their blog.

Thanks in advance!

This article highlights the lunacy and cowardice in the District of Criminals (modern day Rome). These Republican Senators are only now breaking rank to help this pathetic psychopath save his legacy and save their jobs. Most are up for reelection next year. Bushco could never have gotten away with looting our pockets, Constitution busting, deliberate upheaval and chaos of the Middle East and the wholesale destruction of our military, and bankrupting of our national finances without the active and cowardly assistance of the Democrat Party, the sycophantic propaganda of the media and these lickspittle Republican toadies. While Bush's war policies are leading us to national bankruptcy (we must borrow $3 billion a day from abroad along with a nearly $1 trillion trade deficit, even as they promote outsourcing and deindustrialization), we can't help but acknowledge that these same policies have worked out as planned and quite successfully for their NeoCon, Trotskyite advocates in untold riches, the destruction and murder of Israel's enemies and the implementation of their Project for The New American Century grand imperial strategy, that was their blueprint for global hegemony "conveniently" and "coincidentally" brought about by 9/11 (their New Pearl Harbor).

The Bush cabal should be impeached and put on trial for treason just for this ruinous and fiscally destructive war of preemption, a doctrine even yet embraced by Hillary, Obama, Giuliani et al. Be careful whom you support for 2008. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Americans need to stop drinking the koolaide of believing everything is an accident, because of incompetence and bad intelligence and start facing the hard facts. Stop believing any of these politicos care one bit about us. A regime (and bipartisan political elites) which was just working to provide Amnesty to the rest of Mexico yet to make it to America, that leaves our borders completely wide open, is covertly negotiating and implementing the Council on Foreign Relations' blueprint for building the North American Union and yet still proclaiming we are fighting a war on terror is obviously playing us for fools and playing fast and loose with the truth on many fronts. This regime is openly declaring its complicity in multiple frauds and crimes against the Constitution and the American people. The people who brought us 9/11 are the same criminals and murderers who are still planning a war with Iran and based on their gut feeling, warning of another terrorist event. They should know since they are the hidden hand behind it.

"Treason doth never prosper. For if it prospers, none dare call is such."

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/DavidRayGriffin911Empire.pdf

This article highlights the lunacy and cowardice in the District of Criminals (modern day Rome). These Republican Senators are only now breaking rank to help this pathetic psychopath save his legacy and save their jobs. Most are up for reelection next year. Bushco could never have gotten away with looting our pockets, Constitution busting, deliberate upheaval and chaos of the Middle East and the wholesale destruction of our military, and bankrupting of our national finances without the active and cowardly assistance of the Democrat Party, the sycophantic propaganda of the media and these lickspittle Republican toadies. While Bush's war policies are leading us to national bankruptcy (we must borrow $3 billion a day from abroad along with a nearly $1 trillion trade deficit, even as they promote outsourcing and deindustrialization), we can't help but acknowledge that these same policies have worked out as planned and quite successfully for their NeoCon, Trotskyite advocates in untold riches, the destruction and murder of Israel's enemies and the implementation of their Project for The New American Century grand imperial strategy, that was their blueprint for global hegemony "conveniently" and "coincidentally" brought about by 9/11 (their New Pearl Harbor).

The Bush cabal should be impeached and put on trial for treason just for this ruinous and fiscally destructive war of preemption, a doctrine even yet embraced by Hillary, Obama, Giuliani et al. Be careful whom you support for 2008. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Americans need to stop drinking the koolaide of believing everything is an accident, because of incompetence and bad intelligence and start facing the hard facts. Stop believing any of these politicos care one bit about us. A regime (and bipartisan political elites) which was just working to provide Amnesty to the rest of Mexico yet to make it to America, that leaves our borders completely wide open, is covertly negotiating and implementing the Council on Foreign Relations' blueprint for building the North American Union and yet still proclaiming we are fighting a war on terror is obviously playing us for fools and playing fast and loose with the truth on many fronts. This regime is openly declaring its complicity in multiple frauds and crimes against the Constitution and the American people. The people who brought us 9/11 are the same criminals and murderers who are still planning a war with Iran and based on their gut feeling, warning of another terrorist event. They should know since they are the hidden hand behind it.

"Treason doth never prosper. For if it prospers, none dare call is such."

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200704/DavidRayGriffin911Empire.pdf

As a military family, I want to thank every American who cares enough about our soldiers to demand an END to this insane war. Our soldiers need to be taken out of there.

Never believe the hype MEDIA gives, that perception that the military backs this president-they back the Constitution.

This poor excuse of a president hides behind the backdrop, using our loved ones bodies as his props. He has never supported the troops-only the people not for their misuse are supporting them.

I don't believe Bush went into this with the intention of leaving Iraq, but intended to create more reasons for more war. General Jay Garner had a Marshall type plan that would have worked in the beginning of the invasion-too late now… Bush fired him and replaced him with the incompetent Paul Brehmer. Which is when the insurgency took hold, when Iraqis saw nothing getting better-like electric, potable water, available food and security.

That is Bush's "mission accomplished"
along with dead and maimed soldiers and civilians and wasteland from the bombing. Some legacy. Rove and Hadley (who committed 1 million insurance fraud felony in the 80's) are also to blame for this "plan" and should be held accountable for being a traitors to our troops.

The entire Bush administration should be in The Hague for crimes against humanity.

It is utterly despicable, but not surprising or inconsistent, to read that Bush should change course and develop plans for an exit strategy IN ORDER TO SAVE HIS LEGACY. No mention of our dead kids wasted in Bush's War Of Choice - the war Voinovich says "…the administration f–ked up…". His war will provide an underwhelming chapter among others of the same ilk, I suppose.

Bush needn't concern himself about his legacy. He will have one that will long out live him, the dammage from which will take generations of dedication and political will to repair. Yup, yup.

You can't win wars with corrupt imcompetent leaders calling the shots.

Bush has consistantly demonstrated that he is the most corrupt President in our history.

A man who lied, and misled all of us to invade Iraq. Our soldiers have paid the price for this administration's greed and holier than thou attitude. I support our troops, but I did not support this war. And because of that I was among many labeled unpatriotic. Bring our men and women home. Your legacy is what it is and its too late to do anything to change it now. And it wasn't my vote that put you in power either time.

Will history be unkind to the Bush regime? Not if the rethuglican party of obfuscation and disinformation is able to mold history textbooks the way it has molded the media. Watch for Rove to land a plum position at a major book publisher in 2009.

(Voinovich added that other Republicans are close to speaking out against the President’s current strategy.)

uhhhh! They are close to speaking out? Well that ought to be enough to change the direction that our king george has taken.

This is a joke right? Who gives a shit if they speak out. They have done it before only to turn around and vote with bush. When they start voting against bush, that’s when it will matter. Till then, it is only words. Just another name for BS.

These traitors care more about their re-election than the death destruction and chaos in Iraq. It is time to draft all politicians, their sons and daughters, and all the other cheerleaders for this fiasco in Iraq.

Watch how fast this war ended if the bush twins and cheneys daughter, and their mommies and daddies had to strap on fifty pounds of gear and actually fight the war they promote every day.

You all had better hope you don't end up in a Gitmo somewhere.

They are about to invade Iran….

How has history judged other issues in the past? This gives us a glimpse at the future.

1954: Eisenhower passes on an agreed plan to have Vietnamese elections take place. But History for the Right judges "liberals" as the cause of the loss of American life and failure to achieve any real goals in Vietnam.

1982: Saddam Hussein is responsible for horrible murders. His countrymen eventually execute him for this crime. President Reagan's administration considers Hussein, despite this attack, to be a worthy ally. History for the Right shows that somehow 'liberals' are to blame.

1983-1988: Someone working with the Administrations sells weapons to America's greatest enemy, Iran. These weapons are used to kill civilians working in the Gulf Sea. History for the Right shows the perpetrator, Oliver North, to be a hero and frequent figure on Fox News.

So, I don't have much hope for History making any intelligent judgments on anything short of another Adolf Hitler.

This is a failed war and soon we will have a failed democracy. The Republicans are as bad as the Dems… they are playing by one set of rules and Bush&Co is playing by another set. Why doesn't all of Congress get that!? It is past time to stop playing nice… take off the gloves and go after this corrupt, failed administration.

Bu$h, a legacy? Surely you jest. Those of us with triple digit IQ's will remember him as THE WORST prez and his gang of thugs as well. There is nothing left to salvage. He has screwed up every job he ever had, known by anyone who chooses to research, and now he has screwed our country. He cannot leave office soon enough. I fear we are doomed as a nation because of our and media's lack of asking the cold hard questions and DEMANDING an answer that is satisfactory. We might as well be living under martial law. Reminds me of reading about Hitler and his thugs, how they came to power, and their complete destruction of Germany. Until the voters demand change, we will continue down the road to utter and complete destruction!!

The spineless cowards on the left, the American haters who have sided with the barbaric woman haters…..you will be the ones who lose this war……not us.

the chimpanzee's legacy is 0 for 3 against osama. 1) 9/11 suckerpunch; 2) taliban & q'aida basically intact after afghanistan Operation Whatever. 3) grinds down the army like a pencil on april 15 in the process of losing a war to a civilian resistance in iraq

it is for some later generation to fully comprehend the fathomless stupidity.

Trouble when politicians start saying "history will decide".
Hey George Bush, in 5, 10, 20, 100 years you will be viewed as incompetent, deceitful, treasonous, disingenuous, delusional, unlawful, unscrupulous, disingenuous, contemptible, putrid, lying, corrupt, hypocritical, insidious person you are.

This is absolutely hilarious. If you buy G. Voinivich trying to be helpful to the Bush administration, let me show you a few bridges that are for sale. This man is a Democrat who could not get elected as such, so he cloaked himself as a Republican after reading poll results. Legacies aren't written about people who worry about them - like Voinivich.

I vote for sending George W., Dick Cheney and Laura Bush to Irag to join the rest of the US cannon fodder they have placed in the Middle East for the benefit of their own moneyed interests.

But Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, told CNN that he warned Rove last week that “The president is a young man and should think about his legacy.”

The GOP is in such denial that Bush and Cheney took post 9/11 America and carried out a vendetta against Saddam's Iraq for Oil and Defense profits instead of fighting the enemy where they were and still are in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The GOP by blindly following Bush and Cheney have squandered our treasury and our Military with a total failure in this personal blunder called the Iraq war.

I think the president and his inner circle are quite mad; they are irrational and in denial.

They behave as though human beings are no more significant than pieces on a board game. They will not be moved by feelings of compassion; they have none.

So the idea of appealing to him with a plan addressing his legacy is the way you'd talk to a lunatic…figure out what might motivate him. Clearly it won't be for humanitarian reasons that they'll agree to stop the bloodshed. If he thinks that he may save his place in history by pulling out (Oh that his father had done as much…and I'm not talking about the gulf war here)wunderbar!

Whatever it takes. After all, he has already created his legacy; people on every part of our planet know and understand what that legacy will be.

I do believe that people make a serious mistake in thinking Dubya stands for Dumb. I do believe the light bulb is not too bright and the knife is not too sharp. However, who is the bigger dummy GWB or the American sheeple who either voted for him, have kept his poll numbers from falling in the teens or who are not willing to open their mouths and stand against these thugs? He's so dumb he keeps advancing his agenda despite all opposition and failure. That's amazing.

This regime is nothing more than a criminal cartel which has raped America just like they have raped and killed Iraq. The degree to which these people hate America, hate us and those who are not on their team defies the imagination. They will destroy us all and this country before they leave if given the chance. I'd even say the military would be justified in arresting Bush-Cheney for their malfeasance, criminal misconduct and violation of their Constitutional oaths (can you say 9/11).

We have met the enemy and he or they are on the throne. Bush-Cheney is the duo from hell and we are afflicted by a plague of treachery. They are our very own Caligua and Nero. Rome is burning and the sheeple continue to watch theeir dumb tv shops. It's time to turn off your tvs friends and roll up your sleeves while their is still time. If these two and their collaborators like Lieberman don't crash the ship of state on the shores of the Persian Gulf soon, they'll sink it under a weight of red ink IOLs to China Inc.

Plus let's not forget those Halliburton Camps. Who are they building those camps for?

From what I have read, it sounds as though y'all are in agreement that this Republican administration 'stinks'. Hey CNN, read your own blog and realize it is time to interperet news events from an American perspective (as opposed to the corperate/conservative/Republican perspective).

It is too late to worry about legacy. GOP legislators should ask Bush and Cheney to resign. If they don't, the Congress should begin impeachment proceedings. Bush and Cheney will then have a legacy as the first President and VP to be impeached and removed from office.

A good way to convince a person to get something done is to remind him of his, "legacy." That's why people are talking to Bush this way. It brings foolish pride into play, to one's advantage.

George Voinovich will talk tough until it comes time to break with Bush on a REAL vote to withdrawal from Iraq and then he will cave in to Bush.
He is ALL TALK and NO action.

Now what if W were to stumble onto this? Why, you would turn that man from a dry drunk to just a regular one. And who wants that?

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
Mahatma Gandhi

The Bush family has been in the White House, in one capacity or another for all but 8 of the last 26 years. I can only hope that the fantastic misdeeds of Papa Bush's foolish son will pull the whole family's legacy down the drain.

Because, remember, Jeb is waiting in the wings… And, by all accounts, he's more ruthless (and, unfortunately, smarter) than GW.

I'll go out on a limb and predict that the Bush Family Plan is to let the Democrats win in '08 so they inherit the unrepairable mess Bush left behind, and thus be seen as responsible for it. By 2012, Jeb will run, and win. It's at this point that we see a true dictatorship.

Legacy? LEGACY?!
As commander in chief of one of the most powerful military forces known to mankind, Bush has allowed a bunch of rag tag religious zeolots with no air force, no navy, no intelligence network, and no industrial military infrastructure to not only attack us, but also to keep us engaged in the worst foreign policy debacle in history for 5+ years, to the tune of $600+Billion, 3600+ US fatalities, and countless civilian casulties.
There is no leagacy to salvage!!!
Only, WORST PRESIDENT EVER!

Our Soldiers & personnel, as well as Iraqis, are dying or becoming maimed
on a daily basis.

So all these GOP pukes
are concerned with is:
the Bush/GOP "Legacy"?

If that isn't the very definition of pure SCORN for our troops, then
I don't know what is.

It all just looks like stalling
to me, at this point.

When will Washington, Bush, his people, and the Republican party get it. There is no "legacy." It's over. Now we just have to salvage what's left of the Republic.

There is one thing that Bush will do to save his legacy. He can follow the advice of Podhoretz and bomb Iran's nuclear and war making facilities. By doing this he will, as Podhoretz noted, prevent a second Holocaust. There is no downside to this for Bush. The Iranians will be set back decades; their people after a time will realize it is folly to oppose the will of America; and Iran’s sinister influence in Iraq will abate. To secure his dream of the democratic, stable, Middle East, Bush know this is his last chance. We have two carrier task forces in the Persian Gulf/Arabian Sea. Another is steaming its way across the Atlantic. A fourth, the USS Truman, the only warship in the US Navy with a Torah on board, is getting ready to go there in the fall, or earlier. Bush is a gambler. He is all in on this one and is waiting for the river card.

Pathetic. Voinovich and Rove are concerned about the Bush legacy but not the constitutional crisis they have procured and the millions of lives they have ruined? John Dean said it well in his book-the people running the executive branch are conservatives without a conscience. Impeachment is the only means to recover from this monarchical cabal headed by Bush & Cheney our values as a nation of laws.

Christian Alain, you are right on! I couldn't add any more to your excellent post, except my profound regrets that Americans will be fooled and fooled again. Vietnam, Watergate, abuse of power, blind obedience, persecution of those who dissent when our leaders are taking us to hell, the death of innocents, of young people, and lost liberty…. When will we learn to approach government with the cynicism of our Founding Fathers? I fear never.

Let us do EVERYTHING WE CAN to ENSURE that history is not kind to the Bush regime and its lackeys. It's a good bet that Bill Kristol and the PNAC neocons are even now working on the rewrites of the history books — but we must make sure that these people are the objects of SCORN and DERISION for generations to come.

http://www.bushregimememorialsociety.us

It's funny how everyone here is so against Bush, yet the majority of you voted him in for a second term!
I am no Bush fan and the Iraq war was a sham from the get-go, but I certainly would have nver voted for Bush the first time and certainly never for a second term, after it was widely known that the whole WMD was one big lie.
You made your bed, my friendly Americans, now lie in it! Next time, be more more careful about who you elect and maybe the world won't suffer as much for your inability to see through blatent lies. Shame on the majority of Americans who have made the world suffer.

What makes you think we only have 1 1/2 years of Bush to go? He has already demonstrated his total disregard for the constitution. I can see him coming up with something in 08 (TERRORISTS !!!) to keep him and his cronies in power.

pretty easy to blame it all on Bush now eh? Yet, despite the fact that we do not have one single fact now that we did not have then, still voted for war huh? Happen to read the CIA brief, available to any representative, that said Bush was lying ? Pretty hard to vote against such a profitable venture isn;t it? Yet, despite all, say a few words, act outraged and you will have followers. The sheeple fall in line

Maybe the GOP members of Congress will start proceeding for criminal acts against the Administration, someone has to the Democrats don't seem to have a back bone even when the majoriy of the people want to know the truth.
We need a real investigation of this illegal works of this Administration.

I propose a legacy for Pres. Bush , V-Pres Cheney and their administration:
that will deserve a whole chapter in every American history book written in the future: thesuccessful impeachment and conviction of both a President and Vice-President. For a hundred years thereafter, the names "Bush" and "Cheney" will be on the lips of every schoolchild. That would be a legacy to write about.

Who gives a damn about this idiot, bushman will go to jail along with that old thieve cheney. Once the ability to issue free hall pass stops. We will get our pound of skin for killing our kids. It shall come to pass after 2008. I still see the London Times headlines the day after the last Pres. election "HOW CAN 57 MILLION PEOPLE BE SO WRONG" if we learned anything we as U.S. citizens ain't to smart…………

The education system in the US is so bad no one under 30 will even know his name in a few years.. Bush can thank the Dems for not having to worry about his legacy.

Save his LEGACY?! What legacy? The only positive thing this administration has ever done is the "Do Not Call Registry." The rest has been nothing but one horrible misstep after another. Lies, scandals, corruption, and a never-ending river of blood is his legacy. Who is protecting the legacy of all the innocent lives lost, sacrificed purely to save his ego? What about the legacy of American values he has forever stained? We could salvage our reputation in the eyes of the world by proving what we all know about both Bush elections: they were won by illegal means and not by the vote of the American people.

I am so ashamed of this administration and blame Congress for not protecting this country from a dictatorship. Excuse me, the new terminology is "Decider-ship." Everyone involved should be facing Nuremburg-style trials.

And -NO- I am not a lefty.

A synonym for "legacy" is "gift." What do you suppose the families of dead soldiers think their gift is from Geo. Bush? He wants this war. He needs this war. And, he could not handle the truth about how vulgar and vile are his motives about this war. A 5,000-person embassy in Baghdad? A vice president that outed a CIA agent in order to quell questions about data? Next time you see George on TV, take a good look. This guy CANNOT wait until the end of January, 2009. Neither can we.

BUSH/CHENEY CORP., NEED TO BE HUNG UP BY THEIR TOES LIKE THE GUY WHO MADE THE TRAINS RUN ON TIME AND THEN PUT IN PRISION UNTIL NATURAL DEATH!

A Dem leaning, cursing, bitter Repub has no credibility. Mr. V shows his colors by focusing on a legacy for Bush. Bush does not need to manufacture or shape a legacy to fulfill Mr. V's wishes. Mr. V should go home and wait for the extremists Emams to move in next door to his house if he thinks we can run and hide.

Rick from Chicago for Tool in '08!

No one from the Bush administration will ever be impeached or convicted. The records from his father's government service have all been sealed, the records from his term as governor have all been sealed, and have fun wrangling in the courts over "executive privelege" and the protections of signing statements. We have been waiting for seven and a half years to find out who made the energy policy for this country. The true legacy that Bush leaves behind is the number of competent, committed, and dare I say, moral public leaders forced into early retirement or irrelevance for making the mistake of doing their jobs.
Truly upset about George W. Bush? Then make sure the next president calls upon his unique talents and devotion to duty abd names him Ambassador to Iraq. Saves the trouble of the legal system and seems like justice is still served.

Anyone who supports this idiot in the White House is not playing with a full deck.

Worrying about legacies may be something politicians do (Clinton), but not true leaders. Voinovich is a typical politician. I want presidents that do what they feel is right rather than trying to make decisions based on how it might affect their "legacy". This country was founded on a republican form of government. I pray we can keep it that way.

The damage caused to this country by the Bush/Cheney click will take at least fifty to sixty years to be repaired. I feel sorry for whoever will inherit this mess. I say thank you to the Neocons.

Anonymous .."Rick from Chicago for Tool in ‘08!"

Does this mean you wont be seeking another term?

A) I think Voinovich is a complete moron to think there's anything to salvage from this Bush debacle.

B) I think Joe S. from Lowell MA makes an excellent point. The only legacy that really matters to this buffoon is the increase in his and his family's personal wealth and that of his co-conspirators. I bet from his point of view, things he could do to "improve" his legacy would be:
* get rid of the inheritance tax
* Get rid of capital gains taxes
* Privatize Social Security