July 26, 2007
Posted: 09:16 AM ET

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) –A group of Senate Democrats on Thursday called for a special counsel to investigate whether Attorney General Alberto Gonzales perjured himself during Capitol Hill testimony.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testifies under oath Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The group said it plans to make the request in a letter to the solicitor general.

The development came just before Democratic Sens. Charles Schumer, Russ Feingold, Sheldon Whitehouse and Dianne Feinstein were set to hold a news conference on Gonzales' testimony before the Judiciary Committee this week.

It's the latest salvo in a dispute regarding President Bush's domestic surveillance program. On Wednesday night, the Justice Department said Gonzales "stands by" Senate testimony that appeared to contradict a memo about a White House meeting with congressional leaders in 2004.

Gonzales testified under oath Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee that the March 10, 2004, meeting — when Gonzales was White House counsel — was not prompted by the Bush administration's program to monitor communications with terror suspects overseas without warrants.

Under questioning from the Senate Judiciary Committee, Gonzales said that on March 10, 2004 — when he was White House counsel — he and other officials met at the White House with eight top congressional leaders after Deputy Attorney General James Comey refused to approve "continuation of a very important intelligence activity."

In his testimony, Gonzales refused to discuss what that the intelligence activity was, but he testified the dispute with Comey that prompted the meeting — and a subsequent visit to then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in his hospital bed — was not over a controversial program to monitor communications with terror suspects overseas without warrants.

At the time, Comey was in charge of the Justice Department because Ashcroft was seriously ill.

However, the White House meeting appears on a list of briefings about the terrorist surveillance program provided to Congress by National Intelligence Director John Negroponte in 2006.

Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said Wednesday night that while he was aware of the Negroponte memo, Gonzales "stands by his testimony."

According to the list compiled by Negroponte's office, other attendees at the meeting included then-House Speaker Dennis Hastert, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and Minority Leader Tom Daschle, along with Nancy Pelosi, who was then minority leader in the House and is now speaker. The intelligence committee members included Reps. Porter Goss and Jane Harman and Sens. Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller.

President Bush publicly revealed the terrorist surveillance program in December 2005, insisting that it was both legal and a necessary tool in the war on terror. But critics have denounced the surveillance as an assault on civil liberties and challenged its legality.

Gonzales said that after Comey objected to reauthorizing undisclosed "intelligence activity," House and Senate leaders from both parties, as well as members of each chamber's intelligence committee, were summoned to the White House for a meeting in the situation room.

"We informed the leadership that Mr. Comey felt the president did not have the authority to authorize these activities, and we were there asking for help, to ask for emergency legislation," Gonzales said.

At the meeting, a consensus developed that "it would be very, very difficult to obtain legislation without compromising this program, but that we should look for a way ahead," he said.

So that evening, Gonzales said he and White House Chief of Staff Andy Card visited Ashcroft in the hospital because "we felt it important that the attorney general knew about the views and the recommendations of the congressional leadership."

Comey, who was in the hospital room that night, previously testified that he thought Card and Gonzales were trying to "take advantage" of an ill Ashcroft. However, Ashcroft refused to overrule Comey's decision.

Pressed by clearly skeptical senators Tuesday, Gonzales asserted several times that the dispute that led to the congressional meeting and the trip to Ashcroft's hospital bed was not over the terrorist surveillance program.

"The disagreement that occurred, and the reason for the visit to the hospital … was about other intelligence activities. It was not about the terrorist surveillance program that the president announced to the American people," Gonzales said.

"Mr. Attorney General, do you expect us to believe that?" replied Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, the committee's ranking Republican.

Gonzales' veracity during previous testimony has been called into question by senators, particularly his assertion that there was no internal dissent within the Justice Department over reauthorizing the terrorist surveillance program. Comey testified some top-ranking officials were prepared to resign over the dispute.

Gonzales sought to bolster the credibility of his previous testimony Tuesday by asserting that Comey's objections dealt with other intelligence activities. But because those activities are highly classified, it is impossible to know what they were or what, if any, relationship they might have to the terrorist surveillance program.

– CNN's Terry Frieden and Kevin Bohn contributed to this report.

Filed under: Alberto Gonzales


Leigh   July 28th, 2007 11:17 am ET

Ed Wood,

Get your head out of the sand! I totally support our troops(they do what they're told) but I do not support this unnecessary mission and our government that sent them …..too hard for you to understand? You have the same IQ as Bush then!

Gonzales is a bald face liar! Period.
He should be kicked out with the rest of the bums! NOW!

Rick, Chicago Illinois   July 26th, 2007 8:34 pm ET

Ed Wood Pierson MI .. post under the appropriate thread or don't post at all.

Jon, Sacramento ~ Ca   July 26th, 2007 7:45 pm ET

Ryan ~ Ny, NY,

You were helping Ed Wood better understand how/why we're in Iraq. You wrote,

"Here’s a brief synopsis of what the US did in Iraq:
Given the inability for all too many in the US to differentiate between Muslim terrorists and Iraqis, the Bush administration was able to go forward with the Iraq War that they’d been planning prior to 9/11."

I think what you have shared is symptomatically wrong with everyone who espouses the Bush-Lie mantra … claiming the reason we're in Iraq is because the President fabricated some story tying in 9/11. None of that is true!

The TRUTH is - we were in Afghanistan removing Al Qaeda, it's leaders, and attempting to irradicate terrorists there. Meanwhile (next door) Saddam Hussein decides to kick-out the UN Inspectors and defy the existing UN Resolutions. The UN security council (15 countries including China, France, Russian, and Arab nations) negotiated and eventually passed UN Resolution 1441 which require Saddam to comply with the 10 previous resolutions of disarmament and disclosure of WMDs. EVEN Syria signed on! Saddam refused to comply and created the environment where action had to be taken. The US - along with approx 60 nations contributing to the effort to oust Saddam.

That's why we are there. Our soldiers are working to eliminate the threat of insurgents, terrorists, and help the Iraq people build a new government and provide safeguards to the innocent.

At LEAST have an acurate understanding of how we got into Iraq.

Marcy Auguste   July 26th, 2007 3:33 pm ET

If America is not outraged at the antics of Bush, Cheney, Rice and all the other cronies, including Scalia on the Supreme court, then they should be ashamed of themselvs, wake up, sober up, break the bubble they live in and pay attention to what's going on in the world. So many just assume that politicians are corrupt and there's nothing we can do about it. When a democrat screws up in his private life, we impeach him, but when a republican lies about why we are at war, outs a spy working for us because her husband doesn't believe Bush's reason for going to Iraq, and a myriad of other crimes, then we are in trouble. Bill Maher said it best, "when you have a President who doesn't know that the Islamic world consists of Sunni's and Shiite's, that's an impeachable offense."

FPK, Midwest (As in outside the Beltway)   July 26th, 2007 3:05 pm ET

Please, Senators. Cease and desist from this pompous, santimonious, self-destructive course. You can't meaningfully address the nation's prioity problems, so you set up these self righteous prosecutorial sideshows. I have nothing but contempt for Congress when it comes to this type of exhibitionism.

DJ, Los Angeles CA   July 26th, 2007 2:44 pm ET

Honestly…I wanted to keep an open mind and hear what Alberto had to say to the Senate panel questions.

When I saw him testify, listened to how he responded and how angry even fellow Republican Sen. Specter got a him…

It became glaringly apparent that Gonzales is a complete fraud and not only full of lies, but also was playing dumb and was doing his best to protect the Administration….just as Libby did.

Mindy Chatsworth, Ca.   July 26th, 2007 2:17 pm ET

To Ed Wood -

I have had my fill of people like you always questioning the patriotism and courage and wisdom of Democrats who dare to question and disagree with Bush's reckless and foolish conduct of the war in Iraq. He has created a horrendous nightmare that the next president will have the thankless task of fixing.

You are confusing responsible alternative solutions to the continuing slaughter of American soldiers whose safety cannot be guaranteed in the current highly charged situation in Iraq. How do you know that if we withdraw our troops in a reasonable manner, that it will be Armageddon? Someone has to do the thinking here and since Bush seems incapable of facing the fact that he has gotten us into a disastrous situation, I think it is important that the opposition party and its candidates continue to speak out forcefully to try to change the course of this administration's incompetent management of this war. That is what we do in a democracy, we voice our disagreement with our government's policies, or have you forgotten what a true democracy is?

What about the war in Afghanistan, you know the one which was supposed to capture Osama bin Laden? There is mounting evidence that Al Qaeda and the Taliban are growing stronger, while we are stuck in the mess in Iraq. So this president ignored the real threat and fought the wrong war in the wrong country.

Maybe people like you wish to follow in lockstep with this president and refuse to see the truth. But don't condemn those who are trying to do the decent thing and get our beleaguered troops out of a sectarian civil war that we cannot win. That is what true patriotism is all about.

Ryan, New York, NY   July 26th, 2007 2:14 pm ET

Thnkaboutit, would you like to mention the credentials of the Politicians and Media for your simplistic comparison? I'm sure they're all fairly equal.

Take Schumer for instance, Harvard undergrad, Harvard Law, NY Bar admitted, but passed up legal career to enter politics.

Or Specter, that crazy Republican who goes on principle not party, who did an undergrad at UPenn, then spent 3 years in Korea, then came back and went to Yale Law before becoming the DA of Philly and working on the Warren Commission.

Yep, no credentials there…

Ryan, New York, NY   July 26th, 2007 2:06 pm ET

Ed Wood Pierson MI, it's thick skulled people like yourself that just don't get it. The 3500 troops that you're referring to, don't compare them to the 9/11. Compare the 404 dead in Operation Enduring Freedom. You know, that mission that we never completed, but that we took troops from to fight a 2nd, unrelated war.

The Iraq war was not related to the 9/11 attacks, though in our actions AFTER Saddam's removal, WE created the link that Bush insisted existed prior. There was, and still is, ZERO evidence that Bin-Laden and Saddam were working together.

Here's a brief synopsis of what the US did in Iraq:
Given the inability for all too many in the US to differentiate between Muslim terrorists and Iraqis, the Bush administration was able to go forward with the Iraq War that they'd been planning prior to 9/11. Upon easily wiping out the current regime, as we do have one of the best militaries in the world, especially compared to Iraq's, they created a vaccuum of power. This vaccuum was the ideal new home for foreign terrorists and provided them with a battleground for their war against the US. This shouldn't have come as a surprise, as the best place for terrorists to thrive is in an virtual anarchy. Just look at the rural areas of Pakistan where it's difficult to enforce the law due to terrain and tribal issues. The terrorists should honestly thank us for giving them the gift they needed to expand.

Anonymous, Los Angeles CA   July 26th, 2007 1:46 pm ET

How many more scandals is it going to take to have the worst and most corrupt President in history get impeached?

As with Libby…Gonzales does not call the shots. Obviously he just follows orders from the Bush Administration.

Impeachment is not strong enough a punishment to fit the outrageous level of misconduct and corruption…that makes Nixon seem like a Boy Scout in comparison.

Rob, San Diego CA   July 26th, 2007 1:05 pm ET

Dear Thnkaboutit,

Apparently the founding father's disagreed with you…

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Benjamin Franklin (1759)

But what did they know, right?

Keep listening to that Bush rhetoric and we'll all be living in an Orwellian nightmare a la "1984″.

Jeff, Houston, Texas   July 26th, 2007 1:00 pm ET

To Thnkaboutit:

I assume you third choice is the emperor's little troll.

Well, given that list, I have to go with media.

There should be NOTHING done by our government that is not subject to oversite. If the media is all I have to expose the Bush Crime Syndicate, then I choose "B", unless you are referring to Fox News, which is nothing more than the cheerleading squad for Bush and his thugs.

Robert, Edwards AFB, CA   July 26th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

*doesn't

Steve, Lyons, Colorado   July 26th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

ED WOOD: If you do not “support the mission” you cannot possibly by any streach of the imagination “support the troops”
END ED WOOD

ME: That would be "stretch." And you, sir, are plainly too ignorant to judge anyone.Let me try and explain my support for the troops so you can understand: I support our brave troops, sent REPEATEDLY over to an illegal conflict based on lies and deception by the criminal Bush administration.
I "support our troops" 'cause I want them back home, not getting killed for Halliburton and oil.
Get it?
END ME

ED WOOD:
How can you “support the troops” and try to hinder their abillity to do their job.
END ED WOOD

ME: A majority of the troops want the troops brought home. THere is no "mission." We're fighting for nothing. Thanks to President Alfred E. Newman and the lies of his traitor and corporate criminal VP Cheney, both cowards who either didn't serve at all in Vietnam (Cheney) or deserted the country club National Guard to work on an Alabama congressman's campaign (Chowderhead), we're stuck in a war with our soldiers dying for an Iraqi constitution that ISN'T EVEN DEMOCRATIC. You see, "Islam" is cited WITHIN THAT CONSTITUTION as being the "ultimate authority." That's a theocracy, not a democracy.
So…the U.S. is in FAR greater danger than when Howdy Doody started his lies and domestic terrorist campaign against anyone not saluting a man that can't even speak in complete sentences.
There was no Al Queda in Iraq pre-invasion. Osama bin Laden is still free, laughing his butt off at our Prez Cowboy Moron.
Bush and his minions have made everything WORSE. Exactly which "mission" are you referring to?
END ME

ED WOOD:I am calling you out on that that just don’t jive.
END ED WOOD

ME: Now, Ed. You're just confused 'cause you and about 29% of Americans actually think this war is worth fighting.

Join the rest of the country. Get real.

Robert, Edwards AFB, CA   July 26th, 2007 12:55 pm ET

Ed Wood: Al Qaeda didn't exist in Iraq before we got there. We have/had no business in that country and need to stop wasting lives and money in it. I don't know of anyone who doesn't support our military being in Afghanistan (going after the people who actually are responsible for attacks against our country), however. Anyone who does is a fool.

Sue, Midland, MI   July 26th, 2007 12:41 pm ET

I am just amazed that there are people posting who still believe all this is a Democratic ploy to weaken the USA. Believe me, Bush and Co are doing fine on their own. And I guess you poor Republicans don't care that there is now an executive order banning protests, and that your leader wants total control of all branches in case of an emergency (he gets to say what that is, of course.) Anyone not terrified of this administration needs to do some reading and listening. The Democrats are trying to save this country…and impeachment is the only thing that will do it-by Jan. 2009 Bush may have appointed himself King, and I'll be leaving the country.

MCD, San Francisco   July 26th, 2007 12:40 pm ET

I find it amazing that our AG, the most important person standing for honesty, justice and integrity in our government, can sit there and lie and obstruct.

But what I find even more amazing is that there apparently are Americans out there who think this is just fine.

MediaJunkie, Washington DC   July 26th, 2007 12:36 pm ET

At the moment, this has nothing to do with the surveillance program, but the fact that Gonzales has been caught in a lie. And it's not just Dems who aren't happy with Gonzales.

Pete, T.S. FL   July 26th, 2007 12:16 pm ET

Ed Wood,

I don’t know what world you live in, apparently reality is not part of it. Your suggestion that:
If you do not “support the mission” you cannot possibly by any stretch of the imagination “support the troops” How can you “support the troops” and try to hinder their ability to do their job.
Is probably one of the most absurd and uneducated statements ever made on this forum. First of all one dead soldier is one too many. Soldiers are human beings and not numbers as you suggest. At Pearl we were attacked by Japan and we responded to Japan. On 9/11 Al Qaeda attacked us and after initially engaging them in Afghanistan we attacked Iraq.
The job of a great military is not to wage war; the job of the military is to maintain peace through deterrence.
Maybe you ought to take your “civilian a..” down to the recruiters office and sign up so that the rest of the AMERICAN public can enjoy their FREEDOMS………………………………………….

“WE THE PEOPLE”

Jon, Sacramento ~ Ca   July 26th, 2007 11:58 am ET

Where are the other participants? If Gonzales is lying about his reason for meeting with Ashcroft in the hospital… Where is Ashcroft now to testify?

If Gonzales is lying about a meeting at the White house - which (based on Negroponte's memo) included Denny Hastert, Bill Frist, Tom Daschle, Nancy Pelosi - Why aren't these individuals being called to testify?

Seems rather easy. Instead of day after day testimony from Gonzales - get these other parties who were present and get their testimony.

Or is the another agenda the panel is seeking??

LQ, Rochester MN   July 26th, 2007 10:52 am ET

Has there ever been such a dishonest AG since John Mitchell???
Nixon's "good old boys network" made me sick with their total disregard for the law but Dubya's are worse.

Jim St.Louis MO   July 26th, 2007 10:34 am ET

Why cant we get an ounce of truth out of anyone in this administration. For the first hispanic attorney general of the US, he is not leaving behind an honorable legacy that his people would be proud of.

Mikey Boy Dayton OH   July 26th, 2007 10:33 am ET

It is sad that a member of the Administration can come to Congress and "construct" a story, one that can readily be disproven.
AG Gonzalez did not actually do anything wrong, other than staying past his welcome as the DOJ leader.

steven pentecost;martin tn   July 26th, 2007 10:32 am ET

all republicans should have this lyingfool as their lawyer just as all of them should have shrub as their pilot when they take their entire families on vacation.

Bubba, Swainsboro GA   July 26th, 2007 10:16 am ET

Gosh, what a shock! Do you suppose he might have been somewhat less than candid with us before? He seemed so . . . honest.

Thnkaboutit   July 26th, 2007 10:07 am ET

Which do you most trust with your families security?

1)Politicians

2)Media

3)Honors student, US Air Force, Rice University, Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School, Texas Secretary of State, Texas Supreme Court

Ron, Seattle, WA   July 26th, 2007 10:07 am ET

Gonzales is a liar and a co-conspirator with the Bush / Chenney / Rove cabal. Impeach this farce of justice!

Sayak Mukherjee, Anaheim Hills CA   July 26th, 2007 9:56 am ET

This man has besmirched the name of Justice in our country. He is truly despicable, and if he had any sense of decency, he would step down immediately.

His vileness stretched beyond partisan lines. Democrat, Republican, regardless… this level corruption should not be tolerated, much less condoned.

Shame on you, Mr. Gonzalez. You have failed your country.

Steve Dallas, Texas   July 26th, 2007 9:56 am ET

Gonzales shouldn't even say the word "intelligence." While he's at it, he should also strike the work "integrity" from his vocabulary.

ReadBtwthlins   July 26th, 2007 9:55 am ET

Gonzales is doing what's necessary to protect the American people. ie.., his job. If Clinton and Janet Reno had put in half this effort, 9/11 and the Iraq war would not have happened..

Ryan, New York, NY   July 26th, 2007 9:46 am ET

Don't worry Albo, they'll commute any sentence you get.

Bill Kilpatrick, Lakeland, Florida   July 26th, 2007 9:45 am ET

Here, as before, Gonzalez's statements are highly dubious, practically inviting challenge. Gonzalez has a track record of putting the president's agenda ahead of the law, of avoiding disclosure and discussion, and then of skirting the issue when he's been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Now that there is a smoking gun memo, I hope somebody calls the Fire Marshall. This man occupies a position of public trust. Is it not asking that we have a person there whom we can trust?

godiva, hickory, nc   July 26th, 2007 9:44 am ET

Holy Jesus. Is anybody paying attention to what is happening to our government? Is there any way these people can be taken out before they destroy it entirely?

Carol, Albuquerque, New Mexico   July 26th, 2007 9:39 am ET

Maybe Gonzales should buy "A Few Good Men" and maybe he will see that he'll remember what being his own man was about and remember he used to be honest and knew what integrity was about.

devon, toronto, on   July 26th, 2007 9:31 am ET

Gonzales can smirk all he wants, because he knows the Dictator has his back.

Ed Wood Pierson MI   July 26th, 2007 9:30 am ET

I watched this waste of time and money on CSPAN. I hope you democrats get your way. Maybe you will win the white house. Then shut down all terrorist survelience programs.

Then maybe you'll get the memo. Just because we declare peace don't make it so. Alqaeda has been at war with us for a long time and will be at war with us for a long time.

Unfortunately for us the American public that will mean many more of us will have to die.

By the numbers aproximately 3000 American soldiers were killed @ Perl Harbor.

Aproximately 404,000 American soldiers lost their lives in the ensuing conflict.

Aproximately 3000 American civilians lost their lives on 9/11.

We have only lost approximately 3500 american soldiers in this conflict.

As far as wars go 3500 is a low number.

You must believe Civilians are worth less than soldiers.

When all is said and done isn't it the job of soldiers to fight so that civilians can enjoy the freedoms they have.

I'm just saying all in all the American soldiers are doing an excellent job. I just wish the Democrats would quit trying to micromanage their job and SUPPORT THEIR JOB.

If you do not "support the mission" you cannot possibly by any streach of the imagination "support the troops"

How can you "support the troops" and try to hinder their abillity to do their job.

I am calling you out on that that just don't jive.

Michael, Washington, DC   July 26th, 2007 9:27 am ET

Impeach Him.

Put the AG in Gitmo   July 26th, 2007 9:26 am ET

Glad to see you guys are actually doing some reporting on this story.

Bob, Dallas, Tx.   July 26th, 2007 9:26 am ET

Someone needs to start proof-reading this stuff.

Matt Houston, Texas   July 26th, 2007 9:25 am ET

Does he not care that he is going to go down as probably one of the worst Attorney Generals ever?

H. D. Schmidt   July 26th, 2007 9:16 am ET

So, what else is new in the nest of corruption, there in Washington? Especially in my Republican party now under George W. the Emperor of the American Empire, the most farreaching and vicious than all the rest of the past put together, while doing so demanding God to bless all America's doing most evil ones. If more and more horrendous war machineries had ever been the final say as a permanent balm of freedom and justice for all men anywhere on planet earth, humanity should now live in peace and security in any spot in the world. However, the more one hears as to what goes on right here in America, our very children, no matter the age even the ones in a mother's womb are evermore in dangeror, as rapists roam the streets of America anywhere they please, plus the word abortion/murder flying back and forth between parties and politicians; as a matter of fact, less safe and more in danger than where I migrated from as a legal immigrant 51 years ago and soom becoming a Stauch Conservative Christian Republican. Yes, I remember with nostalgia when my little daughter and her friends could walk safely a half a mile to their School private Christian School, but now, especially little girls they better watch out. Yet the insulting blabber by even the self-appointed Emperor that America is safer now and that all he is doing with his evermore inhumane and horrendous war machinery around the globe is to take freedom, and mind you at gun point. While in reality one of the greatest reasons he is there in Iraq is in the interest of oil, and in reality, the heck with humans there beeing mowed down like weeds. If the Founding Fathers were to rise they would be absolutely scandalized finding their America now worse than the British ever were. But these is America, and still singing: God shed his grace on thee, while the evil one is dances and smiling from ear to ear. Again, this with no apology!

Gonzo, Cedar Rapids, IA   July 26th, 2007 8:59 am ET

January 2009 can't come fast enough.

Sudhir Malhotra   July 26th, 2007 8:33 am ET

Please edit this sentence:
Comey, who was in the hospital room that night, previously testified that he thought Card and Ashcroft were trying to “take advantage” of an ill Ashcroft. However, Ashcroft refused to overrule Comey’s decision.

Robert Worthingtonm, Garland Texas   July 26th, 2007 8:30 am ET

Impeachment. It is long overdue. At the very least, Gonzalez should be impeached. If our congress is as determined to restore accountability to our government as they claimed to be during election time, then they will impeach Cheney and Bush as well. It was probably just a lie to get votes though. Our constitution says that nobody is above the law. This is obviously not true. If you are President, Vice-President, or an appointee (and long time friend of the President) then you are above the law.

R. Palmer   July 26th, 2007 8:23 am ET

Its time for a special prosecutor to look into the questionable testimony of Gonzales and the actions of the President and Vice President. The current occupant of the White House and the Vice President are seriously damaging our constitutional rights. The Republicans in Congress and the Senate had better get on board with the Democrats soon, because they are losing support FAST and will lose their seats in the next election. Impeach Bush and Cheney.

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