Guess what anti war supporters. When the democratic president is elected and we invade Sudan and Pakistan with 50,000 left over troops from the Iraqi civil war situation, how is that going to sit with you?

Not sure what the previous poster means by look what experience has got us. Afterall, Bush and Cheney only had corporate big money experience - no political experience.

Other than that I completely agree. Biden is simply an incredible talker. He's able to talk about Iraq and all the other issues better than anyone else but
Look who has raised the most money: Obama.
Look who has found the most news media: Obama.
Look who is courageous enough to run as a minority: Obama.

He deserves the presidential bid because of that courage, that courage to run as a minority. And not only that but he is able to tell the American people exactly what they want to hear and in a way that is as simplified as the signs of a rally for America.

For simplifying the war on terror into a 5 step plan which is clear enough for a child to understand, for soliciting the most donations for his campaign, for gaining the hearts of the American media, and for running as a minority, I'd say Obama deserves to be president of the United States of America. OBAMA 08!!!!!

Well look what experience has gotten us!
I would say that Biden is the mouth and Obama is the brains in the Democratic field. Obama is also the one with courage
to even run for President as a minority.
His enthusiasm and ability to clearly articulate a position and stand by the will of the people is truly a democratic position. I also agree that Biden is positioning himself with the Clinton
political machine and oh yes, he does have that book to sell. What better way
to sell a book than to latch on to the
hottest presidential candidate Barak Obama!!!

Joe Biden really hit the nail smack dab square on the head this go around and sunk it completely in only one very swift and light blow. I did read Barack Obama’s speech in its entirety, and honestly, I do not know were this guy is coming from? He speaks very loosely and dose say a lot; but did he write the entire speech him self? How dose an inexperienced senator; such as the likes as him; get some idiotic impression that he will be elected for the highest office our land? I do not know exactly how many times he wrote in his speech (when I am President and/or as President will do this); only with a five (5) easy step plan, He is promising to save the world like he some kind of god or something; what is in his mind? Dose he think he is some damn dead pharaoh that has come back from the after life! Well he had better get started now, weather he is elected too the Presidential office or not. Dose he process the true capabilities for even the thought of handling the most powerful office in our Nation? Or dose he believe American citizens are the most ignorant people on our plant? Because he will need a lot more one hundred (100) days just to fulfill his 5th step plan that needs to be implemented first, and cover all his bases in doing so. Obama is nothing but Democratical Rhetoric.

DJ -

defending Obama you say "No. It's not all rhetoric. Rhetoric is talk with nothing to back it up."

Just what has Bama done to "back it up"?

Obama is nothing but talk and most of it is sloppy.

Obama: empty idealism with no experience backing it up. The only thing bold about Obama is his PR team. Obama would crumble in a one-on-one debate with Biden and more importantly, on the world stage.

He's got a lot to prove before he deserves the presidential seat. We can't afford another falsely bolstered child president.

So let me get this right– when Republicans suggest expanding the war it's a bad thing, but when The Messiah suggests invading new countries it's a good thing? No liberal bias. Gotcha.

Democrats are fighters, not war hawks. We should've taken the "war on terror" where the terrorists were in the 1st place, and not to a place to create new ones. Obama, Biden, I don't care who said it first as long as someone is saying it.

I don't know or care if Obama's position is bold or not OR if it is "johnny come lately" or not. It is reasonable. I'm glad Obama and Biden agree. I don't care who gets the credit. Hopefully, Bush, Clinton, and everyone else will agree too, IF it is the best policy. I'm fine if it is Bush's idea by the end - if that leads to more rapid implementation of the best strategy for the country.

Mr Biden. You should have asked tougher questions before you voted for this war 4 yrs ago. Obama is just giving bold ideas on how to combat our real enemies after you and your ‘experienced’ collegues droped the ball about Iraq.

Jim I love your point! Obama 08!

Sounds like he is actually supporting his friend Shrillary rather than running his own campaign. If the Democratic establishment continues to let the Clintons twist their arms for their endorcement of Hillary, the Dems can blame themselves when they lose the 2008 election.

Funny, I have never associated Joe Biden and bold leadership in the same sentence nor do I believe it is ever possible.

And now he has a book? Perhaps it should be run through a plagiarism utility. The inability to come up with one's own original thoughts and words necessarily discounts one from placing phrases such as bold leadership next to his or her name.

Biden attacks Obama for announcing an aggressive strategy?

Meanwhile Hillary and the rest of the gang have NO opinion or yet to publically state a position on the war on terror.

Yes Biden is looking like he is going to be Clinton's potential ally. There is no other good reason why he would criticize Obama on that statement.

I applaud Obama for taking the initiative and not being afraid to voice an actual plan.

No he is not all rhetoric. Rhetoric is talk with nothing to back it up.

biden just want attention and he will not get it,how come he is punctual and yet nobody seems to have noticed him but every body noticed barack obama the late comer,its definately better to be late and have ur points noticed than to be punctual and yet remain obscure.

Kudos to the Biden campaign for calling it like it is. Obama can say whatever he wants about fighting terrorism, etc., but it all starts with the strategy of what to do with Iraq. So far, only Biden's camp has put out a credible, detailed plan (whether you agree with it or not) about what it would do in Iraq and, more importantly, what it would do AFTER it does what it would do in Iraq. That's the kicker. It's easy for these candidates to say, "We need to leave Iraq." I want to know what they'd do about Iraq after we took whatever action they suggest. Only Biden's talking about that right now. He deserves credit for it. As for the rest of the field, talk all you want about what we'll do with terrorism and international relations, but it's all meaningless unless and until you answer the hard questions about Iraq.

[...] today to redeploy troops to Afghanistan, Senator Joe Biden went on the attack, essentially saying too little, too late. “We find it a little disingenuous that Sen. Obama is hailing this as a new bold initiative when [...]

This "attack" actually lends a great deal of creditability to Obama position. It's hard to write Obama's position off as naive when Biden, one of the most experienced candidiates running in either party, implicitly awknowledges that it's a good one.

Poor Mr Biden. You should have asked tougher questions before you voted for this war 4 yrs ago. Obama is just giving bold ideas on how to combat our real enemies after you and your 'experienced' collegues droped the ball about Iraq.

"The release stated that Biden has “already initiated or accomplished” most of the propositions listed in Obama’s speech."

Too bad no one listened to Biden when he said it. Obama is obviously far superior at getting his message across to the American people.

Obama is nothing but rhetoric.

Now all you Democrats, take heed. None of these turkeys is talking about ending war, they are just talking about where the war ought to be, or where the next one ought to be. And these are the champions of the poor?

Black Sabbath has a great song, "War Pigs" - check out the lyrics. Apropos.

If you're wedded to the democratic party rhetoric, at least pick Kucinich or Gravel. If you're disillusioned with their lack of follow through, I implore you look into Ron Paul.

Sounds like Mr. "Always Got My Foot In My Mouth" Biden might be angling for a VP position with Team Hillarious.