Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday said the "American way" of handling health care is not a single-payer system.
(CNN) - Charging that Democrats' health care proposals would lead to "socialized medicine," Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani said Tuesday he wants to give American citizens more control over their health care.
"We've got to do it the American way," Giuliani said during a town hall forum in Rochester, New Hampshire. "The American way is not single-payer, government-controlled anything. That's a European way of doing something; that's frankly a socialist way of doing something."
"That's why when you hear Democrats in particular talk about single-mandated health care, universal health care, what they're talking about is socialized medicine."
Giuliani's health care plan, unveiled at the forum, includes giving taxpayers tax credits to purchase private health insurance. The highlight of Giuliani's plan: a $15,000 tax deduction for each family to buy private health insurance.
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– CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
Danny in Martinsburg:
A little dramatic there, aren't you buck-o? I don't believe anyone wants anyone to die. And quite honestly, no one in America is denied basic healthcare. Public and private hospitals write off 10's of billions of dollars every year providing care for people who can't pay.
What this is about is accountability. Someone wrote earlier about not being able to find employees for his business, even though he provides health insurance. You would think that people would be lining up to work there.
We had a program called TennCare here in Tennessee that was providing insurance to those who couldn't afford it or were uninsurable through the private sector. Sadly, the system was scaled back dramatically for several reasons; 1) Fraud 2)Abuse 3) It couldn't be fully funded without a huge increase in taxes which the majority of citizens did not want to pay.
I suggest to those of you who feel so guilty and want to take care of all those less fortunate, please send a thousand extra dollars (or whatever you can afford) to the IRS this year and I'm CERTAIN they will wisely distribute those funds where they can do the most good.
This from Rudy who left firemen without the tools they needed to survive when they went into the twin towers to rescue civilians.
If giving our first responders the tools they need to rescue US citizens in distress & have the possibility to survie is socialism, well, maybe we should become good citizens & also be 'labelled' socialists.
A few points.
1- I too question the tax deduction, and how it would be tiered. I pay my taxes, I work and I make a reasonable wage for my area, however individual insurance is way too restrictive and cost prohibitave. I can only imagine how much more unattainable it would be if I were making only minimum wage.
2) Socialized medicine sounds nice, but there is more to it. Yes, it makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy to hear that everyone would have medical coverage. However, have you though about the taxes that many European countries are taking? You think we pay enough in taxes, wait until you check out socialist countries. Also, part of the advantage to indpendent health care is that it's in a Dr.'s best interest to continue their education, to be the best of the best, to get specialized training, where in socialized medicine, there really is no incentive to go beyond just the bare requirements. Thank you for coverage, but I'd also like to have confidence in the Dr if I have something beyond high blood pressure or a broken bone. Specialist are more costly, part of that is because they attain more education and experience in that field to make the better than your everyday Dr.
The current health care system is broken, without a doubt, but I'm not sure that the socialized medicine is the cure. There has to be some middle ground. Something that makes getting medical coverage more attainable for the less than rich individual, but that doesn't give the goverment control over individual health. I don't think the current goverment, or any goverment should dictate when medical care can be obtained.
This picture makes me hot. Rudy looks like a big bear coming to eat me.
When will they get it, we already have socialized medicine in this country. It's called 'Medicare'! Everyone of us who isn't 65 yet will be placed on it. So, if it isn't good enough for the rest of our citizens then why are we put in a socialized medical system when we turn 65?
In case you hadn't heard, Medicare is practically bankrupt and seniors need supplemental insurance unless they have deep pockets.
National Health has problems, too. Typically, it will raise the level of care for the have nots, but will lower the level of care for the haves.
Re Glenn B's comment regarding "National Healthcare"–"I just want it, becouse I do not have any insurance & would like it provided for me."
In other words, you want me to pay for your health care. Anything else you'd like while you're sponging? A nice steak dinner? A new car? New shoes?
It looks like there are at least two classes of socialists: dumb ones who seem to think that all the government needs to do is print more money to pay for whatever goodies they want, and smarter ones who know that the money to pay for socialism is ultimately stolen from those nasty "rich" people but ether don't care or want to punish them for being "rich."
Umm, does anyone really think that stuff won't be denied under a government system (as some insurance companies do now?) Ask the people whose medical bills are already paid for by the government (50% of medical bills are) whether they are denied coverage for effective treatments. They OFTEN are. There is no utopia ANYWHERE in the world where everyone gets all the best treatment paid for the by the government. No country can afford it, so they set limits. How is this so different from our current system?
America is based on the dreams that we can do better than our parents and the generation before us. If we turn to a socialized healthcare system and every doctor makes the same and has no reason to be better or try harder or work longer hours, because they are going to make the same either way, why would any of our kids go to school to be a doctor....go to school to be an acountant or lawyer....something that the government isn't controlling and something that you can make as much money as you are willing to work for. And all of you that think that it is the rich person's job to take care of you get off of your ass and do something. Take out loans for school like so many doctors do and make something of yourself!! Stop thinking that just because some people went out and actually made something of themselves that that means that they need to take care of your lazy ass!!