A panel that included lesbian rocker Melissa Etheridge questions Sen. Barack Obama.
LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) - Democratic presidential hopefuls stressed their common ground with the gay and lesbian community in a televised forum, but one significant exception loomed - same-sex marriage.
Thursday night's forum in Los Angeles was sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign Foundation. It was broadcast on the gay-themed cable network Logo, making it the first-ever televised presidential forum on gay issues.
The group said it offered Republican presidential candidates the opportunity to participate in their own forum, but they declined.
Don't we have bigger issues to focus on in this country at the moment than if "Heather and Jen" can get married?
Ever see more dancing around issues in your life?
This will come back to haunt Democrats.
Only self-loathing homosexuals are republicans.
Funny, they don't want to tough gay marriage with a ten foot pole since all these states have shot it down. They don't want to shoot themselves in the foot. But I'd bet they'd be all over it if that's what the majority wanted. but, of course, it's not. Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve.
Gay issues are a bunch of non sense. Guys are dying in Iraq, the American dollar is becoming worthless, and candidate waist time with answering questions like, "Are you born gay or do you choose to be gay?" NON SENSE
The only two things I have to say about this gay and lesbian issue is that please please stop comparing it to "civil rights" of 60s. NOT THE SAME THING, NOT SAME ISSUE, don't be so stupid. Civil rights was a black issue attempting for african-americans to have same rights as American whites and everyone else here in USA – not about sexual preferences. That is an insult to all african, black, negro Americans period.
Second, same sex marriage, partners, etc., I am a woman married to a man period. Stop trying to force others to your views. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and life styles but, I do not want or need to see it on TV – "in my face" kissing, hugging, etc. Other than these TV Bride and Marriage shows, I don't know of any couple – man/woman flaunting their ceremony on live TV. I find it personally disguisting. Keep it at home OK and I don't care if you have a domestic partner, man marry man, woman marry woman, just know you will never be the same as me – a woman married to a man producing future citizens of the USA.
Nice to see John Edwards "coming out" and now agreeing that gay marriage should be ok. Conveniently at this gay-lesbian convention.
John – you're weak and transparant, unsuitable for the office of President.
While it is great that they all agree on civil unions, why can't they just anwser yes or no when asked if they agree with same sex marriages?
Government needs to get out of the marriage business altogether. It’s an obvious violation of the separation of church and state. Civil unions to provide social and legal protection should be available to everyone regardless of gender. Marriage customs should be left to religious and cultural organizations.
Our churches have the right to be pathetic bigoted homophobic institutions. Our government does not.
Talk is all the dems have done for the gay community. Remember "Don't ask, don't tell"?? Their your BFF, Right....;)
At least Republicans are honest about their convictions.
While there may be gay issues or black issues, pandering to these minorities by candidates trivializes the real issues of transcendent importance to Americans generally.
Did the gay community expect anything different? Democrats know that have the gay vote in the bag and they they have to appeal to southern and middle America if they want in the White House.
Besides, this country has more pressing issues besides gay marriage. We are at war with Islamic fascists that do not care if the American they kill is gay or straight, social security is in the toilet, and let's not forget about steroids in baseball .
With all due respect to the gay community there are bigger issues in America right now.
Did the gay community expect anything different? Democrats know that they have the gay vote in the bag and that they have to appeal to southern and middle America if they want to win back the White House.
Besides, this country has more pressing issues besides gay marriage. We are at war with Islamic fascists that do not care if the American they kill is gay or straight, social security is in the toilet, and let’s not forget about steroids in baseball (rolls eyes).
I am so sick of hearing about the gay community. What about the rest of us? No one cares if you are gay or not. They should not get any special treatment for any reason. If your gay so what , who cares and why do they think they should get more respect than the rest of us "normal" people. Same sex marriage should not be allowed anywhere in this country for any reason.
It was my first time ever watching LOGO, and I thought this was the best candidate forum format so far! My only beef is that the time was too short. Kudos to LOGO!
I want to see this type of format on PBS, with each candidate given a full hour (at least) in the same format (with no editing or teleprompter). And have each hour be on a different subject. What with the election season starting so soon, there should be plenty of time to get ALL the candidates vetted.
I'm a Democrat and I'm a liberal, but I am getting sick and tired of the strident tone of the Gay rights crowd. I, persoanlly, find homosexuality "sick", but am more than willing to leave them alone if they are willing to leave me and the rest of society alone. If they do not, then I am more than willing to work to pass laws to ensure MY RIGHTS to be left alone by them. So far, the Gar Rights legislation that has been passed has been used as a club to spark thousands of lawsuits against churchs that think homosexuality is a sin, against landlords and business owners to believe the homosexual lifestyle is perverted, againstr all sorts of ordinary people who are more than willing to "let be", but the homosexual activists apparently are bent on ramming their twisted lifestyle down our throats. Well, guys, it's over! The games up. We wont play your game and calling someone "homophobic" becasue they believe as I do, as the vast majority of the American people believe, or filing lawsuits against pareents and schools becasue "that's so gay" has become a derisive term, is merely puting you people completely beyond the stage of civilized society. It has already lost you THIS liberals support. Now, shut up.
reading through these comments is frightning. they are so many bigots
Isn't it ironic that the most liberal state- MASS has the lowest divorce rate, matter of fact all 3 lowest divorce rate states are blue/ and guess who has the highest divorce rates not including Nevada , yup your right all southern states-in the bible belt- HYPOCRITS, yeah, right the sanctuary of marriage.
IF no one cares whether "your gay or not", then what's the big deal with letting them marry? If no one cares then why don't we just let them marry and move on with other issues. Enough said.
Dear homophobes and bigots,
This was one of probably a hundred debates/forums where candidates will get to discuss/pander to, different interest groups. It's no different than pandering to the exclusive concerns of union members, farmers, or EVANGELICALS, which is part of every political campaign, but strangely, there was no whining about,'...don't we have anything better/more important than...", their concerns, after the other forums.
If the same things were posted after the Tavis Smiley PBS, or AFL-CIO debates, replacing, "gay" with "African-American", or "union members"
or if you just substitute those terms in these posts, the bigotry and hatred would be evident even to the misguided souls who authored them.
Here's an example of what I mean. I didn't single you out, sir, you were just the last post;
"I am so sick of hearing about the (African American), community. What about the rest of us? No one cares if you are (Black) or not. They should not get any special treatment for any reason. If your(sic) (African-American) so what , who cares and why do they think they should get more respect than the rest of us "normal" people. (Inter-racial) marriage should not be allowed anywhere in this country for any reason."
How does that sound to you, Stuart Berryman, Lexington, Kentucky?
You SHOULD be ashamed.
Whats the definition of someone that does the same thing over and over, always expecting a different result?
Wow, I'm simply amazed at the ignorance and bigotry in these posts. I think if heteros were told they couldn't marry, adopt kids, or serve openly in the military, they'd think these issues were important and a matter of concern. My apologies to those who disagree, but any time a group of people are denied rights simply because of who they are, it's discrimination, it's un-American, and it IS important. And how the heck do you claim that gays receive special treatment? What country do you live in?? Last I checked, when a government and a people (like many of you homophobes) discriminate against a minority simply because they're different, that's the complete opposite of special treatment. Seriously, I'd love to hear justifications for your completely ridiculous and baseless comments. And finally, it is utterly ironic that the same people who think gay issues don't matter and gays shouldn't have equal rights also think that they themselves are true Americans. America is about liberty, justice, and equality FOR ALL. Read your Constitution folks. All the rights you have apply to gays as well, no matter how "gross" you're immature and junior-high mindsets find the lifestyle to be. You say you don't want us "imposing" our lifestyle on you. Why don't you refrain from imposing your bigoted views on us.
This has everything to do with religion. The fact that you object to it based on faith doesn't mean that you deny people their right in the LAND OF THE FREE.
Personally, I'm straight, so I don't understand of having feelings towards the same sex, but I do have those exact feelings and emotions with women.
But I do know that everyone that is not a criminal/convict has an equal right in this country.
Or at least I was raised to believe that.
Watching and hearing these guys talk, they are scared to say what is right because THEY WILL LOSE VOTES.
"Our churches have the right to be pathetic bigoted homophobic institutions. Our government does not.
Posted By David, Salinas, CA : August 10, 2007 11:49 am "
YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT! EVERY AMERICAN THAT PAYS TAXES SHOULD HAVE AN EQUAL RIGHT UNDER LAW.... FIRST SLAVES, THEN WOMEN... NOW IT'S TIME TO FINALLY INCLUDE EVERYONE.
Dave writes: "I'm simply amazed at the ignorance...." and "America is about liberty, justice, and equality FOR ALL. Read your Constitution folks."
Sorry Dave, the Constitution mentions liberty and justice in the preamble but stops short of equality for all. The declaration alludes to all being created equal and having certain inalienable rights endowed by our creator.
Felons are denied rights afforded by the seconds amendment, if we embrace equality for all we'd give 'em guns and let 'em vote...wait, they can vote in Palm Beach and Chicago...or is that only dead guys in Chicago...no wait that's St. Louis.
You question that gays receive special treatment, but is there hate crime legislation for Christians or white heterosexual males?
Your post, beside containing many typographical and/or grammatical errors, is full of the inflammatory speech and namecalling you so deride. How can you be taken seriously?