August 14, 2007
Posted: 01:11 PM ET

Rudy is No. 1 in two new national polls.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Two new national polls released Tuesday indicate former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani continues to lead the field of Republican White House hopefuls, but former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has gained ground in both polls.

Giuliani leads Romney and former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson by at least ten points in both surveys.

A CBS News poll conducted August 8-12 has Giuliani on top with 38 percent, followed by Thompson at 18 percent and Romney with 13 percent. Thompson dropped seven percentage points since last month while Romney gained five percentage points in that same time. The number of Republicans who say they are satisfied with their candidate choices has increased 16 percent since June, a finding that may account for Romney's uptick in support and Thompson's decline.

"It's possible that Thompson's delay in officially announcing his candidacy has given Romney the opportunity to get a second look from Republicans, and perhaps some of them are starting to like what they see," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

The CBS News Poll surveyed 302 Republican primary voters and carries a margin of error of plus or minus six percentage points.

In a separate poll conducted August 9-12 by American Research Group (ARG), Romney gained six percentage points since July to tie Thompson for second place at 16 percent. Both trail Giuliani who tops the poll with 27 percent.

But The ARG poll shows Giuliani's support dropping slightly, while the CBS Poll shows the former New York City mayor gaining ground. The difference between the two polls may be due to Newt Gingrich, who was included in the ARG poll but not in the CBS survey. That difference makes it difficult to directly compare the two surveys. Since Gingrich has not entered the race, the CBS poll may be a better indication of the current state of the GOP race.

The vast majority of interviews for both surveys were conducted before Romney won Saturday's Iowa Straw Poll, so it's unlikely that his win influenced the results.

Yet even with his gains, Romney and the rest of the field continue to stare at Giuliani's back.

"Most Republicans continue to associate Giuliani with 9/11 and his record as New York City's mayor," said Holland. "That's a positive image that the other GOP candidates will have to work hard to overcome."

The ARG poll surveyed 600 Republican primary voters and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

– CNN Senior Political Producer Sasha Johnson

Filed under: Presidential Candidates


Evan Esteves, Boca Raton, FL   August 15th, 2007 8:55 pm ET

I wonder if you Ron Paul supporters are going to vote for the Republican nominee when Paul loses. That would be true hypocrisy on your parts.

HJ, Pitts, PA   August 15th, 2007 6:09 pm ET

Romney…"even looks like a President." This is exactly our problem. We either cannot or will not delve any deeper than the surface; we are all about image (and the more superficial, the better we like it) and to hell with anything else. I don't want someone in office who looks and sounds like a President; I want someone with integrity, moral stamina and a strong commitment to the Constitutional values upon which this society was founded. I realize that literally NO ONE cares about these things anymore; in fact, I'm willing to bet that if Britney Spears or Paris Hilton ran for office, many bubble-headed Americans who haven't a clue as to what is at stake would throw their support behind them, thinking the whole thing a big joke. No wonder the rest of the world is hard-pressed to see us as anything other than simple-minded or foolish. We are.

Roy, Pensacola FL   August 15th, 2007 4:20 pm ET

Why is the main stream media is blocking or boycotting Ron Paul. I am a life long Republican. I am also an Iraqi War veteran and disabled veteran. Is this America or a conspiracy state. He is the only candidate. The rest are all the same. I can't tell the difference between Democrats and Republicans any more. I beg you please help Ron Paul save our great Republic. To me my friends and family he is our only and best hope. For our children for our future, we must have a tomorrow . The country cannot go on as is. I beseech you to more robustly cover this great American. Restorer of the Republic and possibly the last defender of the Constitution.
Sincerely,
RFD

Ryan, New York, NY   August 15th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Greg in Phoenix,
As a New York complainer, I'm getting to the point that I could care less if people believe me. I do realize that most people don't bother to become informed on the actual facts, so it's not surprising. They pick their side and go looking for support and no matter what side you're on, you can find support.

Like I said, with all the research that can be done about his time as mayor before 9/11, if the people of this country don't bother to heed the warnings and read about the other 7.75 years that he served as mayor, then elect him, they can sleep in the bed that they made for themselves.

This country has a problem in that it always has to have an enemy to fight in order to feel like we're united. Islam/Arabs are the new adversary and Rudy's right there leading the war chant.

Correct, some segments of the Arab population hated us, thus they committed terrorist acts and strive to commit more.

Incorrect is the Rudy-supported notion that this country has done nothing to incite their acts of violence. Especially today, in 2007, following 4.5 years of a war started by lies and supported by those who wanted to jump on the anti-Arab bandwagon and attack a country whose sole link with Al-Qaeda was their ethnic and religious background.

Perry, Thomas, Dallas   August 15th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

I agree somewhat with Greg in Phoenix, AZ. Rudy is capable of winning Democratic votes. Rudy IS a Democrat. He just happens to be running on the Republican ticket.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   August 15th, 2007 12:14 pm ET

Really intelligent, Al, but if you think that Giuliani will lose this election because he has been married more than once and has strained relations with some of his children I think you are failing to remember that he is running against a CLINTON for God's sake.

Someone who stays in a sham marriage ONLY SO THEY CAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT ON THEIR HUSBAND'S LEGACY. Don't think you can top that, Al.

John Thomas, Edina, MN   August 15th, 2007 11:08 am ET

Giuliani's Platform:

1. 9/11
2. September 11th
3. 9-1-1
4. Nine Eleven
5. 9/11/2001
6. Islamofacistkillerterroristbombbombpeople hate our freedumz
7. 9/11

The most hilarious part is that all Giuliani has is his exposure to 9/11–exposure being the keyword, meaning that he didn't do JACK on 9/11. Giuliani is worthless.

AL, San Francisco, CA   August 15th, 2007 9:39 am ET

In the republican kingdom of blinds, the one eye man (Giuliani) is the king!

Sad to see that Giuliani is the best that the republicans can have to be the presidential candidate.

He will be wiped out in the next election against Hillary Clinton, as the american people get to know more about him, his wife and former kids. As one chinese saying states, you can conquer the world only after you have conducted yourself well, and had arranged a good harmonious home environment. His disgruntled kids from prior marriages towards him, his 3rd (or 4th?) marriage, and the behavior of his current wife, show that he does not have a good moral judgement or character.

You want him to represent america abroad, and the role model of your kids? Naaaaaaaaa

Chris   August 15th, 2007 8:42 am ET

Again, why doesn't anyone ever seem able to vote in these polls? Whom might I ask are being polled? Has anyone ever been called by a major media call center to ask their opinion?

Chicopee, MA   August 15th, 2007 7:28 am ET

In the past I have thought that Guiliani was using tough tactics for what he thought was right. His most recent comments where he said that troops cannot be pulled out of Iraq because "We don't want another Viet Nam" scare me. I wonder if he meant that Viet Nam was a failure because America left? In that case it is just disgusting, because if America had stayed, would I be standing here today writing this article? Would any of us Americans be here? So many people died, for nothing. Viet Nam was a stupid war that was obviously a mistake, that many of our top officials that were making the laws at that time admitted. He should NOT be president just for this fact that he cannot admit when something may be wrong. He is bullheaded, and we don't need anymore of that in this country.

Evan Esteves, Boca Raton, FL   August 15th, 2007 5:29 am ET

Greg from Phoenix…speaking as a former New Yorker who lived in New York during the Giuliani years…I think I speak for all New Yorkers and ask you to please kindly stick to what you know:

And what you know is Arizona republican politics. You know nothing of Giuliani's divisiveness as Mayor of New York. So like I said stick to Arizona politics buddy.

AA, NYC, NOW RESIDING IN ARIZONA   August 15th, 2007 5:06 am ET

ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR MR. GIULIANI, WOULD BE CONFIRMING THEIR OBTUSENESS WITH THOSE WHO VOTED FOR MR. BUSH. HE IS NOT A GOOD CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WASN'T A VERY GOOD MAYOR. AND, VOTING FOR HIM, BECAUSE HE WAS THE MAYOR OF NYC, DURING 9/11, DOES NOT QUALIFY HIM TO BE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY. I BELIVEVE WE ALL HAVE FAULTS, BUT MR. GIULIANI'S ARE ABUNDANT. FAR TOO MANY FOR SOMEONE WHO IS SEEKING THE NOMINATION FOR THE PRESIDENCY OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

Jake, Honolulu   August 15th, 2007 2:10 am ET

Sorry folks, Rudy's not going to get the nomination. Let's remember that republican voters are CONSERVATIVE. Everyone drills Romney becaused he USED to be pro-choice (like Reagan). Rudy IS pro-choice- currently- not used to be. He's also been married three times, supports the gay agenda, and has issues with gun control; you think he's going to win the CONSERVATIVE nomination!! Sure he did great with 9/11, but the only reason he's ahead in the polls is because people recognize his name because of 9/11. The only serious contender is Romney. He's intelligent, articulate, has a long track record of success as an executive, was a governor, has a great sense of humor, is conservative (hello- he's Mormon), and even looks like a President. No one listens to Ron Paul babble, and as far as Thompson goes, is anyone else sick of Southern Presidents??? Four of the last five Presidents have been from the South! Enough already. Let's get someone in the oval office that doesn't sound like a hillbilly!!!

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   August 14th, 2007 11:03 pm ET

I look forward to watching Rudy, a superior lawyer and politican, kicking the overgrown and overblown [derriere] of Hillary. He will be the first GOP President for whom I've ever voted if the Democrats persist in their death wish by nominating her.

Scott Clark, Salt Lake City, Utah   August 14th, 2007 10:26 pm ET

A president should not just be a "strong" & wise leader, but also someone worthy of emulation, an example of ethical & moral leadership –someone our children can admire. Giuliani's personal life doesn't meet this standard. This isn't France. Romney or McCain would be better choices.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   August 14th, 2007 7:27 pm ET

Smith,

While the Iraq War is certainly an important issue in the presidential election, it is not the most important issue to most Americans. The most important issues are: 1) national security/terrorism 2) illegal immigration 3) healthcare.

While many Americans are tired of the war, most understand why we can't just leave the Iraqi citizens high and dry. The anti-war left represents a relatively low % of Americans (although a very high one on this site no doubt) and has NO plan for how to best deal with the situation.

C.LyOns, New York, NY   August 14th, 2007 7:19 pm ET

To all of you who continually state that Giuliani was a horrible mayor, IT IS TIME TO FACE THE FACT THAT NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Objective people realize that NY is HEAVILY Democrat and therefore it is no suprise that some New Yorker's would come out swinging against Giuliani. Most Americans (and I suspect a great many NY citizens) have VERY favorable opinions about Giuliani and this is reflected in the polling going on in this country.

-Look, the only reason both Rudy G and HRC are so high in the polls this early…repeat "early"…is simply because they are the most recognizable of the candidates thus far..particularly in Rudy's case….McCain should be doing better but his entire campaign lacks coordination. It helped Rudy alot being splatted al the television after the 9/11 attacks….most people not informed automatically go to the most familiar choices (Rudy, Hil). As the campaigns continue we all will see these leads shrink and shrink….

Also-
If you don't think that the Republican base is enough to guarantee a win, might I refer you to the last 2 presidential elections

Have you heard of a thing called gerry-mandering…yeah its when Congressional representatives who are in the majority carve up voting districts to better fit their base…during Clinton's second term there was a thing called the "Republican Revolution" (Newt Gingrich ring a bell) and this movement systematically tried to 're-design' the politcal landscape to their liking thus splitting much of the democratic votes into small districts, thus when the votes are reported…you know the rest…we saw last November that it won't matter people are sick of the GOPs tactics and the way the have mislead the country for almost 12 years now…democratic votes will NOT go to Republicans this time around…..

Barabas, Hot City, TX   August 14th, 2007 6:48 pm ET

I would probably vote for Giuliani, but please stop with the meaningless polls.

Smith   August 14th, 2007 6:46 pm ET

Someone said Rudy Giuliani is the only Republican who can beat Hilary. That's funny. The Republicans cannot win if they pick someone who supports the war. The war is the #1 issue. While I'm not a supporter of Ron Paul, he is the only Republican that could challenge the Democrats come election time next year, because of his anti-war stance on par only with Kucinich.

Chuck Ladouceur Trenton Ontario Canada   August 14th, 2007 6:43 pm ET

THE ONLY POLES GIULIANI IS ON TOP OF ARE THE ONE UP HIS ASS.

VanReuter NY NY   August 14th, 2007 6:26 pm ET

Speaking as a democrat, and a New Yorker I am pulling for Rudy, as he would lose the election in Dukakis-esque numbers.
If not Rudy, certainly Ron Paul is a good choice. He too will lose in grand fashion, but he would be a lot more fun to follow than the Mayor of 9/11.

Van

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   August 14th, 2007 5:43 pm ET

C.Lyons,

Giuliani doesn't need to get a "substantial" amount of Democrat votes in order to win the election.

Any amount at all will be FAR more than the amount of Republican votes obtained by Hillary Clinton. Since Giuliani will get close to 100% of the Republican vote and at least half of the independent vote, any amount of Democratic voters would just add to his margin of victory. If you don't think that the Republican base is enough to guarantee a win, might I refer you to the last 2 presidential elections?

New York complainers,

To all of you who continually state that Giuliani was a horrible mayor, IT IS TIME TO FACE THE FACT THAT NO ONE BELIEVES YOU. Objective people realize that NY is HEAVILY Democrat and therefore it is no suprise that some New Yorker's would come out swinging against Giuliani. Most Americans (and I suspect a great many NY citizens) have VERY favorable opinions about Giuliani and this is reflected in the polling going on in this country.

Given the general unrest in this country about the Iraq War, the Democratic candidates should be FAR ahead of the Republicans, however this is not the case. Giuliani is leading or within the margin of error against Clinton in all the polls and ANY political commentator would tell you this is NOT good news for the Democrats.

James, Phoenix AZ   August 14th, 2007 5:07 pm ET

Lavelle,

Copying and pasting an article from a Russian rag? Citing a Bush critic who has called for impeachment and is quoted, "many supporters of George W. Bush "are brownshirts with the same low intelligence and morals as Hitler's enthusiastic supporters."

This article was printed July 20th. WONDER why none of the US media outlets have taken and run with it??

Gosh, maybe the captured Aliens from Area 51 will break free from government captivity and save the world from Bush and Company!

Tricia M Charlottetown PEI   August 14th, 2007 5:03 pm ET

Republican House HOPEFULS is Right!
Hope is all they've got.

Ryan, Provo,UT   August 14th, 2007 5:01 pm ET

The poll has a margin of error of +/- 6%!? Why in the world are we talking about things like Romney's gain of 5% and Thompson's drop of 7%? Its irresponsible reporting is what it is. You guys are not required to report every poll with a press release.

In other news, I really hope Rudy Guliani doesn't win the republican primary because I think he's got a decent chance of beating Hillary and I think of all candidates he may be the least qualified to lead the country. He was a mayor for crying out loud! A mayor. How in the world does that qualify you to lead a country?

Rex, Toledo, Ohio   August 14th, 2007 4:45 pm ET

Sure wish I'd get a call to participate in a poll. Curious. Have any of you that participate in this blog ever been contacted to do a National Political Poll?
Anyhow, nominating Rudy is a sure fire win for Hillary, and either way, a loss for our Country.

Ryan, New York, NY   August 14th, 2007 4:42 pm ET

If the American public elects this guy following all of the warnings from New Yorkers about the time period before 9/11, they deserve all of the fallout that will happen.

John S. Chicago, Illinois   August 14th, 2007 4:34 pm ET

sweet, THE less competition the Democrats have the better. This guy cant even get his own daughter to vote for him. he is a dirty mayor whom happend to come out the backside of 9-11 looking like a damn saint. he will historically flounder.

HJ, Pitts, PA   August 14th, 2007 4:33 pm ET

A business-as-usual, status quo Republican will never win the '08 election. I am a registered Republican and I will not vote for Rudy, Romney or McCain. I will write in the name of the candidate of my choosing, regardless of whether his name is on the ballot - or, I will abstain from voting. My conscience will not let me do otherwise.

C.LyOns, New York, NY   August 14th, 2007 4:29 pm ET

He is also capable of winning Democratic votes due to his moderate social values and this will ultimately lead to a fairly sound victory over Hillary, or Obama, in the general election.

-"insert laugh here"

There is no way Rudy G can gain any substantial amount of Democratic votes explicitly because he is trying to run a water-down version of the 04 Bush campaign….and if all you corn-huskers in the South and Midwest don't shape up you will be responsible for 12 years of GOP destruction of this country….and growing animosity toward this country in the world

Vote Obama 08!!!

bkrane Pittsburgh PA   August 14th, 2007 3:59 pm ET

Methinks this could be the first time that Repubs don't even field a candidate - could simply be an economic move to be well-funded in attempt to defeat Hilary in her re-election campaign.

lavelle   August 14th, 2007 3:45 pm ET

I just pray this doesnt happen vvvv

WASHINGTON, July 20 (RIA Novosti) - A former Reagan official has issued a public warning that the Bush administration is preparing to orchestrate a staged terrorist attack in the United States, transform the country into a dictatorship and launch a war with Iran within a year.

Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, blasted Thursday a new Executive Order, released July 17, allowing the White House to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies and giving the government expanded police powers to exercise control in the country.

Roberts, who spoke on the Thom Hartmann radio program, said: "When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order], there's no check to it. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule."

"The American people don't really understand the danger that they face," Roberts said, adding that the so-called neoconservatives intended to use a renewal of the fight against terrorism to rally the American people around the fading Republican Party.

Old-line Republicans like Roberts have become increasingly disenchanted with the neoconservative politics of the Bush administration, which they see as a betrayal of fundamental conservative values.

According to a July 9-11 survey by Ipsos, an international public opinion research company, President Bush and the Republicans can claim a mere 31 percent approval rating for their handling of the Iraq war and 38 percent for their foreign policy in general, including terrorism.

"The administration figures themselves and prominent Republican propagandists … are preparing us for another 9/11 event or series of events," he said. "You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda is not going to do it, it is going to be orchestrated."

Roberts suggested that in the absence of a massive popular outcry, only the federal bureaucracy and perhaps the military could put constraints on Bush's current drive for a fully-fledged dictatorship.

"They may have had enough. They may not go along with it," he said.

The radio interview was a follow-up to Robert's latest column, in which he warned that "unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney, a year from now the U.S. could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran."

Roberts, who has been dubbed the "Father of Reaganomics" and has recently gained popularity for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War, regularly contributes articles to Creators Syndicate, an independent distributor of comic strips and syndicated columns for daily newspapers.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   August 14th, 2007 3:44 pm ET

The handwriting is on the wall with this one, friends.

Republicans are beginning to unite behind Giuliani because they realize that not only is he the most qualified Republican candidate on the ballot, they also understand that he is their only chance to beat Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Rudy will soon have a unified Republican voter base behind him and he will also have a significant % of independent voters who respond well to his strong stance on national security and his moderate social values.

He is also capable of winning Democratic votes due to his moderate social values and this will ultimately lead to a fairly sound victory over Hillary, or Obama, in the general election.

Mike, NY NY   August 14th, 2007 3:19 pm ET

Rudy's #1 on my pole!

Will - Miami, Fl   August 14th, 2007 3:10 pm ET

Rudy is a dirt-bag. He'll never get the nomination. Our party will return to the right (true conservatism) and, in case you didn't know, Rudy's politics are in the other direction.

It's amazing to me that some pundits have quiped that Ron Paul is trying for the wrong party when, in fact, he is VERY conservative - nowhere near the left.

Rudy is a democrat that likes to yell "911! 911! I was there! Kill! 911! Oh, uh, I want to fund abortions with your hard-earned money!"…

Dan, Columbia MD   August 14th, 2007 3:09 pm ET

Good news… but not surprising.

Smith   August 14th, 2007 3:03 pm ET

Yay for Adolph Giuliani and Flip Romney! :/

Hairy Situation, NY NY   August 14th, 2007 3:03 pm ET

Has anyone noticed that Rudy stopped his comb-over just before announcing his candidacy?

Jeff, Little Rock Arkansas   August 14th, 2007 2:55 pm ET

JAHOGS
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Posted: 08/13 10:29a The only worthy candidate out there to vote for is RON PAUL!!! This guy is the most conservative and the only candidate that does not flip-flop on any issue. Go google Ron Paul or view some of his videos on youtube. This guy is amazing! Guys I have always voted for Democrat and always thought it was a party thing, but it's not. Ron Paul is the only candidate that believes in the Constitution and our civil liberties. If you don't know who he is, then please do some research on him. You owe it to yourself and our countries future. RON PAUL

David, Salinas, CA   August 14th, 2007 2:51 pm ET

Note that these polls were take before Giuliani said:

“I was at ground zero as often, if not more, than most of the workers … I was there working with them. I was exposed to exactly the same things they were exposed to. So in that sense, I’m one of them.”

Also note that the majority of those polls aren’t likely to be political junkies like me (and you, gentle reader), so they still think of him as America’s mayor and are blissfully unaware of his unpopular positions, personal scandals, mixed mayoral record, shady business partners, complete lack of foreign policy credentials and repellant personality.

Strategically it’s probably not a great idea for me to criticize Giuliani, since I’m a Democrat and I think he’d be the easiest Republican to beat, other than maybe John Cox.

TC Plainfield, IL   August 14th, 2007 2:47 pm ET

On September 10, 2001, Rudy Giuliani was the lame-duck mayor of NYC. On September 11, Rudy basically did what he was paid to do: lead his city. It is a shame that he has profited via his speaking engagements and his side-businesses on the events of September 11. Now, he wants to run for President based on the new image his handlers created in the days after 9/11. He may be nominated, but he will have a hard time winning the Presidency.

Rick, Baltimore, MD   August 14th, 2007 2:42 pm ET

Go Rudy!

Will Truman, NY NY   August 14th, 2007 2:29 pm ET

Romney? Rudy? Rudy? Romney? Uma? Oprah? Oprah? Uma?

Paul, New Orleans, LA   August 14th, 2007 2:23 pm ET

Who cares?…RON PAUL took rudy to the woodshed on foreign policy in one of the debates…Spread RON PAUL who actually wants sound fiscal responsibility and understands implications of meddling in other countries.

Frank Mosley   August 14th, 2007 2:12 pm ET

If Romney wins the Republican nomination; it will be one of first times where I will not vote Republican. The same holds true for Hillary.

Anastasia Beverhousen, NY NY   August 14th, 2007 1:58 pm ET

There's no such thing as a little Mamma Cass!

Ineeda Mann, LA, CA   August 14th, 2007 1:21 pm ET

Who Cares! I hate republicans!

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