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Matt -

I agree with you on one point about Karl Rove:“All he ever did was what he was hired to do.”

But you didn’t answer my question: Do you condone what Karl Rove did to Max Cleland?

Max has nowhere to hide when calling someone else a liar. That's why he no longer represents Georgia..

His biggest lies did not pass his lips, as puppet master his evil spawn have added the gloss of position to them. The big money machine got what it paid for in tax cuts, energy policy which included seizing Iraq’s oil, and the destruction of the American unionized worker. Who is left to stand for the little guy. Anyone who thinks the evil of this man and his administration ends in 2008 needs to wake up. Your freedoms have been permanently ended with the jack booted Supreme Court.

If you tell the lie often enough, it becomes the truth.

To "Tony from Alabama":

Are you seriously comparing Bush to Hitler? I'm pretty sure that most reasonable people would call that far-fetched at best.

To "Anonymous":

So what if I didn't mention FOX? I wasn't talking about FOX I was talking about CNN because David from Salinas (Which isn't exactly known for being balanced politically) feels the need to post one every single thread and might as well write the article since it always advocates CNN's feelings on the subject.

I also think it is interesting that everyone criticizes Rove for what he does. All he ever did was what he was hired to do. Win elections. Criticizing other candidates credibility is hardly deplorable, in fact it still happens today on both sides of the aisle. Rove went to work and accomplished what his employers asked of him, which the last time i checked was what people were supposed to do.

Max Cleland lost three limbs serving his country in Viet Nam. What has Karl Rove done for his country? He helped one of the worst presidents in our history get elected twice. He added some new chapters to the republican playbook. His first lesson: if your opponent served in combat, question his patriotism and denegrate his service.

I agree with Max!

I have been thinking and thinking of something that would justify my outrage at Karl Rove leaving the White House in anything other than handcuffs.

As Bush says, he is "the architect." He stole two Presidential elections for his buddy Bush.

I am not making this up. I am not reaching. It is fact.

Read "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast. It contains some of Karl Rove's missing emails so conveniently wiped off his harddrive. Tim Griffen, his protoge, was dispatching what are called "caging" lists to the RNC operatives. Rove stole hundreds of thousands of votes using "Caging", which is highly illegal and which they've tried to cover up.

What they would do is get a company called "Choice Point" to provide them with names and addresses of Democrats, mostly black or in the military in Iraq. They would write 1st class letters from the RNC to their addresses that they knew were no longer accurate.

When the letters would come back to them, they'd challenge the recipients voter registration, saying it wasn't a real person.

So therefore, when an soldier in Iraq would vote for John Kerry because he was fed up with the war, he would never know his vote had already been challenged and was meaningless.

The missing emails discuss caging and have actual names and addresses, thousands upon thousands of them, of black democratic voters, some even residing in homeless shelters.

They were sent accidentally by Tim Griffen to rnc.com, which is a spoof site of rnc.org, the real republican national committee address.

And this is just one way that Karl stole the vote for Bush. He also had republican contractors build voting machines to place in hispanic districts in new mexico where in a few districts nine out of ten hispanic voters picked "none of the above" for president.

And let's not even discuss provisional ballots. There's a reason Bush and Rove signed off on them. The Secretary of State can decide to use them or not. They challenged them left and right.

Karl Rove is a crook that uses divisiveness, lies, and fear to destroy the constitution and our democracy.

Joseph Georbols, Hilter's propaganda minister, once said, "The bigger the lie the more people believe it."

That is the cornerstone of Karl Rove's playbook. He would have done Hitler proud.

Everyone interested in how they stole the last two elections and how they'll try to steal the next one should read "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast. It's in the Library or Borders carries it.

I've started to write a comment about four times now – but nothing I write about Rove would pass the CNN moderators. There must be a word not four letters long that accurately describe him. I know – turd. Never mind the blossom, just turd.

Max Cleland was a decorated war hero, a multiple amputee. Rove smeared him.

Kerry was a decorated war hero. Rove smeared him.

McCain was a decorated war hero. Rove smeared him.

And Rove never served.

Ok. So, politics lacks civility. Look who is doing all the ad hominem attacks . . .look, CNN. And Mr. Schneider, pick up your paycheck at the DNC

Remember people, when you vote you are not just getting 'the guy who talks like me ' but also his advisors and intimates that have supported him. Takes a lot of thought I know, but really let's try to get THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB in the future.OK?

Why are liberal Democrats obsessed with Karl Rove?

What a crock there Matt. Celand left everything on the line. Bush never had the gutts to peak at that line. Rove has his Bushie trophy wife. A fitting payment for a poor immitation of Baghdad Bob. They will likely produes more substandard children without any concept or morals or ethics. Is that what you support? Newsmen telling the truth is not opinion. Cannot say the same for Tony Snowjob.

For Matt in CA, true a newsperson should not be confusing opinion with nes. I note you did not mention Fox, the great mother of lies. But when you present the facts in this country, with the total failure that this Administration was right from the day they stole the election from a better man that got more votes. And did so with a 1 vote majority that prevented a revote in certain Counties in Florida and then bused in goons from another State to storm an election place in Dade County to prevent a recount, any reasonably intelligenmt person could have seen the hand writing on the bathroom wall. The news is not opinion when the truth is told. The Bushiets started with no honesty added to it a total lack of integrity and went downhill from there in planning an unjustified war to steal 60B dollars of Iraq oil and bankrupt our treasury. Is that what you support? Celand left it all on the line, too bad that Dick and Bush never had the guts to even peak at that line from a distance.

There is a special place in hell for people like Karl Rove.

Some of the persons holding down the fort until he gets there are...Hitler, Mussolini, Franco.

Please Mr. Rove, when you get there save seats for Bush, Cheney, Tancredo, Limbaugh, Savage and Hannity.

I THINK IT IS INTERESTING THAT I QUESTIONED IF MAX CLELAND RECEIVED HIS WOUNDS ON THE BATTLE FIELD (he did NOT get a purple because he did not) OR PLAYING AROUND WITH A HAND GRANADE ...
YOU DECIDED NOT TO POST IT,,, ONLY ANTI ROVE POST ALLOWED ON CNN?????
PLEASE RESPOND

Matt from Chico, CA writes:
“Why doesn't CNN hire 'David from Salinas' to write for them? They clearly share his opinions and biases.”

Thanks for the compliment, Matt, but I’m certain CNN has far more qualified journalists.

I am curious as to which part of my above post you found biased. Max Cleland’s wounds and military decorations are a matter of public record, as is Karl Rove’s involvement in the ads comparing Cleland to our enemies. The only opinion I voiced was that Rove’s ads were dishonorable. Do you disagree?

Why doesn't CNN hire 'David from Salinas' to write for them? They clearly share his opinions and biases.
Posted By Matt, Chico, CA

I knew it was only a matter of time before a loyal drone posted a defense of Rove, and an implied criticism of Cleland. Matt from Chico apparently has no problem with a political operative with a habit of demeaning and degrading the service of decorated veterans: 2000, McCain; 2002, Cleland; 2004, Kerry. Anyone else see a pattern?

Karl Rove!What a man,he set the record for deferments in Vietnan.However,he attacks a MAN like Max Cleland.I wonder if he would tell us how it feels to being a nerd & then the biggest bastard in thw world!

I don't trust Rove. He says he is leaving due to family; which if true would be an honorable thing to do. I have to say though, I tend to believe what Cleland says. Rove cannot be trusted. I think his real goal here is to help mould another illiterate president into our government so as to manipulate and pursuade to further his own goals. I wish our country would take a look at what this administration has done and hold them accountable. Take a look at what Rove has done in his lifetime and see how he has always been the deciever and manipulator. Yes, he does get things accomplished, but not in an honorable way. His agenda has always been manipulation. I am frustrated that noone seems to care that they are turning our country upside down. Bush has no brain and it should have been obvious in the elections. But for some unknown reason, he got voted in twice. Personally, I have to wonder how corrupt voting was, since the administration has proven how corrupt they can be. Voters are going to really have to pay attention to what happens in 2008 so that we don't make another huge mistake like the past two elections. You cannot vote on a name that sounds familiar. I am watching ALL candidates, so that we can distance ourself from this past administration. We really need to get the BEST person into the white house, and not just vote along party lines as revenge or ideology. We need to wake up and listen and not prejudge.

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OBAMA NEEDS TRAINING-HOPE HE GO BACK TOT HE SENATE HE ABRELY HAVE AN EPSRENCE LESS THAN TWO YEARS IN THE SENATE.UR PHYSCHIC LADY COMMENT.

My reply to the comment about Rove "going out the back door". Oh how naive the American public is. Don't you see? Rove is now free to direct Bush's buddy Mitt Romney into the White House! Silly voters! Pay attention to history will you please?

Great line, which left the droning Blitzer briefly speechless.

Why doesn't CNN hire 'David from Salinas' to write for them? They clearly share his opinions and biases.

Rove, along with Bush and Chaney, should be tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Hundreds of thousands are dead due to their actions. Millions are now refugees and have lost everything. Tens of thousands have been maimed. They lied us into the war. I am so sick of hearing their excuses and their lies. It's time the administration was impeached and these criminals were put in prison.

Max Cleland is quite right. What else would you expect from a man whose grandfather helped Hitler run the Nazi party (http://www.unknownnews.org/06A08-A14d-412Cassandra.html)

Just as Bush's grandfather helped arm and fund Hitler (http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/1010-BushNazi.html)

No wonder the country has been heading in the wrong direction for the last few years.

"You know he's lying when his lips are moving." Yes, in my opinion, that sums up Karl Rove. Well put Senator Cleland! It just amazes me that there can be anyone left in America, or elsewhere for that matter, who would actually believe anything that comes out of Rove's mouth.

in my opinion Rove should not even be in the same room as Cleland. Former Senator Cleland isa hero and Rove is a top notch lier whom needs to be put in jail.

Thank you for your service to this country Max Cleland. If Neo conservatives like Rove don't appreciate, normal citizens like myself sure as heck do.

I am not American. I cannot vote.

Why is CNN keeping Mr Rove alive just four days before his ignonimous exit through the back door?

Cleland is correct about Rove if is lips are moving he is lying. The lessons to be learned is "THIS IS THE WORST OF WORST PRESIDENTS AND KARL ROVE HIS ADVISER WILL BE JUDGE THE SAME. WICKED DICKY CHENEY IS SO EVIL WHEN YOU LOOK AT HIM YOU SEE THE DEVIL HIMSELF.

Ann Chamberlain
Texan for change

The above story correctly states that Karl Rove and the Republican party ran ads comparing Max Cleland to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, and that Senator Cleland lost the ensuing election. It fails to mention that as a Captain in the U.S. Army Cleland also lost his right forearm and both legs in service to his country. Captain Cleland was the Battalion Signal Officer for the 2nd Battalion, 12th Cavalry Regiment, 1st Cavalry Division during the Battle of Khe Sahn. Cleland was awarded the Silver Star and the Bronze Star for valorous action in combat.

Readers who wonder why Karl Rove and his Republican propaganda machine are held in such high disregard need only look back at the disgraceful smear campaign in which they questioned the patriotism of an American hero.

"Rove/Cleland fued"?

Oh, you mean feud.

Well, at least Cleland was fair to Rove. It would have been totally over the top to accuse Rove of lying all the time. I'm glad Cleland showed restraint, stuck to the facts and said Rove only lies when his lips are moving.

What Will They Think of Next?
or Dick Cheney's Pacemaker needs batteries, not included.

Libby? signing statements, habius corpus, nukes in North Korea, torture, fear, clean air? Blackwater dirty, every child left behind. Ducttape your windows, Osama boo, Wolfowitz through. 9 fired attorneys, 1 mired attorney general. Special prosecutor? dis-union, dissolution, discontent. voter fraud? election fraud. no blacks allowed. Tim Griffen resigned, caging lists, Greg Palast, missing emails no longer. Orange alert, terror dry runs, 911 in Iraq, Iraq caused 911, huh?
Impeach them, Impeach them, Impeach them. Do not wait, have mercy, take time, listen, look around, Impeach them, Impeach them. Stop, what’s that sound?
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It’s democracy, run aground.

The Hole Truth

The man keeps digging but doesn't see, y'know that's just the thing that worries me.

Gonzo won't go he's in the know. Monica Goodling, FBI Director even his pre-decessor, they say he lies, he stinks, attracts flies.

But you know, Gonzo won't go, he's in the know. He'll steal the show, smirk and jab, maybe do some more blow.

"Don't you see, if they get me, they'll leave nothing be! They'll poke and prod Cheney and Bush will nod, Karl Rove will plant no more sods."

Yes, it is just that lame. Don't you dare say they're all the same, Gonzo isn't to blame. Maybe he's low man on the totem pole, firewall, wall flower at the ball, but don't worry, he's not that small.

We see you Bush and it's time to fall.

Stop, look, what's that sound?

It's democracy run aground.

Every body look what's going down, Alberto Gonzalez stole the town.

King George won't take off his crown.

It's not over it's just the start, soon ol' George won't need wiretaps to hear himself fart.

Impeach the bums they deserve the heat, Gonzo is only the first tasty treat.

Every body stop, look around, What's that sound?

Look everybody, people are talking can it be,

Karl Rove is gone, democracy has been found?

Obama 08.