Rove/Cleland feud still brewing.
(CNN) - The bad blood between Bush political adviser Karl Rove and former Democratic Senator Max Cleland hasn't eased over the years. On CNN's Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer, Cleland responded to an attack by Rove with one statement: "You know he's lying when his lips are moving."
The feud heated up during Cleland's 2002 reelection campaign, where Cleland blamed Rove for ads showing his face after Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Cleland lost the Georgia election to Republican Saxby Chambliss. In an interview last weekend, Rove accused Cleland of publicly supporting the President's bill to form the Department of Homeland Security as he worked against it. Cleland says he co-sponsored alternate legislation.
– CNN Late Edition's Jennifer Burch
I've started to write a comment about four times now – but nothing I write about Rove would pass the CNN moderators. There must be a word not four letters long that accurately describe him. I know – turd. Never mind the blossom, just turd.
Max Cleland was a decorated war hero, a multiple amputee. Rove smeared him.
Kerry was a decorated war hero. Rove smeared him.
McCain was a decorated war hero. Rove smeared him.
And Rove never served.
I have been thinking and thinking of something that would justify my outrage at Karl Rove leaving the White House in anything other than handcuffs.
As Bush says, he is "the architect." He stole two Presidential elections for his buddy Bush.
I am not making this up. I am not reaching. It is fact.
Read "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast. It contains some of Karl Rove's missing emails so conveniently wiped off his harddrive. Tim Griffen, his protoge, was dispatching what are called "caging" lists to the RNC operatives. Rove stole hundreds of thousands of votes using "Caging", which is highly illegal and which they've tried to cover up.
What they would do is get a company called "Choice Point" to provide them with names and addresses of Democrats, mostly black or in the military in Iraq. They would write 1st class letters from the RNC to their addresses that they knew were no longer accurate.
When the letters would come back to them, they'd challenge the recipients voter registration, saying it wasn't a real person.
So therefore, when an soldier in Iraq would vote for John Kerry because he was fed up with the war, he would never know his vote had already been challenged and was meaningless.
The missing emails discuss caging and have actual names and addresses, thousands upon thousands of them, of black democratic voters, some even residing in homeless shelters.
They were sent accidentally by Tim Griffen to rnc.com, which is a spoof site of rnc.org, the real republican national committee address.
And this is just one way that Karl stole the vote for Bush. He also had republican contractors build voting machines to place in hispanic districts in new mexico where in a few districts nine out of ten hispanic voters picked "none of the above" for president.
And let's not even discuss provisional ballots. There's a reason Bush and Rove signed off on them. The Secretary of State can decide to use them or not. They challenged them left and right.
Karl Rove is a crook that uses divisiveness, lies, and fear to destroy the constitution and our democracy.
Joseph Georbols, Hilter's propaganda minister, once said, "The bigger the lie the more people believe it."
That is the cornerstone of Karl Rove's playbook. He would have done Hitler proud.
Everyone interested in how they stole the last two elections and how they'll try to steal the next one should read "Armed Madhouse" by Greg Palast. It's in the Library or Borders carries it.
I agree with Max!
Max Cleland lost three limbs serving his country in Viet Nam. What has Karl Rove done for his country? He helped one of the worst presidents in our history get elected twice. He added some new chapters to the republican playbook. His first lesson: if your opponent served in combat, question his patriotism and denegrate his service.
To "Tony from Alabama":
Are you seriously comparing Bush to Hitler? I'm pretty sure that most reasonable people would call that far-fetched at best.
So what if I didn't mention FOX? I wasn't talking about FOX I was talking about CNN because David from Salinas (Which isn't exactly known for being balanced politically) feels the need to post one every single thread and might as well write the article since it always advocates CNN's feelings on the subject.
I also think it is interesting that everyone criticizes Rove for what he does. All he ever did was what he was hired to do. Win elections. Criticizing other candidates credibility is hardly deplorable, in fact it still happens today on both sides of the aisle. Rove went to work and accomplished what his employers asked of him, which the last time i checked was what people were supposed to do.
His biggest lies did not pass his lips, as puppet master his evil spawn have added the gloss of position to them. The big money machine got what it paid for in tax cuts, energy policy which included seizing Iraq’s oil, and the destruction of the American unionized worker. Who is left to stand for the little guy. Anyone who thinks the evil of this man and his administration ends in 2008 needs to wake up. Your freedoms have been permanently ended with the jack booted Supreme Court.
If you tell the lie often enough, it becomes the truth.
Max has nowhere to hide when calling someone else a liar. That's why he no longer represents Georgia..
I agree with you on one point about Karl Rove:“All he ever did was what he was hired to do.”
But you didn’t answer my question: Do you condone what Karl Rove did to Max Cleland?