Watch Sen. John Mccain answer a high school student's question about his age in New Hampshire on Tuesday.
PORTSMOUTH, New Hampshire (CNN) – Sen. John McCain’s visit to Concord High School proved to be more than your average guest speaker appearance Tuesday with the Republican presidential candidate giving and getting a dose of the campaign’s trademark “straight talk.”
During the question and answer session one student rose and asked a pointed question about McCain’s age: “If elected, you’d be older than Ronald Reagan, making you the oldest president. Do you ever worry that like you might die in office or get Alzheimer’s or some other disease that might affect your judgment?”
The Arizona senator chuckled slightly as the “oh my gods” filled the room. In a self-deprecating reference to his memory, McCain said his children have joked about their father “hiding his own Easter eggs,” but quickly added, that he was a “24-7” worker and would out campaign any of his rivals.
McCain then ended the exchange in his quintessential style: “Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.”
Full story: High schoolers pitch hardballs at McCain
– CNN Senior Political Producer Sasha Johnson
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The PC sequence of the letters is GLBT, and it's a "garnished lettuce / bacon / tomato" sandwich or salad, including any variety of garnish yet to be discovered by this alphabet soup of "differently sexed" children of the deity of your choice (or no deity at all).
I wonder what village raised that child (Sleaser)? It's one thing to ask questions of a candidate – it's another to simply insult them.
But I'm sure the parents are proud of their little "darling".
This was great!This gives me great hope for the future of our country. I wish the high schoolers would get a chance to question every candidate like this. Out of the mouths of babes comes questions grown-ups want to ask but won't due to fear or politeness.
This gives me great hope for these future leaders. These are the type of leaders we need-honest, not afraid to ask the hard questions, not afraid to do the right thing.
Tough questions are fine, that is what freedom of speech and democratic participation is all about. You'd never see Romney doing something like this.
But saying John McCain isn't a leader is direspectful. He has led others in the military and in congress all his life. This kid probably feels very smug and happy with himself but someone should remind him that its easy to feel brave when you have nothing to lose. Real bravery on the otherhand, is the kind McCain showed during his years in a prison camp in Vietnam.
“Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.” Excuse me Senator, that's not funny!
Nobody should think that's funny. That goes to show that McCain is a war addict; he can't seem to get enough of it, does he?
With him as president, we would never get out of Iraq before formally calling it a Vietnam War 2. Also, he would push for a draft eventually.
I'd be more likely to vote for the high school kid than Mr. McCain.
Mr. McCain deserves an apology from the impertinent schoolboy. His intolerant attitude reflects poorly on a budget-bloated educational system that has produced a new generation of functionally illiterate, left-winged sheep.
Why was the kid scolded, he asked a pertinent question and he spoke truthfully (of course he'll never get a job in corporate America doing this) It's nice to see a high school student engaged and concerned about the political future of this country.
Yeah, draft the little jerk and send him to the front lines to die, and same to that other kid who talked back. Wow, what incredible leadership we see displayed here: "Get off my lawn, you little Democrats!" I bet he'll have both those kids suspended from school for talking back to him.
I am not American. I cannot vote.
I generally take a broader view of the questions about morality, virility, and the global reach of the sanctity of certain presumed rights and community ethics, such as Mr McCain had to confront.
In the West, people assume too much. After principles will have become a lot more devastated, then, maybe, a global consensus might arise. But it will not be based on the Christian view of 'values' alone.
“You want to take away someone’s rights because you believe it’s wrong,” Sleaster followed up.
“I don’t put that interpretation on my position, but I understand yours,” McCain responded, seeming to enjoy the back and forth.
What kind of disrespectful answer is that? Who does he think he is kidding? I bet he won’t be going to any other high schools again, unless it’s a private religious school of course; he will expect to receive a better reception there. He can’t handle straight-talkers because he is full of it. If he would have a valid reason, other than religious, for his position, he would have followed with an explanation. Instead, he weaseled away with his weak answer.
He can't handle debating smart people who use facts for arguments not weakly based opinions. If he can't handle a High School student, how does he expect to fair against a debater like Clinton or Obama. He’s dead in the water people.
You know, you really have to give credit to these kids for having a passion or at the very least, a solid interest in the political process. I don't think kids are given enough credit by far.
Another thing, this struck me as inconsistent:
"[McCain is] opposed to any form of discrimination, but he supported the military’s current “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy and that he opposed gay marriage."
Ok, he thinks you shouldn't be discriminated against unless you are a member of the military or want equal marriage rights?
Also, I take this statement with a grain of salt: " [I] believe that the sanctity of marriage between man and woman is unique and should be preserved, and I understand the controversy that swirls around that issue, and that debate needs to be continued to be held, but I support that position,” McCain said.
If he believes in the sanctity of marriage, I wonder why he does not advocate the criminalization of adultery and divorce.
Per Greenwald: How can John McCain claim to believe that the law should recognize only "traditional marriages" while simultaneously demanding that the law recognize his own so-called "second marriage" - also known as "an adulterous relationship" under the precepts of "traditional marriage" (Mark 10:11 - "And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her").
The issue is not that McCain sinned in the past. It is that he argues now that the law ought to recognize only "the traditional definition of marriage" while simultaneously demanding that the law recognize and treat as equal his own "marriage," which is as much a deviation from the "traditional definition" as the same-sex marriages he opposes. How can someone with this "family" stand up in public and claim to support the "traditional definition of marriage"?
Hey Sleaster...Go back to your basement and your XBox kid. Maybe you can learn about life playing Halo 3 while snacking on Snickers and wishing girls liked you.
I think he's had his Macaca moment.
The kid was scolded by a school administrator? Shame on that school. Those kids should be allowed to speak their minds. Isn't that the point of asking questions at these events?
"“I came here looking to see a good leader, I don’t,” Sleaster said before leaving the microphone to some boos and gasps from the audience and an eventual scolding by a school administrator."
I think the young man had ever right to question McCain the way he did and respond in such a manor. This country is founded on the notion that we are free to say and think what is in our hearts and minds. Shame on the school Admin for taking such a negative response to a young mans intention to become in tune with what is taking place in his country. It's people like him who will after all take over this country.
stick a fork in him – what a waste of campaign funds that could be going toward med/ed/poverty, etc.!
I have to agree with the kid, and wish someone would scold the administrator who apparently feels students shouldn't be honest in their involvement in the political process.
Yes...these are the same kids that can't find Iraq on a map or name the leaders of France, England, Germany, North Korea, or Iran. Thank god they can get under the skin of a presidential candidate. I'm sure this kid is now "high-fiving" his friend and laughing hard at his wit. Hit the books kid and maybe you can name all fifty states someday. Of course you can always go to work at WalMart (no offense to the WalMart employees)
Sounds like McCain should stay out the the heat in the kitchen. He's really a hot-head. Sorry about his life as a POW in Nam but he sounds too much like Bush to me.
God forbid he be candid and fun with a group of high school kids rather than run everything he says through 5 campaign monitors to make sure everything he says is entirely PC.
McCain and Obama at least don't memorize cue cards like a Clinton.
A high schooler who know is knowledgeable and concerned about the world and the future – and he can't even vote – we should be happy.
Everyone knows 71 is the new 61. What's the big deal?
The question about gay marriage and all that was perfectly okay, but I got a feeling that the kid had something of a know-it-all, self-righteous attitude. Asking tough questions is welcome, but it should be done in a manner that is not disrespectful and dismissive. A lot of 16-year-olds don't understand this yet.
The republican party needs to wake up. Is this the best man they can come up with? A man who is intolerate, ignorant and a homophobe. As a proud democrat I think McCain is the perfect example of what the Republican party stands for. Ignorance!! Congrats to the sophomore for having the courage to speak out, he speaks more for what America should stand for than McCain.
Makes me proud to be a CHS graduate.
Class o' 1995
look, both Sen. McCain and the high-school kid have the same rights as the Constitution allows. if the kid feels that Sen McCain is incorrect, let him vote against him for President; that's one of the best parts of this country.
as far as the draft bit, it was sarcasm. recognize it and move on.
as far as the leader bit, at least McCain tells you his position. most candidates do not.
Wow – it saddens me to see many of you applauding this disrespectful teenager who insulted John McCain – war veteran and a man who, appears, to live by his convictions.
There is NOTHING wrong with asking tough questions. There is MUCH wrong with a punk teenager throwing out an insult "I came here looking to see a good leader, I don't". This kid probably thinks a "good leader" has Xbox Skillz and hangs with Tony Hawk or other X-game celebs.
Those that applaud this behavior are as much of the problem as this kid.
Those kids are great! Good for them, they understand democracy better than the knuckle draggers who support a guy like McCain.
Oh Faith, your reaction to this individuals comments sadden me. We actually have a young person here who is taking part in the political process and asking a serious presidential candidate questions that are relevant to millions of Americans. He should be commended, not scolded.
I seem to be confused as to how the boy can be called "intolerant" or "illiterate".
Whoa...way to go Mr. Sleaster! You're my new hero!!! Thanks for standing up to this buffoon...too bad he'll just laugh it off as a comment from another "little jerk". But we'll all be the ones to laugh last when McCain loses the primary and has no place to go but back under the rock from where he originally crawled.
While I understand why the school pulled the kid aside for being a smart aleck (it's hardly a free-speech zone in a public school), I have to applaud the kid for speaking his mind. He didn't swear, he didn't threaten McCain, he just straight out said what he was thinking. In the "conform or else" environment that our public schools have become, seeing that there are still kids who are willing to stick their necks out is a great thing.
Yup, sounds like typical whiny "I'm smarter than everyone else" high school kid. The kind that thinks that they have seen so much in their tortured 15 years of life in the NH suburbs. Dollars to donuts, he was planning to say that sound bite from the beginning. Go back to your myspace page young 'un. I'm sure that you'll be considered a martyr because you got one whole hour of detention. Ohh, the misery, the inhumane treatment. Where's Amnesty International when you need them?
Bravo Senator McCain!
Very appropriate handling of a young man who has quite a bit of growing up to do. I wonder if the boy's parents or parent have the intellectual capacity, the maturity and the class to know the behavior is inapproriate.
Impertinent – yes. Unfortunately, the definition of the word is lost on most school children and parents. Too busy watching "American Idol" and defending Micheal Vick's "rights". And too many single parent families absent a real man to model and define behavior.
Not surprising, but certainly saddening.
That shows how disrespectful these kids are to their elders. McCain for all his faults is still a Senator in the United States senate.
Plus, wth was the Senator's campaign manager thinking doing a Q&A with high school students. Should have seen this coming.
There is nothing wrong with asking the hard questions and the kids should be encouraged to do so. The second child is a prime example of a child without any respect for a man of McCain's position. I'm not saying that I agree one way or the other w/McCain but I do repsect his accomplishments and aspirations. That child should get another class in humility and respect. Shame on him.
I had to laugh at the Sleaser kid when I read his question and his response to McCain. Sleaser asked what he (McCain) would do for LGBT rights. To me, it seems like McCain can answer it however he wants, which I did like his answer...apparently Sleaser did not. If that was the case Sleaser should've said, "What would you do for LGBT rights? I will give you my answer, the answer I want to hear and then you have to agree with me." If you don't like other people's opinion on something...DON'T ASK.
It's children like these that make me glad I went to private school.
I think it is amazing even a high schooler can see through the obvious bigotry of neocons, "i support everybody, but not really"....I am sure he was trying to impress his friends, but McCain's real personality shows, and the fact that he might even be as disconnected as GW, which would be quite an accomplishment....
Young people have no wisdom.
What is it about the questions and insolence of this undisciplined hoard that many of you seem to admire?
Do you suffer such a lack of self respect that you seek the counsel of children?
This William Sleaster kid gives me hope for our nation's youth. As far as I'm concerned, the school administrator who scolded a student for exercising his right to free speech should be fired – why is it more important that a candidate feel comfortable than a U.S. citizen feel that his voice is being heard? Since when has it become a punishable act to put a presidential candidate on the spot? Have we all forgotten that a campaign is one long job interview and WE are the boss?
I think the question about Gay and Lesbians is what the future holds for republicans who would like to continue hating and discriminating. Our country has made great strides in trying to end discrimination, unfortuanately the old white men running for office would like to continue it. People especially kids are sick of the devisive politics. The only way most kids discriminate now is from learning it from their parents. I wonder how McCain's kids feel about gay people.
Whatever happen to freedom of speech. He got scolded by a school administer for saying what he believes in. Where is the outrage!
I thought that was great on both sides. As a liberal, for a time McCain was the only Republican I would have ever considered voting for. It wasn't because I agreed with all his views but instead I at least knew where he stood on things. He didn't mince his words. In the early run of his current campaign, he started pandering. It's good to see him shooting his mouth off again if he sees fit.
As for the kids, there is nothing wrong with standing up to power. McCain deserves respect for what he's done in his life (moreso than most any other Republican in Washington), yes, but I'd much rather see teens who are rebellious and somewhat informed than see many of their parents, who were complacent and stupid enough to elect Bush twice.
I'm so proud of William Sleaster! It's nice to see that teenagers are concerned about everyone having the same rights. When will the rest of the US understand that everyone deserves the same rights, regardless.
im his brother and our family approves of his freedom of speech.
I thought it was disrespectful to attempt to disparage John Kerry's exemplary service in Vietnam by some vague conservative-created group "swift-boat veteran for justice" group, as soon as GW stole the election, the fact that there were no facts was irrelevant, just like Iraq, but the mud-slinging republicans didn't mind it then....how ironic now that it is disrespectful when it is a republican running...and hypocritical....how about "high schoolers for truth"!!!
This is typical John McCain. I met Sen. McCain while in college and my friends and I got a group picture with him. He called us "jerks" as we were all herding to get into the picture with him. It is just his style; straight talk. Comments like these make him seem like more of a real person, not the plastic, canned comments and gestures that come from other candidates. This man is smart and has experience. He is the right man to run this country. Also, he is joking. I do not believe that he actually was calling my friends and this high schooler a jerk in any derogatory fashion.
LGBT? What the heck are these kids talking about?
Anyway, McCain took the questions well, and he's right, those kids are little jerks. just joking...
I can't believe that kid got scolded by a school admin for speaking the truth. Why are evilgelicals repubs so threatened with two grown men/women getting married? The divorce rate is so high in the US that marriage isn't so sacred anymore so why even care?
Yes we love that 'little darling' and the village that raised him is of gypsies and goldfish. (America)
Sister Sleaster
McCain told sophomore William Sleaster that he was opposed to any form of discrimination, but he supported the military’s current “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy and that he opposed gay marriage.
Don't ask to tell IS didcrimination and so is not allowing gay marriage.
No matter how you feel about the issue, not allowing someone to do the samethings eveyone else is able to do is called discrimination.
Also I commend the students for there questions. Maybe all debate questions should come from Highschooler b/c they are clarely not afraid to ask some question that their parents her.
Double kudos the the student that said McCain is not a leader. Stand for something or fall for anything. A whole lot of people fell for what Bush was slinging, maybe the next generation will be better.
come on whats the big deal with joking that someones draftrd and calling him a little jerk i bet the kid thought it was funny and he is a very old man tring to connect to students in high school theres nothing wrong with joking and the kid who said he didn't see a leader should not have been scolded he should be allowed to voice his views and even though i don't agree with the kid thats his right to say as a america and i'm sure McCain told the administrator so after the speech say what you want about his beleifs but McCain is a great america that believes in freedom
“Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.”
This guy can't take the heat from a bunch of high school kids gracefully, and he's trying to run for president???
When are people going to realize that this guy is just GWB with military experience. Personally, I'd prefer an idiot to an idiot with a gun.
To Faith, re "Mr. McCain deserves an apology from the impertinent schoolboy. His intolerant attitude reflects poorly on a budget-bloated educational system that has produced a new generation of functionally illiterate, left-winged sheep." Um, WHAT?
1. How does challenging the senator's policy position and then expressing his opinion (which he has the right to do) make him intolerant?
2. Please explain how a high school student who is unafraid to express his beliefs and challenge a powerful politician, one whose party he probably does not support, reflect poorly on our education system? Moreover, how does that show him to be "functionally illiterate?"
3. Are left-winged sheep doomed to fly in counter-clockwise circles their entire lives? Seriously, though, left-winged sheep? If any group could be qualified as sheep, it's those that continue to drink the Kool-Aid and support the current administration.
What a geezer thing to say as a rebuttal to an age question!
Gee, the only "little jerk" I read in this ticker is McCain himself ... very respectful ADULT, isn't he?
It's refreshing to see our kids actually ask questions the supposed "adults" are afraid to. And when the kid speaks his mind – you know, practicing that little thing called "free speech" – what happens? He gets reprimanded. Oh, the beauty of hypocrisy. Give that kid Sleaster a medal – give his parents one too.
Wow, great stuff. Mad respect to McCain.. I don't agree with most of his postitions but I respect him as a stand up man not afraid to answer tough questions with honesty. A mad respect to these High School students for be involved and concerned. it's easy to criticize the smart mouth but I'd rather hear that then the silence of most kids his age. This is American politics at it's best.
"Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.”
Especially coming from someone like McCain who parades their military career on their shoulder, this comment is absoutely absurd on so many levels... drafting as punishment, being forced to go to war, slinging mud at a high school kid by calling him a 'little jerk'... wow!
In a way I was sad and encouraged by this article. It's sad that the only person who can ask real questions about our future is a high school student but at the same time it's very encouraging for our future.
If I had come there looking for a presidential role model and I got the remarks that McCain said, yeah I'd be disappointed too. The remarks McCain made were just downright ignorant.
Can I vote for Sleaster ?
McCain said he didn't support discrimination yet he supports "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and was against marriage for the gay community. I would say those two stands discriminate against the gay community. I appreciate the student speaking out. It is time we call on those in public office to stand for equality for all Americans including the gay community.
The youth of America are looking for a genuine political leader who doesn't give an automatic answer to an honest question. I respect McCain's belief that gay marriage is wrong. But shouldn't he respect the idea that denying equal rights for any group is not only wrong, but also illegal?
"Straight talk" indeed.
There's a difference between asking hard questions and being insulting. The question about the senator's age, though phrased a little tactlessly, was legitimate (though I notice McCain didn't directly answer it). The comment that McCain's not a leader wasn't a question, it was just an insult. Politics aside, the school was right to insist that the student remain civil toward its guest speaker, and he crossed the line.
I commend the kid for using his right to free speech. Tis certainly something a lot of adults have forgotten how to do in our "politically correct" pile of crap. Call a spade a spade and get on with it.
The administrator who scolded that kid shoudl be scolded himself for violating the kids freedom of speech.
The kid may not get a job in YOUR corporation, but I would never hire a yes man, and this kid sounds like he is far from that.
Like so many teenagers today, the ones from Concord H.S. are raised lacking knowledge in basic moral and cultural standard. Thus, they lack the foundation to allow them to establish sound judgements on issues of today. They are only capable of repeating what the latest politically-correct / ultra liberals are screaming about on TV. It is scary to think these teenagers are going to run this country in the future.
We can say anything we want in this country but, if I was the father of that little kid I would teach him a lesson for a whole month on the history of one of the greatest leaders in our country and that is Senator McCain. Let's put that kid in a prison for five years in Vietnam so we can teach him how to respect people. That shows you one thing that kid was left behind..
What consenting adults do in their own bedrooms should be no concern of the government, but Sleaster's suggestion that these individuals should have additional rights and privileges because of their disfunctional behavior was wrong-headed. Marriage is a foundation of every healthy society and should continue to be promoted. "LGBT" behavior has been generally considered disfunctional, and destructive of good order in every society. I wish McCain would have spoken more plainly against the degeneration of morality so apparent in this young man's attitude and questions.
I agree that the Sophmore's remark was a little... well..."Sophmoric" and more of an insult than an opinion. However, I am perplexed that anyone would hold this (presumed) 15 year-old to such a high standard for his comment while totally overlooking the rude and inappropriate comment of a (supposedly) experienced statesman and leader.
I agree with the young man. What kind of leader claims to NOT support any form of discrimination and then in the same breath states he does indeed support some kinds of discrimination? Good call, young man. If only adults would stand up to such cowardly double talk, this country might not be in the mess it is today. We could finally elect a President worthy of respect. Unfortunately, I do not see many adults demanding honesty or integrity from candidates any time soon. This young man shows there is hope for the next generation at least.
Some of these posts amaze me.... yes the questions are great, yes all candidates should do it, and yes its democracy in action.... but whatever happened to respect? Schools aren't just for teaching ABC's and 123's. I'm a democrat and even I can see that Senator McCain was being sarcastic and trying to be funny, that student was simply disrespectful, not for the question, but for the attitude and editorial comments.
Despite my status as an independent voter, I always held McCain as a good example of what my ideal Republican candidate would be if I ever voted for one.
Then he went and argued with a bunch of high school kids. I've lost a little bit of respect for him after seeing this article. You would think that someone who's been a POW and had decades of political experience would have the restraint to respond to snippy questions with class and dignity, not the same level of contempt shown by some of the students.
I also find it funny that people in this section are so quick to blame the smug, righteous student attitudes on a poorly functioning educational system, which coincidentally, is administered by the same government McCain is a part of. Maybe that's the problem: jaded, bitter Traditionalists and Baby Boomers with no remaining sense of dreams and ideals provide K-12 students a disjointed, unequal, and non-diverse education, then criticize these kids when they don't like what they see.
Sleaster is a hero! I sincerely hope that the millions of people like Sleaster continue to fight the good fight until equal rights are truly equal. There is no room for the discrimination that Sen. McCain endoreses in a "true" leader.
John McCain lacks the maturity and judgement required to lead any country...I would NEVER vote for him...this article simply reinforces my opinion.
Bubba of GA and Joe of FL clearly lack a sense of humor. I often joke with my father about his age or balding head. "Little jerk" is just one of the terms he jokingly uses following such a comment! By responding in this manner my dad shows me the comment was received as a joke and that there are no hard feelings!
I applaud CAPT McCain for putting himself in front of an auditorium full of high school students with few to no parameters governing discussion/questions. A feat many school administrators wouldn't attempt!
I'm with Sleaster on this one. People should be able to get married to whomever they please, no matter the sexual orientation of that person. It saddens me that a grown man, a senator, doesn't see the connection between this issue, and civil rights. Does "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" mean anything to this man?
"of functionally illiterate, left-winged sheep"
yes, because someone with the intestinal fortitude to stand up in front of a crowd of people and challenge authority is a sheep. You know how retarded it sounds when you spout [...] junk, right? Granted, he should apologize to McCain (whose military and political service deserve respect), but he's certainly in an illiterate sheep.
Good work son! It's frustrating to hear politicians say two contrasting things in the same sentence. "I'm against discrimination but for 'don't ask don't tell' and oppose gay marriage." Adults are too polite to call them out on their lies, so it's great to see these kids cut straight to the point. There should never be scolding for speaking your own mind! Isn't that what we're in a war trying to protect?
And come on, McCain doesn't know what LGBT stands for? That's pathetic.
We as a nation should do more to encourage our students and children to ask tough questions of our potential future leaders. The attitude of the student, well, that's just typical of teenagers today. The beef of the student's questions are what really matter. How and where do you stand? McCain answered as I would have expected; ignorantly!
"LGBT" is a non-issue. It's a personal choice. The federal government shouldn't be involved.
That little snotty kid owes the senator an apology. The federal government has not taken rights away from any LGBT. States may not grant marriage licenses and health care programs may not pay for the cost of a gender switch, but that has nothing to do with the federal government.
To James in Arizona. That "little darling" is what America needs more people put out there fighting for the same rights as you "little straight people". How many single parented, divorced straight people do we have in this world that cant take care of their own children because they cant handle a loving marriage, but lets not give lesbians, gays the right to adopt kids and provide loving homes! You sir are blind.
Wow. Those kids had balls! The GBLTKQZ-whatever chump was obviously looking to stir some trouble. And McCain is too old a fossil to be president. A funny, slightly sad, but ultimately irrelevant campaign moment, magnified like no one else does by CNN. Thanks for the minutae!
“'Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.' Excuse me Senator, that's not funny!"
umm...yes, it is. shows he has an actual handle on how others perceive him – quite unlike nearly all other candidates. shows how the "too-old-to-be-president" can obviously think quickly on his feet and respond accordingly to the audience presented before him...
I was at this rally.
I am a senior at concord high school.
I believe at the William Sleaster should have not said this last statement.
He however is allowed to have is own thought and opinions.
The correct quote that william sleaster said was “I came here looking to see a good leader, I didn't find one."
I believe that Sen. John McCain will do a wonderful job was President.
I disagree with his statement that marriage should be with a man and woman only.
I believe that marriage should be allowed between a man and woman but should also include a man and man or a woman and woman. Love is love. People should be allowed to marry and spend there life with who they love.
My favorite teacher is a Lesbian and she and her partner just had there 2nd child. I fully support them starting and raising there family.
I find it amusing that the comments are either strongly in support of the kid...or strongly against. I personally think the kid was out of line. But he is a kid and I can accept that.
Kudos to Sleaster for giving the 'tude right back to McCrazy. There will always be support for right wing totalitarianism in this country, which is why you see people applauding McCrazy for calling the kid a "little jerk" and then calling fo him to be drafted into the Iraq quagmire, so I'm glad the kid turned it around and gave it right back. It's good to see kids standing up to right wing hypocracy.
I wonder if more candidates will be asked if they know what LGBT means. It's not exactly a new buzzword among the younger demographic. It's been around for some time.
I must admit I got a good laugh reading some of these posts. If Sleaster was my kid I'd be proud of him for speaking his mind even if I don't agree with his views. If he does not consider McCain a good leader it is his right to say so. Others may not agree and that is their right as well.
Respect is not appointed. It is earned. I don't think McCain calling another kid a jerk is very respectful, even if it was a joke. McCain has had many situations in the past where is mouth has gotten him in trouble. It is possible that some people view these situations as a lack of character, something needed to be a good leader.
McCain is a good man and a good senator. I don't believe he would make a good leader for this country. He is too volitile.
To fully appreciate McCain's views on war, it should be remembered he, himself, served and was even a prisoner of war for many years. He's an incredible man for having survived and I respect his views on that subject to no end. I may disagree with his views on other matters but, for his view on war and sacrifice, I do not believe there is a better candidate.
McCains response "Your Drafted" was obviously intended to be humorous, and it is normal for people to make light of very serious matters (read any psychology book). "Springtime for Hitler" anyone? C'mon...
Second, I am glad the student expressed his opinions, however his rude comment at the end was uncalled for an simply shows disrespect. A highschool student is not on equal footing with an adult who has adult responsibilities, and he should conduct himself as such. Not by submission, but by being respectful in his commentary. Would he have spoken to his parents/grandparents in this way? I certainly hope not.
sanctity
c.1394, from O.Fr. sanctité, from L. sanctitatem (nom. sanctitas) "holiness, sacredness," from sanctus "holy".
What ever happened to the separation of Church and State? I'd like to hear a politician come up with a argument against Gay marriage that didn't involve God or the Bible.
Of course McCain is a smart guy knows that supporting gay marriage would be the death of him amongst the hillbilly Republican base, so of course he gave the only answer he could.
However I agree with the kid. McCain isn't leading. He's not promoting change or fixing what is wrong with the U.S., he is following his base – and no, that is not a good leader.
Kudos William.
McCain handled himself just fine. Teenagers like Sleater tend to be liberal. Many people become more conservative as they get older. It is also possible that Sleater is gay, which would explain his taking McCain's position personally. McCain's best trait is that he stands for something and stands firm, a claim which Romney can't credibly make. As for Sleater, he needs Democrat Kucinich to demand equal time at his high school in order to hear what he wants.
i haven't heard an answer to Sleaster's follow-up question: “You want to take away someone’s rights because you believe it’s wrong?” what McCain did was deflect the question. i guess any highschooler knows that by now. i am not sure about the grownups.
An insult is a personal attack not relevant to the debate - such as, for example, "you little jerk."
"I came here to see a leader and I don't see one" is a valid evaluation of the questioned political candidate's opinion on Don't Ask, Don't Tell and on same-sex marriage.
WHy was the student scolded?
Faith from LV,
I find it funny that you refer to the boys attitude as "intolerant" since it was he who was upset at McCains intolerant attitude toward GLBT rights.
So you are apparently upset that people don't tolerate the intolerant!
Yes, standing up for what you believe in: even if it's against a senior US senator...is certainly sheepish....LOL.
Unfortunatly this young man's expectations are way too high. Neither party has a leader headed to the White House and we will just have to vote for the politician who will do the least amount of damage
If McCain can't effectively take on some high school kids, what makes anyone think he would be fit to be President of the United States and take on forces like "al-Quieda"? Even more proof that Mr. McCain's campiagn is finished!
Why is everyone getting down on this kid for speaking up? He didn't say McCain wasn't a leader, he said McCain wasn't a GOOD one, which I would have to agree with. And if that's his opinion, he has every right to express it. Choosing and questioning a leader isn't about being polite, it's about getting to the facts and expressing what you are looking for. And for the person who made a comment about what this kids parents thought, I would be VERY proud of my little "darling" as you put it, if it had been my child!
The kid who said he was looking for a good leader was full of it. He was just trying to look cool by insulting someone famous in front of the entire school. But there wasn't anything cool about his actions; in fact, they were pathetic and rude.
Political discourse isn't about being snarly and getting in the last word. Will someone at that school please teach him?
Why was the kid scolded? Wow, you are all so blinded by your hate for republicans that you can't see anything. He was scoled because he is in high school and does not have the life experience or knowledge to disrespect someone who has been through a lot. Just as anyone should be scolded for disrespecting a parent or a grandparent. You can have your views, and you should be allowed to express them, but you should not be able to show up someone like that just to make yourself feel important.
And as for McCain being a war addict, I am sure he loves war. It reminds him of his time in a POW camp, I mean who wouldn't want everyone to experience that.
I personally think that people should treat this exchange with a little more light-heartedness, and I also think that candidates should have more respect for my generation in general. I think McCain does, because he's been on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart lots of times.
This also reminds me of when a state senator came to my school and jokingly said to me, "you look like a pothead." I put that in my yearbook ad-lib.
John McCain is the funniest candidate we've had since Bob Dole. Come on, America, back a candidate with guts and honesty.
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." -Abraham Lincoln.
The same argument can be used regarding gay marriage.
To the scolded teen: He was brave, that one.
"I may not agree with what you say, but to your death I will defend your right to say it." -Voltaire
So McCain can call one student a "little jerk" (?!?!?!?), but another student can't stand up and give his honest opinion? Damn. And I thought this was America. Shame on the school admin who scolded that kid.
the really disturbing part about this is the fact that McCain is probably right about that kid getting drafted. Cheney is beating the Iran war drums... it's only a matter of time.
God have mercy on us all. Bush supports – i hope you're happy.
Some of you people crack me up. The way you pick apart comments to fit your own views is amazing. Are you sure you folks aren't politicians? I for one appreciate the "straight-talk" that the Senator seeks out on the campaign trail. I don't like when people say he's not a leader. The man is a powerful US senator and a decorated Navy POW. He deserves respect for the position he is in whether or not you like the person filling it.
Oh joy! Another "enlightened" candidate for president. More power to the high school student who was just practicing free speech and had the guts to pose a tough question to a candidate. If a presidential candidate isn't familiar with the LBGT community...shame on him!!!!
Sen. McCain's record in office and the military outshines all his rivals. If this little heckler is the future of our great country, we are screwed.
Now I know for certain where the senator stands on the possibility of another draft!
McCain is against any form of discrimination, but tells same sex couples they can't marry. huh?
I think the student was absolutely right. The question posed was what would McCain do for LGBT rights. Instead of clarifying which rights the student was talkinga bout he went straight to the heavy hitting issues. He opposes discrimination, supports the military, "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, and opposes gay marraige. He even clarifies the sanctity of marraige between man and woman.
But the truth is that while McCain says he opposes all forms of discriminating he himself is discriminating in these matters. He has turned the issues of Gay Marraige into a moral and ethical debate as opposed to the legality of how that union is recognized by the government.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of the LGBT lifestyles but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't still have the right to benefit from a similar union with the person that they love and have devoted their life too. People are going way out of there way to make this an issue of re-defining marraige when the truth is we are talking about LGBT couples having the same rights as heterosexual people. Government benefits should not be based off of sexuality. THAT is discrimination and William Sleaster was right for pointing it out. I normally vote republican but my vote is definitely not swinging towards McCain.
Pixie, You Talk about gay mairrage with the republicans but you can't tell me the ONE democrat who supports it.
I don't think Sleasters comment was disrespectful in any way> This is what is wrong with our country, the kid spoke up and voiced his opinion and now people want to treat him like he did something wrong.
The school was wrong to "scold him", he had every right to his opinion. Oh and to the person who responded that McCain has been a good leader... That too is an opinion and you are entitled to it, so don't you dare challenge Sleaster on his opinion.
If I was McCain, I would drop-kick that little brat. Good thing McCain responded in a classy way. Just because you disagree with someone politically does not make it correct to insult them, as that punk did.
Scolding by a school administrator?,
That administrator should get e-mails from us, This go right to the heart of why John Mccain is down in the polls
It's nice they were able to have some back and forth – too bad some bad apple kid had to throw grenades to make himself feel better.
As far as discrimination goes, we all do it. Have you ever hired someone based on their qualifications? I discriminate against ignorant people!
These children need to learn respect for others and impulse control. They both deserve to be put in their places. See what our "anything goes" culture hath brought? I fear for the future.
The IDEA behind this event is great – give our younger generation of future decision makers a chance to interact with today's top political leaders. Unfortunately, the event comes away with a negative light because a vast majority of teenagers in this country are not raised with any morals or resepct. The questions asked by the kids mentioned in the article were clearly meant to insult McCain rather than express an opinion or concern. The LGBT student might have asked an appropriate question, but his reaction to McCain's response showed he is only an immature, close minded teenager. You can ask a question without insulting someone, just like you can respect someone even if you don't agree with their opinions.
I think McCain has something going on besides anger issues by the way he answered! He's made other jokes about the war that make me wonder.
Thank goodness someone is asking those questions!
I could never see McCain on the world stage.
Yay William Sleaster! He was 1000% correct and had every right to say what hes aid. School administrators should be ASHAMED to "scold" a citizen for doing what is EVERY American's job... speaking the truth.
The risk of insult is the price of clarity. William Sleaster risked insult to gain a clear answer. Good for him. He should not be scolded or admonished, but commended for his boldness.
I side with the teen..
He asked a simple and logical question about the senator.. his age and future.
In return.. he got called a "little jerk" and told he would get drafted.
Thats not a leader.. thats a poser. A leader dosen't respond to questions with insults.
Guess what.. we don't need another senior citizen as president.
Does anyone under the age of 35 care that he was in vietnam and was in a prison camp? No.. not at all.. that just means he can take a beating.. not that he can lead a country.
Stop electing these old geezers.. we need new blood and a new respect.. Seniors that are stuck in the past such as McCain are on the outs.. why cripple our nation with old ideas.. time for a fresh outlook.
DISCIPLINE IS ONE THING THIS TEENAGER SEEMS TO LACK OF. GOOD FOR HIM TO BE HONEST TO THAT DEGREE. HOWEVER IF HE IS TO WORRIED THAT A CANDIDATE WILL NOT MAKE IT BECAUSE OF AGE OR HEALTH. THIS BOY SHOULD SUBMIT A WRITTEN COMMENT ADDRESSED TO THE SENATOR. IT SEEMS THAT THIS KID WANTS TO BE THE MAN. WELL YOUNG MAN. BEFORE YOU BECOME THE MAN. LEARN TO RESPECT HAVE SOME DISCIPLINE, AND IF YOU EVER GET TO SERVE YOUR COUNTRY IN THE ARMED FORCES.DON'T DISRESPECT YOUR SUPERIORS.
I actually once sent $$$ to this man, I'm now ashamed to admit. It's terrific he's now hopelessly behind in the polls. Intransigent, mis-guided and it would seem intolerant and impatient. Bye Mr. McCain, and this was a shameful presentation before our nation's youth.
He was JOKING when he said the draft and little jerk commment. Get a sense of humor. As soon as any article is posted that is either from a democrat or republican I always wait for the other side of the aisle to pounce on it and act shocked and outraged by it. It's called a sense of humor go develop one.
If this happened to Billary you Clintonista's would be screaming that the kid was a plant from the "vast right-wing conpiracy" or that the kid was "afraid of a strong woman".
McCain handled it well and also showed a sense of humor, no big freakin' deal.
I don't see any fault on the part of Mr. Sleaster. Afer all, he does have that right to stand up and say what he feels, and what he is thinking. This is what America was based upon, and if some folks don't like it, too bad. I come across opinions I don't care for daily....however, I am not about to stifle them.
I applaud Mr. Sleaster for his honesty, something that more of today's kids would do good to exhibit.
Ah, high school kids asking the tough questions so the media doesn't have to. The kids deserve major props for being stronger Americans than those weak-kneed school administrators who are afraid to be critical and care more about the prestige of the school than actually teaching the kids to ask questions.
This is what makes McCain an interesting candidate. He represents core Republican values and isn't afraid to have fun with the high school kids either.
"You're drafted" – very funny when used in a situation where there is absolutely no chance that he actually meant it. Playing off the image that all Republicans are war mongers – classic!
He doesn't have a chance of taking the Republican nomination anyway, so this is a good read but really not that important is it?
Nice answer, you big jerk.
Way to get our high school involved in politics.
Why would the school administrator scold this kid for asking a tough legitimate question? If you want young people engaged in the political dialogue then you can't admonish them for asking the tough questions that the media won't
I am happy to note that the high schoolers were not selected on the basis of their political affiliations. If Bush's "so called" town hall mmetings were allowed in such fashions, he would have had so many "macacaa" moments.
For a candidate not to know what the "LGBT" is is just plain strange, regardless of his views. The kid was on the right track and his heckling deserved. Straight couples don't respect the supposed "sanctity" of marriage anyway. I wish that when a politician spouts out the same party line, someone would counter with something about Las Vegas drive-thru weddings. This is America; there's no sanctity in anything.
Good for that kid,I hope he grows up to be a senator himself.As for you detractors,the ensuing depression that you war-mongers have brought us will weigh most heavily on you and your kind.Get ready to be really poor.
"McCain told sophomore William Sleaster that he was opposed to any form of discrimination, but he supported the military’s current “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy and that he opposed gay marriage."
Opposed to any form of discrimination... except for those forms of discrimination. I think Sleaster was dead on, the above are not the words of a leader. Banning gay marriage IS discrimination. So is the don't ask don't tell policy.
That kid has MAJOR guts for calling McCain on his BS.
McCain can't handle questioners who don't fawn all over him. Tese are the type of questions candidates should be asked – not the pat, routine questions. Also, if he can't control his temper, I sure don't want him anywhere near the White House. Way to go young people.
McCain needs to just go home! voting for him or having him in office would be like Bush never left....GO HOME MCCAIN, WE DON'T WANT YOU!
You knew that saying "The better our children's future?" well this goes to show that we are finally teaching the youth to stand on their own. McCain is wrong to bite back at a simple question. It was even a fair question. As for the student that was a bit sharp, all power to him. Free speech, all president hopefuls better get ready for it. I want a president that can take this, and be okay with it. I have been insulted before, McCain shouldn't be any different.
I believe those kids have every right to ask the questions they ask and to share their opinion whether you like it or not. The reason why our country is in the position it's in now is that we adults don't ask the right questions and don't voice our opinion or opposition. We just let someone lead us blindly to the slaughter.
And I personally sick of hearing about McCain's time spent in a POW camp. That doesn't make him anymore qualified to run our country as President. It's just stupid!
McCain's idea of "straight talk" is the same old garbage that the Republicans have been foisting on us since 1980. If you don't have a good answer, throw out an insult at the other person's expense.
McCain (as well as most of the presidential candidates of either party) would like nothing better than for all of the William Sleaster's of this country to sit down, shut up, and give unquestioning trust and respect to their "authority."
Now more than ever is the time and place to bluntly question the conventional "authority" that continues to erode our rights, our quality of life, and our stature in the world.
It's not the highschoolers fault that the generations before them are full of discriminatory thoughts limiting our governments views now.
What is wrong with our kids today? Don't they have any respect? This could very possibly be our next president and these kids spoke to him in the manner they did. Geesh. Is nothing sacred anymore?
The "school administrator" who scolded the student for commenting to McCain should be fired. Students should be encouraged, not discouraged to speak out. In many countries, students have been at the forefront of revolutions. Here they are confined sheep. Disgusting.
That student demonstrated more bravery than anything I have seen come from McCain. So often people believe public figures are inherently entitled to respect, and that is simply a falsehood. And the very discriminatory, outrageously hypocritical nature of McCain's comments warrant a slap on the wrist from someone, even if only a high school student. I would be proud of the "darling", as someone was so kind as to label him.
That school boy is awesome! What courage and guts that took. And as for people like Faith's comments – shows how ridiculous and functionally illiterate SHE is. That boy has probably more education, political awareness, and brilliance about equality and truth than Faith does in her whole body. Since when is a school system reprimanded for producing intelligent, articulate students who are aware and concerned about current national issues!? People might want to reread their comments before posting such when they are going to be so quick to judge and insult. Way to go Sleaster. You give me hope for a new, educated, open-minded country who thinks intelligently about issues.
After reading the comments from the high school students, I find McCain's comments more disturbing and intolerable than either of the high school students. As a college student, I am proud to see that there are students willing to voice their concerns on today's pressing issues. McCain should feel ashamed of wishing to grant basic human rights to only select citizens, calling a high school student a "little jerk," and finding it appropriate to joke about being drafted. Our men and women have died after being drafted. I not only agree with Sleaster, but applaud him.
"scolding by a school administrator"
thats right, teach them at a young age that freedom of speech should not exist. This is after all the Republican way.
Can anyone tell me why we are all trashing a kid, yet missing the point that McCain is uneducated about an American minority group?
How any educated American in a position of power and having voted on the Defense of Marriage Act has to have LGBT spelled out is shocking to me.
I think ol' Florida Joe is a little sensative. If you think about his statement in the context of "how things used to be", then it is funny. But if you're a hippy with a preregistered flight to Canada and/or Mexico then, yes Joe, not so funny.
I'm proud of these young children for standing up for what they believe in. I think they felt they were treated as if they're "just young people, don't know what they're talking about." New Flash, it's 2007 and many young people know what's up with the world. I agree that "the type of leaders we need- honest, not afraid to ask the hard questions, not afraid to do the right thing."
A "great" leader would never call a High school student a "little jerk" even in jest.
And the second student "Sleaser" I believe, recognized this.
A "great" leader of today would know what the "LGBT" community was and already have had an answer to this question.
McCain deserves no more respect than anyone else, and less if he is running for office and is so detracted from the issues. Good work High school kid, you get an "A"!
Mr. McCain was out of line calling the student "a little jerk". Kids ask questions that are on all our minds, but as adults we are afraid to ask.
This is the typical response from an arrogant and disrespectful republican candidate. No grown man, especially one with his power, should talk to a child in that manner. To say "you're drafted" leads me to believe that McCain is wearing his priorities on his sleeve.
I applaud the student who asked McCain about LGBT rights. The sanctity of marriage between ANY two people is unique. It is not a matter of if everyone will be allowed to marry but when.
I wouldn't call myself a Republican, but I appreciate anyone who will sit down with young people to get them/us more involved in the political process. I respect him for that.
And if he can't give a little humor ('you're drafted' comment) to high school kids, they will quickly lose interest. It does not mean he is war obsessed, its just funny.
I think McCain is one of the greatest leaders we have in government. His experience says everything about the type of man he is. I will definately support his bid for the White House.
I see so many people that pick and choose excerpts from a politician's exchange and take them out of context and blow them out of proportion.
For McCain to joke about the student being drafted was him having some fun. Because you dont share the same sense of humor with him does not mean he is a "war addict."
Come on people, let's stop being part of the problem. Sure, these kids should be commended for getting involved and active in the political process, but disrespecting a candidate, whether you agree or disagree with his or her ideas, is unacceptable. Let's show some class – even if our politicians struggle to do so.
I have no political affiliation, I like to consider myself a member of the common sense party.
This kid was just looking for some publicity and the like; you know, it's interesting...I'm almost positive that the maturity levels of kids today almost lend themselves to not fully understanding the numerous idiosyncrasies of an election season. I like the idea of a presidential candidate addressing students, but the students are too young to actually have solid political beliefs. They watch something on CNN that morning and that word is truth to them, which isn't always the case.
I make this admission right off, I do not support John McCain. In fairness though, he is not the only candidate that has issues with the LGBT community. It is a sad note, because the LGBT community is comprised like any other facet of the American society, it's made up of Americans. A country where the citizens are supposed to be promised life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Unless of course,that conflicts with some powerful heterosexuals intolerance.
They should give Sleaster John McCain's Purple Heart for surviving a conversation with him for as long as he did.
It's sad that some people think the student's statement was an insult. Since when is it disrespectful to tell a candidate that he/she don't have your vote? The student didn't use any insulting words; he was honest and civil.
I am more ashamed that McCain doesn't know what LGBT stands for. How far removed from society must one be to not know that?
Thank you and best wishes to William Sleaster! His parents should be VERY, VERY proud of him!
This smart, courageous kid has a better understanding of equality, fairness, and human rights than John McCain (and most of the other presidential candidates).
I'm a mother of three, and I would be so proud of my children if they were to stand up and speak out like this young man. I hope William considers running for public office, or president some day. We need real patriots like him!
William Sleaster: YOU ARE A HERO!
If McCain would insult a child, what would he do to a foreign dignitary ?
I honestly can't believe a Pres. candidate would stoop to such low standards.
He's TOAST, after that comment !!
I agree with the high school kid's point. You can't say you understand and respect someone else's rights when you are attempting to limit them. That is the unfortunate nature of what's going on in DC and young people can be brutally honest when it comes to perceived hypocrisy.
A shining example of our nations dismal youth and future. Where is respect for your elders? I guess disrespect and rampant stupidity is the new "black". I know many of you here "Liberals" are foaming at the mouth and saying this is freedom of speech. This is freedom of speech but more so poor taste and disrespect. So while you salivate like Pavlovs mongrel over this little brats stupidity, just remember when you are direspected in such a fashion grin and bare it like a good fool.
What's so bad about this teen expressing his opinion? So he doesn't see McCain as a leader... so what? Neither do I any more, and that goes for many popular public figures in government. I think Sleaster was right to challenge McCain– the senator needs to do some reflecting in my opinion on why he sold out to the neocons.
it seems like people are making too much of an effort to bend what is essentially a partial account of an event with questionable accuracy in a direction to support their political views. i believe its this micro-activism that divides the country when everyone seeks to turn every occurrence into an argument/platform upon which to villify the opposing view. reserve your comments unless you have something constructive rather than antagonistic to say and promote an aggression free dialog where thoughtful discourse, rather than hyperbole and ALLCAPS, is encouraged.
What do Republicans think when a marriage ends in Divorce??? Isn't that against the "sanctity of marriage between man and woman"?
It would be interesting to see if the young man would like to trade places with some servicemen and women in Iraq or Afganistan and duck bullets instead of insults? I bet he's to chicken.
It's easy to criticizes the senator for any of the verbal exchanges quoted in this article. There must be a current democratic presidential candidate who has also stood up, this year, to an open mike at a high school to handle unrehearsed/unscripted questions from high school teens.
Or is there?
i find the hypocricy of some of these posts very amusing. Obviously none of us were there to acutally hear the exchange between sleaster and McCain, so you can't gauge the sarcastic or joking nature of McCain's comment. Those of you who claim that it was very immature of McCain to even respond the way he did to the high schooler's response seem to discount the fact that the 'little jerk' was completely disrespectful towards someone who has lead and served this country over the past 40 years. Disrespect like that has no place in our schools or at a high profile event like that that many of use will never have the chance to attend. Be greatful, not disrespectfull. People have divergent views, and while people may not agree on the controversial issues, at least acknowledge that someone else doesn't share your view and go about it civilly, instead of being a mud-slinger. By disrespecting someone like that, you're view point becomes moot because you are not exemplifying your political intelligence (rather you are parading your political ignorance) and are not eloquent enough to articulate a logical response. It is good to ask our next presidential hopefuls questions like the ones asked today, but instead of disrespecting them, why not follow up with a more in depth question instead of a bratty remark...a lot more would get answered that way.
It's wonderful to see children actually taking a position and wanting to learn about the political process. I for one am appalled that Senator McCain would even call a student a "little jerk" because the student managed to trip him up on his well rehearsed speech. I am surprised however that the school administrator scolded him. The boy was practicing his right to free speech, regardless of whether McCain liked it or not. Sorry Senator, you committed political suicide when you did this. Many high school students today are going to be able to vote in the primaries and the national election. Unless the Republican party manages to steal or rig another election I seriously doubt you'll see a republican sitting in the White House after the next election.
How dare that school official scold the boy! It's sad when a school the place that should foster the exchange of ideas would discipline a student for speaking his/her mind.
I often wonder, do Gay and Lesbian parents expect their children to grow up to be gay or lesbian too? Or do they support their hetero children with the same vigor as their gay children? (An honest question, because I don't know much about the GL community.)
Let's tackle all the issues here:
The "litle jerk" comment- He was joking, not serious. He was responding to a question about his age, not his political philosophies, so is therefore not avoiding anything. Take a joke!
Gay Marriage- It shouldn't be a political issue at all. Marriage is a religious bond, and should remain that way. The government should only handle civil unions. And anyone should be able to obtain a civil union for the purposes of insurance, inheritance, etc. Leave marriage to the church.
Sleater- Yes, this kid has every right to say what he did. It's important that people continue to speak up about their positions. But with that privilege comes responsibility. You have to be respectful, no matter how much you disagree. Attack the position, not the person. When you get into personal attacks, you lose credibility. The kid will learn this as he grows up. He's still a baby yet.
Anyways, McCain has thus far proven to be the most capable candidate yet. Like him or hate him, he's the only person with the experience and the knowledge to fill the position!
I think that it's humorous that the Senator can call a child a "little jerk" and get away with it.
But when the children stand up for what they believe in, and speak their mind-which is what this country is all about-they get scolded.
I'm totally with Alex in WI and Michelle in MN – We need MORE kids like this willing to verbalize all the things their adult counterparts are too damn polite to do. Some of you may think he's a smart-mouth, but I think if we had more people like William Sleaster who are unwilling to sacrifice truth for the sake of civility, maybe we wouldn't be in this neverending corrupt war.
I'm smiling knowing the next generation is watching, participating, and ready to vote soon.
Jacob, give your bro a big pat on the back from the Elizabeth on the west coast. You and your family should be proud
Wow that draft comment sure did angry up the wussies. Look people it was a joke and a funny one too. McCain was just playing with a subject that high schoolers fear. I seriously doubt that he (McCain) actually wants to send a kid to war (that's just an idiotic thought process that I can't begin to comprehend) or wants to punish him for his comment. I believe Mr McCain was actually impressed by this kids comment. Now before I get the right wing crap comments I'll let be known that I am a register Independent , I am what many would consider a leftist (I voted Green a few times for crying out loud!); so no I am not a pro Republican kind of guy. I am however someone who has a genuine respect for John McCain, and if I did ever vote Republican it would be for him.
First of all, the question about age was meaningless. There is no presidential candidate, regardless of age, who is exempt from the possibility of dying in office, or getting a disease that might affect his judgment.
As for the other student, who came looking for a good leader but didn't find one, the comment was obviously rehearsed and no matter how McCain answered his question, he would've made that comment. I think that before some twit like this kid makes a comment like that, he ought to look at who he is talking to. McCain has an exemplary record as a serviceman and as a politician, whereas this kid has yet to separate from his mama's bosom.
As for the gay marriage debate, it will not subside anytime soon. Marriage ought to remain between a man and a woman; everyone else will just have to find another way to unionize.
Very courageous young lad. I wish many more asked such tough questions which are very pertinent of candidates. Obviously his age is of concern. Why in a nation of such great talent do we place emphasis on his age and experience. His views seem outdated anyway. Kudos young man...You define the spirit of young America...fearless , bright and energetic
As a life long resident of NH, I can assure you that anyone who lives in this state learns about politics starting from the cradle. It surrounds us starting two years before an election, and continues until months after the primary. Any candidate appearing before the children of this state will get honest and typically informed questions. As a child and a teen, I went to rallies to hear Pres. Ford, Pres Carter, Sen Kennedy (Ted, that is), Gov. Dukakis, VP Bush Sr, Pres Clinton, and, last Sunday night, Sen. Clinton in my hometown of Portsmouth, NH.
I grew up on politics and respect any teen who is not afraid to stand up to his leader to ask the tough questions or fire back a dissenting opinion. That is how to keep the politicians on-track. Anyone not as involved with the process might want to keep that in mind.
People are crazy.
1. McCain was just joking with the kid who asked about his age. There was no insult involved. It was funny.
2. I just read another "Bush stole the election" comment. Please review our election system- everything was done exactly as it was supposed to be.
3. McCain's response about gay and lesbian issues was excellent. He stated his position with respect to others and even encouraged the national debate to continue.
4. The Sleaster kid is a REAL jerk- throwing an obscure acronym at him then telling him he is a poor leader (just because he didn't agree). Now thats a class act. There is supposed to be a balance between criticism/questioning and respectfulness. He needs to learn that.
6. For me, I don't see how anyone could see this "event" as anything other than positive for McCain. He was open and honest. He was funny. He showed some real leadership by not "informing" Sleaster of his leadership experience. He was a REAL complete class act.
This exchange would've been even better if the student (who I am presuming is gay) had responded to McCain's draft comment by reminding the senator had just said he does not want gays serving in the military.
I'm proud to hear about high school students, who are likely not even old enough to vote, engaging in the political process. Kudos to this student for taking a stand and shame on the school for reprimanding him.
I really don't see anything wrong with what McCain said here. He thinks marriage should be between a man and a woman, add agrees with "Don't ask, don't tell", and "that debate needs to be continued to be held."
So he's saying there should be a debate, and which side he would take. Good for him for stating his views but admitting there are other ones out there worthy of discussion. For those who are saything this is an ignorant answer, please explain.
The kid closed his statement with an opinion that takes a personal shot at someone who has dedicated most of his life to serving this country. I agree with his right to do it, he should not have gotten into trouble for it, but it's not very classy. And a personal attack is not exactly a strong tactic in debate (although it's pretty popular).
I like that McCain takes a stance on issues, whether I agree with them or not. I don't get the feeling that he's having the polsters tell him what the most popular answers would be.
I'm a Republican. I think Hillary is an uber politician, Edwards more show than go, and Obama just too inexperienced. That said, if my son had made the same comment "I didn't find one" to ANY of them, I would have been disappointed in him (and by the way, he wouldn't have done that). There are times when it's appropriate to respect your elders even if you don't agree with them. I would encourage my son to ask tough questions, but I would also expect him to be respectful of those who are giving answers. If you admire the "I didn't find one" comment, don't be surprised (and don't you dare tsk) the next time you find a 12-year old cussing at you, etc. One of the challenges with a free society is that many people just don't have the maturity to handle it gracefully and respectfully. Tough questions, yes. But this kid has NO business saying McCain is not a leader...it's a stupid and disrespectful thing to say.
Although his drafted comment was poorly stated, I think he meant it as comedy. That statement should be put into the category of yet another statement that intended humor but grossly missed it's mark. It can be argued that the straight talk express has been and continues to de-rail on key issues, but McCain in general can be seen as one of the most forward senators in Washington. He is a leader, and has been one for years; however, leaders are formed through constant conflict and trial. This is one more battle that will test the leadership qualities of this storied military man and politician. It will be interesting to see how the senator handles the press and publicity from this situations.
McCain is a contradiction unto himself. He doesn't believe in discrimination, yet he doesn't believe in equal rights. Common sense puts those two hand in hand. I believe that the right to marry the person you love whether it's a man-man, woman-woman, or man-woman relationship.
We have all been in high school at one point or another. I find it funny that so many people here actually think that there are that many kids out there that actually have developed an opinion that isn't based on somebody elses. If that was the case the voting numbers among the younger voters wouldn't be as piss poor as they are.
I hate to imagine what kind of mess we would have if the young voters in this country did start voting. I might feel different if they actually spent time looking for information and we hadn't created this society where living at home until your 30 is the norm. But until we start teaching our youth self reliance and accountability again I can only hope the youth of this country will continue to not vote.
“I came here looking to see a good leader, I don’t,” Sleaster said.
Define a 'good leader'..Does young Mr. Sleaster understand what it takes to be a leader of any kind, let alone a good leader? Regardless of whether or not he believes McCain is a good leader or not, McCain as earned the right to be respected. I have no problem with freedom of speech, but what Mr. Sleaster said was totally disrespectful and another indication of the problem with America today. Disrespectful people who don't have any consideration for anyone that doesn't see eye-to-eye with their ideals. It takes a leader to stand up and take a side. Not one to 'ride the fence' like most politicians have become so adept at.
McCain's quest for the presidency has
turned the independent maverick into
I KNOW ITS WRONG BUT I AM UNDER A LOT
OF PRESSURE during the "nuclear option"
episode that nearly changed the Senate rules. Rove and the neocons did what
the Hanoi Hilton did not, broke his
spirit with the threat of non-support.
After the rug was pulled from him by the GOP during Dubya's first election, I expected him to be more independent not less.
What did they expect to get from high schoolers? It is one of the last times in any person's life that they can truly tell it how it is without worry. Good for that kid pointing out that there are no good leaders in these races. I continually look for good leaders, including John McCain, but what I get are Republican and Democrat Automatons. We are only one party away from Fascism. Do away with these abominations of politics and lets here what is truly on the minds of people.
as an aside: functionally illiterate is an apt descriptor for the individuals who claim to be high school students posting in this thread. and while they may not be sheep necessarily they certainly seem incapable of expressing any complexities inherent in their internal thought processes with words.
It's always nothing but political spin. Candidates these days don't really answer any questions. They don't really address any issues. They just spin everything and leave some of us with a bigger question mark over our heads then what we had with the original question.
“I believe that the sanctity of marriage between man and woman is unique and should be preserved, and I understand the controversy that swirls around that issue, and that debate needs to be continued to be held, but I support that position,” McCain said.
Yes, that's because all politicians do these days is debate, and nothing productive gets done. I'm very surprised at these kid's moxie. It gives me much more hope in the future generation then I had before.
The student must've known something about Ronald Reagan, as he was perceived by some to have been mentally adrift in his later years.
It is a valid concern, given McCain's age.
As usual someone makes a comment and they get blasted because people cannot see past their own highly opinionated viewpoints. Wow, John McCain made a joke about drafting a kid...he must be a warmonger. You people really need to get a clue. It's that kind of partisan thinking that has created the current fiasco in our political process today. You do not see people, you see words that you then fit into your already determined world view. This goes to both Republicans and Democrat partisans. Try using your brain and rationally thinking about who you want for a leader. We'll all be better off.
Sorry, I can't reconcile the self-adopted "Straight Talk" moniker with McCain’s internally inconsistent positions and his frequent inability to answer the same question the same way at different stump stops – or even during the same town hall meeting for that matter!
How do you oppose any form of discrimination but support Don't Ask Don't Tell? McCain just doesn't seem like a solid choice for both supporters of gay rights or folks who believe homosexuality is deviant behavior undeserving of federal protections.
And his inconsistency doesn’t stop there. Just Google "McCain flip-flop" to get yourself started. Yes, you’ll find left-wing and left-leaning sites covering this, but look for substantiated quotes from sources you’re personally comfortable with and I’d be surprised if you’re able to hang on to the "Straight Talk" notion of John McCain for long. The bottom line is that for many issues, whatever your personal position, you’ll find quotes that indicate McCain both supports and opposes it. And I’m not talking about a growth process over the years of gradually changing one’s mind...
After reading the article I realized that Sleaser is a prime example of what is wrong with this country. Kids today do not care who they are rude to or who they insult. It just shows that this country is going down the toilet. Sleaser is an embarrasment to his school, his family and his country. He is a useless kid who will grow up to be a useless adult. HOW DARE SOME SNOT NOSE KID INSULT A MAN WHO HAS GIVEN EVERYTHING FOR HIS COUNTRY!!!
Thank you Tamara from Concord! (the only other student who actually attended the rally). Thank you for speaking so eloquently on the subject. We all have our beliefs and live in a place where we can freely express them. However, there's no excuse for being impolite and disrespectful. Sadly, Sleaster totally negated his whole point of view the second that last statment came out of his mouth. The scolding he received from the administrator was about how unatractive rudeness really is.
When Mr. McCain called the one child a "little jerk" he set up the atmosphere for Mr. Sleaster to insult him. If Mr. McCain can't handle comments like that from Mr. Sleaster he shouldn't be running for office. If Mr. McCain wants respect he must create that kind of atmosphere, in this case he did not.
if you think that the education budget is bloated, then you need to do some serious research before you vote in the next election because education in this country is sorely lacking.
At any rate, it's not good for a high schooler to blatantly disrespect a national authority figure such as McCain. The fact that he did not understand the initials was (or at least, given the current political climate, should have been) insulting enough to the man.
So now the old coot is picking on kids?
Niiice.
Want tough questions let the kids ask em!!!! Seems like a fiar question to me.
I just hope the "little jerks" will vote this time around rather than sit at home and blog about it.
I forgot to mention that CNN is doing quite a disservice to McCain by headlining the article with the out-of-context quote "Thanks for the question you little jerk". From many of the comments, it's clear many people are only reading the bad headline and not what was actually taking place.
So isn't Sleaster being rude to McCain because McCain doesn't share his view the same thing as what Sleaster thinks he is against?
There's a difference between asking tough questions and being disrespectful; the concepts are not mutually exclusive, in theory or application.
“You want to take away someone’s rights because you believe it’s wrong,” Sleaster followed up.
Hmmm... so let me see. I'd guess that most of us think incest is wrong. And we're certainly willing to take away someone's "rights" to having incest with their child. So according to Sleaster, none of us would ever make a good leader because we would dare to find something immoral or wrong.
Why do you need the financial benefits of marriage in homosexual relationships incapable of creating children thanks to natural biology. There is no "need" for a marriage licence except maybe to file joint tax returns...which, of course, I think are designed to help people running a family household, not two men living together. Frankly, I fail to see why homosexuals need the tax benefit, and therefore see no need for a "state recognized" marriage. You can still buy rings and kiss and do whatever, but explain why the government should even care.
Jason,
No proof of John Kerry's issue. Read the book he wrote. He was another Jane Fonda in Vietnam. He wrote a book aboutit. Then he went to court over it to keep from being republished during the campaign. He provides the proof but our legal system and his being a lawyer kept it from being republished! Irrelevant you say!! Guess it wasn't you affected so it is! However my dad was over that way and it was for him. He never speaks of it but he has alot to say when asked how he feels about Jane F. and John K. As for this issue. I personnaly think the last remark was typical of a teenager. He will someday learn manners or not. McCain I believe was also out of line for the little jerk drafted issue as well. Joke or not NOT FUNNY. Our military is volunteer for a reason. LRead the history books. It is proven time and again that we have the best system military wise because we are an all volunteer. But I agree with the don't ask don't tell. I was in and don't care what orientation you are as long as you do your job but don't want to shower with a GL. If you are gonna say its ok just change the bathroom situations in basic and in the field then run with it. How's that for straight talk. Or is this disrespectful by stating my opinion for you.
A student is repraminded for making a pointed remark. How about saying something to the senator for suggesting a draft?? we do live in democratic society and a leader has to deal with all circumstances. Coreographed meetings of the politicians are giving democracy a bad name!!!!!!
I'm very happy that kid spoke his mind – and unsettled by the comments in this ticker that say he should have refrained.
If more people had been vocal like this with Bush, maybe he wouldn't have been elected or re-elected to destroy our country, and threaten our children's futures.
What's wrong in stating the obvious? McCain isn't even on the radar as a possible candidate these days.
What you read is indicative of an area that has become Northern Massachusetts. I am from that area and their is a growing active group invading the Live Free or Die principles that NH was known for. No longer can you count on NH to be a bastion of reason and steadfastness. It is now a colony of the peoples republic of MA. Both of these children are obvious spawns of ignorant ideals based on half truths and out right lies. I am not surprised by the lack of respect. They are a product of propoganda. Enjoy Senator McCain while is is with us. He is an example of an American Hero who speaks the truth without sugar coating it.
This is the type of political discourse that we need in America. I am glad that these students decided to speak candidly with Sen. McCain. While I don't agree with or support McCain, I commend him on doing question and answer sessions like these and spending the time to listen to the concerns of the next voting generation of Americans.
Hilarious.
As for scolding or punishing these kids, give me a break. They're TEENAGERS. If the teachers had thought this event through a bit more, they would have censored the questions first. Now that would have been democratic.
for any of the people who think it's rude to say "little jerk", i think it's obvious from anyone who isn't a partisan hack that mccain was joking, and "little jerk" is probably no more rude than someone asking if you're too old to be competent in office.
also, maybe the LGBT movement would get a little more credence without knee jerk high school kids getting all emotional and upset about someone having a different stance
I think it's great that he told a candidate exactly what he thought. So many people sugar coat things and the message never gets across. I commend him for telling McCain he doesn't see a good leader. Lord knows what I'd say if I ever got the opportunity to meet Bush.
I think this kid's reply was absolutely justified. The vast majority of our politicians have sold out the interest of the American people to the extent that we're spending billions of dollars a month on an unjustified, illegal and completely discretionary war, one for which McCain also voted. The kid was absolutely right. Good leaders don't lie to their constituents nor do they sell out the interest of their constituents to the highest corporate financial backer. McCain is a liar and has deserves to be recognized as such.
In addition, marriage is a human right and not a religious, heterosexual, or government issued privilege. As such when the kid stated that McCain was actually in part taking away the rights of some people to be lawfully married, his perspective was actually correct and based in sound reason and logic since refusing to acknowledge and protect a human right absolutely amounts to taking that right away.
That smartalecky kid should've been taken out to the woodshed.
It's one thing to have and express an opinion, it's entirely another to be disrespectful to an adult with a long and distinguished career of service simply for the sake of being disrepectful. I'm sure half the school will think he's "kewl" now.
Great work, parents.
Tamara from Concord High School's English shows how the dumbing down of American has hurt our education system. Like so many others (school kids and most adults as well), she doesn't have the best spelling and grammar. And we just can't teach our kids the difference between "there," "their," and "they're." Sheesh–it's elementary school stuff that high school graduates can't even learn. Such a shame, the education system in our country. Tamara, you should have used "their."
Although I do not agree with the way McCain responded to the questions, I do agree with his positions. See the constitution was writen assuming you know about all the bibles belief's and standards and know that they apply to this country. The constitution was writen to explain things that were not writen in that detail or drawn on, to that level. No statement in the constitution changes or violates any biblical princle. Thus the bible was assumed the primary law then the constituion was a futher explaination, specific to the needs of the USA. (note: all this is in the libray of congress). Thus a persons right to be gay is not in question, they have that right and as a military person I will defend that to my death. However, Gay individuals were never given the right the marry either by the constitution or by the bible. McCain can't take away anything that was never given.
Okay, McCain is hypocritical on his discrimination position.
He's blasted for making a clear joke on drafting a kid, unless the kid is drafted in the near future.
I am surprised that Sleaster was scolded by an administrator, though. I'm even more surprised of the accusations that schools are adequetely funded.
Oh well. I hope McCain would come to an inner city high school and take questions. That would be meaningful to me.
"Budget-bloated educational system"?
Wow. Maybe it's been a few years since you went to school yourself, but I've seen richer panhandlers.
The kid said it and it is done. Maybe he was right maybe he was wrong. He did get to say what was on his mind. As a gay man with the same and only partner for the past nine years, it is tough to hear people say that we don't deserve the same rights as "normal" people but we manage to keep our heads high. We have been raising our son the best way we know how; with lots of love and attention. His mother sure doesn't know how to do it. All I would like to be able to do is if there is an emergency, I would like to be able to visit my partner in ICU. I would like to be able to say: this is my partner and we love each other" without wondering if someone was going to bach us in the back of the head. I would like to be able to hold his hand in public without fear. There are so many simple things that heterosexuals take for granted yet we as homosexuals most often get the short end of the stick. I don't want to take anything away from you and I don't want you to give me anything that I don't deserve. A little respect goes a long way.
Somewhere, the spirit of many of our founding fathers, as well as the soldiers who died to make our Nation a Nation, have stood up together and saluted the yound person who asked the question. Also, they sat in horror while listening to the citizens who follow blindly.
The fact that McCain doesn't know GLBT speaks for itself. Any candidate of today needs to have that in their lexicon.
As for the student, there is nothing wrong with stating they do not see a leader. The candidates need more "real" interaction.
It's a shame the administration scolded the student for simply stating a view.
I am sorry that the school saw fit to censor the student for availing himself of his first amendment rights. Since when is one not allowed to make an editorial comment? The right to disagree and be able to voice it is something that many of us hold dear. These used to fall under free speech. Hoorah, that unlike so many other of today's youth, he takes part in the process, seems relatively well informed and doesn't use profanity. I thought that schools were to educate and expand students' horizons but apparently they are there to enforce only their own views. What a waste of our tax dollars and precious young minds. They are sending the wrong message. As parents, we should all be worried about this trend.
Hey,
I find myself agreeing with McCain less and less, but you have to hand it to him for not pre-screening his entire audience the way Bush, Clinton, Rudy, Obama, Edwards, Romney, Clinton, Thompson and Bush did.
Go Sleaster!
Very simply, Sleaster's lack of respect says more about him than McCain. I was not impressed by the child's behavior, the CNN primo coverage and attention to an extremely polarized, intolerant youth.
I think once McCain made a comment like "you little jerk . . . you're drafted," he should have expected just about anything in return. You don't talk to kids like that.
McCain did not make himself look like a leader at that speech. He just made himself look like a jerk.
So McCain's "against discrimination" but wishes for discrimination to remain enshrined in law? No hypocrite is a true leader; that kid was just calling him as he saw him.
I believe challenging questions are fair game. Differences of opinion and debate are part of American culture.
However, Mr. Sleaster needs to take a class on proper respect.
Kudos to Senator McCain for answering the question respectfully and honestly.
Senator McCain suffered enormously for his love of our country. If Mr. Sleaster exchanged his ipod for a short stay at the Hanoi Hilton, he would obviously show the Senator a bit more respect.
I am undecided on my choice for President, but I am sure glad Senator McCain is one of the options.
-"LGBT" is a non-issue. It's a personal choice. The federal government shouldn't be involved.-
Fine. Then marriage in general should not be regulated by the government at all since it is a personal choice. But since that will NEVER happen, LGBT's should have equal access to marriage as straights do. In the eyes of our constitution, as adults it shouldn't matter who they are intimate with. It's so sad to see that the same arguments are being used against gay marriage as were used against bi-racial marriage (which used to be illegal in this country, however, I don't think anyone would think that a black marrying a white is wrong these days {for the most part}). Legally LGBT's should not be inhibited from doing anything straights can end of story, otherwise there is not equality period.
-That little snotty kid owes the senator an apology.-
Not really, if the kid doesn't think McCain will make a good leader, then he has the right to tell him so.
-The federal government has not taken rights away from any LGBT. States may not grant marriage licenses and health care programs may not pay for the cost of a gender switch, but that has nothing to do with the federal government.-
Posted By G Jones Vista CA : September 4, 2007 4:12 pm-
Yeah, it kinda does have to deal with the federal government since they should be the ones protecting the equal rights of LGBT's. A state should NOT be aloud to deny rights based on gender preference just like jobs can't hire or not hire you based on gender preference. Same simple principle.
McCain finally gets some tough questions – when he visits a high school. Our professional watchdog press corps must be so proud of themselves.
Thanks for the question you little jerk..you're drafted. haha McCain is hilarious.
Kids like this Sleaster punk need to be taught a thing or two about manners. Rather than an advancement in our youth it seems to point to a degredation of our family structures. Just because you have free speech doesn't mean manners and morals go out the window. These become even more important in a society where you can choose how to live your life.
You people are all so ignorant...
Its not about kids fighting back against "evil republicans" Give me a break. Do you raise your kids like that? I hope not!
Its about the fact that he insulted Senator McCain. He should be honored that the Senator showed up at his school. Its a privledge to be included in an event like this. Especially in a world where most politicians are spending there time at $25,000 per plate fundraisers rather than at a H.S speaking with kids that probably arent even old enough to vote.
Republican or Democrat... thats just plain disrespectful and that kid and his parents should be ashamed.
There is a difference between asking a smart question and asking a question smartly. One shows an intellegent thought process and the other shows ignorance. Making a person responded intellectually requires tact and respect. Being rude does nothing but involve emotions. And we wonder why kids take guns to schools, do drugs, get pregnant at an early age, etc.. This civilization is in decline due to the fact that we are too loose a society. There has to be a fine line that we, as a society, shouldnt cross period with respect to all aspects of life. Dialog should be open, honest, and respectful of one another.
Now, for the glbt thing....i think their cause would move further if people didnt push the lifestyle into the mainstream. they should have basic "partnership" rights. why is our culture so bent on everyone being identified by a group? our melting pot is melting any more.
We have people who say "Out of the mouths of babes..." basically glorifying the teenagers at Concord High School(not to mention that saying was taken from the Bible, and is entirely out of context with what the commenter was saying), and on the other hand we have those who believe Sleaster was just plain rude. I for one thought the things that were said by Sleaster were out of hand. Its really upsetting when people have to watch their words around the gay and lesbian community, but when it comes down to those in power everyone has loose lips and can say anything they want to. I'm 23 years old now and when I was in highschool I knew the lines that I could cross and still be tactful. There is a way that you can represent yourself intelligently instead of s yourself to be an accusatory fanatic. It seems as though we have the freedom of speech unless it comes to homosexuality.
I wouldnt want little brats like that in my army anyway. GOP 08
Here we go again treating our kids like second-class citizens. It is amazing to think that some of you "grown ups" believe that a high school student does not have the right to say what he thinks! It is shameful that we are teaching our youth not to be individuals and to be PC in such young age so what if he thinks that McCain is not a good leader at least he has the balls to tell it how it is.
Way to go, John. I have no problem with a candidate throwing it right back at someone when they're being rude.
“Thanks for the question, you little jerk … you’re drafted.”
I don't think a presidential candidate should even JOKE about drafting. It is not funny. I can understand how people found the student's question disrespectful, maybe. However, I found Sen McCain's nasty comment extremely inappropriate, unnecessary, and much more disrespectful.
McCain calls the young man a "jerk" and he responds saying he didn't see a leader. Sounds like a fair fight to me. Either they both need more "manners" or neither of them does. How weird that most of the comments find only one of them objectionable.
I do think it is interesting how quick people are to crucify people. It was clear to me McCain was trying to be wry with the high schoolers. But as you can read in many of these comments, there are people freaking out over it.
I guess people just want a fake plastic politician because whenever someone shows some humanity, like McCain did, they get flamed.
But hey, You "go girl/guy!" At least McCain had the balls to go to one of the most threatening civilian areas in the US (the school system)
PS – IMO This whole thing makes McCain look better not worse, and I wasn't even intending on voting for him either.
I'm a liberal and I won't be voting for McCain but we should at least show respect for people that have spent their life fighting for what they beleive in. This trend in the political atmosphere where "everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot or a liar" is destroying intelligent dialog in this country.
Its one thing to ask intelligent questions and challenge established positions, that's great. But its quite another to sit in the bleachers and take pot-shots at someone you don't really know, or in this case call them a poor leader because they disagree with you on a single philosophical/legal issue. That's not really the attitude I want to encourage in our future-voters.
I personally do not support McCain or agree with him on virtually any of his positions. However, the way I read his "little jerk" comment, it sounds like nothing more than his version of a noogie. In context, it reads as though it was meant to be more endearing than anything else – a lighthearted response to something that called into question the candidate's very own mortality. Leave it to the press to spin these things one way or another. That said, kudos to the kid for having the fortitude to stand up and question authority. This virtue has been missing in our youth for far too long.
To G Jones in Vista, CA:
What rock are you living under to say that being LGBT is a personal choice? Seriously, evolve into the 21st century. There are numerous scientific studies that prove this is a genetic trait. I am amazed at the ignorance of people in this country...
James, Phoenix AZ,
"I wonder what village raised that child (Sleaser)? It's one thing to ask questions of a candidate – it's another to simply insult them."
Wow! Holy SUPER wow!
So much for free speech then eh? Any OTHER constitutional re-writes you'd like to make us aware of James?
It's unfortunate the young man can't appreciate the traits of a true leader, someone who you can depend upon to be consistant. I can't say I agree with everything Sen McCain says but I do appreciate that you know where he stood yesterday, where he stands today, and will probably be standing tomorrow.
It is a great question this kid asked. A very important question and for the press to brush it off as something cute McCain did is a reflection of how out of touche the mainstream press is.
This is a question that a Kyra Phillips should be asking.
Shame on the administrator for scolding that boy! He had every right to make the comment he made, especially considering the sarcastic tone set by the senator himself ("you little jerk...you're drafted"). He should be praised for taking an interest and asking a question, and also for expressing his feelings in reaction to MeCain's answer.
I think that kid that said that is in the right. This man is asking for votes from the people and as a citizen he has the right and duty to point out flaws. And anybody that brings there own personall religion choices into the debate about the right to love someone is not someone that deserves to be in office. I say good for you kid, and the school official that scolded him should be fired. That sounds like him/her trying to stop someones right to free speech.
McCain is not a leader, he only acts like he really cares of public opinion. He is a very watered down version of Dick Cheney. Same mentality
Lets try to be objective here. I actually disagree with John McCain on many of his positions, but I don't see that he did anything wrong, here. Clearly, the kid has a right to his opinions but he became rude, resorting to insults when he didn't get the answer that he was looking for. His scolding should be based upon his poor manners rather than his point of view.
Moreover, Mr. McCain's joke about the drafting the other kid was indeed funny; the day jokes are frowned upon because they don't align with someone's political stripes, is the day I move to Canada.
These kids are great. Why is it that *children* are more awake when it comes to politics than the adults?? No-one ever asks these *very important* questions AND McCain didn't even know what LGBT is! Go, kids, go!!
OMG John you can pack it in now for sure. How dare you talk to future voters of America this way ? Have you forgotten that New Hampshire is the first primary ? The "little jerk" had a most legitimate question and your reply was very schoolyard. You could not have done any better than that and you're running for President ?
Also, could anyone else give a more sitting on the fence point of view concerning the LGBT issue ? And since when is the marriage between a man and a woman "unique" ? LMBO !!! We are the rule, not the exception.
Michelle in Minneapolis,
You wrote, "That "little darling" is what America needs more people put out there fighting for the same rights as you "little straight people".
Gay people have the SAME right to marriage as straight people currently. Being a straight male can I marry another man? No?
So gay or straight people can't marry the same sex.
Can a gay man marry a woman? Yes??
Hmmm… sounds like we all have the SAME rights to me.
Way to go Mr McCain ! I'd respond with the same comment...I've got a 16 year old son !!
...sick twisted freaks...
GREAT GOD! I love this kid!! What a zinger. He said what most Americans are thinking. I cant believe that it actually got reported. Fredom of speech at its finest. Politicians are not above the people that they represent. In todays world, a politician (regardless of affiliation) in nothing more than a self serving figure head pushing their own agendas and hiding behind political ideas and sound bites that make them appear intelligent.
William Sleaster I applaude your effort!!!
I think McCain was right in what he said. He said it in a joking manner and the way the world is, someone has to make a fuss about something that is usless. I feel we as a country can never be happy, there is always to sides to the story, if one is liberal, one is conservitive, if someone supports the war, someone will be against it. It was joke between him and the student asking the question, no one elses problem.
McCain rocks....hahaha you're drafted. That's what those little rich kids need, a taste of some disipline.
Kudos to the young man. Honesty is a refreshing quality in politics. He had questions and was displeased with the answer and stated so. Those that admonished him need to be reacquainted with the First Amendment. There was no profanity, nor personal slur, rather it was merely a statement of opinion and even minors are still entitled to that.
McCain is our Senator and has been a wonderful public servant.
BUT, I believe it is time for him to retire. His policy is sloppy, his stamina is weakening, he's over exposed in the press and he's not showing himself in a very good light.
One should always leave people wanting more.
No one seems to realize that it’s good that young people feel empowered to be critical and stare down major political leaders like McCain but there are appropriate and inappropriate ways of going about it. The manor in which the student expressed his distaste for McCain did nothing but make his stance look young and immature.
Are we really going to look down at McCain because he can tell a few jokes? Honestly I want a candidate who not only respects the opposite opinion than him but he’ll joke about it and when it comes down to it, work with those he doesn’t agree with. He’s been compromising and working with Democrats and Republicans for years. He’s gotten more done than Hillary and Obama have ever dreamed of in their first terms and it’s in large part due to his sense of humor and willingness to listen.
And what’s this about McCain being a war hawk? He’s the only candidate who wants to close down Gitmo, ensure proper rights and manage Iraq in a proper and non-delusions fashion. It sucks that we're in IRAQ, we should never have gone there. Very few argue that but if we pull out now...we will have even more blood on our hands because we took away that countries stability and replaced it with violence and death for Iraq and the Middle East as a whole. McCain sees this and people who are unwilling to face reality and simply want to pull out...don't.
Bravo to the students for speaking their minds, and for showing interest in and passion over the political process. I would expect them to challengs ALL the candidates in the same way. Seems to me they were the straight talkers. This kind of talk comes with the territory. If McCain can't handle it, if the best he can do is a reply which includes words like "jerks," he shouldn't be running in the first place.
Funny how most people here do not get the "you little jerk" comment. It was meant to be FUNNY. Actually, they do get it, but they hate McCain so much, they use it. McCain will not get my vote, but I have the common sense to see it was a JOKE.
And out of ALL the problems we have in this country, "LGBT" is the most important?
To Ryan in Milwauke:
The fact that he sees war and drafting as an amusing joke doesn't say that he can handle how others percieve him. It says he can't think on his feet, and needs a script writer to come up with his one-liners for him. We don't need another president like that.
To James in Phoenix:
I don't know what village raised him, but I think I'd like to move there. The one that raised YOU on the other hand... I wonder... Are your parents proud of YOU?
To William Sleaster:
I admire your guts for going up and saying what you did. It takes a strong, brave person to do that. And you're right. John McCain is no leader. He is no more than the quitessential, adult, white male. I sometimes think that us highschool kids have more sense than all those pompous and self-important "adults" combined.
I thought McCain responded in-kind to the banter he exchanged with the student. I'm all for honest, tough questions, but rudeness and lack of respect tarnishes the validity of the question. I like McCain. I hope he's able to regain his campaign strength.
I like McCain. But then I have a sense of humor. Those of you who have none are just, well, kind of pathetic. My experience suggests that you will not gain a sense of humor or learn it, either. You're like doomed, man. Have a nice serious life. And after you're dead, we'll all seriously not miss you.
I think the young man is a little confused between hard questions and bad behavior. I suspect his parents are confused too if they think this is appropriate behavior.
My disappointment and disgust at the commentary on here by supposedly "informed" CNN readers is indescribable. As a Democrat, I disagree heartily with many of McCain's positions, but for any of you to be so unflinchingly partisan as to support a highschool CHILD telling a honorable war veteran and Senator that he "came to see a leader and didn't find one" is just inexcusable. What about values such as respect for authority or elders? This kid hasn't even paid his own bills yet and you think he has the right to tell a man of McCain's background what "leadership" looks like? There is a right and wrong way to present your views and opinions, and this must be constantly reminded if a free society is to succeed. Freedom of speech should not eliminate individual responsibility for statements-it should INCREASE it. It sickens me to see my fellow Americans declaring otherwise.
William Sleaster for Class President!! If only more of these kids would put down their X-Box and I-Pods and get involved with what is going on in this so called equal and free country.
This guy will never get elected president. He doesn't know how to treat people respectfully. Sure, the kid wasn't nice to him either, but tomorrow nobody will remember the kid's name, but people will remember that he called some teenager a jerk.
I have no problem with these kids given the opportunity to question candidates. I think it's a great way to teach these kids about our system and get them involved in future voting. Makes them feel like they can truly make an impact.
Given that though, it's sad to see that some high school students have the maturity level of middle school kids. McCain is a former POW, I'd like to see that kid endure that treatment for 10 minutes, let alone the years that McCain did.
You don't have to agree with people, or even like them, but respect for elders and leaders should be a given. I hope he felt like a real tough guy for running his lip like that, because I'm disgusted with the way much of our youth has turned to this sort of behavior.
“I came here looking to see a good leader, I don’t,” Sleaster said before leaving the microphone to some boos and gasps from the audience and an eventual scolding by a school administrator.
Nice comment kid...really full of respect for a man who fought for his country in Vietnam so you can have the RIGHT to insult him as you just did. Although not the one who McCain called a "little jerk", that comment would be lame to what the "Slease" should have had coming.
This kid was born at the wrong time...would have been nice to see his mouthy little butt under McCain's command in Vietnam and then, maybe then, he would have seen what a leader is.
After reading this entire blog, I am pumped up to vote for McCain now more than ever. Thanks all of you omniscient high schoolers in New Hampshire for pointing this out.
And as for the rest of you distorted left-wingers on this blog talking about how smart these high schoolers are.....please, pleeeese don't support the insolence here.....this country has needed the draft reinstalled for some time now...not for fighting a "war" in Iraq but for teaching the present and future male population of the US what discipline and respect truly is....that's a gift one can truly receive from being in the military.
I think it's ridiculous that someone could call McCain a war addict. It must have been those pleasant years in a P.O.W. camp in Vietnam that must have done it, right? I mean, who wouldn't love being held for years under the control of foreign enemies whose language you can't understand? I know I would have loved that!
Seriously people, learn a little respect.
Is Republican presidential candidate John McCain demonstrating his putative diplomatic skills today? Perhaps we can best describe Mr. McCain by paraphrasing Thomas Hobbes and say that here is a man "nasty, brutish and short" who, apparently, learned his manners at the Hanoi Hilton, not in the United States of America. Some men are made saints by their adversity; some men simply become swine through exposure to savagery.
Mere children insulting a war hero. They should be embarrassed.
Hey James in Phoenix, too bad if you don't like people asking tough questions to our so called "leaders". More should be asked, as often as possible.Orthodoxy is unconsciousness, period. It was anything but what our founding fathers had in mind. They questioned the authority of the Crown rightly so. We as a nation already have garnered a reputation for political complacency and conformist behavior and letting the rights of certain people disappear.
I'm not for anarchy, but it's healthy to question authority. I've got a brain, I intend on continuing to use it.
McCain has served his country with dignity and courage, calling him a war addict is shameful at best. I am a Muslim immigrant from a third world country. Please remember that your right to call a patriot of this country a war addict would get you killed in many other countries. This war addict fought for your right to have free speech and spent an eternity as a POW while trying to defend this right for you. Disagree with him if you must, that is your right, but by maligning him you only disgrace yourself.
Shahid Ali Rochester NY
yes, the child was being very immature to disrespect Sen McCain. McCain already has proved himself with his service to this country. I think it very unlikely that that kid will ever achieve as much with his life for the good of others as McCain has. That kid will grow up, and hopefully realize that showing this type of disrespect to others views is at the heart of it, the reason we have wars. I am socially liberal, but not close to being as arrogant as that little boy.
Joe in Fla,
You wrote, "“You want to take away someone’s rights because you believe it’s wrong,” Sleaster followed up.
“I don’t put that interpretation on my position, but I understand yours,” McCain responded, seeming to enjoy the back and forth.
What kind of disrespectful answer is that? "
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If you read the entire article you would see the part where this same student before walking away from the microphone said, "I came here looking to see a good leader, I don't".
Or do you, like many other out-of-control parents, encourage your kids to speak disrespectful to adults?
Did the kid have a legal right to speak his mind? Sure. Just as other people have legal rights to be bigoted and prejudiced – but I would certainly hope our society wouldn't APPLAUD this behavior.
He was caught off guard ! A person who can be caught off guard should not be President !
@ G Jones, Vista California.
Your position is flawed. Marriage laws grant basic rights to couples, in regards to tax benefits, medical benefits, visitation, child care, adoption, all of which is defined under federal law. I suggest you rethink your position on how "personal choice" factors into federal law.
I see nothing wrong with Sleaster saying what he did and I admire the young fellow for speaking up.
I think it's great that the kid got up and asked for what he wanted, unfiltered.
I don't think it's right to say disrespectful things to people however. It represents a lack of grace, something that our country has pretty much forgotten.
I commend McCain for trying to be as graceful as he knew how to under the circumstances, however I'm concerned that someone running for president hasn't at least heard the term GLBT, which represents 10% of our general population.
McCain is not afraid to face a tough audience, fast on his feet, and funny. The kid is somewhere south of 18 years and shows his immaturity, but you can bet that McCain values the kid's freedom of speech as much as anyone. It's interesting to see the rabid left unable to see the humor in McCain's response, any thereby confirm their small, closed minds.
There is a wide disparity among the posters on this thread. Some think McCain was wrong, others think the kid was wrong.
I think they were both wrong...McCain may have been trying to joke with the crowd (but it obviously was not received as such) but it certainly backfired on him.
There's a 55 year difference in their ages and I don't expect they could relate very well to each other in any kind of a setting. Plus, McCain is somewhat of a curmudgeon, anyway. But that doesn't excuse the rudeness or impudence of the student. Obviously he is representative of many kids today who have not been taught by their parents to respect anyone or anything. If that were my kid, I would be ashamed of him for speaking to ANYONE like that.
Nothing wrong with the kid saying what he did about expecting to see a good leader. Why is that wrong? It was his opinion, and he should be allowed his opinion. This is America.
The student was disrespectful, but if McCain can't take a little heat from a 16 yr. old with a little more grace he needs to get out of the political kitchen.
How dare a school administrator scold a person for expressing his opinion. When did we lose our right to do that just because of our age?
"Mr. McCain deserves an apology from the impertinent schoolboy. His intolerant attitude reflects poorly on a budget-bloated educational system that has produced a new generation of functionally illiterate, left-winged sheep."
Minds of young people are full of 'feel-good' liberal garbage these days. And yet they can't show respect for a man like McCain who was a WWII vet, a senator for many years and a presential candidate .
Frankly I'm shocked! That a presidential candidate would call anyone a jerk is not funny, I always thought Mc Cain was more respectful than that. Now I hear it's not the first time.
I mean, hell, you're running for the presidency of the country that all other countries look up to.
You then cannot allow others get to you no matter what.
And John, my response now after years of admiration is: It takes one to know one.
I am not surprised by Sleaster's barb at McCain. Our children are not taught to respect authority or adults. So, of course, he felt justified in attacking someone who has accomplished more in his life than Sleaster can hope to achieve. The other partis the completely misguided trend in our society. If you don't agree with me, your wrong. And not only are you wrong your a jerk for it. If you don't believe in gay rights/bilingual education/socialized medicine you are angry and/or evil. It is typical for liberal people. Attack any position as evil if it's contrary to yours
I don't consider that students comments "insulting". He gave McCain his opinion on him as a candidate. Did he HAVE to? Perhaps not, but I don't think he crossed any line. He was clearly displeased with McCain's stance on gay rights and McCain himself wasn't even rubbed wrong by the comment.
Thank you faith...I love the "bloated educational system" and "functionally illiterate, left-winged sheep" comments. Nice values system, but then what else can we expect from a judgemental right-wing nut job such as yourself?
Another thing...I'm NOT a Republican, nor a Democrat....and I didn't take any offense to McCain's "little jerk" comment. It was obviously made in jest, teasing the kid for asking him about his age. Maybe I more of sense of humor than most people, but I really think people need to lighten up.
Whenever a candidate or president does not have a legitimate answer to a question or comment, they always say: "thats what america is about..expressing your views". Whats the point of expressing our views if the politicians don't listen...ie...Bush, most Americans now oppose the war in Iraq and want our troops to come home...but he ain't listening. Is this Democracy? Bush keeps saying we have to win this war, no, HE has to win this war...otherwise is presidency is a complete failure. I know i got off the subject, but it just urks me.
Wow! This Sleaster gave me a real warm fuzzy on the future of our Nation. We are complety screwed. I hope his parents whether they are gay, lesbian, or straight are really proud of him.
You go Sleaster! Shame on the school official for scolding Sleaster for expressing his opinion – a free country?
Those kids have more courage than a lot of adults, they asked the questions, although I think the first kid asked just to be funny. I'm not a McCain fan... at all... but he was joking. It was a joke, lighten up.
The second kid probably was just angered by the response he got from McCain. His answer didn't make sense, it was hypocritical and the kid called him out. Right or wrong, it took a lot of guts to do what he did so props to all of them.
I'm not Americian and I don't live in the US, but I'm ashamed that a leading presidential candidate took a turn in a youngster for asking a perfectly legitimate question. This is something I would not have expected from Senator McCain and he should apologise to the youngster. That was not funny!!!
Well – Once again the strain shows on the Senator – Does he not take any medication regularly? Maybe he should talk to Tom Cruise? I love the way some jump on these kids but just sat there when W’s Ari Fleischer implied that anyone who disagreed was a traitor. Maybe these kids would have stopped this mess before it cost us all those lives and the financial health of thiscountry
I thought McCain's "you're drafted" comment was in reference to drafting the kid for his campaign, not the military.
But YMMV.
Thank god for kids like Sleaster....speaking truth to power!!!!.....all of you that say he was insulting are completely ridiculous. he did not call him a name or swear at him, he made his opinion known!!!....just because it does not fit your ideology does not make it disrespectful.....Keep it up kid!!!. remember it was this country that was founded on a group of "rebels" who had the audacity to buck authority and speak their truth!!!
This kid had evry right to say what he said but, he needs to look better because no matter if you are a Democrat or Republican Senator McCain is a great leader if you don't think so then look at his record and his service to our country. I do agree with the Senator this kid was a little ignorant jerk to say the least!!!
I teach high school. The kid did as high schoolers do, asked a rude question to show off for his friends. Mr. McCain answered the kids rude question and then gave the kid a jab back. Sometimes a child needs to be put in his place and Mr. McCain did it with humor. I find Mr. McCain's respone funny and feel sorry for those who are so thghtly strung that they don't see it for a quick-witted response to an inpertinent teen.
The United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Church, the Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches, and a substantial minority in the Episcopal, Methodist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran Churches, and Reform Jews *believe* in same-sex marriage. So, according to Senator McCain, we should take a head-count, and discriminate against *those* folks' beliefs because there are more Roman Catholics, Southern Baptists, and Mormons who *don't* believe in same-sex marriage? The Founders were students of history; they knew EXACTLY what "the tyranny of the majority" was, and inserted the Bill of Rights to protect minorities from it. Defining a Christian Sacrament is *not* the business of the State.
someone should have asked McCain why he is for giving away American jobs to illegal immigrants. After all thats what tanked his numbers in the polls.
Sleaster wanted attention, not answers. Following up an honest answer with a cheap strawman attack tells me that he planned to say it even before hearing McCain speak, particularly considering that his question didn't ask anything of McCain's position that hasn't already been stated. I don't care about Sleaster's personal opinions on McCain, I can form my own, and if I were in his position I'd have spent less of my breath on trying to look cool by insulting a Republican, and more on asking valuable, unanswered questions that the rest of us can gauge McCain's qualifications by.
It's probably not a good idea to use that kid's full name (unless it's mentioned somewhere in the report and I missed it) Some wacko might try and hurt the poor thing.
I have to admit I found the "little jerk" thing amusing. Only thumbs up I've been able to give McCain in a long, long time. Can't wait for Jeanne Moos to fit it into a story.
What is good for the goose is also good for the gander as the old saying goes. If McCain can call a student a 'jerk' and not be reprimanded by the school administrator why is it ok for the another student to be reprimanded because he said he didn't see a good leader from someone that answered the question with the following: I am opposed of discrimination but he supports Don't ask Don't tell and opposes gay marriage...shouldn't he have just said I don't discriminate except for 'them kind of folks'....(GLBT folks)..can you say contradictory statements and if you showed respect you may getrespect Mr McCain.
Kudos to all the students that asked questions even the hard questions.
Remember the statement from years gone by:
Question Authority........
Ouch! Snappy comeback, Mr. McCain.
YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
That "kid" is going to be more affected by the policies that whomever becomes president enacts than probably more than half the people complaining about him.
Here's to asking real questions and recognizing the most important part of politics- that it isn't just talking, but that it really, truly affects people's lives. When apathy is the most crippling disease in our schools something like this makes me proud.
It doesn't matter how old someone is. it is the way they handle themselves. A politician's only objective is to get re-elected.
"That little snotty kid owes the senator an apology. The federal government has not taken rights away from any LGBT. States may not grant marriage licenses and health care programs may not pay for the cost of a gender switch, but that has nothing to do with the federal government."
Posted By G Jones Vista CA
Clearly you are not smarter than a highschooler, maybe not even a 5th grader.
What the federal goverment does greatly affects the states b/c the federal government trumps the state. The reason the STATES don't have to recognized gay marriage is because of DOMA.
The FEDERAL defense of marriage act is a FEFERAL law from the clinton era. with out this FEDERAL law all 50 state would have to recognize all marriages conducted in Massachusetts not just the straight ones.
In general one state by FEDERAL law MUST "respect" (meaning give it weight and not dismiss) the laws of another state. That is why you can marry in CA and move to TX, CO, ND or any other state without issue. The state you move to MUST respect your marriage.
IT WAS FEDERAL LAW THAT TOOK THAT AWAY FROM GAY PEOPLE.
Whether you like it or not the Kid had point and you are looking not that bright
Kid was a snob. He and everyone not already in service that are physically capable SHOULD be drafted. If he's so concerened about the rights of everyone, he should go and fight for those rights, then maybe I would entertain his position and opinions a little more. I mean really, what does an 18 year old know about the world? Nothing. Kid probabley just had his first girlfriend within the last year or two.
I know something about McCain though. He was beaten and tortured for 7 years in Hanoi for that little "Parent-less" child who thought it wise to look suave in front of a school that probabley rejects him anyway. Queers aren't as accepted as alot of you left wingers may think.
Liberals. What a bunch of wimps. For those of you who don't know what "wimp" means, here's a little riddle for you: Weak In Mountain Phase. If you know what I'm talking about, you'll agree with me. Rangers Lead the Way – Followed closely by leg infantry and the M-1's!
"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."
- Theodore Roosevelt
Who knew – High Schoolers had the gull to ask questions grown ups don't have the guts to?
Way to go kids – give em hell!
Good show Sleaser, but be careful. Bush's cronies probably have you on some "special list" now....
Bravo,to the students who asked these questions. Thank goodness someone is!
McCain has joked about the war before and I find this man to be mentally unstable in how he reacts to certain situations.
In addition, he's a Bush clone and there's no way I want him leading this country!
The kid has a right to have an opinion but he also has a responsibility to be respectful. While I think it was a valid question he should have worded it better.
Also, to all of you questioning McCain's leadership, what leadership background do any of YOU have? This man was a former Naval Officer from one of the world's best military institutions. He has more experience as a military leader and as a leader in Congress than any of us will ever have. To disagree with his politics is one thing but to make such remarks about his leadership is ignorant.
I am not registered in either of the two major parties, and I'm not campaigning for McCain.
I do like how he handled himself at this event, though. All Americans need to learn a little about how to disagree with someone without being disagreeable. We really need to learn respect others whether or not we agree with their ideas.
Instead most Americans (evidenced by how many people cheered on this kid for insulting a politician they don't approve of) labor to validate their positions by merely insulting, ridiculing, and slinging mud at anyone with different ideas.
And to the person who mentioned that they would prefer this outspoken, but rude, young man to his quieter counterparts... I would say to you that the more you talk, the less you think.
While it is possible this young man is brilliant, diplomatic, and eloquent with a bright future ahead of him, I am confident that among the quieter students you will find kids with more wisdom and more potential.
Also, with MTV, Hollywood, and other media outlets insuring that BGLT issues are 'in', I don't find it the slightest bit impressive that a high school kid comes up with something like this to talk about.
Show me a high school kid with informed opinions on international issues beyond just "War is bad", show me a kid who has some understanding of the social security predicament, show me a kid who has thought about the problems plaguing our nation and the world in general, a kid who cares about solving these problems and bringing people together more than just being the center of attention and demonstrating his or her 'coolness' and 'strength' by disrespecting those in authority... And I'll show you our future.
I love Democracy. It's a beautiful thing with unlimited potential... in either direction. When voters are uneducated and unaware of ALL the major issues (awareness of one issue is not enough), it spells doom for a democracy.
I hate to tell you this, but just like our politicians, just like us, this generation of kids is just more of the same. It is going to take a leader who comes from outside of the system to help wake us all up... And honestly I hope we don't have to wait 20 years for the high school students of today to get old enough to run.
We need change now. We need large-scale reconciliation now.
Not at all impressed by that statement.
States have to respect the laws of other states, sure, but it works both ways, bud. One state's laws do not trump other state's laws. If the age of consent in your state is 12, and you (pretend you're 30+) decide to bring your 13 year old girlfriend to my state and have sex somewhere... You're breaking the law in my state. If you want to be governed by the laws of your state, STAY in your state.
Why can't people see that having more powerful states would be a great thing for this country? In fact, this was the way things were intended to be. With 40% of the country passionately hating another 40% of the country, and vice versa... with opinions on many issues being diametrically opposed and unresolvable, it would be in the best interests of everyone if states made policy on these divisive issues.
All one would have to do is move to a state that has the right laws for their pet issues. Case closed.
There would be so much less hatred and infighting when people finally stopped feeling that their rights were being threatened by others.
Oh, and another thing that we have conveniently forgot about the Constitution and our original system... In the general election the first place winner was named President, and the second place finisher was named Vice President. Just think of how much less divisive national elections would be under that system. Currently, HALF of the American people feel unrepresented in the White House EVERY election, but under the original system people would no longer cease to feel represented.
This would do a great deal to ease tensions in our country, and begin to bring us all back together.
If someone did this to Shrillary we would be hearing from the sheep that he was a "right-wing plant" or some snotty kid "that can't handle a strong woman".
McCain was kidding with the kid who got to say his disrespectful piece probably prodded by his parents.
No big deal, he was kidding with the kid, non-story.
I'm far from a McCain supporter, but I don't see anything wrong with the way that he interacted with these students. I disagree with his views on the LGBT community and find it difficult to believe that he needed the acronym to be clarified, but it's not shocking given the views that most Republicans have on LGBTs. If your core voters are opposed and you agree with them, why explore the community any more than you have to, right? Not in favor, but I understand.
As for the "little jerk...you're drafted" comment, are you people kidding? Who cares? It was funny and even if you didn't find humor, that was the intent. McCain is one of the few Republicans that I've seen on Jon Stewart and he's been on there numerous times. His banter with Stewart is always good for entertainment since their views usually don't mesh. On the Daily Show, he uses much of the same types of tongue-in-cheek comments to reach an audience that includes many individuals from high school.
Lastly, as for the Sleaster comments, I applaud the student & McCain for his back and forth. The last comment might have been over the line, but I don't think it was entirely inappropriate. I think that McCain's attempts to claim that he doesn't discriminate, but then endorses policies of discrimination such as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and banning gay marriage is hypocritical and Sleaster called him on it. It's good that leaders realize why people disagree with them and is something that Bush could take a few notes on, seeing how he bans anyone with differing opinions from even being in his sight when speaking. The fact that the student was scolded by an adminstrator is pathetic, too. I could understand if Sleaster cursed or did something that violated school policy, but stating that you're not impressed with someone's leadership abilities should be encouraged if you're not impressed. Part of the problem with our political system is that we're allowing politicians to isolate themselves from the dissent that exists to the point that many politicians don't seem to understand how many disagree with them and for what reasons.
How many here that are defending this kid's first amendment rights support 'hate speech' legislation which denies those rights to others with differing views than your own?
I personally consider the incorrect usage of there, when it should be their or they're offensive. Improper use of to, too and two offends me as well.
The folks that fail to see McCain's use of 'little jerk' as a humorous attempt need to take a week off, pop a top, put on some good tunes and chill for a while.
The kid's remark was in poor taste, but he's a kid. If it were my kid, he'd get a quick tune-up when he got home and hopefully learm a lesson about showing respect. But again, he's just a kid. Maybe he got a date for Friday's football game because he made such a 'kewl' comment.
Lighten up and enjoy life,
The student did nothing wrong. He should be commended, not punished. He asked tough questions. If McCain can't take the heat, he should get out of the kitchen. It is McCain who should be punished for name calling, which is completely inappropriate, as is "joking" about the draft. But then Republicans are accustomed to making up their own rules.
Young people like these New Hampshire students who question authority give me hope for the future. Their families and school system should be proud.
I often wonder, do Gay and Lesbian parents expect their children to grow up to be gay or lesbian too? Or do they support their hetero children with the same vigor as their gay children? (An honest question, because I don't know much about the GL community.)
Curious, California : September 4, 2007 5:17 pm
From all interactions that I've had with LGBTs, they encourage people to "be yourself" and just want the same respect in return. I can't think of one anecdote about gay couples who adopt or have children by other means where the child has been encouraged to be anything other than his/herself. Gays believe that you are born a homosexual, so no amount of encouragement could turn their straight child gay even if they wanted.
Tamara from Concord High School's English shows how the dumbing down of American has hurt our education system. Like so many others (school kids and most adults as well), she doesn't have the best spelling and grammar. And we just can't teach our kids the difference between "there," "their," and "they're." Sheesh–it's elementary school stuff that high school graduates can't even learn. Such a shame, the education system in our country. Tamara, you should have used "their."
Posted By Mark, Sacramento, CA : September 4, 2007 5:54 pm
If you're going to comment about grammar and how the educational system is so lacking, you might want to re-read your own post. Sentences almost never are correctly started with "And" (as yours shows) and for the other bolded part, all proper sentences require a verb.
I occasionally find myself making the "their" mistake in email and blogs. It's never a sign of lack of grammatical knowledge on my part, just a lack of proofreading and becoming so accustomed to typing too quickly.
Oh, Derrick, of Austin, TX (@3:46), can you not read? Is he not of the current generation matriculating? That is the collective to whom I refer: those who are dummying-down our culture with their 'clever' texting and other media-influenced intellect corrosives. Wipe the froth from your lips, take a deep breath, and please, man, think beyond your indoctrination.
Let's assume for a moment that the "little kid" was a "jerk". Wasn't it encouraging that the Senator chose the high road? Just another revelation that McKain is a big "jerk" if he expects to have any voter take him seriously!
This is not about the right to free speech, its about showing some respect for someone who deserves it.
Hey I'm 25 and don't particularly agree with McCain's views, but I would have shown him a lot more respect than that sleazeball kid. There was a more respectful way of stating his opinion of McCain's views.
Hasn't Baghdad John drifted off into oblivion yet?
Rick – Chicago,
You said, "So much for free speech then eh? "
No one would expect a blind partisan hack from Chicago to understand many of us don't approve of teenage punks insulting our country leaders. But IMAGINE, Rick, for just a minute... that we ALL live in a free country to express our beliefs. Sleazer can be disrespectful...and those of us who are appauled can write in comments on a blog.
WHERE exactly did anyone lose their free speech rights, Ricky?
Mike – NYC
You wrote, "I'm not for anarchy, but it's healthy to question authority. I've got a brain, I intend on continuing to use it."
Mike – it wasn't Sleazer's question that was rude. It was his parting comment "I came looking to see a leader. I don't" – which is uncalled for.
What's absolutely amazing is the clouded judgement most of you seem to have – applauding this insulant behavior. Again – it's ok to have a DIALOGUE that is respectful...but demeaning personal insults (especially coming from a kid to one of the few POW/Veteran and seemingly honest political leaders) – crosses the line of decency.
But – we'll just count you in the "Kewl Dude" column.
Bukky wrote,
"IT WAS FEDERAL LAW THAT TOOK THAT AWAY FROM GAY PEOPLE."
Bukky, I'm a single straight guy. I can't marry another man either. I CAN marry a woman.
Bukky – are YOU allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex just like me?
Again – WHERE have gays lost any rights? Cause it looks like the same rules apply to me (straight) that applies to you (gay).
What are the real chances of any of these little brats actually voting anyway - the ones who will be of age to, that is?
A few things to say...
#1 This kid should have already known Senator McCain's stance on this subject. It's been known for years. The fact that the Senator hasn't changed his opinion in a decade shouldn't shock the kid.
#2 Why are people saying that Senator McCain is so full of it? I feel that he is, but so is every other candidate. So spare me that argument.
#3 The kid disrespected the Senator, and the Senator fired back with his own version of sarcasm. So guess what, they are even. This is blown way out of proportion.
#4 Personal opinion should be left out of politics. Sure McCain disagrees with gay marriage, but there should be something in law that states that the economic benefits obtained from marriage should be allowed for same-sex couples who wish to do so...
Brent,
I voted in the midterm the fall after I turned 18 and have voted in all elections since.
Most years, the older folks vote because they feel it's a duty that comes with citizenship. In 2008, from the comments I'm hearing from the under 30 crowd, they'll be out voting, not out of duty, but because they're so irate about how the US is being run. They see the future problems that our government's actions are causing (global warming, lack of international support, the choice between insurance or planning for retirement )and see how they will be directly affecting them in the next 20-40 years when all the people who are making these decisions will be dead and unaffected by the consequences.
I'm a high schooler at Concord High School and actually shown in this clip behind John McCain. The comment "little jerk" was actually quite funny. I'm a peer of the student who asked the question and thought it was funny as well as the eniter aduience.
BRAVO TO THE STUDENTS!!
BOO TO MCCAIN!!