September 7, 2007
Posted: September 7th, 2007 02:41 PM ET

Giuliani wants to redefine the war on terror, he said Friday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said that the current “War on Terror” should be called the “Islamic Terrorist War on Us” at an event Friday in Florida commemorating victims killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

“I don’t think we should call it the ‘War on Terror,’’ Giuliani told the audience. “I think we should call it the ‘Terrorist War on Us’ or if we want the ‘Islamic Terrorist War on Us,’ because that’s what it is. Whether we like it or not, whether it’s politically correct or not to say that.”

Giuliani went on to say that the country has had problems recognizing threats.

“America has had more problems underestimating the dangers that we face,” Giuliani said, “We’ve never really overestimated.”

Related video: CNN's Bill Schneider looks at the politics of the war on terror.

Related: Edwards calls Bush terror policy a 'failure'

-- CNN Political Ticker Producer Xuan Thai

Filed under: Rudy Giuliani


Tricia M Charlottetown PEI   September 9th, 2007 12:23 pm ET

Kudos Linda Carpenter, Phoenix, Arizona

I agree. And there isn't a Candidate more unqualified for holding the office of President than Giuliani. Errr well unless by some possible eroneous Constitutional Veto, George gets to run again!

Linda Carpenter, Phoenix, Arizona   September 9th, 2007 11:08 am ET

Rudy is a war profiteer who rented the 23rd floor of the Trade Center for a command center from a crony! He did not protect firefighters with decent technology nor did he protect their health . He is a liar and a fascist, not even his own children respect.
Now what kind of president would that be? Even worse than the one we have now. He made millions of dollars off of his so called' securiity ' contracts. He brings nothing positive to America.

eric, Atlanta GA   September 9th, 2007 3:26 am ET

People who vote for Giuliani are just voting to burn the constitution.

Greg Bartlett, IL   September 8th, 2007 10:32 pm ET

Unfortunately, Republican leaders have always proven themselves to be basically and intellectually incompetant to govern this country, especially in it's foreign policy. What we need is to start respecting leaders that are educated, knowlegable, and have proven themselves to be above the 1800s mentality of the conservative Republican that cloaks it's immorality in religion and patriotism, both of which they have very little of... The world will respect us more when we have proved ourselves to be not just a loose cannon force controlled by barbarians from another century, but a country to be reckoned with because of it's intelligence, power, and sense of justice. When will we learn that rolling your eyes toward the sky and intoning about how religious you are is no substitute for rational thought, decency, and leadership capibility?

KHYYAMM, Waterbury, Conn.   September 8th, 2007 7:32 pm ET

"The Giuliani plan did not have any effect. It was money in the trash, really," said a police officer patrolling the central square here earlier this month, Nicocio Acosto Leon. "Better to buy arms, uniforms, to fix our vehicles because we have to do that ourselves."
Yeah, Giuliani tried to woo the Mexican gov.. A big fanfare for nothing! Read the full story:http://www.nysun.com/article/11973.
If this is any indication about his affectivness, Forget it!

susan   September 8th, 2007 12:16 pm ET

Rudy's going to be in trouble with conservatives for what he said on Glenn Beck:

http://news.aol.com/elections-blog/2007/09/08/rudys-right-on-immigration/

Pixie, Murfreesboro, TN   September 8th, 2007 2:21 am ET

I'm trying to find out how SECULAR IRAQ became a central front on the "Islamic Terrorist War on US".

Stephen, Charlottesville, VA   September 7th, 2007 10:47 pm ET

It's interesting that he spends so much effort to try to call it "the terrorists' war against us" which would suggest we're playing defense, yet at the same time, he's so determined to tell everyone we should go on offense. Even semantically his positions don't make sense.

Tricia M Charlottetown PEI   September 7th, 2007 10:44 pm ET

Giuliani's only credential for this campaign is the Great image he perceives himself to be. The truth is he is so full of himself he couldn't possibly think of anyone else let alone serve a Nation. His I Am A Hero deserving recognition line is what dreams are made of.

Cary - Lowell, IN   September 7th, 2007 10:10 pm ET

MS in Tennessee,

actually the right phrase is " There you go again.", said by Ronald Reagan to Jimmy Carter in an Oct. 80 debate, in which the latter falsely accused Reagan of opposing Medicare.

xtina chicago IL   September 7th, 2007 9:10 pm ET

Most candidates say they'll be tough on Islamic radicals plotting to destroy America, but Mayor Giuliani has experience that shows he's effective in crime-fighting.

Mayor Giuliani reduced gun crime in New York City by 75 per cent during his time as Mayor.

Andrew, Washington DC   September 7th, 2007 8:22 pm ET

I've only read one intelligent comment on this so far. This is a war against Western Civilation. Not just the U.S. That is why Israel is a target, that is why London, Spain, Bali, Scotland and India have been targets. You want just one, salient example of how this is a war on Western ideals? The Dutch Muhammad (sp?) cartoons. For the inexcusable crime of freely expressing a opinion, which is a crime to hardline Muslims (go figure), they riot in the streets and burn embassies and businesses. There was even a PBS special (something you CNN viewers probably ignored because it negates what you want to believe) that pinpoints the father of modern Islamic terrorism, a guy who was so offended by a church dance in Greeley, Colorado, where men and women danced together and made merry. Your ignorance is clearly chosen, not innocent.

Oh, PS, Saddam had terrorist leaders in his freaking Parliament. Give it a rest

RB   September 7th, 2007 8:20 pm ET

Rudy, you've milked 9/11 for all it's worth. You're a one-trick pony.

What else do you have to offer?

Cara, Harrisonburg VA   September 7th, 2007 7:44 pm ET

First of all, no where in this article does it state that ANYONE believes that "all muslims are terrorists". Secondly, congratulations to those of you in the "Democratic Death Wish" party (cheers to whoever coined that phrase) who are privy to some sort of classified information that the rest of us are not...Oh that's right, you get all of your information from DNN. Check the records of some of your folks in office. They also at one point seemed to believe there was reason for us to be in Iraq other than the "greed and personal vendetta" claims that you all are constantly spewing. Remember the murdering tyrant that we removed from office? Can you say Democracy? If we are not there to fight terrorists, we sure seem to have stumbled upon a heck of a large pocket of them. Anyone listening to the rhetoric from Iran these days? These people hate us! They are bent on destroying us and our way of life (even our right to disagree on the political ticker). This won't stop once we leave the middle east, nor would it have been any different had we never gone. To the individual who stated "cut the crap with the patriotic nonsense", you are welcome to relocate.

Ron Nebraska   September 7th, 2007 7:23 pm ET

Hey, and what's with those Germans treating the threat of terrorism like a criminal action? Don't they know that is a ridiculous way to approach this struggle? Shouldn't they have gone a few blocks over and blown up a Flipino community? Amateurs!!!!

Izzy, Queens New York   September 7th, 2007 7:02 pm ET

These republican candidates are living on an imaginary cloud if they are under the pitifully despicable illusion that attempting to spread fear by way of blowing out of proportion or over-emphasizing terrorist threats would help them win the up-coming elections. Mayor Julieani, you better lace your boots properly and begin to campaign on tangbile issues, better begin to articulate your positions properly and expressing them concisely and succintly to the public because al these baseless fear-mongering is not going to get you elected.

And that goes for all the other clowns wasting their time. Fred Thompson doesn;t stand a chance, America hasn;t elected a bald President in recent past.

The only sensible republican is Huckabee. He is the least fascist.

Ron Nebraska   September 7th, 2007 6:46 pm ET

The 'War on Terror' Is an extremely simplistic notion that when looked at rationally is seen to be no more than a manipulative tool used by intellectually dishonest power brokers. A 'War on Terror' has absolutely no chance for success because terror is a TACTIC employed by an enemy. To win that sort of war you'd have to kill every member of the group that uses that tactic while not making more members willing to also use terror as a means of war. We are not doing that because our shortsighted and criminally insane leaders need that constant manipulation available to them. Once we elect rational sane people who will recognize the problem of mideast terror requires more than a military solution the sooner we can be on the road to success.

MS Johnson City, TN   September 7th, 2007 6:22 pm ET

As Reagan used to say, "Here we go again..."

Mr. Giuliani thinks that by spreading fear and spewing out hatred he would win the nomination. He has lot of competition with that approach. This leaves the path to nomination wide open for Ron Paul, who not only has figured out the problem, but also has a logical and simple solution. And the solution is “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

Comprende?

Izzy, Queens New York   September 7th, 2007 6:16 pm ET

This is a man that obviously lacks common sense. His pandering is unbelieveable. 9/11 happened because of the sloppiness of the republican government in place at that point in time. BUSH HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 11 MONTHS. Mayor Juliani had been in office for a long period of time, so what the heck is he on about. If anything, he should be culpable for slow response and trying to shamelessly capitalize on the deaths of 3,000 people to win a nomination.

And by the way why the heck was he smiling so strangely during the debate, revealing painfully yellow teeth and a disturbingly wrinked face? His teeth looked as if they were gonna fly into my living room.

Raymond, El Paso TX   September 7th, 2007 5:33 pm ET

Josue Romano, Buena Park, CA
I'm a Democrat AND a Christian but your thought process scares me! BTW, before somebody tells me that you can't be a Democrat and a Christian, that's why I vote according to my conscience and it just so happens that I am more aligned with the fundamental Democratic party principles than the Republican's. If somebody wants to believe in Allah, Buddha or whatever God they want, even if it's no God at all, that is a personal decision and a personal choice. That is something they must live with but I DO NOT have the right to impose my will on anyone. Which leads me to my next point.

Cara, Harrisonburg VA
This is America and our country is based on laws and the Constitution! This is also what gives everyone the right to voice their opinion and question our own government.

But PLEASE do not tell me that because I don't believe in the Iraq war that I am unpatriotic or not supporting our troops. Of course everyone supports our troops! You would have to be a fool to not know they put their life on the line for this country, no matter what we as individuals think think. In fact, if Democrats completely take over in the next election, guess what, that same Constitution also gives you the right to question our government.

I think you also need to do some research. Iraq wasn't the one that attacked us. If Bush had only gone into Afghanistan and punished those who did kill our people, I don't think we would be in the mess we're in.

In fact, we had the support of the entire world! But NOOOOO! In our so-called leader's infinite wisdom, we chose to ignore the facts, underestimate the Iraqis, overextend our troops, and wound up getting almost the entire Islamic world to unite against us. Do you honestly believe they didn't see, given our history, that there were ulterior motives to that country's invasion?

Do you really not think it's time for a change, discontinue our "death to anyone that doesn't agree with us" mentality and show the world that as a nation, we're not really as evil and greedy as we've demonstrated?

Andrew, NJ   September 7th, 2007 5:19 pm ET

Why do people give Giulliani so much credit for being a terror fighter?

Why does he get so much credit for failing to prevent the attack? Did any official who slept through the Pearl Harbor attack run for president?

Any mayor would have done the same things that Rudy did. Althought they would probably be smart enough to avoid putting the main office into a building that they were warned would get attacked.

And it has been proven time and time again that Rudy didn't do much post 9/11...and that his claim to be a crime fighter is false too, since New York pulled itself up at the same rate as the national average.

Ed,Ellenville,New York   September 7th, 2007 4:57 pm ET

How about religious fundamentalist theocracy? War of religion upon religion has no better side.Both are at fault regardless of whose turn it is.Rudy clearly favors his own,as many of his supporters do,and because of that he's doomed to fight the pointless fight forever.Mentally deficient logic like that has no place in our politics.

bret, atl, ga   September 7th, 2007 4:45 pm ET

All of you people talking about the global islamic war on everyone, think about what you are advocating. Are you seriously, genuinely saying there should be an extermination of muslims?

You know, somebody named Hitler tried that once. A couple other guys named Stalin and Pol Pot tried it as well. NONE OF THEM SUCCEEDED.

If you think diplomacy is foolish, you need to think again. You cannot kill a tactic; and the alternative (murdering them all) is something no human being should ever advocate, and if you do I fear for your soul.

Steve,Portland, OR   September 7th, 2007 4:40 pm ET

Commenting on a comment. Since when did this President ever use diplomacy? Maybe I missed something this guy did that wasn't a threat or fear tactic?

Lyons Steve   September 7th, 2007 4:37 pm ET

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Two: Perhaps the anniversary of 9/11 would be a good time for you people to recall what these terrorists did to OUR OWN innocent citizens…with no apologies.
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EVERYONE knows what they did, Dimbulb. Since the terrorists killed 3,100 Americans, and we've killed over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, I'd say we've done the best we could. In fact, I say that makes Bush and Cheney war criminals.

You see, Dimbulb, there never was a reason to go to Iraq. Bush never planned to capture bin Laden. The guy simply pops up in public whenever Bush/Cheney need to re-terrorize the country.

In my opinion, Cheney is a worst terrorist than bin Laden. The jerk lied about intelligence, outed a CIA agent, has made billions for his company Halliburton, a corporation that deserves the death penalty if ever there was one.

Now, our soldiers are dying for NOTHING. Fighting in Iraq has zero to do with 9-11. It was a planned exercise by the far right to (1) get some free oil, and (2) get rid of those pesky civil liberties that the fascist right has never liked.

It's sad to see people like you, too brainwashed to face reality.

/***
No one likes war…but no one said that this one would be an easy fix either. Any loss of life (ANY! Ours or theirs) is tragic–but you people who galavant around with your Kumbaya solutions are doing a disservice to the brave men and women who are over there PROTECTING YOU AND I!!!
***/

The only ones doing a disservice to our brave soldiers fighting for NOTHING are braindead people like yourself. You, and all of you that support this illegal, B.S. war – YOU'RE the ones doing a disservice.

As for Kumbaya, it's better than Redneck Hatred, which is all your ilk is capable of.

Bob, San Francisco, CA   September 7th, 2007 4:28 pm ET

CARA-
The soldiers serving bravely in Iraq ARE NOT fighting for our freedoms and protection. I'm sure that's what they want to do, and that's probably why most enlisted, but they have been used as tools so business interests can take root in Iraq.
Please cut the crap with the patriotic nonsense when it's not the truth. Had we gone after the real threat for real, like Osama and his ilk, then they WOULD be fighting for our protection.
The war plans for Iraq were laid out before 9-11. All but the most pathetic of neocons have dropped the lame attempt to tie the war in Iraq with 9-11. Yes, there are many more terrorists in the world now who wish us harm, but maybe if we handled things more intelligently in the past, this wouldn't be the case.

Tom - Dedham, Mass   September 7th, 2007 4:26 pm ET

I thought it was just a bumper sticker?

Oh wait, German authorities just nabbed 3 converted muslim extremist dirtbags that had weapons and plans to blow up some US installations in honor of 9-11 (more are being pursued by authorities) and in Florida (also this week) 2 muslim extremists (a pattern here???) were nabbed with pipe bombs near the Navy base.

While the MSM was choosing to give wall to wall coverage on that idiot Craig sticking his piggies where they don't belong, these more important stories either get glossed over (Germany) or not reported at all (Florida).

Yeah , I know and agree Bush sucks, but guess what, we should be united on killing these bastards and you kumbya singers just want to ignore it, kiss their asses or sit down and find out what "we did wrong" so we can understand why they want to kill us.

Will you all be so upset if it turns out that these were thwarted using cameras or heaven forbid, wiretapping of overseas phone calls, or oh double no, we used some barking dogs to get information?

Ignoring the threat or believing old mindsets won't make it go away.

As for blaming Bush because nobody supposedly hated us until January, 2000, how do you account for the 6-8 US installation bombings or the first WTC bombing while Billy boy was in office?

As for you sheep who also only believe people that served can discuss these matters, I did VOLUNTEER proudly, 1981-1987.

Hugs.

RA The Framing Wizard   September 7th, 2007 4:22 pm ET

Good for you Rudy Giuliani; GO FOR IT! You just keep on defending the war in Iraq and our fight against terrorism and the muslin leaders; that are try to kill as many infidels as they possibly can. I say round up all muslins and all their leaders here in the United States. Just like our country did with all the Japanese during WWII. Place all muslins in a safe area until we rid our country of their domination to control.

Cary - Lowell, IN   September 7th, 2007 4:05 pm ET

someone in SD,
it is the policy of the US military to avoid giving number of enemy casualities during a war.

Cary - Lowell,IN   September 7th, 2007 4:04 pm ET

A lot more candidates at the republican debates are naming radical Islam as our enemy; not many democratic candidates are. Why is that?

Pete, Alexandria, VA   September 7th, 2007 3:59 pm ET

"The catch-all phrase, 'War on Terrorism,' in all honesty, has no more meaning than if one wants to wage a war against criminal gangsterism. It’s deliberately vague and non definable to justify and permit perpetual war anywhere, and under any circumstances."
-Ron Paul

Marcia, Boulder, Colorado   September 7th, 2007 3:56 pm ET

I have had it with hearing that the troops in Iraq are "protecting" me. Iraq was no threat until we made it one by invading. I respect our volunteer soldiers and don't blame them for the carnage in Iraq, but they have been sold a bill of goods by neocon power-grabbers who capitalized on our shock and fear after 911 to get us to agree to the invasion. The soldiers I honor most are those like the ones who risked their careers last month in the Washington Post to rebut the irresponsible "surge is working" propaganda.

Anonymous   September 7th, 2007 3:55 pm ET

We are fighting an islamic insurgency, not a war on terror. This self-described terrorism expert neads to do a little more studying on the subject.

Jim, Northbrook IL   September 7th, 2007 3:47 pm ET

Cara,

You're missing the point. The people that attached us were led by Osama Bin Forgotten, who is relaxing comfortably in a cave somewhere in Pakistan. In fact, the majority of these people were Saudis and, if my facts are correct, none were Iraqi. As the Iraq Study group found, there was no sign of Al Qaida in Iraq before we invaded. As they also found, we are now less safe because we have given THEM an additional front from which to wage war on us, as well as inciting other insurgent groups to take up arms agains us as the occupying force. All independent groups that review this foreign policy disaster agree that we are now less safe. They also agree that we never had a plan for keeping peace, rebuilding Iraq, and at the very least, leaving! The GAO found that Iraq is making very little progress – violence is up this year and the leaders have failed to make an strides (missing 11 of 18 Bush benchmarks). It's time to leave and fight the real culprits of 9/11.

Justin, NY, NY   September 7th, 2007 3:44 pm ET

Wow, that's an ignorant statement on so many levels. What about the terrorist attacks in London and Bali and everywhere else around the world. Islamic terror isn't solely directed at America, and it certainly isn't only Islamic radicals behind it all. FORMER MAYOR Giuliani is in no way shape or form accomplished, experienced or intelligent enough to lead this country into the future. I hope this becomes more and more evident to voters as we move forward in this election process.

Pat, Huntington, NY   September 7th, 2007 3:44 pm ET

What would expect from someone with ZERO foreign policy experience? He's no diplomat that's for sure. He's disgusting!

Gaurav, Miami, FL   September 7th, 2007 3:36 pm ET

No its not! Its really the "Islamic Terrorist War on Everybody Else" not just the US. Until leaders (and the common people) in this country start thinking in those terms they have not even come to grips with the real problem let alone begun to solve it. Islamic terror has been hurting the world for decades before reaching American shores in 2001, when the US belatedly woke up and immediately turned it into an American problem. Its a global problem sadly ignored by America for too long.

Cara, Harrisonburg VA   September 7th, 2007 3:19 pm ET

One: Okay kids...this I'm sure a specific reply to a specific question. Here is a crazy thought: If you want to know where people stand on issues, um, you might have to do some legwork of your own. It's called research.

Two: Perhaps the anniversary of 9/11 would be a good time for you people to recall what these terrorists did to OUR OWN innocent citizens...with no apologies. No one likes war...but no one said that this one would be an easy fix either. Any loss of life (ANY! Ours or theirs) is tragic–but you people who galavant around with your Kumbaya solutions are doing a disservice to the brave men and women who are over there PROTECTING YOU AND I!!! You are kidding yourselves if you think that diplomacy works with these people.

John, Ca.   September 7th, 2007 3:19 pm ET

It's a war on ALL Western nations, you ethno-centric boob!

Sérgio, Porto, Portugal   September 7th, 2007 3:10 pm ET

What a bs article? So he called other thing? WOW....What's the big deal of the definition? Gosh when people worry about things like that, something must be bloody wrong?

Now..not every Islamic person is a terrorist, so to call that just show how dumb he is.

LoserLarry   September 7th, 2007 3:08 pm ET

Oh, are people trying to kill us?

Josue Romano, Buena Park, CA   September 7th, 2007 3:01 pm ET

Its true! we are fighting a religion wether we like it or not, that's what it is and this is why we are not going to win this war unless "Christians" unite together and fight. The only way we will win this war is if we make it Faith againts Faith and the Jews should stand with us for their own interest.

someone, SD, CA   September 7th, 2007 2:56 pm ET

How many innocent Islamic people have Us killed so far in this "War on Terror" or "Islamic Terroist War on Us" as this fascist calleed? Beside War and 9/11, does he know anything else?

bret, atl, ga   September 7th, 2007 2:50 pm ET

He hasn't even given a plan for defeating islamic terrorism / extremism. Clearly bombing them hasn't been working so hot, has it?

Maybe we should listen to Ron Paul and start trading with them peacefully, like we did Germany, Vietnam, Russia, etc? Gosh, that sure does sound crazy, I mean, it WORKED BEFORE and stuff!

Dalton, Detroit MI   September 7th, 2007 2:46 pm ET

C'mon Giuliani you have to give the American people more than a plan for defeating terrorist. Where is your plan for social security, health care, education, infrastructure, the economy.

The one trick pony routine is becoming tired and overplayed

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