September 7th, 2007
02:41 PM ET
11 years ago

Giuliani defines the war on terror

Giuliani wants to redefine the war on terror, he said Friday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said that the current “War on Terror” should be called the “Islamic Terrorist War on Us” at an event Friday in Florida commemorating victims killed in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

“I don’t think we should call it the ‘War on Terror,’’ Giuliani told the audience. “I think we should call it the ‘Terrorist War on Us’ or if we want the ‘Islamic Terrorist War on Us,’ because that’s what it is. Whether we like it or not, whether it’s politically correct or not to say that.”

Giuliani went on to say that the country has had problems recognizing threats.

“America has had more problems underestimating the dangers that we face,” Giuliani said, “We’ve never really overestimated.”

Related video: CNN's Bill Schneider looks at the politics of the war on terror.

Related: Edwards calls Bush terror policy a 'failure'

– CNN Political Ticker Producer Xuan Thai

Filed under: Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (45 Responses)
  1. Dalton, Detroit MI

    C'mon Giuliani you have to give the American people more than a plan for defeating terrorist. Where is your plan for social security, health care, education, infrastructure, the economy.

    The one trick pony routine is becoming tired and overplayed

    September 7, 2007 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  2. bret, atl, ga

    He hasn't even given a plan for defeating islamic terrorism / extremism. Clearly bombing them hasn't been working so hot, has it?

    Maybe we should listen to Ron Paul and start trading with them peacefully, like we did Germany, Vietnam, Russia, etc? Gosh, that sure does sound crazy, I mean, it WORKED BEFORE and stuff!

    September 7, 2007 02:50 pm at 2:50 pm |
  3. someone, SD, CA

    How many innocent Islamic people have Us killed so far in this "War on Terror" or "Islamic Terroist War on Us" as this fascist calleed? Beside War and 9/11, does he know anything else?

    September 7, 2007 02:56 pm at 2:56 pm |
  4. Josue Romano, Buena Park, CA

    Its true! we are fighting a religion wether we like it or not, that's what it is and this is why we are not going to win this war unless "Christians" unite together and fight. The only way we will win this war is if we make it Faith againts Faith and the Jews should stand with us for their own interest.

    September 7, 2007 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  5. LoserLarry

    Oh, are people trying to kill us?

    September 7, 2007 03:08 pm at 3:08 pm |
  6. Sérgio, Porto, Portugal

    What a bs article? So he called other thing? WOW....What's the big deal of the definition? Gosh when people worry about things like that, something must be bloody wrong?

    Now..not every Islamic person is a terrorist, so to call that just show how dumb he is.

    September 7, 2007 03:10 pm at 3:10 pm |
  7. John, Ca.

    It's a war on ALL Western nations, you ethno-centric boob!

    September 7, 2007 03:19 pm at 3:19 pm |
  8. Cara, Harrisonburg VA

    One: Okay kids...this I'm sure a specific reply to a specific question. Here is a crazy thought: If you want to know where people stand on issues, um, you might have to do some legwork of your own. It's called research.

    Two: Perhaps the anniversary of 9/11 would be a good time for you people to recall what these terrorists did to OUR OWN innocent citizens...with no apologies. No one likes war...but no one said that this one would be an easy fix either. Any loss of life (ANY! Ours or theirs) is tragic–but you people who galavant around with your Kumbaya solutions are doing a disservice to the brave men and women who are over there PROTECTING YOU AND I!!! You are kidding yourselves if you think that diplomacy works with these people.

    September 7, 2007 03:19 pm at 3:19 pm |
  9. Gaurav, Miami, FL

    No its not! Its really the "Islamic Terrorist War on Everybody Else" not just the US. Until leaders (and the common people) in this country start thinking in those terms they have not even come to grips with the real problem let alone begun to solve it. Islamic terror has been hurting the world for decades before reaching American shores in 2001, when the US belatedly woke up and immediately turned it into an American problem. Its a global problem sadly ignored by America for too long.

    September 7, 2007 03:36 pm at 3:36 pm |
  10. Pat, Huntington, NY

    What would expect from someone with ZERO foreign policy experience? He's no diplomat that's for sure. He's disgusting!

    September 7, 2007 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  11. Justin, NY, NY

    Wow, that's an ignorant statement on so many levels. What about the terrorist attacks in London and Bali and everywhere else around the world. Islamic terror isn't solely directed at America, and it certainly isn't only Islamic radicals behind it all. FORMER MAYOR Giuliani is in no way shape or form accomplished, experienced or intelligent enough to lead this country into the future. I hope this becomes more and more evident to voters as we move forward in this election process.

    September 7, 2007 03:44 pm at 3:44 pm |
  12. Jim, Northbrook IL


    You're missing the point. The people that attached us were led by Osama Bin Forgotten, who is relaxing comfortably in a cave somewhere in Pakistan. In fact, the majority of these people were Saudis and, if my facts are correct, none were Iraqi. As the Iraq Study group found, there was no sign of Al Qaida in Iraq before we invaded. As they also found, we are now less safe because we have given THEM an additional front from which to wage war on us, as well as inciting other insurgent groups to take up arms agains us as the occupying force. All independent groups that review this foreign policy disaster agree that we are now less safe. They also agree that we never had a plan for keeping peace, rebuilding Iraq, and at the very least, leaving! The GAO found that Iraq is making very little progress – violence is up this year and the leaders have failed to make an strides (missing 11 of 18 Bush benchmarks). It's time to leave and fight the real culprits of 9/11.

    September 7, 2007 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  13. Anonymous

    We are fighting an islamic insurgency, not a war on terror. This self-described terrorism expert neads to do a little more studying on the subject.

    September 7, 2007 03:55 pm at 3:55 pm |
  14. Marcia, Boulder, Colorado

    I have had it with hearing that the troops in Iraq are "protecting" me. Iraq was no threat until we made it one by invading. I respect our volunteer soldiers and don't blame them for the carnage in Iraq, but they have been sold a bill of goods by neocon power-grabbers who capitalized on our shock and fear after 911 to get us to agree to the invasion. The soldiers I honor most are those like the ones who risked their careers last month in the Washington Post to rebut the irresponsible "surge is working" propaganda.

    September 7, 2007 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  15. Pete, Alexandria, VA

    "The catch-all phrase, 'War on Terrorism,' in all honesty, has no more meaning than if one wants to wage a war against criminal gangsterism. It’s deliberately vague and non definable to justify and permit perpetual war anywhere, and under any circumstances."
    -Ron Paul

    September 7, 2007 03:59 pm at 3:59 pm |
  16. Cary - Lowell,IN

    A lot more candidates at the republican debates are naming radical Islam as our enemy; not many democratic candidates are. Why is that?

    September 7, 2007 04:04 pm at 4:04 pm |
  17. Cary - Lowell, IN

    someone in SD,
    it is the policy of the US military to avoid giving number of enemy casualities during a war.

    September 7, 2007 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  18. RA The Framing Wizard

    Good for you Rudy Giuliani; GO FOR IT! You just keep on defending the war in Iraq and our fight against terrorism and the muslin leaders; that are try to kill as many infidels as they possibly can. I say round up all muslins and all their leaders here in the United States. Just like our country did with all the Japanese during WWII. Place all muslins in a safe area until we rid our country of their domination to control.

    September 7, 2007 04:22 pm at 4:22 pm |
  19. Tom - Dedham, Mass

    I thought it was just a bumper sticker?

    Oh wait, German authorities just nabbed 3 converted muslim extremist dirtbags that had weapons and plans to blow up some US installations in honor of 9-11 (more are being pursued by authorities) and in Florida (also this week) 2 muslim extremists (a pattern here???) were nabbed with pipe bombs near the Navy base.

    While the MSM was choosing to give wall to wall coverage on that idiot Craig sticking his piggies where they don't belong, these more important stories either get glossed over (Germany) or not reported at all (Florida).

    Yeah , I know and agree Bush sucks, but guess what, we should be united on killing these bastards and you kumbya singers just want to ignore it, kiss their asses or sit down and find out what "we did wrong" so we can understand why they want to kill us.

    Will you all be so upset if it turns out that these were thwarted using cameras or heaven forbid, wiretapping of overseas phone calls, or oh double no, we used some barking dogs to get information?

    Ignoring the threat or believing old mindsets won't make it go away.

    As for blaming Bush because nobody supposedly hated us until January, 2000, how do you account for the 6-8 US installation bombings or the first WTC bombing while Billy boy was in office?

    As for you sheep who also only believe people that served can discuss these matters, I did VOLUNTEER proudly, 1981-1987.


    September 7, 2007 04:26 pm at 4:26 pm |
  20. Bob, San Francisco, CA

    The soldiers serving bravely in Iraq ARE NOT fighting for our freedoms and protection. I'm sure that's what they want to do, and that's probably why most enlisted, but they have been used as tools so business interests can take root in Iraq.
    Please cut the crap with the patriotic nonsense when it's not the truth. Had we gone after the real threat for real, like Osama and his ilk, then they WOULD be fighting for our protection.
    The war plans for Iraq were laid out before 9-11. All but the most pathetic of neocons have dropped the lame attempt to tie the war in Iraq with 9-11. Yes, there are many more terrorists in the world now who wish us harm, but maybe if we handled things more intelligently in the past, this wouldn't be the case.

    September 7, 2007 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  21. Lyons Steve

    Two: Perhaps the anniversary of 9/11 would be a good time for you people to recall what these terrorists did to OUR OWN innocent citizens…with no apologies.

    EVERYONE knows what they did, Dimbulb. Since the terrorists killed 3,100 Americans, and we've killed over 100,000 Iraqi civilians, I'd say we've done the best we could. In fact, I say that makes Bush and Cheney war criminals.

    You see, Dimbulb, there never was a reason to go to Iraq. Bush never planned to capture bin Laden. The guy simply pops up in public whenever Bush/Cheney need to re-terrorize the country.

    In my opinion, Cheney is a worst terrorist than bin Laden. The jerk lied about intelligence, outed a CIA agent, has made billions for his company Halliburton, a corporation that deserves the death penalty if ever there was one.

    Now, our soldiers are dying for NOTHING. Fighting in Iraq has zero to do with 9-11. It was a planned exercise by the far right to (1) get some free oil, and (2) get rid of those pesky civil liberties that the fascist right has never liked.

    It's sad to see people like you, too brainwashed to face reality.

    No one likes war…but no one said that this one would be an easy fix either. Any loss of life (ANY! Ours or theirs) is tragic–but you people who galavant around with your Kumbaya solutions are doing a disservice to the brave men and women who are over there PROTECTING YOU AND I!!!

    The only ones doing a disservice to our brave soldiers fighting for NOTHING are braindead people like yourself. You, and all of you that support this illegal, B.S. war – YOU'RE the ones doing a disservice.

    As for Kumbaya, it's better than Redneck Hatred, which is all your ilk is capable of.

    September 7, 2007 04:37 pm at 4:37 pm |
  22. Steve,Portland, OR

    Commenting on a comment. Since when did this President ever use diplomacy? Maybe I missed something this guy did that wasn't a threat or fear tactic?

    September 7, 2007 04:40 pm at 4:40 pm |
  23. bret, atl, ga

    All of you people talking about the global islamic war on everyone, think about what you are advocating. Are you seriously, genuinely saying there should be an extermination of muslims?

    You know, somebody named Hitler tried that once. A couple other guys named Stalin and Pol Pot tried it as well. NONE OF THEM SUCCEEDED.

    If you think diplomacy is foolish, you need to think again. You cannot kill a tactic; and the alternative (murdering them all) is something no human being should ever advocate, and if you do I fear for your soul.

    September 7, 2007 04:45 pm at 4:45 pm |
  24. Ed,Ellenville,New York

    How about religious fundamentalist theocracy? War of religion upon religion has no better side.Both are at fault regardless of whose turn it is.Rudy clearly favors his own,as many of his supporters do,and because of that he's doomed to fight the pointless fight forever.Mentally deficient logic like that has no place in our politics.

    September 7, 2007 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  25. Andrew, NJ

    Why do people give Giulliani so much credit for being a terror fighter?

    Why does he get so much credit for failing to prevent the attack? Did any official who slept through the Pearl Harbor attack run for president?

    Any mayor would have done the same things that Rudy did. Althought they would probably be smart enough to avoid putting the main office into a building that they were warned would get attacked.

    And it has been proven time and time again that Rudy didn't do much post 9/11...and that his claim to be a crime fighter is false too, since New York pulled itself up at the same rate as the national average.

    September 7, 2007 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
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