Actually Osama Bin Laden is in a bus in Iowa and sometime New Hampshire following the Predidential candidates around the country. If you looked closed the other night during the Republican debate in NH, Bin Laden was eating at that diner where they were asking all those off site questions. I think he ordered the striped bass with onion rings…

If a Democrat is elected to the White House - 100% gaurantee OBL will avoid capture. Clinton didn't want him when he was offered up years ago. Why would Hillary do anything different than her husband?

Sadly, this guy will be dead of old age before we lay an hand on him.

Is anyone still actively looking for him?

Bin Laden was never a priority for the Republicans, they were fixated on Iraq instead and flim-flammed the rest of us on that unrelated quest.
Indeed they've been bin Laden's best friend as they've radicalized all of Iraq, as well much of the muslim world, so that bin Laden is no longer just a fringe lunatic but a symbol of resistance.
The disaster that we've had these past few years is unbelievable.

Has anybody noticed when Bush & the Repugs are in trouble Bin Laden does them a favor and puts out a video. Then like mindless fools, enough people run and stand under the "Bush" tree to keep us secure.

Also has anybody noticed that after six years Bin laden is STILL free to put out videos? It's enough to make you want to impeach.

[...] Update: Probably correct. [...]

I think he's dead. Think about it he was on video ALL the time before we went into Afghanistan. He hasn't been since since October 2004. If we killed him we might not even know it. If we dropped a bomb on a cave or terrorist camp in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan we wouldn't know who we killed. My question is why do we think he's alive? I may eat crow if he releases a new video on Sept. 11 but I bet it will be old or it won't actually happen.

President Bush and the Republicans are going on 8 years and they have not come close to catching OBL. Of course they are looking in the wrong country (Iraq) to find OBL. Many republicans will blame the Dems for this, but the reality is that 9-11 happened on Bush's watch; Bush had a chance to get him and he blew it; and Bush (not the Dems) are the ones waging a stupid war in Iraq while OBL plans his next attack on the US while enjoying relative peace along the Afghan-Pakistan border. So I do not want to hear from the right side terrorist fighting Republicans - they missed the boat in a big way, and if OBL launches another attach, the blame will rest with Bush, Cheney, Condi, and the rest of the right wing - who talk a good game at election time, but do not execute very well

Has anyone thought about the possibility that Bin Laden's talk could be intended do draw attention away from the "leak" earlier today on a Jihadist website that a special "present" is in the works for the sixth anniversary of that infamous day?Perhaps they want us to think that this "present" is Bin laden's message? Only a thought…

The problem is Osama is in Pakistan where our ally is taking good care of him protecting him from all harm, George W. is too busy looking for him in Iraq, he'll probably let us know where he is on sept. 11.

Hey Henry, give me a break. What has your boy GW done in the EIGHT YEARS he has had to catch OBL? NOTHING!

Anyone else notice that OBL only surfaces prior to an election? Mark my words that there will be a terrorist attack prior to elections as well. Fear factor baby.

I doubt OBL even exists to be honest. If you or I killed ONE PERSON and fled the country to hide in Pakistan, we would be found within days.

This is ridiculous.

I think Secret Service should take a lot of more care about U.S. security.

Yeah Caren, I mean it's just like when we get those thunderstorms if we don't sacrifice a lamb every Tuesday.

There is NO reason for our president to capture OBL, because he got whatever he want because of that. Not catching OBL will allowing him to continously to play fear card on us, like linking OBL to Iraq to get into a invation he wanted…

Osama Bin Laden is dead.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE BUSH TRIBE AND THE BIN LADENS ARE FRIENDS.WHO DID GEORGE LET FLY OUT OF THE COUNTRY AFTER 9-11. HE DOSEN'T WANT HIM BECAUSE HE DOSEN'T HAVE A COUNTRY FULL OF OIL THAT THE SHRUB CAN GET FOR HIS BUDDIES.

Jared asks "What has your boy GW done in the EIGHT YEARS he has had to catch OBL?"

75% of the key players in Al Qaeda have been captured or killed. A list of the notables include:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. A Kuwaiti who is the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. He is also believed to have personally executed Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in January 2002. Captured in Pakistan in March 2003.

Abu Zubaida. A Palestinian born in Saudi Arabia, thought to have served as Osama bin Laden's field commander following the death of Mohammed Atef. Captured in Pakistan in March 2002.

Ramzi Binalshibh. A Yemeni national and an alleged coordinator of the September 11 attacks, accused of involvement in attacks on the USS Cole in October 2000 and on a Tunisian synagogue in April 2002.
Captured in Pakistan in September 2002.

Mohammed Haydar Zammar. A Syrian-born German national accused of recruiting several of the 9/11 hijackers. Arrested in Morocco soon after the September 11 attacks.

Ali Abdul Rahman al-Ghamdi. A Saudi described as al Qaeda's top leader in Saudi Arabia and suspected of masterminding a series of bombings in Riyadh in 2003. Surrendered to Saudi authorities in June 2003.

Mohamedou Ould Slahi. A Mauritanian alleged to have played a key role in the recruitment of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Captured by Mauritanian authorities and turned over to the United States in November 2002 on suspicion he plotted to bomb Los Angeles International Airport during the 2000 millennium celebrations.

Omar al-Faruq. A Kuwaiti and an alleged link between al Qaeda and other militant Islamic groups in Southeast Asia. He was arrested in Indonesia in June 2002.

Mohsen F. A Kuwaiti whose full identity is unknown, plotted unsuccesfully to blow up a hotel in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa. Arrested in Kuwait in November 2002.

Hambali, aka Riduan Issamuddin. An Indonesian, reportedly a top strategist for Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiya in Southeast Asia. Captured in Thailand in August 2003.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi thought to be al Qaeda's chief of operations in the Persian Gulf. Captured in the United Arab Emirates in November 2002.

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani. A Tanzanian suspected in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Captured in Pakistan in July 2004.

Abu Issa al-Hindi. A British national born in India, allegedly a central planner of detailed reconnaissance of U.S. financial institutions. Captured in Britain in August 2004.

Zacarias Moussaoui. A French citizen of Moroccan origin, thought by U.S. officials to be the "20th 9/11 hijacker." Reportedly prevented from participating in the September 11 attacks because he was in custody in Minnesota on an immigration violation.

Mounir al-Motassadek. A Moroccan arrested in Hamburg in November 2001, the only person to have been convicted of a crime connected to the 9/11 attacks. In 2004, Germany's Supreme Court threw out the verdict. Currently being retried.

Richard Reid. British-born, sentenced to life in prison in January 2003 for trying to blow up an airliner with explosives hidden in his shoes.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi believed to have been head of Qaeda operations in the Persian Gulf and linked to the August 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Sentenced to death by a Yemeni court in September 2004 for the bomb attack on the USS Cole, which killed 17 U.S. sailors in October 2000. Currently in U.S. custody.

Believed dead

Amjad Farooqi. A Pakistani, allegedly helped organize two failed assassination attempts on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and participated in the abduction and murder of Daniel Pearl. Reportedly killed by Pakistani security forces in September 2004.

Mohammed Atef. An Egyptian believed to have been al Qaeda's senior field commander. According to the Pentagon, he was killed in Afghanistan in November 2001.

Ali Qaed Senyan al-Harthi. A Yemeni suspected of involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole. Believed to have been killed in a U.S. counterterrorist operation in Yemen in November 2002.

Abu Hazim al-Shair. A Yemeni and former bin Laden bodyguard thought to have been al Qaeda's chief of operations for the Gulf States and a key planner of the May 2003 bombings of Western residential compounds in Saudi Arabia. Reportedly killed in Riyadh by Saudi security forces in March 2004.

no way for Bush to catch him. Remeber when he asked where OBL was during an interview. He answered "I..I just don't spend much time on it.."

Bin Laden's most likely already dead. He's not exactly the picture of health, and I can't think that years running and living in caves have helped his medical condition.

When the tape comes out, and vaguely refers to "those infedels must die," take it with a grain of salt, because you're probably watching re-runs

The CIA already has Osama.

Geez.

Does anyone in Washington notice how completely cynical and grumbly we Americans have gotten?
At what point are we going to do something about it?
If terrorism wins the Republicans another election, I'd be terribly disappointed in the American public. Thankfully, I think we're smarter than that.

Over 500 billion dollars spent in Iraq and over 3000 soldiers lost when instead we could be looking for this moron.

Sad but probably true. Bush never had any real intention of going after Bin Laden after he managed to get into Afghanistan. He just used him as the jumping stone to go into Iraq, which is why 6 years AFTER the 9/11 attacks Saddam Hussein is dead and Bin Laden is alive. Coincidence? I think NOT.

How can we find someone we aren't looking for? But we know a new tape will be released featuring Bin Laden, but we don't know where he, himself, is?? Smell that? Whatever it is, it smells fishy! Every time there is another big scandal in this administration, or Bush's ratings plummet, this administration suddenly breaks up a terrorist plot or they are making "great headway" in Iraq or we are hot on Bin Laden's trail. 2009 can't come soon enough for me! It's the end of an error!

1. Osama Bin Laden died years ago - have you seen or heard from him lately? He should be on a milk carton, you'd have better luck finding him.
2. Osama Bin Laden has never been directly connected to the 9/11 attacks in any way. (Neither has Saddam Hussein for that matter) On June 5, 2006, FBI Agent Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI, noted “The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice than decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, Bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connected Bin Laden to 9/11.”
CASE CLOSED

I wasn't aware that "Osama" had a public relations team to announce his upcoming appearances - Incredible how the news can be generated these days…

Ha Ha
Maybe Osama is hiding under the 'Weapons of Mass Destruction' - once we find them, Iraq will be a safe place.

If they haven't found him by now, it's not for a lack of looking…

If he is alive he will found right before the general election.

I guess invading Afghanistan, destroying the Taliban and Al'Qaeda's safe haven doesn't "count" as going after Bin Laden. Al'Qaeda was never about one man, it was about the organization and like it or not THAT is who we are fighting in Iraq. If you really believe Al'Qaeda isn't present in Iraq, you are drinking your own brand of kool-aid.

You libs really live in a fantasy world. Grow up and smell what you are shoveling.

Wanted Dead or Alive! Yeah that's the ticket, that'll prove I'm really a tough talkin dude!……and boy did you people eat it up.

but I thought we were KICKING ASS. YEAH RIGHT!!! he's bin kicking my ass since he became president.

I wonder, if we did get him, how would the "Hate Bush" movement respond?

I still have hope that we will get him.

ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com

Hmmm….well since in the days right after 9-11, when none of us U.S. citizens could fly, the entire Bin Laden family was flown out of America at taxpayer expense by the Bush regime. Hmmm….my guess is to look for Osama at Crawford during one of Bush's many month long vacations in a "time of war", both of them snorting lines of coke and laughing at each other's spur of the moment "sound bites" we all hear months later.

Did you ask how many think he is dead already? He was a media hound releasing a video every month until we got a tip he was in Tora Bora and bombed it to rubble back in Dec 2001. Since then not a word has been heard from him.

"When" turned to "If" the day President Bush switched from halting Heroin Production to Enronizing Petroleum. Don't mistake "Hate" for the quinnisential disappointment this accidental president has been.

Obama would get Osama, for sure. The Republicans have been blathering about security for years and yet they know just where Bin Laden is.

Obama at least has common sense and knows that Osama Bin Laden is nothing more than a fear figure for Bush to push, which is why Bush hasn't bothered to catch him.

Anybody that thinks we're safer with Republicans in the White House has been drinking ye ol' Kool Aide.

I don't believe it's in the President's interest to get Bin Laden. These video tapes can be a mighty tool to get support for this war on terror. Fear is an easy tool to get followers. What is amazing to me is that we can know relatively easily that a tape is coming out, but could not put any intelligence together to figure out 911 before it happened, and cannot figure out how to get Bin Laden after six years. It wouldn't surprise me if a perfectly timed terrorist attack happens just before election time. And isn't it amazing that a tape can surface just before a vote on whether or not to continue the surge pushed by Bush. My biggest fear is that our next target will be Iran.

I don't even get the sense that the administration is concerned about Osama Bin Laden attacking us again. Why else would we allow him to live knowing where he is. A scary thought with many implications…

I am afraid something bad will happen here in America right before the 2008 election. I agree…it's the fear factor. More scary implications.

God help get us through the next 500 days and help us be smart enough to elect a LEADER this time around.

Bin Laden died 2 years ago on in a small village north of the mountains. he was buried secretly to keep his image alive. If the government would dare him to make a fresh vidio to prove he's alive, you would find out the truth.

What's the difference if he's ever found. There are many more of his appointed leaders and recruits who are very capable of carrying out as much terror or more. Osama is just a name to incite fear tactics.

His clones will continue to multiply. You can't eradicate terrorism it's like religion. If the Holy Leader is illiminated another takes his place and continues to recruit, brain wash, and multiply.

The only hope of eliminating Terrorism is for America to give up their obsession of ruling the world. Only if and when these Nations believe that America is not the power hungry dictator they perceive them to be presently will there be a chance to end terrorism throughout the world. If another Nation was trying to over power and Govern America wouldn't America fight back the only way it knew how?

1,029 Americans Only 1,029, and you consider that to be a worthy amount of people to say that is what "Americans" think!? Next time do a little more poll promotion, and make it last three or four days, too.

What a joke!

Osama is dead, thats why we havent found him. 2004 was the last NEW video, also around the same time it was reported that he had contracted a water-born illness, and was unable to seek out proper medical. (This lead wasnt followed till 05-06, and also reports of his death, FROM A HIGH PROFILE SOURCE. This guy hasnt put out a new video, in 3 years, all have been clips pieces. if it ever got out that he was dead, imagine what that would do to the moral of his followers. In my opinion the video that is being hyped as of right now will be just that a lengthy edit job, from old clips. why? whats the point? to keep his people believing in the cause.

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I wonder, if we did get him, how would the "Hate Bush" movement respond?

I still have hope that we will get him.

ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com
Posted By ThirstyJon, Freedomville, Illinois : September 6, 2007 10:06 pm

Bush is on record of saying he's not concerned about finding Bin Laden. 6 years after 9/11 and we still have not found him. This clearly shows that our current leadership does not care about finding the evil person behind that horrible attack.

You can do your what if's all you want. Until we do find him Bush is an incompetent fool. And you're an even bigger fool if you think that Bush is a good leader. Lesser weak minded citizens like you are what's bringing down our nation.

How do you kill someone who does not actually exist? Osama is only a decoy to keep us away from the real story: 9-11 was fabricated to create big business for U.S. defense contractors.

I agree with Patrick of Denver.Bin Laden is dead as a door nail and has been since the Tora Bora campaign. All you have to do is scrutinize every tape (audio and video)that has supposedly been released by bin Laden since. Nothing on video is definitive and as far as the numerous audio tapes are concerned, when our intellegence agencies say they `think so' or that they are `99 percent sure' its him,then somethings a foul. Voice recognition in todays world is 100 percent. What we are led to believe is sounding more and more like that unrevealed Hollywood plot devised by the movie makers;Remember that long lost quickie story of how our intellegence agencies held that Hollywood movie makers `Think Tank' back after their hiring spree post 9/11? Imagine what might come out of Hollywood!Heck we might even hear or see a look alike bin Laden finally calling for peace! What's to transpire out of all this wishy washiness is anybody's guess; but time will reveal the truth.I'll just remind everyone that a truth conceived in the name of capitalistic gain is sinister. As a conclusion, ask yourself this question: who would have benefited from bin Ladens death during the Afgan Campaign? It sure as heck wouldn't have been the newly budding Homeland Security.

LOOKING BACK AT HISTORY, WE HAVE ALWAYS PAID A VERY HIGH PRICE FOR BEING AN ISRAELI SATTELITE STATE, AND ALSO BEING THEIR ABSOLUTE PROTECTORATE.

SAD!

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If a Democrat is elected to the White House - 100% gaurantee OBL will avoid capture. Clinton didn't want him when he was offered up years ago. Why would Hillary do anything different than her husband?
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Henry, Henry, Henry…put down that Jaegermeister, and wipe your chin off.

You see, it's ol' President "We'll Get Him, Dead or Alive in 30 Days" Bushbaby that hasn't captured bin Laden in…oh, let's see…six years?

And, Henry…you've heard about the kind of guy that comes home and slaps his wife like a coward because he's mad at his boss? That's what your good ol' boy did - went over and slapped Hussein, along with hundreds of thousands of his more innocent countrymen, to death. He killed them. He's a war criminal. There are FAR more terrorists, and in fact just regular countries, that hate our guts now, Henry.

And guess what? It's been 2,160 days since Dubya's "pledge" to bring bin Laden in 30 days expired.

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I wonder, if we did get him, how would the "Hate Bush" movement respond?

I still have hope that we will get him.

ThirstyJon
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Bush doesn't WANT to capture him, you brainwashed fool. He wants him to keep reappearing every time America gets fed up with Bush/Cheney & CO.'s lies. Karl Rove began this agenda of fear and war terror in his own outlines for Bush *before* 9-11! Look it up; it's public record.
They love this! Wave the flag, scare us with B.S. reports of "plots." Act as if the death of 3,100 Americans, while a tragedy and awful - is NO REASON to turn off the civil rights of the entire population.

That's what Bush and the terrorists want! Dictator-like control. The haters of America, including the terrorists whose ranks grow daily thanks to ChenBush…THEY'VE ALREADY WON. They won the day spineless cowards in Congress passed the "Patriot" Act (or, the Fascist Act). Right now, this country is being ruled by a corporate

Let's make it clear: 15 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. THAT'S the country that should be invaded, a craphole that abuses its women but supplies us with oil, so like Reagan/Bush in the past, if there's oil, we don't CARE about human rights.

The Bushes are LONGTIME FRIENDS of the Saudis and, specifically, the bin Laden family. On 9-11, ONLY PLANES FETCHING BIN LADEN FAMILY MEMBERS were allowed in the air.

The time for fascist lovers like you, Henry, has ended. Such blind worship of a juvenile president and his repressed psycho V.P. Pathetic. Wimpy. Depressing.

fake beard, looks dyed as does his hair,would not be surprised in the least if he actually hangs out here in New York or maybe Paris where he can get really good health care.clean shaven and a nice short coif dyed grey(or dark brown) with a Brooks Brothers suit you wouldn't know him.Anyway,these kind of people are mostly full of crap.

And I forgot to mention, does anyone remember that the Bushes and the Bin Ladens are friends?They were together the day the Towers fell. I mean, no one is looking for the fellow,he does whatever he wants including occupy a chunk of one of our "allied" countries, he tends to reappear at the most profitable times for the right wing whackjob republicans,almost like a script was being played out and anytime the right need a little supporting evidence all of sudden we get videos of these robed,bearded men pointing and smiling, come on,WTF? Has anyone asked why haven't we been "hit" here in the states? We basically have little or no real security here,our borders are a joke,the general populace is in a deep sleep and focused on the Paris Hiltons of the world and the horsepower of their SUV's. Have you ever actually looked at a downtown, a "we guard the big buildings you work in security guard"? Do you see one with an IQ of over 80 anywhere? How about at the airport? Feeling pretty good are you? But nothing ever happens.It's really just amazing.I was just watching C-Span and listening to these senators talk about the success of the surge. Right,the SUCCESS of the surge …Are these gentlemen mildly retarded? What's wrong with them? They just don't seem very bright,how the heck did these idiots get to be senators? Mostly they talk like Safeway managers or if they're in a region opposite theirs they put on a real fake dialect.What a bunch of bullcrap! ANd this President you elected,how do you sleep at night?

How can we kill bin Laden, he is already dead? The PHOTO doesn't even look like him!

What, the "younger" bin Laden have a stroke? Why is his nose so fat?

Never mind that pious "Al-CIA-Duhs" would NEVER DIE their hair!

How stoo-pid do you think we are out here?

Why does AmeriKa's mainstream media continue to produce blatant propaganda and misinformation?

Why does it continue to show videos from the CIA's photo workshop at Langley?

Besides, 9/11 was an INSIDE JOB!! The whole rest of the world knows it.

Only stupid Americans who are propagandized daily by the likes of C(IA)NN still believe in the cultural myth of bin Laden and 9/11.

You are NOT FOOLYING anyone, C(IA)NN and your corporate masters!

'Kay?

I hate to be the spoiler here, but a couple of points of order here. The following quotes were lifted from earlier comments in this 'debate':

What has your boy GW done in the EIGHT YEARS…

President Bush and the Republicans are going on 8 years

The problem is, no points are scored if you fumble the ball.

Why do we give this idiot Bin Laden any air time. That just gives him what he wants. Stop airing his tapes…if he doesn't have an audience maybe he will shut up!!!!

suspiciously the reluctance of your highness King George of Carlyle to focus on capturing the terrorist mastermind bin Laden I believe has a lot to do with the President's complicity in 9/11 attacks. The Pentagon project Able Danger identified the attacks which were allowed to occur anyway as a mechanism to justify Bush's war in much same way that Rosevelt used advanced notice of the Pearl Harbor attack to rally support for war with Germany. I wonder, has anyone looked for Osama at the President's Crawford Ranch?

Bin laden is bush's strongest ally,there's no way bush is going to let osama talk.If he is caught,watch how fast he gets killed .Osama was a US operative and probably still was when 9/11 happened.The name Al Qaeda is the name of the CIA database that held the names of our Afghani operatives.Al Qaeda is OURS!Bought and paid for by subversive theocrats right here.

The article failed to mention that the same 42 percent stated that they believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny…

Not one republican can dispute the fact that not one of the hijackers from 9/11 were born and raised in IRAQ. Stop trying to confuse people into your warped thinking about how we should fight "terror" I don’t even like to use that word terror. Because all it does is continues the excuse that this administration used to fight this Oil war! Can someone please make these connections for me on Iraq and Sept.11 and ill be less critical of the Republican Party.

I don't beleive

Who is Osama Bin Laden? I vaguely remember our country looking for him…

People! He's already been captured, and is being held in the White House basement. If he's caught, then the rethuglicans loose one of their reasons for waging war in the middle east so their hiding him for just the right moment. And, if things go sour for the rethuglicans in the days leading up to the 2008 election, guess who's going to be roled out of the basement and displayed on TV as having been just caught?

If you ask me, they've already got Bin Laden! He's in some secret prison in the middle of the desert somewhere eating 3 good meals a day in a nice a/c cell. So come about…oh… October of 2008 they'll stage some heroic scene with guns a' blazin' and "capture" him. This will rocket the Republicans to the top of the polls because they are "tough on terror" and the Republican candidate will win the election. Yes! The Repubs win!! Victory! All carefully planned out by Rove down in Texas! Now…unlikely scenario…but, it would not surprise me one bit given the record of corruption of this wonderful slimey Republican party.

I wonder, if we did get him, how would the "Hate Bush" movement respond?

I still have hope that we will get him.

You don't have to worry about that. Bush disbanded the team searching for OBL a long time ago. It was well documented.

Actually, Henry Tucker, if a Dem is elected, they will find BinLaden because they actually want to find and stop him. Unlike the GOP leaders who prefer having a boogy man around to scare cowards like you into surrending your rights and turning our republic, which I put my life on the line for for over six years, into a dictatorship. Clinton's policies caught the conspirators of the first WTC bombing and stopped the millenium bombings from ever happening. Dubya's refusal to read a two page PDB contributed to 911 happening.

Ask Americans how many believe this administration wants to capture or kill bin laden.

There is no political advantage in catching Bin Laden. As long as he is out there, politicians can point to him and play the fear card to manipulate the masses and feed the military-industrial complex. We will always have an enemy they can use. Russia has played out, so it's Bin Laden's turn. They don't want to see him caught.

Hopefully CNN won't delete this comment a second time. My first post called to task those that made the following comments:

"What has your boy GW done in the EIGHT YEARS he has had to catch OBL? NOTHING!"

and;

"President Bush and the Republicans are going on 8 years"

I simply pointed to the fact that, if we are to believe assertions and claims in these posts, how much credence can we put in them if the author cannot grasp simple concepts like addition or subtraction?

I remember the first WTC bombings, by my calculations, they happened 14 years ago.

8 years ago, it was 1999 (hint: 2007 - 8 = 1999).

President Bush was sworn into office in 2001. Once again, 2007 - 2001 = 6. Since it is September, it would be 6.75 yrs. Granted it may seem like longer, but since the posts fail on such a simple level, one must ask if the poster is expressing their own opinion or just parroting something they heard in an attempt to pile-on and 'score some points'?

If you aren't aware of how long the current administration has been around, how can we take seriously the far more complicated details expressed in your posts?

Our administration is UNWILLING to catch Osama Bin Laden..they diverted resources from that endeavour to attack Iraq instead,a country that was not involved in 9/11 no matter how often the White House claims it. Just remember that northern Afghanistan does not have oil, while Iraq does.

He is thrash. Who is he to address the American people.He should be addressing his own muslim compatriots who are killing each other all over the world and stop meddling with peace-loving people.

It's just sad that we have never caught him, especially knowing that we have had numerous chances in the past. I will never forgive this country for ALLOWING him to escape. A real American Tragedy. And Bush and Clinton, and The White House, and a lot of Congress doesn't even give a crap about the people who's lives and families will forever be changed by the biggest blunder in American history. Yes, we are living through it, ain't it grand?

Obama08

Bush's brain reads Bin Laden = Iraq. Plain and simple. The who, what, when, where, and why do not matter anymore to him. This was a poor excuse to go after Iraq after 9/11 to clean up elder Bushes mess from 17 years ago. We should have finished it then. But now we poorly connect Bin Laden to Iraq to justify this mess! Meanwhile, Bin Laden could be on a beach drinking a pina colada or dead of old age. Good job! Lets bring our men and women serving home. We need to secure our own borders and truly protect our future here.

"If a Democrat is elected to the White House - 100% gaurantee OBL will avoid capture. Clinton didn't want him when he was offered up years ago. Why would Hillary do anything different than her husband?"

THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR HER BUDDY, VOTE FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY WANTS TO GET BIN LADEN. THE REPUBLICANS WILL KEEP TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU AL QUEDA IS IN IRAQ, WHICH IS A REDICULOUS NOTION, AND HILARY DOESN'T HAVE A SINGLE ORIGINAL THOUGHT OF HER OWN. OBAMA HAS ACTUALLY SAID HE WANTS TO FIND BIN LADEN.

Bin Laden is irrelevant. Much like the celebrity idols that liberals like to worship, his face draws a strong reaction due to his notoriety but, overall, he is no longer significant. Would I like to see him captured or killed? Sure. Until then he can stay hidden and ineffective in his cave where he belongs.

Why would Bush capture Bin Laden? They're the two faces of the same coin. They need each other. Bushs need Bin Laden to continue his wars against wrong enemies and Bin Laden needs Bush to fuel hatred for America in the middle east. The perfect match… made in hell.

….and if we DID find him, what would we do with him? Having OBL in custody or even murdered by us would send off shock waves and consequences similar to an early withdrawel from Iraq!!!

You all need to read the 9/11 Commission Report. It shows quite plainly how bureaucratic BS, not due necessarily to Clinton (because Clinton wanted OBL dead), prevented US forces from killing OBL multiple times. This is a problem with government as a whole not any particular political party. What is a problem is that, instead of focusing on catching OBL, Bush pulled troops away in order to invade Iraq. So now OBL just isn't a priority compared to the horrendous mess we have there now. It will probably take another massive loss of life on American soil to wake the government up again…

The US could obvioulsly kill/capture Bin Laden. They are not willing to do so because it would upset Pakistand where Bin Laden lives. Why anyone cares what those stone age people in the provinces cares or thinks is beyond me.

Bin Laden was hired by certain government officials to be the 'face' of terrorism. He was paid-off to take the blame for 9-11, and stayed low while the Americans handled Saddam. He, and the rest of his gang are probably sitting behind a high-speed T-1 internet connection on a network of iMacs in a really big house with curtains in the windows so you cant see in. Even if Bin is brought forward to the public, the world would not be any less dangerous (like we learned with Saddam) and oil would still be expensive.

As 9/11 was not conducted by either Al Quaeda or bin Laden, he is and has always been a non-issue.

What's wrong with this picture? Bush says we're "kicking ass" in a war on a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, while in a few days on the anniversary of 9/11, Osama bin Laden is giving us his State of the Union Address. This totally stinks! Maybe we haven't found OBL because his family is rich and well-connected, just like Bush's.

Bin Laden lives under the white house..lol

Honestly, it doesn't matter what Al-Qaida puts out there. Obama has been dead for a while now. The U.S. doesn't wanna look too over-confident so they won't admit it, and the coward terrorists(or terrucos as we call them in Peru) want people to think Bin Laden has out-run the U.S. military. The real news is, Bin Laden has been dead for a long time that's why Al-Qaida needs other ways of getting cash and resources. Terrucos are a bunch of cowards that kill innocent people. They're no freedom fighters or defenders of their religion, they're just a bunch of cowards. And the way to solve that problem is by exterminating them as we did in Peru. They're like weed, you leave some alive and next thing you know, they're back at it again.

I wonder, if we did get him, how would the "Hate Bush" movement respond?

I still have hope that we will get him.

ThirstyJon

We'll respond by saying "Gosh, we were wrong in saying that the incompetent bumbling clowns in the White house would never get the guy; in fact, it only took them eight years. So sorry. Our mistake. Who knew?"

But that's just a theory, because they'll never catch him. They don't want to catch him. He's so much more useful as the boogeyman in the closet; all they have to do is say "if you don't give us all the money we want and shut up with your questions and criticisms, Osama will come in the night and eat you all up," and all the sheep will just say "Oh no, Mr. President, please protect me from the bad bad man." Why would they want to turn a huge asset like that into just another prisoner at Gitmo?

Here's the sad truth. Does it really matter if we catch him? There are already hundreds of other boys in training in Pakistan to be the next Bin Laden. Invading Iraq and creating more extremists didn't help either..it made the problem worse.

Jared asks "What has your boy GW done in the EIGHT YEARS he has had to catch OBL?"

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75% of the key players in Al Qaeda have been captured or killed. A list of the notables include:

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. A Kuwaiti who is the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. He is also believed to have personally executed Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in January 2002. Captured in Pakistan in March 2003.

Abu Zubaida. A Palestinian born in Saudi Arabia, thought to have served as Osama bin Laden's field commander following the death of Mohammed Atef. Captured in Pakistan in March 2002.

Ramzi Binalshibh. A Yemeni national and an alleged coordinator of the September 11 attacks, accused of involvement in attacks on the USS Cole in October 2000 and on a Tunisian synagogue in April 2002.
Captured in Pakistan in September 2002.

Mohammed Haydar Zammar. A Syrian-born German national accused of recruiting several of the 9/11 hijackers. Arrested in Morocco soon after the September 11 attacks.

Ali Abdul Rahman al-Ghamdi. A Saudi described as al Qaeda's top leader in Saudi Arabia and suspected of masterminding a series of bombings in Riyadh in 2003. Surrendered to Saudi authorities in June 2003.

Mohamedou Ould Slahi. A Mauritanian alleged to have played a key role in the recruitment of some of the 9/11 hijackers. Captured by Mauritanian authorities and turned over to the United States in November 2002 on suspicion he plotted to bomb Los Angeles International Airport during the 2000 millennium celebrations.

Omar al-Faruq. A Kuwaiti and an alleged link between al Qaeda and other militant Islamic groups in Southeast Asia. He was arrested in Indonesia in June 2002.

Mohsen F. A Kuwaiti whose full identity is unknown, plotted unsuccesfully to blow up a hotel in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa. Arrested in Kuwait in November 2002.

Hambali, aka Riduan Issamuddin. An Indonesian, reportedly a top strategist for Qaeda-linked Jemaah Islamiya in Southeast Asia. Captured in Thailand in August 2003.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi thought to be al Qaeda's chief of operations in the Persian Gulf. Captured in the United Arab Emirates in November 2002.

Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani. A Tanzanian suspected in the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Captured in Pakistan in July 2004.

Abu Issa al-Hindi. A British national born in India, allegedly a central planner of detailed reconnaissance of U.S. financial institutions. Captured in Britain in August 2004.

Zacarias Moussaoui. A French citizen of Moroccan origin, thought by U.S. officials to be the "20th 9/11 hijacker." Reportedly prevented from participating in the September 11 attacks because he was in custody in Minnesota on an immigration violation.

Mounir al-Motassadek. A Moroccan arrested in Hamburg in November 2001, the only person to have been convicted of a crime connected to the 9/11 attacks. In 2004, Germany's Supreme Court threw out the verdict. Currently being retried.

Richard Reid. British-born, sentenced to life in prison in January 2003 for trying to blow up an airliner with explosives hidden in his shoes.

Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. A Saudi believed to have been head of Qaeda operations in the Persian Gulf and linked to the August 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. Sentenced to death by a Yemeni court in September 2004 for the bomb attack on the USS Cole, which killed 17 U.S. sailors in October 2000. Currently in U.S. custody.

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Amjad Farooqi. A Pakistani, allegedly helped organize two failed assassination attempts on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and participated in the abduction and murder of Daniel Pearl. Reportedly killed by Pakistani security forces in September 2004.

Mohammed Atef. An Egyptian believed to have been al Qaeda's senior field commander. According to the Pentagon, he was killed in Afghanistan in November 2001.

Ali Qaed Senyan al-Harthi. A Yemeni suspected of involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole. Believed to have been killed in a U.S. counterterrorist operation in Yemen in November 2002.

Abu Hazim al-Shair. A Yemeni and former bin Laden bodyguard thought to have been al Qaeda's chief of operations for the Gulf States and a key planner of the May 2003 bombings of Western residential compounds in Saudi Arabia. Reportedly killed in Riyadh by Saudi security forces in March 2004.

Seems to me the clearest statement by any candidate on trying to capture or kill Bin Laden was by Barack Obama. He thinks that if we get Bin Laden in our sights in the thinly populated western provinces of Pakistan, we should pull the trigger. Hopefully, with the blessing of Pakistan, but if for some reason they don't agree, Obama thinks we should go in anyway to take Bin Laden out. I agree with Obama. Any one here disagree that we should take Bin Laden out whether Pakistan agrees with it or not? Please, I want to know how many disagree with me.

Clinton apparently disagrees with this OR maybe she disagrees we should say it because actually saying what your beliefs and policies are is somehow a weakness. I personally think stating your beliefs and policies clearly is an act of confidence and leadership. Can some Clinton fan explain to me how clearly stating this policy is destabilizing to Pakistan? If Pakistan is so unstable, shouldn't we already be preparing to face the islamic radical Pakistan that is likely to come? Or maybe Pakistan is fairly stable and making our policy clear is going make communications more reliable down the road.

Clinton also dissed Obama for taking nukes off the table for use in Pakistan. So Clinton WOULD use nuclear weapons to kill Bin Laden in Pakistan? OR is she saying again we shouldn't tell the truth because we're afraid of the consequences? Is there anyone here who would EVER support the use of nuclear weapons in Pakistan to kill Bin Laden under ANY circumstance? Can Clinton supporters explain her logic here?

OBL pops up and everyone is in a frenzy. Both Presidents blew it when going after him.

More importantly this week, 2 muslim extremists were captured in Florida with pipe bombs near the Navy base and in Germany 3 muslim extremists were captured before they could follow threw with their plans to blow up US installations.

Old ugly crawls out from his cave or puts out an old video and these other stories are glossed over or like the FLORIDA one NOT REPORTED.

I know, it's just a bumper sticker.

Bush never gave a rat's ass about Osama's ass.

it is not in the plan to catch OBL, then there would be no Emmanuel Goldstein to hate!

Bush has said he's not concerned about finding bin Laden, and the search to track him down was disbanded some time ago. So no…we won't catch him because we're not looking for him. Google it…it's in the mainstream news.

This, if nothing else, is an indictment of the failed presidency of George W. Bush.

He let Iraq distract him from the real enemy. After spending four plus fruitless years in Iraq, hundreds of billions of dollars, the lives of over 3,500 men and women and creating a national deficit that our kids will have to pay off, all we have in return is to be embarrassed in front of the whole world by bin Laden.

Thanks Mr. President.

Al Cia Duh. People are too dumb to see between the lines by daily propagenda by Fox, Abc, Nbc, Cnn. Talking heads babbling on about non issues. Mr. Bin Laden is probably dead and had not a single thing to do with 911. 7 of the supposed hi jackers are still alive??? wtc building 7 wasnt even hit by a plane and it crumble in on itself in record time. Larry Silverstein the own of wtc7 had it "pulled" meaning demolished. That was one quick demo job. Hmmm. how many cameras were point at the Pentagon?? More than a handle full one would think and all we the public get is a few grainy frames of "something" hitting the building and it none of those clips there isnt even a full object to see hit it. We need to wake up or Waco. Time for a revolution I dare say. This administration is getting us nowhere fast. Wake up people.

The worst thing that could happen to this administration would be to catch this guy because then the truth about govt complicity in 911 would come out. I guarantee they are not looking for him and would not take him if he walked in the front door of the white house. After all it is common knowledge that he was in a US govt hospital for dialysis just after 911 - so why didnt they act then. As for some alleged new tape of him you in the press are not doing your jobs if you accept it as authentic - more US govt propaganda

If bush captures bin ladin, the war is finished. So why should he want to do that? His family is invested heavily in the war industry and cheney makes his money from halliburton. Nuf said.

Bin Laden is in Pakistan, we all know that. But if we were to take him out, that is, if the secular Pakistani government were to give him up, then we could see civil war in Pakistan… is it worth it?

That makes sense considering Osama Bin Laden is dead. Osama bin Laden is dead. The news first came from sources in Afghanistan and Pakistan a few years back: the fugitive died in December [2001] and was buried in the mountains of southeast Afghanistan. Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, echoed the information. The remnants of Osama's gang, however, have mostly stayed silent, either to keep Osama's ghost alive or because they have no means of communication

see for yourself.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

Bin laden is dead.

he is on kidney dialysis, Musharraf and the bush administration admit it.
how can you run a machine like that in a cave!? he would need medical supplies and electricity which would be traceable. Why dont we ask why Bin laden was allowed to leave Tora Bora in 2001-2002? Musharraf and the bush administration admit it. its on CNN!

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/

Osama bin Laden is……

DEAD

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

However, America needs a Goldstein
and Osama is him.

The Bush administraton does NOT want to capture or kill bin Laden, the boogeyman used to justify the 'war on terror'. If bin Laden were captured or killed it would be the end of the story, the achievement of a goal. The war on terror would lose support and end the gravy train upon which Bush's cronies make gluttons of themselves.

I’m calling it this time. I am calling this complete bs on the new video coming soon to a theater near you. Complete Bush Administration propaganda bs. How is it that the most wanted man can get his video to Al Jazeera w/o being caught by us? Wouldn’t we have CIA folks crawling all over the news sources offices, undercover CIA posing as editors, authors, and camera men and following them where all the newspapers writers and investigators go? Doesn’t it amaze anyone that Al Jazeera can find this guy but we can’t?

I have too much doubt now, that the video which is in the hands of the white house as we speak (they apparently got the DVD release before it is released to the rest of the world) is fabricated from people within our government. Why am I suspicious to do this? It is because we have no good reasons to continue the so-called “pseudo war on terror”. This administration needs to scare the American public with this kind of fear mongering propaganda to continue this war and continue all of their war profiteering.

If we just let go of the fears (like this) that have been created for us, then we would see and understand that we have nothing to fear. No fear, no loss of liberty, and no need for additional security.

Has anyone thought of the possibility that Bush and Co. are making these tapes, from old tapes of OBL? It wouldn't surprise me in the least. They seem to come when it's politically expedient for Bush. He's lied before. Shy should we expect him to tell the truth now?

I like most Americans would love to see the US Military capture Osama Bin Laden, but I like most Americans realize that he is just a figure head.In actuality President Bush has bested and imprisoned Osama because he left him imprisoned in his little desert caves and holes which can't possibly be better than the luxurious prison surroundings we'd have to place him in should we capture him.Political correctness would have us sick at the lifestyle we'd be forced to provide. I like having Osama run and hide like the little coward he is.His endless FEAR of being captured by US Forces is comforting to me.FEAR is a terrible thing and Osama is clearly filled with it. Way to go President Bush!!

Nice list, Henry. I see you posted it twice, just to make sure it got the eyeballs.

You know it reminds me of the list of hijackers that was miraculously provided within hours of the 9/11 events, though not a single Muslim name appeared on any of the flight manifests on any of the hijacked aircraft. CNN posted those manifests at:
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA11.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua175.victims.html
cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/ua93.victims.html

Remarkable how quickly the FBI found the names after being so totally clueless up to the events themselves.

Remarkable also how seven of the supposed hijackers have been shown to be still alive. (See, for example, http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hijackers_flt_11.html )

One of them, Satam M.A. Al Suqami, was believed to be aboard the first plane to hit the WTC. Although the "indestructible" black boxes were "never found", remarkably, Al Suqami's passport fluttered safely to the sidewalk, thus proving he was on board.

Don't you love lists?
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Republican script: "It's all Clinton's fault . (Stifle yawn.) Our national security requires wishing and praying that nothing further happens to us until these incompetents are voted out in 2008.

After reading 94 comments, it seems that six years of hindsight is providing 20/20 vision. (at least for about 70% of us). But the point is… now that it is getting harder to scare the public, EXPECT an attack to put is back in place….

Bin Laden is probably sitting back in a Lazy boy chair in Downtown Washington watching himself on CNN. Just my guess since no one else can find the guy. Our media gives a video from this guy first hand coverage. I personally could care less about what Bin Laden has to say. If he had any guts he would be out in the open but as we all know this guy hides in caves and has an army of body guards. There is the to often news stories that the guy has died but this cat with more than 9 lives does unfortunately live on each time. His time is coming. We will get him.

Was this not the reject that admitted to 9/11 and didn't BUSH decide to go somewhere else instead of approaching the problem fully and getting the job done which would mean to capture him. Hmmm…I don't know??

I have said this before and I'm saying it again. As long as George W. is president Bin Laden will not be killed. If Al Gore or John Kerry would have been elected, Bin Laden would be dead today. If they can find Saddam Hussein in a hole dug in someones back yard they can find bin Laden. Robert of Hollywood

One of the most excruciating and frustrating realities, quite real to non-Americans, is the possible fact that Osama bin Laden, as he now exists, remains nothing but a manufactured image, packaged, fuelled and in essence constructed by an alarmist media. It is quite something when the wealthiest nation on earth, which also houses dubious achievements in literacy and medical standards, accepts sound-bites and casual images as proof of a credible threat to their country and people. Has anyone watched any one of these so called Osama bin Laden videos? Are the unedited versions of these video messages available to just anyone? Are you sure this is not some actor pretending to be someone we're not even sure existed in the first place or at least in the incarnations attested to by the American intelligence machine? No wonder the world despises this country. And, nothing anyone can say changes people's minds. Trust me, I have visited 15 countries and dozens of cities, villages and towns in the past two years and America is despised. Osama bin Laden t-shirts are quite common in moderate Islamic countries such as Malaysia and Indonesia and no one believe any of the rhetoric around Terror and Terrorism because at least 4 billion people view the so called terrorists as freedom fighters who history will vindicate in the way the ANC has been in South Africa.
But none of what I have said is anything new. There are those Americans who will work hard to change international perceptions of America because these people recognize that we do indeed share a planet. But, the majority, who can't even find Burma/Myanmar on the map, will continue only caring about one thing, "kicking ass."

When you're an asset to the CIA and US Gov't of course you arent gonna be found. We funded and trained the taliban and Al CIA Duh anyways. He is the boogie man. Anytime the pres gets in a jam, mr. Bin Laden seems to release a tape?? Hmmm there is some food for thought. its bad enought Bush and his family used to vacation with Bin Ladens family back in the 70's. One word OIL buddies. Of course none of the MSM will tell you that. http://www.infowars.com for more great info. Wake up or Waco