September 10th, 2007
12:00 PM ET
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Dems join GOP in slamming ad attacking Petraeus

MoveOn.org slammed Petraeus in a full page New York Times ad.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – A liberal advocacy group's print ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus drew a firestorm of criticism from both sides of the aisle on Monday.

The ad, running in Monday's edition of the New York Times, shows a picture of Petraeus. Bold letters spell out "General Petraeus or General Betray us?"

Moveon.org Political Action, which paid for the ad, accuses Petraeus of "cooking the books for the White House" on progress being made in Iraq and calls him "a military man constantly at war with the facts."

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  1. Billy, Omaha, Nebraska

    Ah yes, let's vote for Ron Paul because he opposes the war in Iraq. And everything else that the government might ever want to do in order to help people make their lives better. Libertarianism is clearly the answer to every problem we face, since all of those problems are plainly due only to the outright stupidity and moral depravity of the people who have them. But at least Ron Paul won't bother you for smoking dope or snorting coke, and he won't require that you contribute financially to the maintenance of the society that has made all of your luxury possible - after all, you owe all of that only to yourself, right?

    September 10, 2007 02:51 pm at 2:51 pm |
  2. David P., Denver, Co.

    Im glad moveon.org is showing its true colors. They're all in bed together: Osama Bin Laden, Harry Reid, Pres. Ahmandinjead, Chuck Shumer, all who support Democratic party.

    Why is Nancy Pelosi being shut up lately, anyway?

    September 10, 2007 03:05 pm at 3:05 pm |
  3. Mie, Milwaukee WI

    This war needs to End NOW! Case closed! No other way to put it!

    September 10, 2007 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  4. Steve

    "At least this administration had the guts to do something. If any of the former Democratic candidates had been in office when 9/11 happened, nothing would have been done and we would have attacks taking place on American soil."

    Oh please. This has got to be biggest piece of crap I've ever heard in my life. Only the dimmest of bulbs would seriously believe this. I am a left-leaning Democrat, and I never have– and never will– say anything bad about the war– in AFGHANISTAN.

    The war in Iraq, on the other hand, has been PROVEN to have been based on lies and that the president and his staff KNEW they were lies. Instead of bring Al-Qeada (the real enemy) to their knees, hey are stronger than ever. Iraq is a rallying point for them. Arecruitment ad. Iraq, while a disaster for us and the Iraqi civilian population, is the best thing that ever happened to Al-Qeada. Bin Laden's crew would be history now if we had kept our eye on the ball and taken care of the real threat instead of diverting our attention on GWB's personal vendetta against Saddam Hussein.

    It's just more absurd Republican mud-slinging to say that A Democrat won't protect this country from attack.

    A Democrat lead us through WW2. A Democrat wisely lead us through the Bay of Pigs. I shudder to think what GWB would have done in that same situation.

    Democrats serve this country, Democrats love this country, and Democrats will protect this country.

    September 10, 2007 03:09 pm at 3:09 pm |
  5. Frank Smathers, Santa Clarita, CA

    It was OK for the Swift Boaters to lie about John Kerry's combat record in 2004 but it's "unpatriotic" for Moveon to tell the truth about General Petraeus bogus report on the progress we've made in stealing Iraqi oil. Oh well, I guess that's how the brain works when the head is stuck in George Bush's rear end.

    September 10, 2007 03:09 pm at 3:09 pm |
  6. Brady, Portland OR

    “Democratic leaders must make a choice today: either embrace the character assassination tactics Moveon.org has leveled against the four-star general leading our troops in the fight against al Qaeda, or denounce it as disgraceful,” House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a statement.

    Outrageous... Character assassination of decorated war veterans is a time-honored Republican tradition! Does Representative Boehner honestly think we've already forgotten the assassination of a war heroe's (specifically, John Kerry) character by the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth" and draft-dodging Cheyney and Bush? Where was Representative Boehner's indignation then? A citizenry that elects morons like Boehner is why I left Ohio, and why I am loathe to return.

    By the way, before some apologist for this pathetic administration tries to label me: I served 10 years in the Navy until I was discharged with a medical disability... I have friends that are still overseas trying to straighten this mess out. Don't even DREAM about labeling me "unpatriotic". I am behind the troops 100 percent, but I'm NOT behind the morally corrupt cowards who are deploying them. If you are, wake up!

    September 10, 2007 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  7. Wayne, San Diego, CA

    #1. Joe Lieberman is NOT a Democrat in any way, shape or form. While FOX is known for switch party affliation to benefit the Republicans, CNN should know better.

    #2 Petraeus and Crocker are granting an exclusive interview to Fox news. Anyone claiming that they are anything but lapdogs and yes men for the Bush administration are either liars or naive to the point of brain death.

    September 10, 2007 03:14 pm at 3:14 pm |
  8. Scott Malensek, Akron, Ohio

    Yeah, Reid and others are "so" offended by the ad, but they'll readily take their campaign contributions, and when it comes down to a choice between listening to 16 intelligence agencies giving a briefing on an NIE or getting briefed on world threats by Moveon.....history (via CNN) shows that Democrats don't attend intelligence briefings, but DO get their marching orders from those same people at Moveon. Could this be why only 3% of Americans approve of the Democrats' Congress' handling of the war?

    September 10, 2007 03:15 pm at 3:15 pm |
  9. Ted, Long Beach, CA

    So the Dems condemn an ad that basically makes the same claims that they are? Why can't politicians just come out and say that the reports are true and that they are all a bunch of hypocrits...

    September 10, 2007 03:20 pm at 3:20 pm |
  10. Scott, Lockhart, TX

    John, you got one thing right in your reply to me. We can't afford this war. But then again, we can't afford to give Congress the big raise they voted for themselves, we can't afford to give our fighting men and women a decent raise so that their families don't have to be on food stamps, we can't afford a lot of things. But that's not because we are fighting a war on terrorism. It's because of people like you, who sheepishly, blindly follow the big spending habits of the Democrats. We've borrowed how much from foreign countries? Not nearly as much as they've borrowed from us and never tried to pay back. If the countries that we lent money after WWII were to pay the US back, we could balance the budget and pay for what needs to be taken care of on the interest alone. Don't give me that crap about following blindly. I think for myself and I'm glad that we have a President who is man enough to pay back those who attacked us, and yes, Iraq was providing aid in money and weapons to the terrorists. Unlike the Democrats, who flip-flop depending on how the American public feels, I choose to take a stand and stay there. I'm glad our President and General Petraeus do like wise.

    September 10, 2007 03:32 pm at 3:32 pm |
  11. Chuck, Washington Grove MD

    The ad is definitely a clever play on words and will ensure it gets good air time in the media. I wish Move On could have done it without disparaging an exceedingly honest and dedicated professional such as General Petreaus. I am sure, with Move On's creative talent and resources they could have done better in highlighting the different positions/conclusions other recent studies have developed regarding the performance results of the surge without personalizing it. All these reports acknowledge that it is an extremely complex and politically fluid situation having no easy solutions readily available.

    September 10, 2007 03:38 pm at 3:38 pm |
  12. Scott, Arizona

    Why would I believe a political action website over a acting 4 star general on the ground in Iraq? Patraeus is a hero as are all of our troops. Move On should be ashamed. Moveon and Code Pink are looking wackier each day, as the Dem's associated with these organizations.

    September 10, 2007 03:40 pm at 3:40 pm |
  13. LoserLarry

    Well obviously Moveon.org and the dems have better information than the Generals on the ground in Iraq. Hey, why don't we just let them run both countries since they're doing such a good job..

    September 10, 2007 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  14. Melanie S., Baton Rouge, LA

    Im glad moveon.org is showing its true colors. They're all in bed together: Osama Bin Laden, Harry Reid, Pres. Ahmandinjead, Chuck Shumer, all who support Democratic party.

    Why is Nancy Pelosi being shut up lately, anyway?

    Posted By David P., Denver, Co. : September 10, 2007 3:05 pm

    David:

    BOO! Got your plastic sheeting and duct tape ready to go?

    I'm not a practicing Dem but I find your post is weak. VERY weak. However, if you want to link politicians to terrorists don't forget how close the House of Bush and the House of Saud are sparky and there is AMPLE evidence to prove this, unlike your pitiful LIE re: bin Laden and the Dems ... by the by, where IS Osama bin Looooooooooooooonnnng Gone? Bush doesn't think much about him anymore?

    September 10, 2007 03:46 pm at 3:46 pm |
  15. Greg, Phoenix, AZ

    These are the same liberal interests that the Democrats have been kissing up to for the past couple of months.

    This ad is reprehensible and I'm glad everyone has responded in the manner they have.

    This certainly doesn't help the Democrats cause at the moment.

    September 10, 2007 03:47 pm at 3:47 pm |
  16. Armand

    Reid sucks
    Democratic Party sucks
    Moveon.org sucks

    Get my point?

    September 10, 2007 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  17. Chris Bloomington IN

    What a disgraceful ad. Have the folks at moveon no decency? Clearly the ad was bought and paid for before Gen. Petraus' testimony. How in the world could anyone could condone this sort of language is beyond me. What are the facts that the moveon folks point to and which person(s) do they suggest has having an equal command of the facts which would refrute the testimony of Gen Petraus?

    As an Army veteran and one who has lead men and been lead, I don't know of a single officer or NCO that does not take their job deadly seriously in a time of war and would be willing to compromise the welfare and integrity of their force for political considerations. I'm sure those sorts people are out there, but I never met one. I don't think general petraeus is that sort of soldier and there has never been anything in his background (that I am aware of) that would cause him to check his professionalism, honor and objectivity at the door for political reasons. What would be his motive...he's already a general (4 stars). This guy is the real deal and doing one of the most difficult jobs imaginable.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Petraeus

    I think the moveon.org folks have burned a bridge with many of us middle of the road folks. It reminds me of another character assassination.
    _________________________
    Mr. Welch: And if I did, I beg your pardon. Let us not assassinate this lad further, Senator.

    Senator McCarthy: Let's, let's -

    Mr. Welch: You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?

    September 10, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  18. Lucielee, Port St. Lucie, FL

    MoveOn.org is only reiterating what the media has reported......Sen. Harry Reid is a distraction becasue he is "caving-in" yet again on the Iraq issue......saying there "aren't enough votes" is getting pretty dreary....If there aren't then don't bring the bill to the floor to begin with.....Don't pee on my leg and tell me its raining Sen. Reid~~!!! And don't criticize 3million+ American citizens for moving the issue forward

    September 10, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  19. Cory, San Diego, CA

    Gen. Petraeus is probably the best general officer in the past 50+ years. The fact that the left in this country is atttacking his character, not because his character deserves to be questioned, but because they want us to lose in Iraq, is beyond disgusting. MoveOn and the Dems should both be ashamed of themselves.

    September 10, 2007 04:03 pm at 4:03 pm |
  20. Coach Haughton

    Yeah, Reid and others are "so" offended by the ad, but they'll readily take their campaign contributions, and when it comes down to a choice between listening to 16 intelligence agencies giving a briefing on an NIE or getting briefed on world threats by Moveon…..history (via CNN) shows that Democrats don't attend intelligence briefings, but DO get their marching orders from those same people at Moveon. Could this be why only 3% of Americans approve of the Democrats' Congress' handling of the war?

    Posted By Scott Malensek, Akron, Ohio : September 10, 2007 3:15 pm

    I think we need visual evidence of a democratic candidate taking campaign money for moveonpac. btw that is public information now. (thanks barack)

    The congressional approval rating is for both the democrats and republicans.
    If it were in fact. the democrats congress the troops would be home with their families and America would be minding its own business of being the greatest county on earth.

    September 10, 2007 04:03 pm at 4:03 pm |
  21. Dakota, Lawrence Kansas

    Hey James, My bad, you are right. Bush never explicitly said that Iraq bombed the Twin Towers. He merely said that the terrorists attacked our country and those terrorists are in Iraq. He did not have to say more; all of the uninformed and non-thinking people took his comments to believe what Bush wanted them to believe: Iraq=Bombed Twin Towers=Justification for War in Iraq. No wonder you are trying to deny this; Bush and buddies have been backpedaling on this issue since they found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. NO WAIT–they did NOT find WMD; Bush just said that they did. Another reason for the war. MY question to you is: who sounds dumber: MoveOn or Bush and Co?

    September 10, 2007 04:04 pm at 4:04 pm |
  22. William Abbot Henderson

    I watched the testimony of those two Bush puppets today and must agree with moveon.org. General Betray Us and Ambassador Full of Crock gave themselves away when their only conclusions about problems in Iraq are caused by Iran and Syria. People that are paying close attention to this situation realize that Cheney is exerting every effort to grab Iran's oil and the right-wingers who control Israel want Syria taken out. The Bush Administration is full of war criminals and traitors.

    September 10, 2007 04:05 pm at 4:05 pm |
  23. Veronica, Stamford, CT

    Im glad moveon.org is showing its true colors. They're all in bed together: Osama Bin Laden, Harry Reid, Pres. Ahmandinjead, Chuck Shumer, all who support Democratic party.

    Why is Nancy Pelosi being shut up lately, anyway?

    Posted By David P., Denver, Co. : September 10, 2007 3:05 pm

    Weak, David P., VERY weak. But, if you're going to make a ficticious connection between the Dems, Bin Laden (where IS he these days? Do you think Bush knows? Oh, that's right, he doesn't THINK about him) and Iran I can make a TRUTHFUL connection between a certain Repub and terrorists ... The Royal House of Bush and the Royal House of Saud ... proof is in the puddin' sparky.

    September 10, 2007 04:07 pm at 4:07 pm |
  24. Keepspinnin Seattle WA

    Character assassination of an American war hero is their goal. Moveon.org, CNN and the Democratic National Party are three peas in a pod.

    Posted By spinstopper : September 10, 2007 1:24 pm

    Kind of like what Swift Boat Veterans, the Republican party and Fox News did to John Kerry..
    different pea, same pod

    September 10, 2007 04:14 pm at 4:14 pm |
  25. Jon, Pittsburgh, PA

    First, Democrats are not getting lower numbers than Bush – stop listening to Rush and Sean tell you what you want to hear. The Congress as a whole is getting the low numbers. Last time I checked it had just become a slight Democratic majority. Second, to those that don't like the moveon.org comments and label them as against our troops – what did you think of the swiftboat ads? Probably thought they were great. Oh yeah, Rush and Sean thought they were great, too.

    September 10, 2007 04:18 pm at 4:18 pm |
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