September 11, 2007
Posted: 02:09 PM ET

The Clinton campaign said Monday that it will return money solicited by Norman Hsu from more than 250 donors.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – A day after Sen. Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign announced it was returning $850,000 raised by fugitive fundraiser Norman Hsu, new details have emerged about his capture last week, according to reports from The Wall Street Journal.

The disgraced Democratic fundraiser, who is under investigation for investment fraud in the 1990's, failed to appear in court last Wednesday. He was later found on an Amtrak train headed for Chicago.

The Wall Street Journal reported on its Web site Monday night and in the newspaper’s print edition Tuesday, that it was not a pleasant trip for Hsu.

Another passenger, Joanne Segale, tells the newspaper she noticed several items spill out of his sleeping cabin, and when she peeked through the window and "saw a man who appeared to be in fetal position, bare-chested."

"It appeared this person had fallen out of bed," she told Journal.

A crowbar was needed to open the Hsu’s cabin where he was found on the ground and unable to walk, the Journal reported.

Segale also told the newspaper she noticed "lots and lots of medication in that room. I could see pills on the floor and rolling around."

Hsu was taken to a Colorado hospital and then taken into custody by the FBI.

Hsu has also given to other Democratic candidates, including Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama.

UPDATE: Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Karen Finney tells CNN's Shirley Zilberstein the DNC is now re-vetting those contributions that were raised for the committee by Hsu between 2004-2007 and verifying them with the donors directly. Hsu raised approximately $47,000 for the committee in that time.

Related: Dems rush to dump donations from fugitive fundraiser

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Norman Hsu


Chip Celina OH   September 12th, 2007 5:07 pm ET

Sweet, my comment reappeared! Just like magic or maybe just a server problem. Gotta get that refresh button into the shop. Darned browsers!

My apologies for assuming a deletion.

Happy Wednesday!

Chip Celina OH   September 12th, 2007 5:05 pm ET

dawn, Gaithersburg,

I had a nice post with about 5 or 6 references to WSJ, NY and LA Times showing that Mrs. Clinton was aware that fundraising tactics reminiscent of 1996 would look bad and for her staff to take care not to let the appearance of those tactics emerge. That she had a long term knwledge/relationship with Mr. Hsu, that he was a "Hillraiser", and a college he is on the board of governors of received a $950,000 earmark from the good Senator last July. That at least two other prominent Clinton fundraisers are in trouble (one of them also skipped bail and left the country). That Mr. Hsu had been vetted by the Clinton campaign. Just go to google and type in "clinton hsu scandal" and click around. The information is there if you dig. I addressed every point in your post and covered it well. The thoroughly debunked gossip you referred to resulted in 22 guilty pleas by actionable parties.

Of course, the senator can't personally vet each donor, so she must rely on her appointed minions to do the legwork for her….shades of Cheney and Rumsfeld? Perhaps.

I'd also like to thank CNN for deleting a post that may have enlightened a voter no doubt dedicated to Senator Clinton.

Now, about that bridge…..is ther oil on the property on which it sits?

Have a good day,

Bill W, Coatesville, PA   September 12th, 2007 3:05 pm ET

Let her get the Democratic nomination. Then this and a million other horror stories from her little stint as Senator and her time in the White House will come out and absolutley bury her.

Hillary is the Republican Party's best candidate. She has NO CHANCE to win. And WHEN she doesn't, what happens to all the funds she raised for this presidential run if she doesn't spend them? Does she get to keep them and be a millionaire? That'd be my guess as to the real reason she's running anyway. She honestly CAN'T expect to win with her history, no matter WHAT the Republicans have done for the past 8 years.

RightyTighty   September 12th, 2007 12:09 pm ET

Oh yeah, the dems are going to get exactly want they deserve. Another Republican President. HAHA!!

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 12th, 2007 11:29 am ET

Claude - I see it….its the people with Gore/Libermann and Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers still on their cars who will never see it….here in CT…we call them State Rep x ….and Senator…try living near them (highest tax rate in the country….all run by Democrats….) - side note - we have a Republican Governor…but…she's weak

A. Thomas, New York, NY   September 12th, 2007 10:56 am ET

John Edwatds's hands are dirty too!

Just last month, a Detroit-area attorney was indicted for making $125,000 in illegally bundled contributions to Edwards' 2004 presidential campaign.

This explains why Edwards and Obama keep quiet.

Chip Celina OH   September 12th, 2007 10:44 am ET

dawn, Gaithersburg:

You write:

"If you believe the thoroughly debunked gossip that the Clintons improperly fundraised and/or sold state secrets to China, Ken Starr has a bridge in Iraq, he'd like to sell you. PLEASE … some facts or logic or something other than 10 year old talking points."

Your posts often contain well formed arguments and the use of QED shows you know some mathematics. But, the "thoroughly debunked gossip" you refer to ended up in 22 guilty pleas by the parties involved.

Perhaps they had a 'wide stance' or were not properly represented by an attorney.

In addition from the Wall Street Journal:

"Last week, a leading Clinton supporter and fund-raiser in New Jersey, Mayor Samuel Rivera of Passaic, was arrested on bribery charges in an FBI sting operation. In March, businessman Abdul Rehman "Ray" Jinnah fled the country after being indicted on charges he funneled illegal contributions to Mrs. Clinton and other Democrats."

From a NY Times article:

“People have often said about the Clintons, they don’t care who they hang out with as long as the people can be helpful to them,” said one of Mrs. Clinton’s major fund-raisers. “The larger point in all of this is that the Clintons are the ultimate pragmatists in who they hang out with; if you can be useful to them, they will find a way to make it work.”

Advisers say Mrs. Clinton is not so much furious about the scandal, as she is worried about containing the political damage. "

From an August 28th LA Times article:

"In just the last 36 months Hsu has been involved in raising more than $1 million for Clinton and other Democrats. Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for the Clinton campaign, confirmed today that Hsu had been a "longtime and generous supporter" of the party including Clinton. "We have no reason to call his contributions into question or to return them," Wolfson added.

It is my assessment, that even the appearance of impropriety breeds suspicion of such. We've heard tons of excuses about 'not knowing' the details, 'we can't vet every donor' etc. etc. ad nauseum. Mr. Hsu was not the average everyday donor, he was in FACT (something you asked for) a "Hillraiser", the "best of the best", an elite, one could say …. operative. She has had a 'business' relationship with this man for quite some time, more than the TWO weeks you note in your post. Furthermore, the New York Times (a bastion of right wing conspiracy journalism) reports "Mrs. Clinton told aides this year to vet major donors carefully and help her avoid situations in which she might appear to be trading access for big money, advisers said. Also to be avoided, the senator said, were fund-raising tactics that might conjure up the Clinton White House coffees and the ties to relatively unknown donors offering large sums, like the Asian businessmen who sent checks to the Democratic National Committee.

From the same story, "The Clinton campaign has been monitoring coverage of the Hsu case. “We don’t think the Hsu story has broken through with voters at this point,” one Clinton adviser said. “And we’re going to keep trying to make sure it doesn’t overshadow her message.

She is relying on the ignorance of the American public, a safe bet, but what IS her message.

We've seen her talk a good game about health care since the early 90's, and pass some incremental legislation to that end. Do those 'achievements' hide the earmark payola Mr. Hsu received last year for Eugene Lang college? Do they outweigh the TATA deal that outsourced myriad jobs from her district to overseas?

I will grant that she is a GREAT politician. She's been involved in it all of her adult life. What this country doesn't need is another great politician in the White House, Washington is full of great politicians and we see what is getting done…absolutley nothing.

We need a leader with some vision, a creative problem solver that can think on their feet. Methinks Hill comes up on the short end of the stick in that regard.

Of course we can mudsling and say Obama does it, Edwards does it, the Republicans do it, lobbyists do it but is that what this nation has come to?

Have a good day,

Claude, Mesa AZ   September 12th, 2007 1:48 am ET

To all you AIRHEADS who continue to support Hillary Clinton….this is almost $1,000,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!a far cry from $17,000. Who's going to pay attention to a $17,000 donation over time? Noone, but $1,000,000 and a HILLRAISER DESIGNATION on top of that….. anyone with common sense would do a background check especially with the fishy campaign finance history the CLINTONS have. Again, Hillary Clinton has demonstrated how much of a hypocrite she is. One month ago she voted in the senate that all bundler donors should be disclosed, but she has refused to disclose the 260 donors who contributed the $850,000. What is she hiding???? And what is she hiding in the library papers??? Are you seeing a trend here?

Chima, York, PA   September 11th, 2007 11:30 pm ET

People….people…calm down a bit. Let's set aside the vitriol and face tha facts here:

Hsu was a "Hillraiser", which is the name that Hillary's campaign gave to certain fundraisers who were tapped to raise millions of dollars for her presidential campaign. He explicitly supported Hillary's presidential campaign.

Regarding Obama…yes, he did raise $7000 for Obama's SENATORIAL campaign back in 2003, but he did not donate to his presidential campaign, nor was he a fundraiser for Obama (as noted above, he was a Hillraiser).

And this is to Anon…please don't make stuff up if you are uninformed, ok? Obama's campaign donated $7000 to charity once Hsu's criminal background became public knowledge, so don't post nonsense about Obama "shamelessly" keeping the money…it's not true.

Lastly, though I'm an Obama supporter, I don't think Hillary should be slammed for Hsu being a crook…there is no evidence that she was aware of it.

David, Kingwood, TX   September 11th, 2007 11:29 pm ET

I Foreman, if ur stil reading this, the answer to your question is that it's because Hilary has the most to lose.

Uma, mpls, MN   September 11th, 2007 11:23 pm ET

Why CNN is only pointing Hillary, Obama also got money from him.
I don't see Clinton's fault at all, could have done better checking his background but when you swim in ocean you can find both god fish and some rotten fish and Norman is one of stinky fish that Hillary got.

Earl, Ohio   September 11th, 2007 10:39 pm ET

Hillary took his money: Check.

Obama took his money: Check.

Edwards DID NOT take his money: Check.

Matthew Doyle, Columbus Ohio   September 11th, 2007 10:30 pm ET

Where is Mr. Hsu NOW! I understand he skipped bail and left the country. What did he have to hide? Why isn't this part of the story larger, what other information did he have? Who posted his bail? I will be surprised if the trail does NOT lead back to the Clinton's. I would love to hear Mr. Hsu side of the story oh I guess that will never happen, does anyone remember Foster!!

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   September 11th, 2007 9:35 pm ET

If Hsu hadn't been exposed, NO ONE, including Sen. Clinton would've known about his outstanding warrant, the original excuse for the "scandal."
Sen. Clinton never lied about the amount of money Hsu donated. He personally donated $45,000 AND he bundled an additional $850,000, supposedly from other donors. Two weeks is NOT an unreasonable amount of time to check that that money was legally donated. Why should Sen. Clinton have returned money if it had been legally donated by people who wanted to support her AND, LIKE HER, DIDN'T KNOW that Hsu was a criminal? Presumably her check revealed that Hsu was laundering the contributions. Therefore, she returned the donations: QED, end of story.
If you believe the thoroughly debunked gossip that the Clintons improperly fundraised and/or sold state secrets to China, Ken Starr has a bridge in Iraq, he'd like to sell you.
PLEASE … some facts or logic or something other than 10 year old talking points.

Marty, West Carne, NJ   September 11th, 2007 9:17 pm ET

DONG! Where is my au-to-mo-bile ?!

Ria, Clifton, NJ   September 11th, 2007 7:29 pm ET

She's a senator (carpetbagger, so I won't say from NY) in NY who has not introduced any legislation for the good (or bad) of the state (none, signed 2 pieces brought about by other state senators). She has used the senate to begin her presidential campaign not to work FOR the people of NY. So, can anyone tell me what EXPERIENCE this woman has running anything, let alone the worlds most powerful country???

Roman, Chicago IL   September 11th, 2007 7:14 pm ET

It makes little difference if you people are at the victory party or not !
Sen Clinton WILL be the next Prez of the USA !!! (thank God!!)

Dark   September 11th, 2007 6:45 pm ET

I read a nice break down of some of Hillary and Bill's connections to these shady doners. Make no mistake about it, they knew exactly what was going on.
It will be interesting to see if the media digs as deep as they did over the AG Gonzales non-stories.

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   September 11th, 2007 5:53 pm ET

How about today giving some of us a break on the Hillary bashing? This is a rough day for some of us who were at the WTC on that fateful morning. If you don't live in this part of the country, you may not be aware that Hillary has worked very hard (also Chuck Schumer) all these years obtaining needed funds for the city. Suffice it to say that she has won the respect and support of the firefighters and they are not that easily impressed. Some of you may prefer the caricature to the real woman, but she actually listens to people's concerns at meetings and tends to act upon them. She's also quite personable and has a sense of humor.

CLC, Broomfield, CO   September 11th, 2007 5:41 pm ET

Nick from Miami says: "Hillary's nomination will be automatic win for Republicans"

So a return to extreme prejudice, preaching, and further Constitutional revisionism from the likes of a blatantly anti-human-rights actor is preferred over someone with experience and some sense of fairness and equality? What ever happened to separation of church and state? Last time I looked, the President's job is not to preach or impose personal moral values. It is to address the needs of the nation and uphold the sense of order and equality this country was founded upon.

Carrol Ann, Newport, Maine   September 11th, 2007 5:30 pm ET

"Hsu has also given to other Democratic candidates, including Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Barack Obama."

So why the headline "Clinton Fundraiser Found in…."

Pam eugene OR   September 11th, 2007 5:26 pm ET

Vic in Alaska:
Your brain cells must be frozen from your cold weather there. When this was first reported 2 weeks ago it was said that HRC had gotten $45,000 from this crook. She said she was returning $23,000. What about the rest of it??? Now we find out it is over $850,000 which she must have known at the time. I am sure it was somewhere in the millions!
How can you support such a scumbag? You say Obama has no experience but if this is what your idea of expreience (taking the crooked money) this country does not want or need her qualifications. Come to the party…smell the coffee…for Gods sake WAKE UP. She is bad news.
Anyone but Clinton 08

VM, San Diego, CA   September 11th, 2007 4:59 pm ET

1. He raised $7000 for Obama. That's not exactly on par with $850k.

2. Obama has more experience in elected office than Mrs. Clinton, having served 8 years in the Illinois State Senate before being elected to the US Senate. First Lady is not an elected office.

David, Los Angeles, CA   September 11th, 2007 4:35 pm ET

He gave plenty of money to Obama too, but he's a "Clinton Fundraiser"? Could CNN be any more biased?

John NC   September 11th, 2007 4:23 pm ET

The Clintons are very unethical

GrACE, NY   September 11th, 2007 4:14 pm ET

You Clinton apologist need to wake up. If you think this is bad …what do you think will happen if the Republicans get to run against her. All of this will be replayed over and over again.

What you NUTS forget is that in the GENERAL election it takes more than DEMOCRATIC votes to win. She will drive away independants. For the life of me I don't know why you can't see that.

Hillary in the GENERAL will be like handing it over to the Republicans. I don't care what the polls say now. 9 months of Clinton shady deals and links to corrupt people will be too much.

BTW…my biggest problem is not that HSU gave her the money but that they lied about it at first. Labor Day weekend they said they were surprised to find this out now we read that they knew about him back in June. They wee willing to keep the corrupt funds until they were found out.

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 11th, 2007 3:54 pm ET

There will be no convincing Democrats….these are the same people who will listen to a Hillary speech and agree that gas prices are so high due to the current adminstration (and they believe that too) - now…if they read…they would know gas is a commodity. Watch CSPAN sometime…and watch the Democrats "save" money on a program…only to say "now that we saved 10 million…we can move that money over here for this entitlement program" - they are a scarey crew - followed by (albeit well meaning) morons. Hillary polarizes the country….we don't need a left winger….nor do we need a right….there is only one moderate running….

Elizabeth M, Richmond, CA   September 11th, 2007 3:48 pm ET

I love the way so many Republicans are trying to tie a common "bundler", of the sort used by every candidate including St. John McCain, Gucci Gulch Fred, 9/11 rip-off artist Crazy Rudy, and Flipper Mitt, to some sinister CHINESE conspiracy whereby the Clintons are allegedly in their pay & control. Hilarious if typically racist, and quite indicative of the lack of education required to reach that low. Dream on if you think any of your oh-so-weak candidates could touch Hillary in an election. She would eviscerate any of them in a debate. She sent Crazy Rudy packing in the 2000 Senate race, & she'll do it again to whichever Reptilian weakling gets the short straw next year. Plus she has that delicious ability to make her detractors appear as though they are accusing her of murder, always an added bonus.

Vladimir, Spokane WA   September 11th, 2007 3:43 pm ET

What happened to the culture of corruption? I thought only republicans were bad guys?

Weaver, Dallas, TX.   September 11th, 2007 3:41 pm ET

Sure she will return all the money,,,,,not. If you believe that her and slick Willy will return this money your crazy.

Justin T, Everett, WA   September 11th, 2007 3:36 pm ET

Well spoken John Davis…

Indeed a cute slant on this story by the for-profit mainstream media.

It amazes me how financing scandals like this are cherry picked for presentation to us, the public at large.

Norman Hsu may indeed be crooked, but he's not a terrorist, is he?

It has now been six years since Lieutenant General Mahmoud Ahmad of Pakistan's ISI (our supposed allies)was exposed as having financed the 9-11 hijackers. This was not alleged–it was proven.

susan, fort pierce, Florida   September 11th, 2007 3:27 pm ET

Hillary Clinton evil?? If you want evil just check out Chaney or Bush!
Especialy Chaney!

Scott, Chicago IL   September 11th, 2007 3:19 pm ET

More evidence that China is really going through great lengths to buy as many elections as they can. Its obvious they want to create a soft spot with Democrats who would be less likely to engage China in any sort of conflict should one arise. The Republicans may have sold out to Saudi Arabia, but selling out to China is the worst possible scenario for America.

Terri, Marlton, NJ   September 11th, 2007 3:19 pm ET

Why is Hsu named only as a Clinton fundraiser in this article when he has given to many candidates? Liberal media my eye!

Aaron, Perrysburg Ohio   September 11th, 2007 3:17 pm ET

anybody recall Tom Noe???, both parties are guily of this crap - end this madness and cap individual AND business contibutions and all of this fundraising time could be spent dealing with issues the affect American's everyday!!!

Don Lefever, New Port Richey Florida   September 11th, 2007 3:07 pm ET

Why does it have to be "Clintons Fundraiser", this criminal gave money to all Democrats including Obama? Headlines dont read "Obama Fundraiser"!!! Media controls americas thought process not reality…

Tom - Dedham, Mass   September 11th, 2007 2:59 pm ET

Are you Hillary apologists serious?

This isn't the first interaction with this crook, she also lied about the amount, made it look good by saying she would give that small pittance to "charity", her and Billy boy faked shock when they were told he was a fugitive (he didn't give them $85, but $850,000 so you should know a little about a "Shrillraiser" who gives such a large amount.

This isn't about anyone else, any other party or any other candidate, she took this HUGE amount, made sure he what he wanted out of he deal and it will not be INVESTIGATED further unlike that moron Larry Craig farting today and the media is all over it.

People who say they are Republicans on this site, but hammer Bush are still called sheep, but you HILLARY CAN DO NO WRONG LOSERS think you are not?

Go anyone but Billary 08.

an American in Europe.   September 11th, 2007 2:51 pm ET

Oh Please… the only reason this is news is because she HAD to return the money, since it was exposed for the public. if not, do you really think that money wouldn't be in her election fund right now? If you think she (or any member of her staff) has the morals to actually only accept funds from legitimate sources, you're probably on meds and in the fetal position as well… Hope she get's the dem nomination, because it won't be mud-slinging…more like a landfill!

Thomas L Mpls, MN   September 11th, 2007 2:37 pm ET

It seems like this guy is donating a bunch of money to Hillary because it's most likely she will pardon his criminal past like how Bill pardoned the fugitive on his last day in office.

Jorge Manrique - Hagerstown, MD   September 11th, 2007 2:25 pm ET

*coff* Jack Abramoff.

Nearly ALL politicians are guilty of some gross ethics violations regarding campaign contributions. Bill Clinton was no slouch either- a night in the Lincoln bedroom was reported to have been worth as much as a $2 million donation…

Jon, Sacramento ~ Ca   September 11th, 2007 2:25 pm ET

With Hillary as the democratic nominee… the Republican candidate will be a HSU-in to win.

bigw, Mpls, MN   September 11th, 2007 2:16 pm ET

can you say "white water?"

anon, new york, NY   September 11th, 2007 2:14 pm ET

Hsu raised for funds for many dems presidential candidates. Hillary is the only candidate returning the funds, while other candidates including Obama shamelessly keep the money.

It shows Hillary is experienced (knowing what to do) while others are candidates including Obama are shamelessly inexperienced or money grabing.

I bet there are crooks in republican fundraisers too, and the difference is that they are not caught yet.

That is the problem of new immigrants like Hsu (fundraisers or not) who don't know enough to hide their tricks. That is my conclusion after auditing tax returns for over 30 yrs.

Al, KS   September 11th, 2007 2:12 pm ET

Nobody should be surprised by this…or any other questionable campaign contribution. There is sooooo much money…sooooo much influence buying on both sides, that the media could spend the rest of the election cycle checking everyones finances. Just another call for campaign finance reform.

Daniel SLC UT   September 11th, 2007 2:12 pm ET

Republicans are so full of them self's. You think just because you got Bush elected twice you can get any moron elected. Dream on. In reality you're super scared because she is going to win.

GO HILLARY!!!

Scott Moyer, Kalamazoo, MI   September 11th, 2007 2:11 pm ET

They found Hsu curled up in a fetal position? Sounds like an insanity plea in the making to me! And am I the only one that finds it odd that the Hillary campaign went from identifying and returning $23,000 to suddenly acknowledging $850,000 in questionable contributions? That smells pretty fishy to me. Go Edwards!

Chip Celina OH   September 11th, 2007 1:57 pm ET

Wow! That's about all I can say. Many here think that tying Hillary to this guy is unfair because he's given to other candidates. Hillary sent some of your tax dollars (about 950,000 worth) in the form of an 'earmark' to Eugene Lang College where Mr. Hsu sits on the board of governors. But, well, she didn't know that did she? Vast right wing conspiracy again? Maybe the sun was in her eyes.

Last week when this surfaced it was 23,000 dollars to be returned.

My biggest complaint resurfaces, Hillary didn't say anything here, we once again see that "A spokesman for the Clinton camapaign says…".

That's pretty weak.

Maurice, Washington, DC   September 11th, 2007 1:57 pm ET

Wow, some of you don't cease to amaze me with your hatred for Senator Clinton. When has smart and capable been a crime? She's not a saint, far from it, but show me a saint who is running right now. She is the most qualified and experienced and most tested. Trust me, you need skin that is as thick as Hillary's to go through the Republican attack machine.

Get used to it now she will be the next President of the United States. Hate all you want. She will get her party's nomination and when that happens as it has for the past 100 years, her party will rally behind her. All this rhetoric will be over. It kills me how time and time the media is quick to link Mr. Hsu to Senator Clinton alone. That headline should have read 'Democratic fundraiser…' and not 'Clinton fundraiser…'.

How quick the Republicans forget their own scandals. Where do I start? Enron? Scooter Libby? Senator Craig? If you are going to spew such hatred in a public forum like this then at least have the decency to be fair and balanced.

John Davis, Dallas, TX   September 11th, 2007 1:55 pm ET

All these comments are proof the "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" is alive and desperately determined to "Swift-Boat" the leading Democratic candidate with whatever muck they can rake up. They have no viable candidate, and realize their dirty tricks are beginning to sicken the American Public. After eight years of ruinous governing, it is time to elect leadership having at heart the best interests of all the people.

Dave, Miramar Beach Fl   September 11th, 2007 1:48 pm ET

Again Republicans keep forgetting about Jack Abramoff.

Brad, Columbia, SC   September 11th, 2007 1:47 pm ET

So… where are the howls of "Clinton News Network" now? No doubt right-wingers will ignore this and any other piece of non-pro-Clinton news and then resurface anytime something remotely positive is reported about her.

Dirty fundraisers are a problem no matter who they're giving money to. I doubt that every politician has the time to go over every single donation they receive. And you know they're all so money-hungry that most of the time they're happy to take the cash, no questions asked. That being said, some of the Hsu-Clinton allegations are troubling.

Atlanta, Georgia   September 11th, 2007 1:40 pm ET

Hey all Clinton haters, you fail to realize that Hsu gave to Obama; yet you want to bash Clinton. Atleast Clinton gives all the money back (which she didn't have to) Yet, Obama keeps his. It goes to show you, Obama needs his "hard earned money" tell me one thing Obama has done for this country; except be a jr. senator. tell me one great thing Obama will do; except go down as a "black president"

Stop bashing Clinton. Atleast she is greater than you OR you would be running for office!

Bill W, Coatesville PA   September 11th, 2007 1:39 pm ET

Real simple, people. Just do a google search on this guy's name. Read what you find.

His money comes from the Chinese government. They gave the Clintons millions while they were in office. In return, China got sensitive US PATRIOT MISSILE TECHNOLOGY.

If you don't think this is scary stuff, you need therapy.

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   September 11th, 2007 1:38 pm ET

I guess doing the right thing just doesn't count in America anymore, she is giving back $850,000 to all donors connected with this guy… the guy is a looser or needs medications… but get over it and move on… Also if you want to belive that a Hillary nomination is good for the Republicans, keep on believing… just remember that wise old say: be careful what you wish for! like her or hate her, she is more than qualified for the Job and the best thing about her is, she does have the American people in her mind when doing anything in Government…

Cary - Lowell, IN   September 11th, 2007 1:36 pm ET

Someone gives you A MILLION DOLLARS, someone is your official "bundler" and you DON'T know his credentials? you DONT do back check on him? You ARENT intimately acquainted with someone who donates MILIONS ?!

"I don't buy it."

David, Gilbert Arizona   September 11th, 2007 1:35 pm ET

Posted By Banko: "Familiar pattern. Wake up America. Go Obama"

Obama accepted contributions from this man. Obama donated the funds to charity.

If Hillary is a demon for taking money from this man isn't Barack a demon also?

Rodney Dallas TX   September 11th, 2007 1:35 pm ET

I commend her for giving up the $850,000. She is an honest person and would make a fantastic president. With that said, a squirrel would make a better president than the one we have now. So many people say she is connected with criminals. Well so are the Bush's. They have long ties to Saudi Arabians and their oil. Why do you think gas is so high? Bush isn't going to do anything about that cause his gas is free and he's getting paid everytime we feel up. Talk about a conflict of interest.

Don Penniall, Coronado, California   September 11th, 2007 1:31 pm ET

So the Clinton campaign is "returning" the donations. Isn't it important that we know to whom all that money is being returned , or do you just take their word for that. Where is the investigative reporting? Donors themselves under suspicion ( see related LA Times story).

Nick Mann, Miami, FL   September 11th, 2007 1:20 pm ET

No one should be surprised, the Clinton's have a long history of surrounding themselves with criminals…….Hillary's nomination will be automatic win for Republicans….

Eric Heimann, Palm Springs, CA   September 11th, 2007 1:15 pm ET

I object to the anti-Clinton caption on the ticker. Since the content is per se not newsworthy (what is newsworthy about a sick man being in the fetal position?) the only purpose is to show, somehow by implication, that the Senator is less of a viable candidate because a fundraiser (who raised money for other candidates) was in a "baby's" position. Even if there might some convoluted news value is his "position" why should her name be tied to it? So much for political impartiality.

Lou, Wheeling IL   September 11th, 2007 1:12 pm ET

Who cares. . .Mr. Hsu is not running for President.

Folks, just remember, in the end, you rather have a good President who will put food on your table instead of you worrying about unemployment!

Ray, Tavares FL   September 11th, 2007 1:08 pm ET

Am I late for the partisan mudslinging?

Vic Wilson, Anchorage, Alaska   September 11th, 2007 1:07 pm ET

Go Hillary Clinton! Just because she took money from this guy doesn't mean anything, he raised money for so many other people and she returned it. Barack Obama is inexperienced and people are just voting for him because he can speak the crowds. Yet he's shown time and time again he doesn't know what he's talking about through the debates and has only been in the national scene for a few years. Hillary's going to be the first woman president! But thats not why I'm voting for her. It's because she's trying to do good for this country and knows how to make change (we don't want on the job training for our president BARACK!), she has experience and the smarts to get us out of the energy/Iraq dilemnas facing our nation.

me   September 11th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

This is such crap! Trying to tie Hillary Clinton or anyone into the issues of others. They have very little control over who gives them money for their campaigns, and I highly doubt that anyone has ever done a background check on any donor. They show this very old picture of Hillary Smiling next to this man who just gave a very nice contribution to her campaign, and try to make it look like she did something wrong.

What about taking a look at all of those pictures of Bush with Bin Ladden smiling. or Cheney with Senator Craig and such, their are Tons and tons of those. Let's start printing those!

Ron, TX   September 11th, 2007 12:57 pm ET

This story broke more than two weeks ago. It was -KNOWN- then that Hsu was connected to strange donations of large amounts coming from middle and lower-middle class families! That was the story that uncovered Hsu's arrest warrant. Hillary should have immediately called the $850,000 into question THEN! More than two weeks ago they knew! Instead, she issues a press release NOW saying "out of an abundance of caution" they're gonna return the money?! Get. Real.

How on earth can anyone not realize that something very dirty just happened? Pro-Hillary or not, this has dirty scandal written all over it. Where is the media?

Cary -Lowell, IN   September 11th, 2007 12:52 pm ET

Dont you people get it ?? He couldn't give millions to campaign, because it's ILLEGAL, so he had lackeys put THEIR name on the donations. It was a network of regular everyday Americans who make like $40,000, but whose names were attached to hundreds of thousands in campgain donations. It's against the law and will put Hsu in jail for many years.

Jon, Pittsburgh, PA   September 11th, 2007 12:50 pm ET

Bingo Chris Haynes - you are correct!!!

Republicans never took money from anyone questionable either. They are too honorable for that.

And ZacaryQuack…. well your name says it all.

Pat, Huntington, NY   September 11th, 2007 12:44 pm ET

Hsu donated to many other politicians, including Obama, yet, Clinton is the only one doing the right thing by returning ALL of Hsu's donations. And yet again, we hear the baseless virtrolic nonsensical Clinton bashing comments.

Chris Haynes, Winston-Salem, NC   September 11th, 2007 12:42 pm ET

"on meds"? We should ask Mr. Limbaugh about that topic. Yet another intelligent post from our beloved Republicans.

Michael, Atlanta GA   September 11th, 2007 12:41 pm ET

Well how do we know that the money got returned and who did the money get returned to?

Michael, Atlanata GGA   September 11th, 2007 12:40 pm ET

Well who is she returning the money to? And how do we know it gets returned and not donated again?

James, Phoenix AZ   September 11th, 2007 12:33 pm ET

Note to Karl Rove:

Keep this picture of Hillary and Hsu and share it again after Hillary has won the Democratic nomination. Remind Americans of Clinton Campaigning: Hsu, Jinnah, Charlie Trie, Johnny Chung, Buddhist Monks, James Riady, Lippo Group, Ted Sioeng, Maria Hsia. AND remind Americans that well into ALL of these fraudulent cases - Janet Reno (Clinton's Attorney Gen) repeatedly refused an independent investigation into campaign finance scandals!

PLEASE remind us, Mr Rove.

Chris Haynes, Winston-Salem, NC   September 11th, 2007 12:32 pm ET

This is just another case of the liberal media……oh, sorry Republicans, that one won't work here. I guess you all will have to come up with another catch phrase to attack the Democrats with. I don't suppose Republicans ever took money from lobbyists?

Banko   September 11th, 2007 12:26 pm ET

Familiar pattern. Wake up America.

Go Obama

Steve, Peoria, IL   September 11th, 2007 12:26 pm ET

This is kind of depressing to me; that a perfectly "normal" looking person who is cavorting with no less than the top echelon of the American political scene has spiralled down so far in jso short a time. Makes you wonder what kind of people are in the orbit of Washington politics.

Bill W, Coatesville, PA   September 11th, 2007 12:24 pm ET

"Why was he identified as a "Hillary Clinton" supporter, when he in fact, raised money for many people?"

If you read up on this guy and the Clintons, you will he has raised an enormous amount of money for the Clintons - recently and also while they were in office. Millions and millions - not just this mere $850,000 they got caught with this time.

There have also been allegations that the Clintons leaked (gave) sensitive US missile technology to China through this guy, in exchange for the funds.

Cary - Lowell, IN   September 11th, 2007 12:23 pm ET

Mr. Hsu is typical of the Democratic persona - weak, "feminized", "on meds", hysterical, insecure, impulsive, unethical and dramatic.

I Foreman   September 11th, 2007 12:16 pm ET

Why was he identified as a "Hillary Clinton" supporter, when he in fact, raised money for many people?

Patrick, Tucson Arizona   September 11th, 2007 12:15 pm ET

http://www.troopshome.com

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   September 11th, 2007 12:14 pm ET

A perfect pair they are.

ZacaryQuack   September 11th, 2007 11:48 am ET

Doesn't Hsu look evil to you? And well, we already know Hillary's evil.

Two evil peas in a dem pod. There must be a pun here somewhere..

TransparentTrollop   September 11th, 2007 11:44 am ET

A picture is worth a thousand words.
Or 850,000 dollars in Hillary's case…

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