September 12th, 2007
06:18 PM ET
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Giuliani calls MoveOn.org 'disgusting,' slams Clinton

Giuliani was sharply critical of a recent MoveOn.org ad.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani Wednesday sharply criticized the MoveOn.org newspaper ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus, and said New York Sen. Hillary Clinton was expressing 'political venom' during her recent questioning of the general.

During an appearance on the "Randy and Spiff Radio Show" in Atlanta, Georgia, the Republican White House hopeful called the ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics," and said "it's unfortunate" more Democratic candidates haven't spoken out against the liberal advocacy group's ad.

"I think the failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money Moveon.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, which is millions if not hundreds of millions, is really, I really think it’s very, very unfortunate," he said

Giuliani then scolded Clinton directly for her comments during Petraeus' testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday when she said his progress report required "a willing suspension of disbelief."

"I really do think to accuse a general of the ‘willing suspension of disbelief,' - particularly in the atmosphere that Moveon.org has created with these terrible attacks - I think that’s not the way in a responsible way to go about forging the foreign policy of the United States and the military policy of the United States," he said.

What we need right now is a reasoned account, we need statesmanship not political venom," he added.

The ad in question was published in the New York Times Monday and displayed a large black-and-white picture of Petraeus with the caption "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" Below the picture, the ad alleged the general would likely be untruthful in his testimony on Iraq for political reasons.

For the record, Moveon.org supporters have contributed over $108,000 to Democratic presidential candidates this year through the group’s political action committee, according to Federal Election Commission records. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, led his party’s field in contributions received through Moveon.org, with just over $30,000 since the start of his campaign.

Related: Lawmakers seek to condemn Petraeus 'betray us' ad

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


Filed under: Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (113 Responses)
  1. Bea, Hoboken, NJ

    Well, well, Giuliani attacking Hillary. What a surprise! So he too thinks she's going to be the Democratic nominee?

    Eh Rudy, the NYC firefighters are looking for you and it's not exactly to cheer you on.....

    September 12, 2007 04:25 pm at 4:25 pm |
  2. therealist

    You ain't see nothing yet.. Just wait until all those other advocacy groups, from both sides, join in on the hate spewing these dems have been doing for the last three years. Its going to get real disgusting. And only then will we hear from the liberal dems in pitiful Congress about how shocked they by the politics of hate. Oh dismay..(yep, eye rolling)

    September 12, 2007 04:28 pm at 4:28 pm |
  3. George,Union City ,Georgia

    What people like Giuliani and the rabid GOP partisans always seek to do is to mouth "freedom" "liberty" and "individual choice" anytime they like but are often hostile to others who live by those American philosophy.Hypocrites heal thyselves!!Although I may not and do not agree with the MoveOn ideas but i bet they do have all the right within the American Constitution to express their views.Shame on you all that seek to limit every citizen's right of speech..

    September 12, 2007 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  4. John, Ca.

    The ad is nothing compared the the 'Swift-Boat' liars ads in 2006!

    If only MoveOn.Org had "hundreds of millions" of dollars to contribute to the Democratic campaign then the Democrats would be able to keep up with the corporate Republic party and their front groups.

    Wow, Rudy a demagogue say it isn't so.

    September 12, 2007 04:45 pm at 4:45 pm |
  5. Aaron Kinney, Sherman Oaks, CA

    New York firefighters refer to Guiliani as "disgusting" too, for what he did to them agfter 9/11.

    Guiliani has done far more disgusting things to the heroes of 9/11 than any television advertisement could ever do.

    Emergency service personnel and military servicemembers overwhelmingly support Ron Paul for 2008. You should too.

    September 12, 2007 04:54 pm at 4:54 pm |
  6. B. Carnahan

    "For the record, Moveon.org supporters have contributed over $108,000 to Democratic presidential candidates this year through the group’s political action committee, according to Federal Election Commission records. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, led his party’s field in contributions received through Moveon.org, with just over $30,000 since the start of his campaign."

    Giuliani stated "...how much money Moveon.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates...", not contributed to. That is MoveOn.org's whole scam, whereby the spend milliions on "issue ads" and support of other organizations advcating liberal issues. And remember, and please report correctly, that the organization is esentially a shell/front (a 301c, I beleive) for multi-billionaire George Soros to push his petulant policitical whims. And this is established fact, wish I would you report.

    P.S. On another note, tell jack Cafferty to get of his high-horse with his opinions and just report the news. No one really knew of him a few years ago until CNN started marketing him as though he was some well respected jounrlaist a la Cronkite or Brinkley. It sort of reminds me of the MSNBC Ashley Banfield fiasco. How hard is it to just report the facts without opinion and spin–the general public does not need to be treated stupidly by the media.

    September 12, 2007 04:57 pm at 4:57 pm |
  7. BeReasonable, TC, Mi.

    Petraeus was honest in his deposition to Congress which for the Democratic candidates was unheard of, honesty that is. Sure they are going to attack him because it blows a hole in one of their main platforms. They tried to find fault in his testimony and found none. So they let these side organizations do their dirty work for them. Shame on them and they should distance themselves from these attack organizations or lose any credibility.
    One thing that stuck out in my mind was the attitude of the Senators and Congress to make a political statement instead of asking questions. Plus if they are so concerned with his testimony, why did they leave after their time was up? Don't say the will read the transcripts later, they will only read the recaps supplied by someone else. If they are wanting to find a solution to the war they should have stayed for the entire testimony to glean as much information as they can to make the best decision they can. That unfortunately didn't seem to be their agenda.
    Petraeus only reported the facts as he sees them without any input from the White House. They were not all sunshine but they did offer some rays shining through clouds that surround the war in Iraq. Good job and kudos to the men and women of our Military and Diplomatic Corps who are striving to make the world a better place to live in for all.

    September 12, 2007 05:01 pm at 5:01 pm |
  8. ReadBtwthlins

    When are Rudy and Hillary going to take the troops up on their 360 offer to tour in Iraq? Can either of them walk the beat in the heat??

    September 12, 2007 05:08 pm at 5:08 pm |
  9. Hoping for the Armed Revolution, San Diego, CA

    I've seen and read the ad. Can someone please explain to me why the Right is so upset and obsessed with the ad? It states well known facts and even has their sources sited. It just happens to express a valid viewpoint (and I would even go as far as to declare it an objective truth) about the status of the Iraq war and General Petraeus' current role in that war. If any of you think that just because a man wears a military uniform that he is somehow now beyond reproach and untouchable, especially career four-star generals, then you are beyond my understanding and sympathy. Four-star generals are nothing but political creatures, and the only reason why Petraeus was chosen for his current position is because he is a political ally and now tool of the Bush Crime Family. The ad was, factual and contained the brutal honesty of speaking to the truth which the Republicans loathe and fear and the spineless Democrats cannot muster the fortitude to say for themselves. Personally, I intend on permanently leaving my homeland and watching from afar the self-destruction of this once great nation by the Fascist NeoCon Right, their lazy, ignorant, and xenophobic sycophants, and the impotent and dishonorable Democrats. For those of you who do not have the means or will to escape, you made your bed, now go sleep in it.

    September 12, 2007 05:10 pm at 5:10 pm |
  10. Laurence, Newport News, Va.

    Listen to the "swiftboater wanna-be" calling the "kettle black". Rudy will as many other pundits such as himself feel the searing burn of voter discust with his "double-dealing", "holier than thou", character deficient, special interest funds accepting self! By the way, what ever happened to that corruption investigation involving his ties to his former police commish?

    September 12, 2007 05:19 pm at 5:19 pm |
  11. Peter Ditto, San Clemente, California

    I really cannot believe that leaders in the Democratic party just sit and take this talk - nor that Republicans have the gall to ask Democrats to condemn it.

    First, we all have within our recent past and incredibly well-documented example of a prominent general misleading the American people (whether knowingly or not) about an incredibly important military action (General Powell's testimony to the UN has cost more than 3000 American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi ones). By any reasonable account, his testimony was DEAD WRONG, and I think we all wish someone had called him on it.

    Second, if Democrats must condemn an ad questioning the intentions of a general, then Republicans must be equally responsible to condemn every TV, radio, and print commentary (think O'Reilly, Hannity, Malkin) that has questioned the patriotism of leading democratic lawmakers (saying they WANT U.S. military defeats). These people are not only not condemned, they are accepted as MAINSTREAM members of the Republican establishment. In fact, Mr. Giuliani, Bush, Cheney et al. have cast similar aspertions - and they are the leaders (not some fringe advocacy group). And what about the Swiftboat Veterans vicious attacks against the integrity of a standing U.S. Senator? Where was Giuliani's outrage then?

    Why do democrats let them get away with this nonsense?

    September 12, 2007 05:20 pm at 5:20 pm |
  12. Pete, T.S.FL

    Judy, Judy, Judy,

    Where was your outrage when the RNC went after War Hero Max Clelland, where was your outrage at the swiftboat liars, where was your outrage when Bush questioned John McCain's patriotism?

    You are a phony and America knows it!

    September 12, 2007 05:24 pm at 5:24 pm |
  13. Ryan, New York, NY

    "Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani Wednesday sharply criticized the MoveOn.org newspaper ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus, calling it 'one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics.'"

    Does he really think that anyone buys this hyperbole or is he really that ignorant of history, including very recent history?

    September 12, 2007 05:25 pm at 5:25 pm |
  14. Ron, TX

    The ONLY people I've heard condemn the ad are -Republican politicians-. No one else seemed to care... no one. And that "no one" includes the VAST majority of Americans who do not think Petreaus would be or is honest about how the war is going.

    September 12, 2007 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  15. Kyle, Big Bend, WI

    Haha Rudy lecturing Hillary. PLEASE! This is the same guy who capitalizes on the tragic attacks of 9/11. The same guy who was the indirect if not direct cause of hundreds of deaths NYC Firefighters. The same guy who made money off of 9/11 is giving a lecture about statesmanship?! HAHAHA PLEASE!

    September 12, 2007 05:28 pm at 5:28 pm |
  16. Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA

    The reason MoveOn.org took the lead in trashing the General du jour is that Congressional leadership is too timid to do it, and lacks the votes to force action until they peel off more GOP moderates. The drawdown was already in the plans for a military stretched to the max, and return to pre-Surge levels is actually "staying the course". Stay tuned.

    September 12, 2007 05:29 pm at 5:29 pm |
  17. Zack, Boston, MA

    Anyone who watches the Faux News channel would see similar wording of headlines on the bottoms of their television screens. They take what would be an otherwise libelous remark and add a question mark at the end. Faux does it to attack Democrats and liberals, so no Republican or conservative has raised a fuss before about such headlines. Now, in a single instance where one of their own is the focus of such a headline, suddenly it's the end of the world and the fault of the entire left. How about we get the Republicans denounce Faux news every day, since that's how often Faux news broadcasts such headlines. Or maybe they could just let this one go.

    September 12, 2007 05:39 pm at 5:39 pm |
  18. Bukky, Baltimore, MD

    One of the most DISGUSTING things that has happened in american politics is the BUSH PRESIDENCY.

    this is an ad... get the heck over sheesh

    September 12, 2007 05:42 pm at 5:42 pm |
  19. Lev Klinemann, Redondo Beach, CA

    Rotten Rudy talking about dirty politics, the man who has misused and abused the tragedy of 911. The man who made money (big money) of the tragedy of 911. The man who has NOTHING to run on except the photo-ops of him during 911. Getting upset at Hilary about an ad she had nothing to do with (moveon.org are not very big suporters of Hilary). Maybe she should appologize for what happened to Larry Craig too, or Jimmy Hoffa. Oh please, I wish Rudy would just take his dirty money and go live somewhere away on a farm, so we dont ever have to see his "Nosferatu" mug again.

    September 12, 2007 05:43 pm at 5:43 pm |
  20. Ed,Ellenville,New York

    No Rudy is the one with the willing suspension of disbelief,he's a devout thrice married and drag queen catholic that has a foundation for disgraced pedophile priests.Is this the "moral values" guy? How many gay ex-priests would end up working in our government?

    September 12, 2007 05:43 pm at 5:43 pm |
  21. AB Phoenix, AZ

    Oh but it was OK when Kerry was swift boated. Where was the Rupublican uproar there?

    September 12, 2007 05:47 pm at 5:47 pm |
  22. Josh Maloney, Oakland, CA

    I am a Democrat and I absolutely condemn MoveOn.org for their thoughtless ad against the General. He is a respectable man with great credentials.

    September 12, 2007 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  23. pl. at the UN for a while.

    Why did this guy dump–or was dumped by–two other wifes again? Does he have an issue with women?

    September 12, 2007 05:50 pm at 5:50 pm |
  24. Chesty Puller, Thousand Oaks CA

    Here is the report for the next year and a half of Iraq:
    BUSH: We'll measure the progress in March next year (2008) then we'll know more about the situation in Iraq.
    DEMOCRATS: OK, but we'll ony fund you until March of 2008.
    March comes and the report is ready:
    BETRAY-US: There have been some gains made, but we'll have a better picture of the progress in September (2008)
    BUSH: We'll measure the progress in September (2008) then we'll know more about the situation in Iraq.
    DEMOCRATS: OK, but we'll ony fund you until September of 2008.
    .........TEN YEARS LATER..........
    The story repeats itself....

    September 12, 2007 05:57 pm at 5:57 pm |
  25. Larry Reynolds, College Station, Texas

    Actually, the MoveOn ad proved prescient. Unfortunate, indeed.

    September 12, 2007 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
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