September 12th, 2007
06:18 PM ET
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Giuliani calls MoveOn.org 'disgusting,' slams Clinton

Giuliani was sharply critical of a recent MoveOn.org ad.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani Wednesday sharply criticized the MoveOn.org newspaper ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus, and said New York Sen. Hillary Clinton was expressing 'political venom' during her recent questioning of the general.

During an appearance on the "Randy and Spiff Radio Show" in Atlanta, Georgia, the Republican White House hopeful called the ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics," and said "it's unfortunate" more Democratic candidates haven't spoken out against the liberal advocacy group's ad.

"I think the failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money Moveon.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, which is millions if not hundreds of millions, is really, I really think it’s very, very unfortunate," he said

Giuliani then scolded Clinton directly for her comments during Petraeus' testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday when she said his progress report required "a willing suspension of disbelief."

"I really do think to accuse a general of the ‘willing suspension of disbelief,' - particularly in the atmosphere that Moveon.org has created with these terrible attacks - I think that’s not the way in a responsible way to go about forging the foreign policy of the United States and the military policy of the United States," he said.

What we need right now is a reasoned account, we need statesmanship not political venom," he added.

The ad in question was published in the New York Times Monday and displayed a large black-and-white picture of Petraeus with the caption "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" Below the picture, the ad alleged the general would likely be untruthful in his testimony on Iraq for political reasons.

For the record, Moveon.org supporters have contributed over $108,000 to Democratic presidential candidates this year through the group’s political action committee, according to Federal Election Commission records. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, led his party’s field in contributions received through Moveon.org, with just over $30,000 since the start of his campaign.

Related: Lawmakers seek to condemn Petraeus 'betray us' ad

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


Filed under: Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (113 Responses)
  1. dan, Reality, USA

    BeReasonable....put down the crack pipe.

    Did you happen to notice how many well-respected Republicans were skeptical of Patraues's BS??? Of course not, you were busy gazing at your poster of W.

    September 12, 2007 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
  2. Stephen

    ghoulilani is disgusting exploiting 9/11 for all he can get

    September 12, 2007 06:00 pm at 6:00 pm |
  3. Chip Celina OH

    Like Rudy or not, like Hillary or not, he is correct. I watched her at the hearing on C-SPAN. She opened with a nice salutory comment about how she appreciates their integrity and knows they are in the unenviable position of reporting on failed policy blah, blah, blah...and ends the opening statement basically saying 'but you're liars!'

    C'mon, Hill, if you're gonna go after 'em and "fight 'em" like you've been fightin' those crazy right wingers for 15 years, don't pull the punches. Be genuine for once!

    Happy Wednesday

    September 12, 2007 06:04 pm at 6:04 pm |
  4. Neill C.

    I'm just wondering why CNN is not covering at all the fact Hillary keeps taking hundred of thousands of dollars from wanted criminals and only gives the money back after she is caught.

    September 12, 2007 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  5. Bumpkiss Hodgewarten

    The Democrats who own the Fire Fighter Union are the only NYC Fire Fighters who oppose Giuliani. Normal do not.

    September 12, 2007 06:05 pm at 6:05 pm |
  6. Rick, Atlanta, GA

    I don't know why the Democratic Senators bothered to ask General Patraeus to show up at all. They weren't interested in his answers, only in creating a forum to allow them to state their opinions. They could have done all that without having the General there.

    September 12, 2007 06:08 pm at 6:08 pm |
  7. Erica, Seattle, Washington

    What is Guiliani's position with the introduction of the Global Poverty Act into Congress? What about Clinton's? When will politicians set aside the petty name calling and dissenting and address real issues?

    September 12, 2007 06:18 pm at 6:18 pm |
  8. TheRealist NYC

    He may not make the first primary, the egoist. Freddie's here, and he's your worst nightmare Rudy. I'd start thinking about the lecture circuit if you know what's good for you. You couldn't even get re-elected to the only office you ever held, let alone PRESIDENT! Get Real Rudy!

    September 12, 2007 06:26 pm at 6:26 pm |
  9. Omar, Phoenix, AZ

    Giuliani has no foreign policy experience. He skipped the entire 9/11 commission briefing to go on high paid speaking engagements.

    And since when is harsh questioning by a Senate panal a bad thing? Would Giuliani rather we go back to the days when Senators questioned nothing? When they signed off powers to the President and allowed America to get into a war as a first resort instead of a last?

    The scariest thing about Giuliani is that he thinks foreign policy and "keeping America safer" are his strong points. The next scariest thing is that some people may believe it.

    September 12, 2007 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  10. ThirstyJon, Freedomville, IL

    Giuliani is right on this one. Moveon.org should be ashamed. I cannot believe anyone would participate with such a group.

    ThirstJon
    freedomthirst.com

    September 12, 2007 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  11. Eric, NY, NY

    So Rudy did not have the amounts right nor was he correct in saying that Senator Clinton could not critize Petraus in light of the MoveOn ad. This is one of the reasons why a friend of mine once told Hillary when Rudy was running against her for Senate not to ever be afraid of punching a bully in his nose

    September 12, 2007 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  12. Raj, Dallas, Tx

    In one week, democrats and hillary clinton have done so much self destruction. Moveon.org's ad is so disturbing and democrats are waiting for this newscycle to end. It is really hurting them bad and also hurting america's image. For the first time, hillary clinton's campaign is struggling to control the message. Chinese donor stopped all the momentum for the clinton. Guilliani and other republicans are taking advantage of it.

    September 12, 2007 06:37 pm at 6:37 pm |
  13. Patrick, Bartlesville, Oklahoms

    Whichever mainstream democrat returns his campaing money from moveon.org will be the first one I will support for the nomination.

    September 12, 2007 06:39 pm at 6:39 pm |
  14. David, Encinitas, CA

    While MoveOn's ad was premature and not well thought out, it seems that the general's comments echo the administration so closely as to raise serious question of their veracity. His assumption that Iraq is the most critical factor for battling terrorism is something that this administration has been repeating constantly, the argument has the same rational basis as going after Saddam's WMDs. Al Qaida would not have been there had we not attacked Iraq in the first place, and the suggestion that Iraq represents the best potential operating base for Al Qaida to attack us here in the US is a theory not well thought out at best. Pakistan is known to have training camps and Taliban operate there with little repercussion. While chaos in Iraq would potentially provide some haven for terrorists, it's likely that the Shiite influence would eventually dominate, and al Qaida would not be welcome there for long. The bottom line, Moveon's ad plays into the hands of individuals like Giuliani, who use the opportunity to distract from the real issues.

    September 12, 2007 06:41 pm at 6:41 pm |
  15. Lev Klinemann, Redondo Beach CA

    Liberal Media
    Bill Clinton
    George Soros
    Media Matters
    Moveon.org

    The five republican talking points when they have nothing smart to say (pretty much all the time).

    September 12, 2007 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  16. Raymond, El Paso TX

    B. Carnahan ~ "And remember, and please report correctly, that the organization is esentially a shell/front (a 301c, I beleive) for multi-billionaire George Soros to push his petulant policitical whims. And this is established fact, wish I would you report."

    Sure glad ol' Rupert would never use his front for that purpose.

    September 12, 2007 06:44 pm at 6:44 pm |
  17. Wynter, Loudon, NH

    Hey B. Carnahan, so for people to contribute their money to an organization that promotes a political issue is now called a "Scam" eh? It's called "Activism". People putting their money together to get their word out that they dislike what this Administration is doing in their name.

    Other words that should ring out as "scams" should be... corporate lobbyists, Swiftboat, Fox News ...

    -

    The problem with Giuliani is that Hillary was right to point out that the general has tunnel vision when it comes to the mission in Iraq. He isn't considering that his Commander-in-Chief is an idiot and telling him the truth that this president bungled the whole affair. And that what Bush wants ain't going to happen. The land once called Mesopotamia has been in a constant state of war for thousands of years. You think some two-bit texan and his four star general are going to keep Sunni and Shia from tearing into each other from now on? If you do, then I got some swamp land to sell you.

    Telling it like I see it,
    Wynter

    September 12, 2007 06:48 pm at 6:48 pm |
  18. Brett Pearl, Redlands CA

    For the record, the $108,000 doesn't include the millions spent by MoveOn.Org on advertisements that mirror or advance the Democrat's agenda. Those millions are the one's Giuliani referred too.

    September 12, 2007 06:55 pm at 6:55 pm |
  19. TPP

    That's what Rudolph finds disgusting?

    http://theprogressivepost.blogspot.com/2007/09/thats-what-rudolph-finds-disgusting.html

    September 12, 2007 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  20. JIm, Washington DC

    How about the left will drop Move On if the right drops Fox News.

    September 12, 2007 07:01 pm at 7:01 pm |
  21. Robert, Miami, FL

    Sen. Clinton would have served the inquiry much better had she refrained from the sideswipe that was quoted, the "willing suspension of disbelief" remark and her seemingly ironic 'commendation' of Petraeus for the positive aspects of his testimony. This indeed looks like grandstanding. None of this is going to look very honorable from the perspective of history.

    September 12, 2007 07:05 pm at 7:05 pm |
  22. H. Shim, Tustin, California

    I agree Mr. Giuliani's criticizing.
    Senate Democrats are making another mistake same as General MacArthur had been fired by them during Korean War.
    If they listened to General MacArthur's opinion at the time, North Korea Regime could not exist for now.

    September 12, 2007 07:08 pm at 7:08 pm |
  23. Mike, Milwaukee, WI

    Let's see. Rudy and McCain better be careful here. I think if they go to far with this they are going to be percieved by the general public as to the right of George Bush on this war. I don't think they should attack Hillary too much when she is the one who has the same opinion of the war as most of the electorate.

    September 12, 2007 07:10 pm at 7:10 pm |
  24. Linda - Albany, NY

    I'm honestly appalled at this new standard of low. What Moveon.org did can be compared to those that spit on our Soldiers after their return from Vietnam. Shame on them!

    September 12, 2007 07:11 pm at 7:11 pm |
  25. Rob Guzman, Oakland, CA

    Funny, I feel quite differently after visiting therealrudy.org Maybe folks should check it out. I don't think Rudy has the right to criticize ANYONE. I think I'd vote for Britney Spears of him at this point

    September 12, 2007 07:14 pm at 7:14 pm |
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