September 12th, 2007
06:18 PM ET
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Giuliani calls MoveOn.org 'disgusting,' slams Clinton

Giuliani was sharply critical of a recent MoveOn.org ad.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani Wednesday sharply criticized the MoveOn.org newspaper ad attacking Gen. David Petraeus, and said New York Sen. Hillary Clinton was expressing 'political venom' during her recent questioning of the general.

During an appearance on the "Randy and Spiff Radio Show" in Atlanta, Georgia, the Republican White House hopeful called the ad "one of the more disgusting things that has happened in American politics," and said "it's unfortunate" more Democratic candidates haven't spoken out against the liberal advocacy group's ad.

"I think the failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money Moveon.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, which is millions if not hundreds of millions, is really, I really think it’s very, very unfortunate," he said

Giuliani then scolded Clinton directly for her comments during Petraeus' testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday when she said his progress report required "a willing suspension of disbelief."

"I really do think to accuse a general of the ‘willing suspension of disbelief,' - particularly in the atmosphere that Moveon.org has created with these terrible attacks - I think that’s not the way in a responsible way to go about forging the foreign policy of the United States and the military policy of the United States," he said.

What we need right now is a reasoned account, we need statesmanship not political venom," he added.

The ad in question was published in the New York Times Monday and displayed a large black-and-white picture of Petraeus with the caption "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" Below the picture, the ad alleged the general would likely be untruthful in his testimony on Iraq for political reasons.

For the record, Moveon.org supporters have contributed over $108,000 to Democratic presidential candidates this year through the group’s political action committee, according to Federal Election Commission records. Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, led his party’s field in contributions received through Moveon.org, with just over $30,000 since the start of his campaign.

Related: Lawmakers seek to condemn Petraeus 'betray us' ad

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


Filed under: Rudy Giuliani
soundoff (113 Responses)
  1. Keith Zabrocki, Columbus, Ohio

    Once again Hillary has questioned the honesty of a person that has spent his entire life serving his country. It's silly to think that she knows more about the events on the ground in Iraq than the general. He is admired by all who serve under him....She really needs to tone down her harsh comments.

    September 12, 2007 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  2. Matt, Redwood City, CA

    To "BeReasonable":

    There is bumper sticker I love that says, "If you are not angry, you are not paying attention!" I say to you, wake up and pay attention.

    The democrats found no holes? Really? How about when General Petraeus was asked if this war and this surge was helping make the United States safer. Do you recall his answer? He said that the surge is helping our efforts in Iraq...stumbling through a very short sentence. When asked again if it was helping make the United states safer, his reply was, "I don't know."

    He came with a well written speech that left out a lot....the really bad stuff. How many insurgents were killed last week? Don't worry, I know the answer, zero. How many U.S. troops? I know this answer, too, 28. Petraeus' well written speech speech was nothing but spin to ask the U.S. to just give it more time. I say no more of this!

    I am more than positive that he was given a stern warning as to how this speech should sound. Bush fired several generals who spoke out negatively on the war. Petraeus is well aware of this and did not need to be told twice how his speech should sound.

    Wake up people!!

    September 12, 2007 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  3. Dan (Baltimore, MD)

    Rudy is right about all these points. When has Hillary Clinton been to Iraq to somehow get a better idea of what's going on there than the commanding general? And I agree with one of the posts above, MoveOn.org spends millions upon millions of dollars on attack ads which promote the dem agenda. That counts as contributing to them, not just the amount of money they donate to dem presidential candidates. Rudy Giuliani's common sense and ability to call it like it is makes him the right candidate for the next president.

    September 12, 2007 09:59 pm at 9:59 pm |
  4. Joe,Hollywood,Fl.

    someone nudged my foot under the bathroom stall at the airport in new orleans and asked me if i thought it was ironical that republicans can gripe about ethics and morals.

    September 12, 2007 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
  5. Bob, NY, NY

    For the record the Firefighters in NY who are the most anti-Rudy did not support Kerry in 2004 unlike the national union. They endorsed...Bush who is a a Republican so the meme that of course they hate Rudy cause they are Democrats does not hold water.

    As for unions as a whole there are plenty that are not Democrat centrist–carpenters, teamsters, and even in NY healthcare workers.

    September 12, 2007 10:10 pm at 10:10 pm |
  6. FT Doylestown, Pa

    Go GO RUDY!!!
    I have seen this Picture Before. The Vietnam WAR! ..Most of the followers of Moveon.org and commenting here are too young to Really know What happened in this country when the Democrats truned against " OUR TROOPS" and called them Baby Killers(Kerry and gang) and were Acting like they are today. They had their Candidate for President defeated and Still have not RECOVERED! Once again they are Replaying the old Game.
    Americans Do NOT take kindly to ATTACKS like this and regard the Troops, as our Sons,Daughters,Fathers,Moms,Uncles and Aunts, Neighbors and Friends. The voters will not Forgive the Dem's (AGAIN)......it's now in cement!!!!

    THANK YOU...Moveon.org for Jumping The SHARK!

    September 12, 2007 10:12 pm at 10:12 pm |
  7. greg, Houston

    What's the complaint. Slinging mud is a Republican art form.

    September 12, 2007 10:13 pm at 10:13 pm |
  8. sonny c. v.p.,la.

    Now making beau coup bucks off of 9-11;that's real classy Rudy. Typical Republican hypocracy.

    September 12, 2007 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  9. rgn Hemet ca.

    Go MoveOn Go.....Get Rude next ....

    September 12, 2007 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm |
  10. Andrew, Jakarta, Indonesia

    Democrats won control of Congress last year on a promise to end the war in Iraq. They are no closer to achieving that nearly a year later. The electorate are frustrated with their ineptitude and the Democrats know this. Hence it is only natural for the Democrats to summon General Petraeus to Washington, not to assess progress but to use the General to try to shore up their disillusioned constituency. This "show trial" was obvious once Reid and company started attacking Petraeus before he had even appeared and opened his mouth.

    September 12, 2007 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm |
  11. Ron Nebraska

    Actually Mr. Ghouliani, two of the most disgusting things in American politics are Karl Rove getting George Bush appointed president and your parties reliance on fear to manipulate the ignorant.

    September 12, 2007 10:54 pm at 10:54 pm |
  12. Josue Romano BP, CA

    Republicans are just mad and don't know what to do for the mess that the republican president did. I'm independent by the way.

    September 12, 2007 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm |
  13. Lee, Mays Landing NJ

    Lets get real.

    Bush keeps insisting he only listens to his military but kept firing ("retiring") generals from even before Iraq started to now if they didn't tell him what he wanted to hear,

    He found another general at the end of last year that tells him what he wants to hear, to delay and ptolong the war to end of his term and then "awaits" his "report" as if all the other reports don't matter, only this one does.

    The report was pre-ordained, the result (more delay and pass the buck to the next administration while men die for NOTHING but politics) was known ahead of time. The price of the general's job is to do what Bush wants. There are no secrets here.

    The disgusting part the continued meat grinder and waste of good American lives while Karl Rove style political gamesmanship is played out in an effort to save Bush's "face" and maybe help republicans running in '08.

    September 12, 2007 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm |
  14. Alan St Louis Mo Deploed to IRAQ

    MOVEON.ORG please do something. You are one of 2 evils. 1 you are a republican corpate discuised as a democrat supporter, or 2 you a buch of druged out high school drop out retards. The dung you put out will not effect the hard core democrat voters or the hard core republican voter. The voters that pushes elected officails to win the election is middle amercia. with you labeling the us miltary as tratiors to united states it will outrage all of middle america. but luckly most of em will ignore it. But there a chunk that will go to vote who would origanly vote for democrat will vote for republicans because of your dung. do you read the news. You have given republicans fire and a place solid to stand on. All the hard work and money you donated is no where near enuf to un due the dung you did. Please go on TV and plead for an appoligy that you did not ment to discredit the miltary or the General. General Petraeus like all the miltary have sworn to a service where we have to obey the president. We can not disobey him the military is not a democracy. If the miltary disobey orders you get labled as a traitor and courtmartiled and kick out of the military. Genral Petraues been there. e sweat with the miltary in Iraq. He saw the injured and dead americans that gave there life for thier country and upholding the pleadge to serve the united states and president.WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN BESIDE YOUR AC HOMES AND PLEASANT JOBS. General Petraeus has his stomic full and guilt of the war. But he cant not speak his mind. after he retires you will like the rest of the generals bash on bush. But while there in uniform they cant. READ THE UCMJ and about what officers are allowed to say on politics. READ the enlistment contracs we sign when we join the miltary. READ our promotion orders when we get promoted to our new rank. THEN you understand why no democrats or america and even lots of the far left is not coming to your side. In Fact you have betrayed the democrats. You need to say we sorry and disband the org and start a new one. so a chunk of middle america dont go running to the poll and vote republican becuse of the dung you put out. remember it not the far left you need to convince to vote democrat it middle america you need to convince.

    September 12, 2007 11:23 pm at 11:23 pm |
  15. Kevin Portland,OR

    I think the failure of the Democratic candidates to really condemn that, given how much money Moveon.org spends on behalf of Democratic candidates, which is millions if not hundreds of millions, is really, I really think it’s very, very unfortunate," he said Different than the $108,000.00 the author points out in DIredct Contributions

    September 12, 2007 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm |
  16. Steve, Wichita, KS

    To call a four star general essentially a liar, like Senator Clinton did, is not only a disgrace for herself but also for the Democratic party. It was disgusting to listen to her comments over the report that General Petraeus gave in truthfullness. Her actions as well as others that spoke out from the Democratic party are deplorable and should be remembered during next years elections.

    September 13, 2007 12:31 am at 12:31 am |
  17. andrew, jakarta, indonesia

    irrespective of the swift boat issue, John Kerry showed his "war hero" credentials with his "study hard or go to Iraq" speech. War heroes, by default, respect the military. John Kerry does not.

    September 13, 2007 12:41 am at 12:41 am |
  18. Yorgen K, Mendocino, CA

    Why does someone as delirious and scewed as Rudy think that he would make a good president? He needs to stop fighting for the worst president in the USA history and drop out of the race. It is a waste of everone's time. Note to Republicans-get a better candidate or risk being associated with RG as your figure head.

    September 13, 2007 12:53 am at 12:53 am |
  19. Richard Rambo, San Deigo, California

    This add is shameful and wrong. If you want to question what someone says then do it in the right way. This General regardless of what he sai has done great things for the soldiers on the ground in Iraq. He gets little time to make big decisions then politicians and the public get years and years to tear it apart. I would love to put every last person who has spoken out about this in Gen. Petraeus' shoes for a day and see how well you'd do. It's all well and good to speak your mind, just make sure you know what you're talking about. Also, if you can't do the job he does you have no right to bash him. When you can lead 130,000 troops in a war-torn country where half the population hates us and the other half doesn't even care about their own well-being, then you can criticeise the job Gen. Petraeus is doing. Until then support this man and our troops. Notice I didn't say anything about President Bush or the war. Just our troops. weither you agree with the war or not the fact remains the troops are fighting for your right to complain and speak your mind.

    September 13, 2007 12:57 am at 12:57 am |
  20. Captain Obvious, TX

    Why is so hard to fathom that General Petraeus would potentially be untruthful in his testimony on Iraq? GWB and the entire administration was untruthful from the get go!!

    September 13, 2007 02:48 am at 2:48 am |
  21. Lyons Steve

    Oh, this is rich.

    Giulliani, the sleaziest, 9-11 exploiting-est, crap bomb of a candidate, faking outrage over Move On's dead accurate portrait of Gen. Paetreus, Bush apologist and only the latest and most partisan Bush appointee in the war on Iraq.

    Nice try, Rudy, you stupid putz. Whaddya say about the Swift Boat Weenies for Character Assassination? Did that "outrage" you as well?

    Go home to momma. What a puke.

    September 13, 2007 04:04 am at 4:04 am |
  22. Chris - Austin, TX

    Seriously people, if you thing Petraeus wasn't being a mouthpiece for the president, show all of us where they are in disagreement. There really is no point of conflict between anything he said to congress and anything Bush has ever said.

    The people on the right might dismiss the Daily Show for liberal propaganda, they can't, however, argue with the indisputable lowering of the definition of success, in which Bush has been engaged. This was highlighted in a montage of his "banner" moments across the history of this war, in which the mark for success was eventually lowered to "fewer car bombings and suicide bombings."

    We weren't told in the onset that we'd be successful when there were less of those, or else we might've considered the regional unrest we've created. There have been 6,098 seriously wounded and 3,776 dead American soldiers in this war, according to icasualties.org. That's far more than the numbers of the dead on September 11th, which along with supposed weapons of mass destruction were our only motivation to go into Iraq in the first place.

    I'm sorry if we do not trust an administration that has never once genuinely owned up to any it's catastrophic and embarrassing shortcomings, all in the name of political bitterness. Americans wouldn't be so bitter if there was an ounce of acceptance with regard to the failings of the Bush administration, of which there is a laundry list.

    September 13, 2007 04:32 am at 4:32 am |
  23. Sam, IA

    The moral and upright Rudy has spoken. Let all within the sound of his voice fall to thier knees and divorce thier wives for a young, hot, chick, IOIYAR( It's OK if You're a Republican).

    September 13, 2007 05:05 am at 5:05 am |
  24. Rocco, Wellington, FL

    I would not vote for Rudy if move.org supported him! I've been a republican all my adult live and this group of republicans are disgusting. I hope and I pray a majority of Americans feel the sameway.

    September 13, 2007 05:29 am at 5:29 am |
  25. RB, from the bay state

    Rudy is wearing out his 9/11 moment in the sun. It's all he has in his bag of tricks.

    Americans won't be fooled. Rudy is a fraud. Mercifully, his own party will sink him.

    September 13, 2007 08:04 am at 8:04 am |
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