September 15, 2007
Posted: September 15th, 2007 08:51 AM ET

Giuliani is accusing Clinton of changing positions on Iraq in a new Web ad released Friday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The official start of the presidential primary season is over three months away, but former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is going after Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton as if she were already her party's nominee.

The New York Republican's latest hit on Clinton comes in a Web ad released Friday afternoon, alleging she changed her position on the Iraq war "now that she's running for president."

“In 2002, Hillary Clinton voted to authorize military action in Iraq … because she believed it was the right thing to do," the ad states. “But now that she’s running for president, Hillary Clinton has changed her position, even joining with the radical group MoveOn.org in attacking American General Petraeus."

Giuliani has been heavily critical this week of MoveOn.org's ad in the New York Times Monday. In the ad, the organization alleged the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, is not telling the truth about conditions in Iraq for political reasons.

Giuliani has also condemned Clinton directly for not denouncing the ad, as well as for her comments during Petraeus' testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday, when she said his progress report required "a willing suspension of disbelief."

"Clinton stood silently by when MoveOn.org ran this venomous ad in the New York Times," the ad states. “The same general she called an expert not long ago. Now she is questioning his honesty.”

Responding to the Web ad, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said, "Rudy Giuliani is dropping in the polls and is unable to defend his own support for George Bush's failed war."

"Instead of distorting Senator Clinton’s record in the campaign's first attack ad, the Mayor should tell voters why he thinks sticking with the Bush Iraq strategy makes sense. The country wants change and while Hillary Clinton is focused on ending the war, Mayor Giuliani is playing politics," he added.

So why is Giuliani going after Clinton as if it is September 2008?

"Giuliani needs to be acceptable to conservatives," CNN Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider says. "What better way to do it than to show he's ready to lead the fight against Hillary Clinton? Among conservative Republicans, 85 percent have a negative opinion of the New York senator."

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Rudy Giuliani


Mary   January 21st, 2008 1:31 am ET

TO

Ed in N.C.

NOW YOU HAVE MET A PERSON VOTING FOR HILLARY.

WHY IS IT THAT THE NEWS MEDIA HATES THE CLINTON'S ?

ESPECIALLY HILLARY . THERE IS NO REASONABLE EXPLAINATION

THE NEWS REPORTERS WILL

DECIDE WHO THE NEXT PRESIDENT WILL BE AND THEY HAVE ALREADY

DECIDED ON MCCAIN OR OBAMA . NO HARD QUESTIONS FOR THEM.

Rose Hann New London, CTr   September 17th, 2007 11:18 am ET

I am looking forward to Giuliani's two former wives start chatting. His kids don't endorse their own father. If I were you Rudy, and I'm glad I'm not, watch out for the glass when your house comes down. Most of us remember you made the cover of every rag sheet in the country. That is your legeacy. Wait till they begin surfacing again as you humiliated the Mother of your children!

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   September 17th, 2007 1:33 am ET

I have yet to run into one person who admits that he/she is for Hillary.
Posted By Ed NC : September 14, 2007 8:39 pm

Well, come to this part of the country and you'll meet plenty of Hillary's supporters. Do you perhaps think that her consistent lead in the polls is just a figment of the pollsters' imagination???

Paul, CA   September 16th, 2007 6:01 pm ET

In what world is a person's inability to recognize a mistake and fix it an enviable trait?

I would hope our next president can admit when they were wrong and change course when needed instad of just yelling louder and ignoring reality. Clinton bought into the Iraq lie just like half of America. Now that the truth has become clearer, she has adjusted her position. The last thing this country needs is another president who can't detatch ideology from reality.

C. Mass, Washington D.C.   September 16th, 2007 11:58 am ET

Dawn from MD exemplifies my point exactly...she sits in the comfort of her home in MD and places her stock in the opinions of oft biased journalists and pundits, who are thousands of miles removed from the situation, instead of the judgements of professionals who are physically located there everyday.

If Dawn had spent the last few years on the ground in Iraq working alongside General Petraeus, her position might merit serious consideration. However, basing her position on what the Washington Post says is mere punditry.

It perfectly illustrates a more alarming problem we have in this country: Americans generally place more faith in what the media reports to us than in what the ground truth is.

Sam, IA   September 16th, 2007 6:46 am ET

Rudy questioning anyones veracity falls a bit flat. I wouldn't start the ole flip-flop gambit if I where him. She never flip-flopped on who she was married to. Honking your secretary and claiming some kind of moral elitism just won't work Rudy.

Jim Jensen   September 16th, 2007 1:18 am ET

Where is Ron Paul in CNN'c coverage?

http://WWW.ronpaul2008.com

Ronnie.Irving,Texas   September 16th, 2007 12:19 am ET

Rudy Giuliani can blast all he wants to at Hillary Clinton but it will not do much good.Giuliani will go down because of his failures in his personal life and the disaster he create on 9/11.I.E:You do not locate a city emergency offices in an area already hit by terrorist a few years before(World Trade Center).You do not let the police and fire departments radios and other equipment get so out of date that when they really needed them on 9/11 they didn't work.How many fire and police persons died on 9/11 because they did not get the radio messages to evacuate?
And why should anyone vote for a man who cheated on his wife for years and married his mistress?For a man who's own son will not back or vote for his own father.There are reasons America why no republician should be the next president:9/11,Katrina and Iraq are only the tip of the treasonous reasons why the republicans should not win the White House.

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   September 15th, 2007 11:16 pm ET

How do I know that Petraeus is lying? Actually, I can't be certain: he may just have no idea whatsoever that his methodology for assessing violence in Iraq is completely cockeyed. For example, he may genuinely believe that whether Iraqis get shot in the front or the back of the head is a GOOD way to decide if they are victims of sectarian violence. You know who else thinks Petraeus can't count? The Washington Post: read their article on Petraeus' flawed assessment BEFORE you vouch for his integrity and/or accuracy.

Mark Milton, New York, NY   September 15th, 2007 5:30 pm ET

Giuliani becoming President of the United States will mean the end of western civilisation as we know it

ROBERT JOHNSON   September 15th, 2007 4:55 pm ET

IT'S DISTURBING TO SEE SOMEONE OF

HILLARY CLINTON'S STATURE SO OBVIOUSLY

PANDERING FOR PUBLIC SUPPORT!!!

rodwambold   September 15th, 2007 3:57 pm ET

I would like to see some real service from our nation’s top servants. When did all this get turned around? Let's get back to the point that from our nations top governmental positions we the people are served by individual that serve us with leadership skills. It just appears that most are taking the stand that they are leaders. I am tired and many in out nation are tired of the false front that serves a personal agenda. We need real service not career politicians that are willing and do sell themselves with false empty promises. Politics is big business and we the people suffer from that. Our rights are systematically diluted.

Jo, Atlanta GA   September 15th, 2007 2:54 pm ET

Re:

I have yet to run into one person who admits that he/she is for Hillary.
Posted By Ed NC : September 14, 2007 8:39 pm

Where do you live IDAHO?

DJ, Los Angeles   September 15th, 2007 2:13 pm ET

As much as I despise Rudy...I have to agree with him in this case in that Hillary is the ultimate opportunist:

She tests which way the wind blows...win war is popular she jumps on the war hawk bandwagon. When anti-war sentiment is more popular she changes her stance.

What is even worse is she has made contradictory statements recently about keeping as many as 50,000 troop in Iraq indefinitely. So truly she is having it both ways and lacks credibility. If you vote for her, you don't know what you're getting.

Whereas with Obama, Paul or even the war hawk...you know exactly where they stand.

pl. at the UN for a while.   September 15th, 2007 1:41 pm ET

Why did CNN delete my post of 8:30 this morning? I thought it to be mild by any account. I simply said that Mr Giuliani does not only have a political issue with Ms Rodham Clinton; but also in general with women, given that he is now on his third wife. Did perhaps his former wifes die? If they did then I apologize.

Jo, Atlanta GA   September 15th, 2007 1:18 pm ET

Don't be fooled. This idea was given to him by Sean Hennedy on air. I wonder why no one is talking about it. Rudy can't think for himself. We now live in an America where a Senator can't question a policy. Rudy should learn about Government 101.

Lyons Steve   September 15th, 2007 1:14 pm ET

Bush betrayed us. Paetreus was under orders from his Commander in Chief, and lied to us, as ordered.

Giuliani, McCain and these other censorous fascists are the ones to throw the hell out of the country.

This is free speech land. ESPECIALLY when that speech is truth.

The Joe McCarthy smear crap won't work this time, fearful Repubs.

Carrol Ann, Newport, Maine   September 15th, 2007 1:00 pm ET

Blast away, the only thing he's doing is shooting himself in the foot LOL!!!

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   September 15th, 2007 12:40 pm ET

This is what Hillary said prior to the liberation of Iraq:

"If left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. So it is with conviction that I support this resolution as being in the best interests in our nation..."

What is she saying today?

What will she say if elected?

One really never knows.

Tricia M Charlottetown PEI   September 15th, 2007 11:58 am ET

It's downright scarry reading comments from Americans who say they will vote for Giuliani or Thompson!!

Why not just vote Bush back in and relive the last eight years all over again!

A vote for Giuliani or Thompson could only be likened to another victory for Bush or a vote for Barney Rubble and Fred Flintstone.

What are these Americans thinking? Do you put no value in Leadership Qualities, International Diplomacy, Experience, Truth, Justice, Morals, the American Constitution, America's Image?

Then there are the Ron Paul supporters!
More Scarry! The man looks so frail I doubt he'd make it through his first year of Presidency. Of course he won't have to worry as there is NO chance he will be nominated!

Thank God these Americans don't come even near to being a majority! Our World is frightening enough

C. Mass, Washington D.C.   September 15th, 2007 11:40 am ET

To all the believers of Moveon.org's unjustified attack on General Petraeus:

Why do you choose to believe an organization who justified their attack on an individual, who is mandated by law to conduct his duties in the best interest of the Nation and free of political bias, based on opinion polls and biased op ed articles?

Don't you think the assessment of a professional Soldier who has spent several years on the ground in Iraq working directly with and against the major players in the region holds some weight over the opinions of partisan journalists (who get their information from second and third hand sources)?

How do you know General Petraeus is a liar? Have you spent a few years in Iraq and worked with their government or been on a patrol in Sadr City with the ISF or a humanitarian mission in al Anbar? I doubt it...you base your opinions on the information other people, who may be biased, provide you.

I think people who believe in Moveon.org's attack are instead blinded by partisanship and their dislike of the President. They mistakelnly equate General Petraeus with the Iraq policy, instead of the man charged with carrying it out (whether he agrees with it or not).

Rudy Giuliani was correct in calling out Moveon.org for this unjustified attack.

Ron Hemet Ca.   September 15th, 2007 11:27 am ET

THE bush administration is a total failure...the have done a good job of ruining this country ....So if you want another failure than elect Rudy....

Jimmy, Cherokee, Ok   September 15th, 2007 11:11 am ET

One thing all of you are over lookin. Senator Clinton, yes I addressed her as Senator Clinton. She has a title. Gee You Want Any does not. No experience at all in running our GREAT NATION, much less the free world. Any how Senator Clinton is not moveOn.org. She didn't place that add. Nor did she place the one about Thompson, again no title, unless of course you include former (why former?) about the cuban suitcase thing. I follow Senator Clinton very closely. Have listen to many speech and read many articles. She doesn't come out and condemn GEE YOU WANT ANY, or any of the others, she doesn't have to. As for General Petraeus, What was wrong with her questioning the General. That is why she was elected into her role. If she didn't keep him on his toes than she certainly is not doing her job. Oh I know if you don't do it the Republican way you are less than human. Well guess what Republican party watch the revolving floor as you all fall through it. I just hope you do not take the rest of us with you. For us Democrats We love our neighbor as we do our own. We believe in Unity and Freedom for all. Including the Americans. That one is for President Bush. See in Respect us Ture Democrats show it. Replace the Republican Party-Governor Swarts of California (s.s) He has seen the light at the end of the tunnel. Republicans we trusted you for several years now you have let us down. NOW GET OUT OF THE WAY

Chip Celina OH   September 15th, 2007 11:11 am ET

This has spun and spiraled out of control and we're 14 months away from the general election!

The original problem was that Sen. Clinton in a convoluted coin of phrase at the hearing basically called the General a liar with her "suspension of disbelief" comment. Was that really necessary. Did she have to give such a critical opening statement? If she were TRULY presidential she would have stayed above the fray and gone straight to the questioning. While doing so, she could have asked some hardball questions and listened to the responses and try to use the information.

Instead, she had to grandstand and throw in a snide remark to try and discredit the general and take a shot at the administration.

There is no doubt that the next president of our country will at some point have to deal with the Iranian and other middle eastern entities. Having lived in a Muslim country for a couple of years earlier in my adult life, I can tell you that as a woman, she will go into ANY negotiating session with middle eastern leader already having a strike against her because of her gender.

Will her tact suddenly improve? If she lacks respect for one of our own trying to accomplish the mission set forth before him, how will she do in the big leagues. She has every right to not agree with that mission and to question its effectiveness, but to insult your counterpart prior to asking them for information is not a good plan.

Jeff Old Bridge,NJ   September 15th, 2007 11:02 am ET

Giuliani is the guy that exploited 9/11 and the NYC police and fire departments for his own personal and political gratification.The NYPD and NYFD now realize that they made a terrible mistake in supporting Giuliani.
Many Democrats that were completly misled and lied to by Bush and his cornies mistakenly voted to support the War in Iraq but when they they finally learned the truth about the lies and deception by these thugs and criminals in the whitehouse,they quite honestly changed their minds about this war and denounced this war and this administration.Hillary was one of the first and most vocal to call out the President and has fought tirelessly to stop the most disasterous foriegn policy decision in our history!
Giuliani is just another Republican PUNK that talks about the ethics of others while practicing none himself.
You want to know about the REAL Giuliani?Jut ask the NYPD and the NYFD!

Romney sucks too!   September 15th, 2007 10:02 am ET

Rudy is another BUSH...and uses a horrible day for his political benefit....this man has no character or morals.....

Chris, Orlando FL   September 15th, 2007 9:37 am ET

Rudy Giuliani has had successes as a Mayor of NYC and US Attorney. This is undeniable

Gen. Petraeus is a highly decorated and respected Military Officer having served us and both Republican and Democrat administrations.

Hillary Clinton has no comparable experience(except blowing hot air in the Senate) and thinks she can simply ride the coattails of her highly successful husband....ain't gonna work.

I would love to vote the Dems their
turn in the White House(I voted for Bush and he totally screwed up.........Democrats must find a more qualified candidate.

Amos Chinodakufa, Pretoria, South Africa   September 15th, 2007 9:14 am ET

It's quite interesting to note how Hillary Clinton did not respond to Guilliani's attestations that she Voted for the war in 2002 but has now changed her mind for the sake of political expediency.

I also wonder how many Americans have realised what a bad attiude that lady has. I wonder why she is so proudful. And they do say pride comes before a fall.

D.Nichols, Jupiter, Florida   September 15th, 2007 9:05 am ET

I am a conservative and Rudy Guiliani is far and away my choice for President. He is a proven leader and a hero of 9/11. His honesty and work ethic overshadow any "mistakes" in his personal life. On the other hand, the thought of Hillary Clinton being President keeps me up at night...

Rocco, Wellington, FL   September 15th, 2007 8:51 am ET

People, just listen? A vote for Giuliani is just like a vote for Bush! Is that what you want for our Counrty?

pl. at the UN for a while.   September 15th, 2007 8:39 am ET

We all know Mr Giuliani, that you have a problematic relationship with women.

Look Mr Giuliani, Your face betrays a trobled personality. What!? the American voters can't see that?

Please continue to make a fool and a clown of yourself...and go get yourself a 4th wife.

DTV, Chicago, IL   September 15th, 2007 8:35 am ET

For some of you who have posted here, would you please check your spelling and grammar before venting your anger? Could you try to spell correctly and punctuate your sentences correctly so that people can understand what you are trying to say? Writing badly does not give your comments any credibility.

JB, Boston MA   September 15th, 2007 8:00 am ET

A few weeks back people were questioning why Hillary was going after Bush so much. The response from all the Hillary lovers was " she is in the lead, why would she go after other dems lower in the polls". Now Guilliani is ahead in the polls, he goes after Hillary, and all the dems scream foul. Typical. And by the way, for those that want out of Iraq yesterday. . . when we leave, are we responsible for the deaths of all of the non insurgents? When 500,000 innocent Iraqi civilians die, will you change your mind and want to go back in? Think about it. People say they want out, but NEVER address the consequences of leaving.

Alice Newman Center Harbor NH   September 15th, 2007 7:29 am ET

When a Republican changes his political position he is just "evolving." When a Democrat changes theirs, its a flip flop.

Democrats are supposed to step away from "Move-On" but its fine and dandy for the Republicans to party with the Swift-Boaters.

GOP hypocrisy at work – as usual.

TCRNYC Chappaqua, NY   September 15th, 2007 7:17 am ET

I support the MoveOn.Org ad. I am a member of MoveOn.org. I am a liberal Democrat, not a "radical," and I am not voting for Hillary. That should tell you something right there.

The ad pointed out that Petraeus was working for the Bush administration, had previously spoken out in favor of Bush policy, and was essentially on a p.r. campaign for the surge. The ad also pointed out what everyone knows - see Paul Krugman's column in today's times - which is that the surge has failed.

Clinton's problem with liberals is not that she changed her position on Iraq, but that she did so without ever repudiating her original support for the war. She and other Democrats backed Bush, and did so not because they thought he would behave responsibly, but because Democrats were concerned that, if they opposed him, they'd be accused of being "soft on terrorism." It's ironic that Giuliani is trying to "swift boat" Clinton by calling her a "flip-flopper" AND a "radical." The problem for liberals is that Clinton was insufficiently "radical" in 2002 and has yet to acknowledge her mistake.

Finally, Giuliani's attack on Clinton was aimed at undermining Fred Thompson, his competitor for support from the Republican base. Thompson has attacked Clinton - he's running as the "anti-Clinton" - and Rudy followed his lead, hoping to prevent him from making in-roads among conservatives. This is not about Clinton - at least not yet.

As for MoveOn - if the public had listened to MoveOn in the last election, we'd be out of Iraq by now. People continue to react emotionally to stupid rhetoric rather than looking at the facts. Krugman reports today that Bush's cronies are buying up oil in Kurdish areas of Iraq, apparently in anticipation of a partition. They know something we don't want to hear, and they didn't find out what they know by listening to Giuliani's political tirades. That should tell you something, too, about who is "betraying us."

Katie, Washington   September 15th, 2007 5:44 am ET

Not that I'm for Hilary Clinton as a canadite, but what Rudy just did on his website, publically humilating one of the other canidites, is plain childish, and he has no support from my family, for making statements like this. Its just pathetic. Why her? Why not Obama, or Edwards? Because she's a women standing her ground? It was very wrong for him to put that in an ad of his, feelings such as this should be kept to ones self! He will only loose in the end anyways. And besides questioning a top general about this so called war my husband is over fighting for are questions we would all like to know!!! I mean really how many guys have been killed so far over there, that the goverment has just covered up and lied about?? Who really do we trust anymore???

Jesse   September 15th, 2007 3:20 am ET

Giulani cannot focus on important issues at the present moment because he is constantly dropping in the polls. The more he attacks Hilary, the stronger she will become because she is smart, intelligent and she is about changing the country for the better.

trekks,butlercounty,kansas   September 15th, 2007 3:02 am ET

I am a conservative and supporter of the current administration. We will be electing either John McCain or Fred Thompson.
We have to continue the fight in Iraq becuase loosing now means fighting an emboldend group of terrorist in the future who, will be better armed, better trained, and will want to kill americans regardless of your political view. My brother is doing his third tour in Iraq, hes been wounded twice, has a son about to be born back here, and you could not pry him away from a war that his fellow soldiers died in, trying to fight for the democracy for the people of one nation, while less than half of their own country is behind them in their efforts.
The only thing that Bush has done wrong , is not explain to the American public that we are going to have to keep 100,000+ men in that region (Iraq, Syria, Afganistan, and yes of course Iran) for the next decade, in order to keep the U.S. and our ALLIES from attack.
If you really get right down to it, it would probably not be the best time to elect a democrat to office. After what Ive seen from liberal groups like mvon.org, I would be frightened by the thought of anyone in that organization thinking they knew how to protect us from a cold, much less the enemies of America today.
Maybe you lefties should try SUPPORTING your countries efforts in Iraq and then the terrorist would not know there is a part of the American populus they can easily use as pawns in a propaganda war against us. I wonder what party the terrorist want to win in the next election? Liberals are making it possible for them to vote!

Phoneix, Arizona   September 15th, 2007 2:55 am ET

Soooo what. Everyone has the right to change their position or opinion. It's liars that stick theirs, whether it's right or wrong!!!!!!!!!!

Harry Plummer, Qatar   September 15th, 2007 1:57 am ET

What a moron statement by spokesman Singer "Its about politics". What else would it be????

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   September 15th, 2007 1:46 am ET

Giuliani is not dropping in the polls. The average of all the polls still has him far ahead of the other Republican candidates. Thompson got a little bump when he finally announced but that will disappear just as fast as it came.

He is right to attack Clinton because she is wrong on national security, wrong on healthcare, and wrong on illegal immigration.

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   September 15th, 2007 1:42 am ET

Ahhhhhhh(loud sigh), it's only September and I already have campaign fatigue. It's going to be hard to have to hear Rudy screech against Hillary, and probably Thompson, for months to come. What you all are seeing is typical Rudy behavior, demonize the opponent no matter what and the heck with the truth. Rudy is a one note candidate, he'll repeat "9/11" until we'll scream for mercy!!! It's going to be a long 14 months.........

Rob, Oaklandad   September 15th, 2007 1:25 am ET

Is everyone on crack. Petraeus is a lifelong republican hack and towing the bush line. He's basically a traitor who supports and illegal war based on lies to the American public. In a true democracy he would be on trial for war crimes. MoveOn didn't go nearly far enough. It's time we all start dealing with the truth and get these con men republicans out of office and into prison. Giulian belongs in jail for life for his incompetence on 9/11

Paul F., Alexandria, VA   September 15th, 2007 12:37 am ET

It is amazing to me that Hillary's campaign doesn't come back by dismissing Guiliani as a man who:

claimed he did more work at ground zero than real rescue workers, while he was really spending more time at Yankee Stadium;

put NYC's emergency response center in the WTC after it had already been attacked once in 1993 and against the advice of everyone in the security business;

failed to provide the communications needed by fire and rescue workers that would prevented many deaths during the attack on the WTC on 9/11;

and tried to get his criminal partner, Bernie Kerok, put in charge of the Homeland Security Department.

Hillary has changed her views on Iraq. I prefer Barack Obama. Still, whenever any Democrat is attacked by this pretend leader, that candidate must step up and, instead of just defending themselves, HIT BACK.

Ultimately, it's the Dem who does that best who I will vote for when push comes to shove. Why? It's the only way we will win in '08.

Jimmy, Cherokee Ok   September 15th, 2007 12:30 am ET

Ruby GEE U WANT ANY! is a BETRAY US also. Now I have sunk to new Republican lows and have named called, but I have been waiting, for a couple of months ago RUBY GEE U WANT ANY womanizing werid O called us democrats stubid. Real Partism. Just who we want in the White House I wonder who wife number 4 will be. GEEZZZ JUDY GEE U WANT ANY GO BACK TO A supporter of SENATOR CLINTON Who is soon to be-
President Clinton

Monty, Vancouver, BC, Canada   September 15th, 2007 12:06 am ET

Didn't anyone read the Vanity Fair expose on Giuliani and his erractic, bizarre,inconsistent behavior which the mainstream media ignored? From my viewpoint here in Canada this whole election whoop de doo is amazing. It's costing a fortune. Good luck in sorting out the mess. Alas, our PM sucks up to Bushie nonstop.

QUINT, GRAND PRAIRIE TX   September 14th, 2007 11:52 pm ET

If we Democrats elect Hillary as the nominee this is what the General election is goona be about.Since shes running on his experience and accomplishments she has to take the good with the bad.
1.Bills Infedelities (you know the names.)
2.Bills failure to capture Osama bin Laden, after having several chances.
3.Her invovlement with Whitewater +all the other so called scandals
4.Her decision to vote for the Iraq War
5.Her lack of judgement And her speach made before her vote saying Iraq and Alqaeda had connections, though that very report she didnt stated clearly no connection.
6.Norman Hsu
7.Lincoln bed room and all the other money fueled scandals.
8.Allegations she hired She has so much Private Investigators to harass bills girlfriends
Hillary has so much baggage by Nov independants and moderate repubs are gonna be so turned off theyll vote for the independant candidate or the republican.
I hope im wrong but i know im right. And you Know it as well.

Hillargy Bogo, Gulfport, Mississippi   September 14th, 2007 11:47 pm ET

Hillary wants "change" ?? Does this mean more illegal campane contributions ?

Or does this mean more 911s ??

Please explain your self Hillary ??

And you idiots at CNN please explain yourself as well.

anna, Appleton, WI   September 14th, 2007 11:46 pm ET

Clinton has INDEED changed her views according to what's popular. I was once a supporter of her but not any longer. This is far from the first time she's done it and I've heard and seen enough.

Jack Wallace Brooklyn New York   September 14th, 2007 11:30 pm ET

The Democrats and Move on have resorted to childlike name calling when they disagree with a persons views and opinions. This is the worlds stage you are playing on not a schoolyard. How about a little maturity and class? Seriously, calling the General or the President a liar because you do not agree with them does not, or should not help your stance. If you have facts then present them to the public. Based on the
merits of those facts the public will decide. Keep the name calling to the 6th graders.

Bill W, Coatesville, PA   September 14th, 2007 11:28 pm ET

They are correct – Hillary is a flip-flopper who was for the war before she was against it. That is an indesputable FACT, and can be proven and verified.

And like Giuliani, she also supports not only illegal immigration and amnesty, but she also suports outsourcing US jobs. She brought the number one outsourcer of US jobs to India into New York.

And you would vote for her, why? OH yeah, her husband is Bill Clinton and you want Bill back in the White House, even if it as "First Husband".

Now how stupid does that sound? Again, please vote on ISSUES, not celebrity status or name recognition. 4 years from now, you won't care what celebrities supported who in the election. But you will care when you don't have a job, don't have healthcare, can't get a mortgage, gas and heating oil are unaffordable, your kids school is overcrowded, your taxes go up, and people are still dying in an endless war.

THOSE, my friends, are real issues. And where does YOUR candidate stand on any of them?

Bo, fayetteville, NC   September 14th, 2007 11:28 pm ET

Why is it that Hillary Clinton cannot answer for herself? Everytime this happens, only her spokesmen speak for her? Is this damage control? She is no longer relevant. Just vote Fred Thompson and end this idea of American royalty (Clinton/Kennedy).

Jack Wallace Brooklyn New York   September 14th, 2007 11:26 pm ET

The Democrats and Move on have resorted to childlike name calling when they disagree with a persons views and opinions. This is the worlds stage you are playing on not a schoolyard. How about a little maturity and class? Seriously, calling the General or the President a liar, because you do not agree with them, does not, or should not help your stance. If you have facts, then present them to the public. Based on the merits of those facts the public will decide. Keep the name calling to the 6th graders.

Ed, Englewood, Colorado   September 14th, 2007 11:22 pm ET

Rudi needs to drop his cross dressing past and act very tough and conservative. Good attempt. What does the right wing think?

Tommye J Winkley, San Antonio, TX   September 14th, 2007 11:04 pm ET

Well, now, all this outrage over a suggestion that a military general may have lied or "distorted the facts"....This would not be the first time a military general lied, would it? I recall the illustrious retired General Colin Powell lied "big time", or distorted the facts about WMD in the push to go to war. Another example of Republican lack of courage and blind devotion to politics: told untruths because it was expedient to the advancement of the flawed policy of an accidental boy-president, full of his own hubris and arrogance.

Roy Trott   September 14th, 2007 10:48 pm ET

...so Giuliani actually BELIEVES Petraeus? I didn't think anyone actually believed he was anything except an Oval Office messenger.

Hal, Lakeville, MN   September 14th, 2007 10:45 pm ET

Who cares? Both Rudy and Hillary want to continue to take liberty away from the American people. Forget both of them, go to RonPaul2008.com and vote for freedom in 2008!

Peter, Wausau, WI   September 14th, 2007 10:42 pm ET

Who's worse? Rudy or Hillary? That's a hard one to call, but just vote for Fred Thompson in 2008.

ab Concord, North Carolina   September 14th, 2007 10:41 pm ET

Good Ole Rudy Giuliani. Another typical Republican disgrace. All he can do is try to attack Mrs. Clinton because he knows that when it comes down to the "real issues" the Republicans don't have a chance. The Republicans always try to use abortion and homosexuality to sidetrack American voters when in reality the Republican party has a very large number of homosexuals (as indicated in recent Republican scandals such as Mark Foley,Ted Haggard,Toe tapping Craig,etc.) Also, as far as the abortion issue the Republicans had complete power at all levels from January of 2001 until November of 2006 and did not get Roe vs. Wade overturned. So now that those issues are out of the way then let's look at what the Republicans have given us. An unwinnable civil war started for no reason with thousands of our men and women dying,hatred toward our country from the whole world, a multi trillion dollar surplus (thanks to President Clinton and VP Gore) turned in to a multi trillion dollar deficit, people dying because they lack health care insurance, a steady diet of 3 dollar a gallon gasoline, foreclosures in record numbers, fraudulent elections, an all out assault on the middle class and poor, constant catering to the extremely wealthy and big oil companies,and the list goes on and on and on and on. Yeah those Republicans sure are the party of morals and values huh? So I ask you my fellow Americans? Are you better off today than you were under President Clinton and Vice President Gore? I didn't think so. May God Bless our country and restore sanity back to it in 2008. Vote Democrat!!!! Thank You

Joe Virostek Seven Fields PA   September 14th, 2007 9:56 pm ET

Isn't it a failed Clinton Presidency that left the terrorists on our front porch; so let's blaim the inheritor of the problem and then re-elect another failure (see health-care reform of 1990's). Voters, here's a tip: if you can't see this (fight against extremists) through, you'll be witnessing even tougher circumstances that you haven't imagined. I'd hate to see how this generation would have handled itself in previous historical epic challenges.

Jason, Omaha NE   September 14th, 2007 9:50 pm ET

Why is he wasting his time, he's not going to get the nomination.

Sharon, Corona, Ca   September 14th, 2007 9:46 pm ET

Hillary is a coward. She'll only appear on programs like Larry "I love a celebrity" King because he asks softball questions. Let's see if she can stand up to some real interrogation. She's two faced and and insincere. I don't trust her.

Jon C Johnson   September 14th, 2007 9:46 pm ET

Rudy is a hack that has been living off of 911 since 9/11/2001. He is a parrot of George HW Bush sewing seeds of fear to the USA with his terrorists/al quaida O MY mantra.

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 14th, 2007 9:36 pm ET

Its a sad state of affairs when anyone would believe Hillary. I read the different posts and think just how sad it is when Hillary supporters truly believe their rhetoric – the country needs a moderate...there is one running (only one) Rudy...like him or hate him...he is the only moderate on either side – running Rudy will draw some Dems over ...as well as the majority independents. After all – aren't we all socially liberal...and fiscally conservative?? (I'm a Republican – and thats exactly where I am) – Democrats...Hillary is a far left candidate...you will polarize the voting base...all Republicans will vote for "anyone but the lying snake left winger(socialist) Hillary" – and the independents will also follow suit – all dems will do what they have been trained to do...hide their heads in the sand...and believe the baseless rhetoric they are spoon fed....yes...you are that sad.

Raymond, El Paso TX   September 14th, 2007 9:20 pm ET

Well, well, so Rudy's essentially calling Hillary a flip-flopper, although I noticed he wouldn't use the word. Well Rudy, you ARE the ultimate flip-flopper!

Here's Rudy in a nutshell – I'm a Democrat ...oh no wait, I'm really a Republican and by the way, this is my wife ...no wait, this is my wife ...no wait, really, this is my wife. Nice to know you're a true Catholic and stick to your beliefs ...you are still a Catholic right?

And to be telling Hillary to denounce the Moveon.org ad. Funny how he wasn't so righteous during McCain's character assassination by BU$H much less denouncing him when he went after Kerry.

Hmm, maybe I really do want him to be the Republican candidate. GO RUDY!

Will, Chicago, IL   September 14th, 2007 9:18 pm ET

Giuliani, why are you stealing a play from the Donald Trump playbook? (Don't you know "The Donald" just made himself look as ignorant as Rosie in his attacks on her).

Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky   September 14th, 2007 9:09 pm ET

Steve, is English your second laguage? English is my third language but I understood better than you. Hillary didn't call Patraeus as a liar, you lied just now to the public. Hillary has direct business with General's testimony as Armed Service Committee and as candidate for the next President of USA. I am sure you didn't understand Whitewater story too. I wouldn't open my mouth if it is not sure.

E.R., Wilmington, NC   September 14th, 2007 9:01 pm ET

His attack reeks of desperation and loss of personal control.

timbuck, houston, texas   September 14th, 2007 8:55 pm ET

Giuliani (i don't have enough respect for him to bother looking up the spelling) is as deluded as bush. Go MoveOn.org. You are doing great work!

steve Loudon, TN   September 14th, 2007 8:54 pm ET

Hillary and the other attendees at the left wing kos meeting are simply panderers, liars, thieves, and basically commie light. Calling one of the country's most respected, apolitical 4 star general a liar BEFORE even hearing his testimony and that of the much respected diplomat Crocker shows the despotic and desperate mindset of the far left DEms. The enemy is the thieves who try to steal the electoral rights of Americans, like Hsu who gave millions to Democrats and thanked publicly as "my friend" by the former president Clinton. Traitors all who won't denounce this. Scum at the very least. Shameful for sure. Who stole the Democratic Party...I used to be one until I woke up to the theft.

Michael, San Jose, California   September 14th, 2007 8:53 pm ET

Go Rudy!

I find it amazing that the democrats have such "short-term" memory when it comes to our Nation's actions in Iraq.

Ed NC   September 14th, 2007 8:39 pm ET

I have yet to run into one person who admits that he/she is for Hillary.

John S. Tark, Concord, NH   September 14th, 2007 8:35 pm ET

I think we should change the political process that decides who the candidates and the winners are, or should that be weeners, before a single vote is cast. There is no choice anymore. Not even in NH.

Hank, Palm Springs, CA   September 14th, 2007 8:24 pm ET

Obama and Edwards are probably saying, "what about me?" ... obviously Guiliani knows Clinton is "in to WIN!"

bob, laguna beach, ca   September 14th, 2007 8:10 pm ET

Giuliani is a nitwit.

Mike Boldt, Buffalo NY   September 14th, 2007 8:00 pm ET

Hillary should renounce MoveOn.org 24 hours after Giuliani, Romney, Thompson and McCain renounce Rush, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, and Fox News. Those loudmouths also engage in character assassination, and intolerance, and have no official links to any of the GOP candidates.

Roberto, Tampa FL.   September 14th, 2007 7:58 pm ET

As an Obama supporter, I'm glad my candidate has been getting some nice press for his plan to fix the Iraq mess and for the support he has among blacks in South Carolina, who make up 50% of the voters in that state. Let's not forget all the press he's got thanks to his fundraising successes.

Let Hillary deal with attacks, troubled donors, while our grassroots effort takes over Iowa, SC and the whole nation...

Rose Hann, New London, CT   September 14th, 2007 7:57 pm ET

Giuliani is a coward. Before 9/11 he was on the cover of eveery rag sheet known because of his shameful display of infidelity and no compassion. His lack of leadership after the 1993 WTC bombing, he failed miserably. How many fire fighters and police officers could have been saved had he followed the reccomdations.
Iraq study group meetings? No show. I can't wait to see the swiftboat hate group and we will, RUDY will let it happen. He's a liar suggesting Senator Clinton had anything to do with MoveOn.org. She has nothing to with this independent group.
He needs to worry about getting speech lessons.
RRH, CT

CL in TN   September 14th, 2007 7:54 pm ET

Rudy is running scared. He's lied so much and the 9/11 thing was getting a little old so he has to think of something to say.

Ronald C   September 14th, 2007 7:50 pm ET

Giuliani is slipping in the poles, sounds like sour grapes...he's looks pretty desperate...

Hillary is the only choice for President

John, San Diego, CA   September 14th, 2007 7:46 pm ET

Hillary Clinton probably changed her view of the Iraq war because she realized after the truth came out that the reasons for the invasion by the administration were false.

A. Thomas, New York, NY   September 14th, 2007 7:38 pm ET

Giuliani is a monday night quarterback in criticing Hillary. He forgot that it was his republican party and George Bush that fed the senate, congress and the american people with wrong intelligence info about Iraq to gain their support.

In other words, Hillary and the american people were cheated by Bush and the republican party. If Giuliani were in the senate at that time, he would have supported the war too as a republican. As far as the Iraq war is concerned. Giuliani has agreed 100% of what Bush said.

Giuliani has made tons of money himself in his personal security companies after 9/11. However, he did nothing in preventing 9/11 in NY, or has done anything significant for the american public since.

Giuliani is the one-eye man in the republican kingdom of blinds.

Rob Harris   September 14th, 2007 7:33 pm ET

Clinton stood quietly by...Giuliani puts it on the cover of CNN. If he really cared so much he would quit directing traffic to it.

Mike Canfield, Cleveland, ohio   September 14th, 2007 7:16 pm ET

Bet the Obama people HATE this attention Clinton is getting...

Steve Wittlake Blaine Washington   September 14th, 2007 6:52 pm ET

Neither Hillary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani are acceptable candidates. Hillary has no business calling Patraeus as a liar. Additionally what about Whitewater? What about Giuliani's support for illegal aliens in New York City. Both are a disgrace to the American people.

papa_rod   September 14th, 2007 6:39 pm ET

BIG deal! How about some real politics instead of pot shotting each other.

David, Los Angeles, CA   September 14th, 2007 6:32 pm ET

Hillary is going to smash these clowns in the general election. The Republicans would have a fighting chance against her, except that their candidates are so bad the Democrats could nominate Daffy Duck and still have a 5 point margin of victory.

This attack reeks of desperation. Hillary obviously has nothing to do with MoveOn.org, is not the favorite candidate of MoveOn.org, and has not supported the ad. Why attack her? Sounds like he's afraid of her.

The more the GOP keeps up these brainless, vitriolic attacks on Hillary, the more the rest of us know she must be doing something right.

Chris (Boston, MA)   September 14th, 2007 6:31 pm ET

This was an excellent video. I encourage everyone to see it. If the liberal media won't call her out on her roundabout way of calling a distinguished general a liar or for her silence as a left wing organization tears down his character, then this is the right thing to do. Hillary Clinton needs to be held to account for the way that she's conducted herself. An apology would be highly appropriate, though I doubt we will see one.

Bill, Streamwood, IL   September 14th, 2007 6:29 pm ET

Jeez, it doesn't take much to set Rudy off these days does it?

I can hardly believe that this is the same man who ran NYC and kept his cool during 9/11 and after. I mean if a couple of ads gives him apoplexy now, what would a world crisis do to him as president? Where is his perspective?Looks like the cool as a cucumber Rudy is history.

He was on my short-list of three viable candidates for the Republican presidenial nominee. The list is now down to two.

Jeannie, Sacramento, CA   September 14th, 2007 6:28 pm ET

***yawn*** This wanna-be Republican who can't measure up to any conservative standard has a true identity crisis and needs to get off his purported 9/11 success.

Jason, San Antonio TX   September 14th, 2007 6:26 pm ET

Republicans must rely on slashing people like Hillary Clinton because they dont have anything to run on now that the majority of the nation has seen how incapable they (Republicans) are of leading.

Phil, Shawnee Mission Kansas   September 14th, 2007 6:24 pm ET

Hillary's actions over the last week show that she will easily give into popularity polls and far left groups.

Is she even presidential material after the way she conducted herself this week?

Jared Portland Oregon   September 14th, 2007 6:22 pm ET

Extremist splinter groups?

Are you now using Bush's terrorist lingo in referring to an organization that provides a different point of view (slanted but true) than mainstream media?

If the Repubs want the Dems to renounce MoveOn.org, I would like to see THEM renounce the slanderous and ridiculous reports that Fox News drums up.

Its the same thing, but on the other foot and the right wing just cannot take that. Hypocritical in every way.

VG, NY,NY   September 14th, 2007 6:20 pm ET

Typical of Giuliani and the GOP to attack Clinton for something she has not control over. Also typical that anybody who questions this war and this administration is characterised in a negative light. You know last time I checked Freedom of Speech was a right (not a privilege) granted by our Constitution. I know Giuliani well having lived in NY for most of my life – I don't trust him.

Ron, TX   September 14th, 2007 6:18 pm ET

The pot's calling the kettle black. Rudy probably road away in a swift boat after his attack on Camp HRC...

alan St Louis MO   September 14th, 2007 6:05 pm ET

This bone head is desperate.

1) Bush cronies in the intel decieved us all. You cant blame just Clinton you have to blame majoriity of the united states. But when the truth was exposed she did the right thing. what was she proposed to do. Go into a deep slumber sleep like the rest of the republicans and be completely out of touch with america.

2) Clinton does not own moveon.org

3) you just attaking becuse Thompson is about to steal your thunder. Like it matter which bone head runs for GOP

David, Gilbert Arizona   September 14th, 2007 6:00 pm ET

Giuliani will never be acceptable to conservatives. He has too much history as a liberal republican. Bashing Clinton isn't going to make all that history suddenly go away.

I don't like Hillary and would never vote for her because I don't think we can afford all of her regulations and programs in our current economy. Even so I think Giuliani is wrong to link Hillary to a Moveon.org ad. It makes him look desperate.

Veronica, Stamford, CT   September 14th, 2007 5:59 pm ET

Does Rudy think Hillary's the only one running for president? Does he also think that MoveOn is Hillary's campaign in disguise?? Me thinks Mr. Guiliani best get out and open his eyes a little more. I'd really like to see where Rudy denounced the Swift-Boaters in 2004 and Uncle Karl in 2000 and 2004. Fake outrage from a fake – how fitting.

Mac, Severn, Md   September 14th, 2007 5:56 pm ET

MoveOn.Org has claimed to own the Democrat party. They seem to own the Democrat candidates. The candidates don't want to disagree with MoveOn.Org because it gets a lot of hits on its web site and the candidates don't want to alienate those bloggers.

VanReuter NY NY   September 14th, 2007 5:50 pm ET

If I'm Clinton's campaign, I'm thanking my lucky stars and laughing all the way to the bank with way more than the 800k plus they lost in the Hsu scandal. It gives her more street cred with the MO and Kos people, won't cost her a VOTE in NYC, (Though maybe some elsewhere in the state, maybe not.) while attracting even more of the anti-war vote. It is a total win for her. The question is, why? Why would Rudy latch on to this almost non-issue, to take a hard stand?

He needs her HELP! He needs her as a foil he can attack to try to recapture the the supporters he's hemorrhaging to Fred, strengthen his street cred with the republican base, (and they hate Hillary even more than the people here) and taint her with the military, if he winds up running against her.
It's a bold,and in other ways a panic move, an attempt at a big lie that is like going for broke, as if he knows that the way Fred is trending, he could soon be third or FOURTH in the polls. Rudy is a front-runner, in more ways than one; If he falls behind Thompson (and it looks like he will) and feels that he isn't going to win, he could surprise everyone and drop out FAST. This could be his , "let it all hang out", round and if he doesn't score the knockout, he may quit on his stool.
He has to know that in the short run, he is much more certain of helping Hillary with this ad than he is himself, so this is in many ways also a tactical, long-range move. If the national publicity the ad is sure to garner helps him regain and maintain his lead and go on to win the republican nomination, he has set himself up for how he wants to run against ANY democrat, that he is strong and will protect you and the democrat won't.
My guy Edwards and Obama are both seen as easy to campaign against on the security issue (It's the only issue the republicans are still trusted on) for Rudy, but Clinton has been able to stake out some gravitas, in part because of being on the Armed Services Committee , so the ad sets him up to, "define", her as being anti-military.
If it works, he wins the nomination and has a perceived soft-spot to attack (If Clinton is his opponent). If it helps her, but he continues to deflate, he'll be like Wile E. Coyote, falling into the canyon with a bomb in his hand as the Road-Runner zips past, unharmed, "Beep-Beep", Rudy.

rob russo, new canaan, ct   September 14th, 2007 5:44 pm ET

Hillary needs to denounce the Moveon.org organization to have any credibility in the future race for president. She (& other democratic candidates) are showing amateur chops by siding with extremest splinter groups!

James Harris, New York, New York   September 14th, 2007 5:36 pm ET

Not only is it not her organization, not only has she NOT expressed support for the ad, not only does MoveOn.org not even endorse Hillary Clinton, but why is he attacking Hillary in particular? He might as well be attacking me. I haven't denounced the ad either. Nor will I, by the way, because I happen to think Petraeus is a liar. But Clinton's never called him that, let alone accused him of betraying anybody. This is pure vintage Giuliani.

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