Oops…, lost those votes.

AIPAC's power is shown here. A congressman says what almost everyone in Washington knows to be true, but are afraid to say, and he is threatenned with a primary challenge which will probably be funded by AIPAC. The story shows that no one attempts to disprove his statement, but rather state that he just can't say it out loud. AIPAC will attack anyone who criticizes Israel for anything, or shows sympathy for the people living under their occupation. How did a groop representing 3% of our population get so much power? now there's a story that will never be examined in our corporate mass media.

I agree with Moran. The entire basis of PNAC was the support of Israel and the security of it's borders.
He shouldn't be blasted, it's the truth..Why did Perle and Feith and that crew go and visit Netenhau (sp) in the first place back in the late 90's, if Israel wasn't one of ther primary factors with drumming up a war against Iraq?

It's about time !!!

I never thought of my hometown area — Northern Virginia — as an anti-semetic place, but Moran keeps saying these things and keeps getting elected, so I guess it is. Shameful.

He is right and from what I understand if we speak in prophetic terms the US should just stay away from that region, its a heavy burden for us to carry plus Israel may not be as strong as the US but Israel will survive alone trust me.

So, for speaking the truth, he should "retract his statment"? Seriously, people, WAKE THE HELL UP! It doesn't matter if you vote Republican or Democrat (in most cases), because either way you'll end up getting corrupt, self-serving scum! If you sheep would finally start to realize this, our country would become a much better place.

And then, we have Ron Paul. He certainly sticks out like a sore thumb in this race, doesn't he? Oh, maybe that's because he is HONEST, PRINCIPLED and UP-FRONT with all of the IMPORTANT issues that face this country and threaten its demise. Wake up, people, this is our country.

Ah yes… classic move…
When all else fails, blame the Jews.

Can we ask for this guy's head on a platter now?

He is right; maybe American people will wake up and see who is really calling the shots.
We didn’t need that war, it was not in our interest.

There's no room in Washington for such racist ideology regardless of which side of the aisle it comes from!

Your hometown is not anti-semetic. What Moran is saying is the truth. It is not the Jewish people, as a whole, it is Pearle, Wolfowitz - and others who are part of PNAC and the Bush administration. One the one hand, I am happy to see people knowing this and speaking up, but on the other hand, it is immediately thought of as "anti-semetic." My husband is Jewish, I am not an anti semite, but I am anti Bush, anti war, anti Cheney, anti APAC, anti Pearle, anti Wolfowitz…these people are war mongers. Moran should have said it in a way that would not immediately label him as an anti semite b/c that is always the argument, and then things are hushed up. These people are so greedy - they are all in it for the oil, for power, it has nothing to do with terrorism. Wake up America. Moran - keep saying what you're saying.

Just because he is criticizing the position and actions of a lobbying group does not mean he is anti-semetic. That phrase is used far too often anytime someone criticizes Israel.

Speaking truth got one Hebrew beheaded & another nailed to a cross about 2,000 years ago.

The Jewish lobby, Aipac, is the largest lobbying organization in this country. They control congress, and act in the interest of Israel, not the United States. This nothing more than legalized bribary. They should all be tried for treason.

David "B" wrong wrong wrong ,

NORTHERN VIRGINIA is not anti JEW ,just anti AIPAC , it is about time this was said by someone in some sort of elected office. The same can be said of the last war in Lebanon, the whole mideast conflict has to do with the JEWS taking over.

Remember before 1948 there was no ISREAL ,only Palestine.

Jews are useing same tactics against Palestine as NAZI's did in Poland in 1939.

These comments are not anti-semitic. Anyone who declares this as such is aggressively abusing the term. He is speaking the truth that everyone knows but no one (in Washington) is willing to say.

It wasn't a lobbying group that was "behind the invasion of Iraq," it was the President of the United States. If you're saying Bush is so easily swayed that a lobbying group could talk him into war, then there's just one more reason he should be impeached and tried for war crimes.

David B from Virginia,

How do you consider Moran's statement against a lobby group to be 'anti-semitic'? By the same logic, our accusations of the regimes in Iran and North Korea are anti-Muslim and anti-Asian.

Dear Mr. Moran:

PAC like the jewish PAC excert power, not because they are well organizez, as you claim, but becasue people in positions like your ALLOW them to have power BY BENDING TO THEIR DESIRES!!!!!

People miss the point when the associate comments like this as being anti-semetic. Moran is not saying that Jewish Americans are behind the war. He is saying that a powerful Jewish Lobby is behind it.

Just because he is criticizing an organization that is Jewish doesn't mean his is criticizing Jews. Anyone who does a quick study on AIPAC will see that the organization has some disturbing influence. And, I am friends with many Jewish people, who see the same way.

He's just finally verbalizing what has been very well known regarding AIPAC. Thankfully at least one of our politicians has the guts to state the obvious.

It's just a shame and a disgrace in this country that we have become so "politically correct" that an honest assessment of this situation can't be made without cries of antisemitism.

So because it's a Jewish organization, it wouldn't foment aggression against Muslim states?

Ludicrous.

I have believed that for some time. The silence of the Jewish community spoke and speaks volumes. Lieberman to this day has vociferously supported the war.

For once some one has the chuspa(sp?), as they say, to speak out about it

The antisemitism of the "new" Democratic party (see the Daily Kos etc) is finally appearing in Congress. It was just a matter of time.

BRAVO!, Finally politicians are not afraid of speaking out loud against this administration, directly or indirectly, it involves final decisions made in the oval office. It is not an attack on the Jewish community, but a slash at the activist within the Jewish community that, through political and economic pressure, can influence policy. He should not retract his statement; Corporate America is not ran by someone at the White House, is the power of the wallet that runs this country, elections are purely symbolic.

Senator Moran may not have the fact's correct on Aipac but it is true that the mainstream of American Jewish thinking etc. is very organized and are very powerful. They control this country and Israel is the 51 state of the union. Anytime anyone says anything that is true about Jews, they are labeled anti-semetic. You can dog any other culture, or race and that is okay but never say anything negative about Jewish people. Just take a good look at O J Simpson. It was not okay for OJ to publish that disgusting book but as soon as Goldman had it in his hands it was no longer a disgusting book. Guaranteed if Goldman was another Black man, Chinese or Mexican it would not have gotten that much attention. Tell me again who has the power in this country and who controls it. Just my opinion, but then who am I.

AIPAC may not "officially" have lobbied for the Iraq war, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A63578-2003Mar31?language=printer

To David B, from Viginia;

I'm not a Jew but I'm a Jewish sympathizer and I could tell you this that the day will come when not even this country will stand side by side with Israel and forget Europe.

Moran says that AIPAC is an "…organization aligned with the Bush Administration." That makes no sense. They are a PAC and will lobby whoever is in power.

To the others who have posted, was it Israel or oil that prompted the Iraq War? Or does it not matter to liberals as long as the war is criticized?

I wish the article was a little longer explaining why he felt this way… why AIPAC would want the war, etc.

In my estimaiton, it's a silly comment.

I'm Jewish, I'm opposed to the war in Iraq, and I've never had any association with AIPAC. The Congressman's statement amounts to nothing more than "Blame the Jews," which is, of course, increadibly offensive. Gross generalizations about religious or ethnic groups do not advance the political diologue in this country, and they should be rejected.

For starters, you're a guy who doesn't know the American government too well: Moran is a Congressman, not a Senator. Try reading the story next time.

The fact that people respond to criticism of AIPAC with "that's anti-semetic" just confirms that the criticism is well-founded.

The United States is not beholden to Israel. AIPAC is the most powerful special interest group in the US. AIPAC promotes the interest of Israel, not the US. Saying so is not "anti-semetic."

Because we oppose the policies pushed by AIPAC and the governemnt of the foreign nation of Israel we're anti-semetic?? He shouldn't apologize for telling the truth about a foreign nation that seems to be dicating US foreign policy in the Middle East.

To clarify, I'm referring to this statement: "In 2003, Moran apologized for saying Iraq would not have been invaded without the Jewish community's support."

Posted By William,Miami Fl : September 19, 2007 10:25 am

It's "chutzpah"

While Mr. Moran's constant criticism of the Jewish community certainly does scream anti-semitism, that's something his constituents need to take up with him as they are the ones who chose whether or not to reelect him. However, I do believe he does speaks truth to a certain degree. I can't help but think that Joe Lieberman's transparent motives in beating the war drum in Iraq and Iran are evidence of this.

TYPICAL ANTI SEMTIC COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE WHO INSIST THEY ARE NOT! NOT SUPRISED.

That is what I love about this country. There are people has the courage to tell the truth.

Some folks are just too sensitive. So Moran says that a Jewish organization supported the war. Why is that bad? Does that group represent all JEWS worldwide? An offense against one is an offence against all?

It's like saying that the Clintons are racist white rednecks because they were from the South. And of course we all know that only racist white rednecks live in the South!

When in doubt, blame the Jews.

Why can't the nation of Israel be criticized for something without being labeled an anti-Semite?

Does anyone out there not believe that what Moran says is true? The Jewish lobby exerts such sway over our government that we guarantee Israel's currency and natiional debt, and pay them 24 billion per year for absolutely nothing.

Finally, someone has the courage to tell the truth about the war and other parts of Us foreign policy. Why the lobby has any power over our affairs is a mystery to me, but they must be stopped and removed from any influence. I am so happy to see someone step and confront this issue and the lobby. thank you!

how did someone this ignorant get into office?

I am getting confused. I thought the Libs said the war was the work of the evil Bush-Cheney coalition, now they say it was the evil Jewish lobby. We wasted millions watching Sadddam during the Clinton years, even the most liberal Dems came out saying Saddam needed to be ousted, until Bush actually had the guts to do it. What will be the Libs answer tomorrow? Space aliens?

I think the congressman is correct. Unfortunately, anything said against a Jewish organization or person in North America or Europe is always spun in such a manner that the true message is lost. Jewish people are to be admired for the way the help each other and thrive, but in the process they overwhelm local populations with their power and issues.
There is no denying that that is the case in North America, and it will take more than one congressman to bring this to the forefront.
Although international relations are complex, there is no doubt that the green light Israel enjoys and the pro-Israeli policies of the United States do not come from limbo. And politicians can’t or won’t handle this hot potato.

Call me Anti-Semitic if you must, but when normally peaceful guys like Joe Libermann & Stephen Spielberg were frothing @ the mouth for "taking out Sadaam" it did make me scratch my head.

Would it be anti-semitic to say that AIPAC pushed for the war? Ask Steny Hoyer if it is inaccurate that AIPAC exerts power. If it doesn't exert power, why would Moran "take heat" for his comments or have his re-election challenged? There is nothing wrong with supporting Israel, to the contrary, but let's be clear that groups like AIPAC exert an undue amount of influence on U.S. foreign policy.

Scapegoating the jewish community for society's troubles? This sounds strangely familiar. Hmmm… I can't remember where this has happened before. I think the place where this has happened starts with a G and ends with an -ermany.

The congressman is an idiot spouting neonazi propaganda. As a Christian I am appalled and believe he needs to be, not only censored, but run out of town tarred and feathered. Why is it always Jewish people blamed for everything foolish administrations fail at? This guy is just too ignorant.

I guess Rep. Jim Moran should thank his lucky stars he wasn't Tazered for using his First Amendment Rights and speaking up on this subject.

So there is a lawmaker who has the guts to speak the truth……..telling the truth is Not antisemitic. However, it isn't hard to see that anytime you question AIPAC, you are called an antisemite. America, why do you think that is? I thought this was a nation which prides itself on free speech, but not when you question anything to do with the Jewish lobby or Israel. Talk about sacred cows! Don't you find it odd that Christianiy and Islam can be criticized and questioned everywhere we look, but the minute the word Jewish appears, everyone ducks, runs, points fingers, calls names and yes, threatens?

As a liberal Democrat living in Mr. Moran's congressional district, I am hanging my head in shame at the comments of my congressman. He is such an ardent foe of Israel, a beacon of liberalism, women's rights, free press, gay rights, and the rule of law….values that liberals such as myself (and sadly, not Mr. Moran), should embrace in a foreign country.

As a native Washingtonian I have always been aware that Israel could do not wrong in the eyes of the American government regardless of the party in power. I have asked many intelligent people why this is. To date I have received no answer. What have they got on us?

about time someone said it.

i'm surprised he was re-elected after his comments in 2003.
google AIPAC + Senator Percy

I am skeptical of Moran's claims especially since he does not back his claims with facts.

Saddam Hussein had so many enemies that there are trucks load of people who had much to gain in invading Iraq. For example, Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress were a major factor in the push to invade Iraq.

Indeed, Chalabi provided reports of weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to al-Qaeda –all of which has turned out to be false.

So, one can argue that Iraqis themselves, not the Jewish PAC, lobbied the U.S. government for the Iraq invasion.

It NEVER fails: criticize the state of Isreal's actions/politics/foreign policy, or make statements of FACT about AIPAC's influence over Congress -and the chicken littles plug their ears and scream, "antisemitism".

This old ploy to silence dissent is losing its punch - better think of something new to divert our attention. Hurry!

Moran is correct. There is a BIG difference between AIPAC whos loyalties belong to a select group in Israel and the American Jewish community. The American Jewish community are Americans just like the rest of us. AIPAC is a small group of people that DO have unacceptable influence in Washington and a cabal relationship with religious extremists in the USA.

People, especially our elected representatives, need to be very careful in discussing this issue because of the sensitivities on both sides. On the one hand, yes, AIPAC did not "officially" take a position on the war, but behind closed doors it was well-connected to the foreign policy establishment and certainly exerted influence, both within and outside the Bush administration. However, you can't paint the entire American Jewish community with a broad brush because of the activities of one (albeit, the largest and most influential) political action committee. Moran may have had the right intentions in highlighting the influence of that group, but, unfortunately, his comments open up a Pandora's Box of anti-Semitism. As a result, he should clarify is remarks and promote healthy discussion about the reasoning behind them. Finally, those who might hold negative opinions about AIPAC, or misguided beliefs about the influence of Jews in general, should not use this issue as a pretext for furthering their own anti-Semitic causes.

The best fundamental change that can come to the US government and the political system as a whole is the immediate banning of all special interest groups and lobbying groups, and their lawyers. Finally, a government by the people, for the people, with an end to corruption.

Moran is correct and it is a matter of fact. The Lawrence Franklin/Douglas Franklin Espionage scandal (also called the AIPAC Espionage scandal) makes this a matter of public record. The successful prosecution of this case proves this point.

AIPAC, the Israeli right wing, and the White House neo-con inner circle were behind the policy of invading Iraq.

It is a disgrace and shame that most of our politicians have their money-grubbing noses up the AIPAC derriere.

There is more freedom to discuss these issues openly in Israel (which I support in general), than in the USA. Our political and news machines are aligned with the Israeli far right, and the results have been tragic for Israel, the USA, the Palestinians, the Iraqis, and the world. We have been the worst enemy of Israel by supporting very poor strategy.

Why should he have to retract his comments when they are true?

What Moran said: AIPAC and the rest of Jewish lobby are very powerful and exert that power.

What Hoyer and the Jewish Lobby said he said: Jews control the U.S. government.

My opinion: The Jewish lobby exerts influence that is out of balance with the number of Jews in the U.S. population. The Jewish lobby's interests are often not the same as what U.S. interests should be. Moran spoke the truth now he is being attacked as an anti-Semite.

AIPAC has in fact, been pushing for this war for years. Just look at Lieberman's stance on it.
The US is fighting a proxie war (occupation) on Iraq for two reasons: oil and Israel. Period.

It is sad to read these comments. I suppose the myth of the Jewish conspiracy is alive and well. Why did I ever think otherwise?

I too believe that certain special interest groups wield too much power, but that goes for all of them. Where is the hysteria over Lockheed Martin, NRA, the Corn Lobby, the Irish lobby, the Christian Right and on and on. We could try to blame each of them for all kinds of stupid decisions made by our elected government.

That's right, we elected these leaders. The U.S. is a democratic republic. Bush, Congress, and half of this country believed that the invasion was justified. You can't blame one lobby for that mistake. You shouldn't fall back on the Jewish conspiracy, blame Israel, and hate the few when we are all responsible for our government's actions.

You would have to be a nimrod to not believe that we are fighting Israel's war. Of course we are.

Not only do we give Israel billions of US tax dollars (when we are broke ourselves) but we also spend billions towards this war and shed the blood of US Citizens on Israel's behalf.

Shame on all of the politicians who lack the courage to stand up and say what all Americans understand - we cannot be Israels benefactor forever.

I support this American Patriot of a Senator to stand up to AIPAC and FINALLY state what is obvious to those who care And are paying attention. He speaks the truth, but will surely be labed and libeled as antisemitic. Support this man, and urge your local representatives to do the same, and help eject AIPAC from our hallowed halls in Washington. Israel should influence nothing in American politics, lest we continue down this darkening path toward Iran.

rful. They control this country and Israel is the 51 state of the union. Anytime anyone says anything that is true about Jews, they are labeled anti-semetic. You can dog any other culture, or race and that is okay but never say anything negative about Jewish people. Just take a good look at O J Simpson. It was not okay for OJ to publish that disgusting book but as soon as Goldman had it in his hands it was no longer a disgusting book. Guaranteed if Goldman was another Black man, Chinese or Mexican it would not have gotten that much attention. Tell me again who has the power in this country and who controls it. Just my opinion, but then who am I.

What the senator said is 100% true. Until when the US will stay Israel's slave? all what the US is getting from that is hostality from the world and more terrorism.

When will Anti-Semites, like Moran, come to grip with the fact that Israel is our only dependable ally in the entire Middle Eastern region? Israel is virtually the only democratic nation in the entire, unstable area, and Israel supports American policy, ideology and way of life. Moran clearly allows his hatred and jealousy of the Jewish people and nation to infiltrate his political positions.

J. Moran's comments are ignorant. The Jewish community, just like Americans as a whole are divided over the wisdom of the Iraq war. Moran attempts to distance himself from claims of Anti-Semitism by claiming that AIPAC is a mouthpiece for Bush. Anyone who knowns anything about AIPAC or the American Jewish community knows that these groups are not in the back pocket of GWB. Jews tend to vote heavily Democratic.

Mr. Moran is right on the money. It is good to have someone who is not afraid to say the truth.

I am shocked by the offensive remarks by this idiot Congressman. However, I am even more shocked by the anti-Semetic tone of the comments by a lot of the CNN community that has e mailed their thoughts. It is shocking that so many of the comments agree with this bigot. This lawmaker should resign immediately. He is clearly prejudiced, and his record proves this. It is sad to see comments that agree with anti-semitism. You might disguise the
anti semitism with psuedo-intellectual arguements: but the ugly truth comes out loud and strong in a lot of the previous comments. Unfortunately, we have a lot of ignorant bigots in this country.

Moran's comments were questionable, but the bigotry displayed in these comments is disgusting.

Jews rule the world? And whites have no rhythm. And black men can't be trusted around white women. And Germans love war. And Japanese are good with electronics. The Irish are drunks. Latinos smell. Give it a rest.

It's about time we stopped thinking like the 12th century, isn't it?

INSTEAD OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ISRAELI LOBBY MR.MORAN SHOULD BE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT COMING TO THE UN WHEN THEY USE OUR FLAGS AS DOOMATS IN IRAN TO STEP ON. HE SHOULD BE EXERTING HIS POWER POSITIVELY

The U.S. & Israel have been partners in crime for decades now! It's time to end this criminal relationship!

My wife is a Jewish American and even she agrees with his statement. We both also question why America uses the "untied nations resolution # blah, blah, blah, when referring to other countries (such as Iraq, Iran) yet do nothing to make Israel abide by resolutions passed that required them to remove themselves from pre war land. Making statements against Israel is not anti-semetic. Read what Semetic is sometime and you will find that the Jewish people are not the only semites. Stop using the wrong term.

Of course. Plus the filthy country they represent is behind most of the worlds ills - terrorism.

It totally dissussed me to think we give billions upon billion of dollars to the Israels every year so they can continue there one sided effort to wipe Palestine off the map.

The so called country of Israel needs to be split in half, so the Palestinians can have 1 country, not the 2 little separate pieces they have and Jeruselum needs to be made a separate entity similar to what the Vatican is in Rome, one that can be shared by all the worlds people and not controlled excusively by the Jews.

If this Jewish orginization and other Jews are supportive of the Iraq war why aren't they serving in our military? Jews make up about 2% of the U.S. population (5-6 million) but you could probably count those who serve without taking your shoes off.

It is a shame that this kind of statement is coming from a U.S Congressman. Makes one to wonder how he got relected into that office. He is not well informed about the WAR it seems. He knows nothing about that region and nothing about the threat that Saddam posed to the world oil market. It is sad to blame AIPAC for the WAR. People are crying over paying almost $3.00 for a gallon of gasoline. Saddam wanted to control the entire oil market if he had the opportunity and we would have been paying $50-$100 if he did because he hated U.S so much. That is why he invaded Kuwait in 1990. Saddam posed to the world as if he had nuclear weapon and the world watched the drama between him and the U.N inspectors. We all watched him dancing on the streets of Baghdad on 9/11. Everybody believed he was a danger to the world because he was a mad man. Almost everyone in the U.S supported the war including majority of our law makers. U.S was winning the war in IRAQ until the Media started broadcasting pictures from Abu Ghraib Prison and that was when the war took a different turn and they started killing U.S soldiers. Any right leader would have done what President Bush did. To think otherwise would have been catastrophic for America. The war would have come to us whether we liked it or not just like it did on 9/11 because America did nothing after the Embassy bombing, USS Cole bombing, 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Let us not forget. History will prove George Bush right and one of the greatest Presidents America ever had. Americans and Politicians especially should stop bad mouthing the war while our soldiers are there risking their lives. We should be praying for them and praying for wisdom for our President on how to end the war and bring our troops home.

Thank you all for your time.

I agree that AIPAC pushed for the war. But, as Moran pointed out, they do NOT represent the majority of American Jews. I am one, and they certainly don't stand for what I believe in. I also think that it is naive to believe that it was ONLY AIPAC support that caused the war: what about our concern about oil? what about the "America as an Empire" meglomania from people like Rumsfeld and Cheney? Neither of the two is Jewish and it is a massive stretch of imagination to believe that they would be shouldered aside by AIPAC. And what abbout the Christians who believe that supporting Israel will bring Jesus back? All of these things were factors - and none were important enough on their own.

Why should he have to retract a true statement or be accused of "anti semitism" for speaking about about the pro-Israel Lobby and our one sided support for Israel. Questioning our support of Israel and Israel's military and Palestinian policies does not equal anti semitism!

When someone says something negative about Israel or the Jewish Lobby, certain people rise and claim that he said "a conspiracy controls the U.S. government", then that conspiracy that doesn't exist rises up and tries to take him out. Happens every time.

I'm only surprised that he stopped just a bit short of saying that AIPAC and the Elders of Zion drink blood. Maybe next time…

Cries of anti semitism chill the debate about how we got into this mess and shame on the Democrats for not standing up for free and open debate.

Jimmy Carter offered his criticism of the matter…now he's labled an anti semite.

American Jews influence the country's policies in the mideast…significantly. That's a fact. It's their right as Americans to do so. But if they supported the war in Iraq, they must answer for it jsut as the President must.

It's no different than the influence that Cuban-American's have regarding our long suffering embargo against Cuba.

Absolutely excellent!
The truth needs to be spoken, and when it is, just look at who is offended by it and speaks out about it, and steer clear!

I agree with Moran.

I never thought any US congressperson would have the guts to say the obvious. They are all so afraid.

Clearly, the Israeli lobby is pushing the US to invade its neighbors (Iraq, Iran) for "free" defense.

The Israeli lobby buys the US congress with tons of campaign donations and threats of bad publicity.

Anyone ever notice that you cannot say anything negative about Israel or jewish people with out getting blasted. Look at the whole Palestinian/Israel fiasco. That place is a mess, why? because due to their beliefs a religious sect feels they have the right to displace others.

He is telling the truth and the negative way this was reported (comment about the fact that he will probably lose his job) shows that the Jewish community controls the media.

It's sad that political pressure groups think they can influence policies, but then hide behind religion when singled out for their lobbying activities. And if they don't want to be seen as a pressuring group, LOOK AT WHAT THE VERY DEFINITION OF YOUR ORGANIZATION IS!

It looks like the anti-Semites are popping up all over. The invasion of Iraq did nothing for Israel. The status quo before the war, a declawed Saddam Hussein being hemmed in with internationally-enforced no-fly zones, was perfect for Israel.

If the fantasy of the bigots were true, why wouldn't Israel have made a huge military move to push out many Palestinians (like the ones that danced in the streets on 9/11) at the same time?

The Israelis were sophisticated enough to realize that Bush, Jr's plan would be disastrous (like the older Bush also predicted) because it would have the effect of strengthening their worst enemy: Iran. Also, having permanent American bases in Iraq actually reduces Israel's importance in the region, so saying that AIPAC pushed the invasion for Israel's benefit is just anti-Semitic garbage.

If all America does is fight Israel's wars why weren't American GIs on the ground defending Israel from invasion in 1948, 56, 68, 73??

And for all those who complain that AIPAC has too much power, why don't you don't do something about it and create your own lobby? Whatever power AIPAC has it worked hard to get that. It sounds like commenters on this board want that power usurped but don't want to spend any time or money to build their own network of lobbying power. How very un-American of you.

He tells the truth…America let's listen

It is absurd that critics of AIPAC have to defend themselves against broad charges of anti-Semitism. AIPAC is a neoconservative Israeli lobby and as numerous polls show, does not represent the prevailing views of Jews / Israelis on issues pertaining to the war, inter alia. I'm glad Moran has had the courage to call out AIPAC for what it is.

The American people and our Senators have every right to question the motives of AIPAC. If you think they don't have undue influence ask yourself why Joe Leiberman is the only member of the Senate suggesting Gen. Petraus should invade Iran! He's the one voters should oust.

For a detailed analysis of the AIPAC's influence check out "The Israel Lobby" by John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt

How dare all of you. The victim mentality in this country is out of control. No one is admitting mistakes, no one is willing to step up to the blame , and now you place the cause a war on a group of people who make an easy scape goat. You must fear and hate Muslims, for they are violent and uncivilized. You must fear and hate Socialists because they threaten your pocket book. You must fear and hate the Jewish, for they are manipulative and conniving. You know what that sounds like? Fascism. Being white and Christian is the only way to be a patriotic American. I serve proudly in the United States Army 10th Mountain and I have my Combat Infantry badge, can you say the same? Oh, and by the by, I was born in Israel

I agree with Moran. He statement was very accurate and not antisemitic. The truth cuts like a knife!!!The cry babies cry anti semitic. Typical of the religious fanatics who back tyranny and totalitarism. Keep up the good work Moran.

You wait like you did for Hilter and see what is coming. Ask yourself do you want to be an Islamic Country.

Yes then you will not have to fight, if no they are coming for you.

History repeats itself, but this time bigger.

well, we're not blaming the Jews. we are blaming a corrupt and easily paid off government of the United States of America. as was stated earlier, it does not matter if we have Dems or the GOP in office, it will still be business as usual and corporate greed buys them all and they do their bidding. they look out for the interests of the multi national corporations and not their constituents. this is all planned and carefully orchestrated and we see another attempt going on right now with Iran.

Jim Moran has always been an anti-Semite; this latest statements just adds to his records. This also show were the democrats are heading. There is an increase anti-Semitism from a hardcore block within the democratic party, Jim Moran today reflects that block. Its amazing how he tried to ally AIPAC with the Bush Administration in order to attract various of his colleague.

Wow. That is right. When all else fails, go to the historical scapegoats, the Jewish people. (Incidentally, why would of Israel "conspired" to push the US into invading Iraq???? Wouldn't you agree, that, Syria, or Iran pose a much greater risk to them, than Iraq did?!?!? Check your facts)

I encourage all to learn all you can about the history of Palestine, Zionism, the founding of Israel, the 1948-? wars, and the plight of the Palestinians.

The opinions of most Americans has been slanted by what they have been fed by the media and entertainment industry. Why…most Americans don't even know who I am.

The criticism I hear from the posters about Moran's comment is that it is anti-semetic, not that it is inaccurate. AIPAC does not represent the Jewish community in the United States, it is a lobby for Israel. If a lobby, any lobby, is going to take a position and advocate that position within the US government, it is fair game to point this out. The only critique you can reasonably make of those like Moran who point this out, is that their comments are not true. And if not true, then I think you can fairly make the anti-semetism connection.

Never truer words were spoken by Jim. The pit-bull attack dog that is the AIPAC will try to chew his leg off but truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow.

Anti-semitism is alive and well in this country, and is displayed vehemently in the comments of this thread. I have to agree with the other poster that whenever there is a government debacle, "Blame the Jews". As a Jewish Democrat in Moran's district, I had the opportunity to participate in a community event around Darfur at our local synagogue. Moran said all the right things and by all rights, seemed to convey the same passion we have for addressing the horror of Darfur.

But like I have personally experienced in my life with direct anti-semetic remarks, from both friends and foes, I am convinced the anti-semiticism is always there as an underlying sleeping dog.

In terms of Moran, the Jewish community is not seeking a puppet, nor do we expect to agree with him on all issues, but we do expect respect and no anti-semetic remarks.

If we as Americans can't figure out that the Bush Administration was hell bent on going to war in Iraq before 9/11, and it was because Bush #1 didn't take out Saddam, then we all have a big problem. Our administration is a laughing stock in the world, we've dug ourselves and huge hole, and we have a President who is a pawn……but by the tone of these responses, the common theme is as I said previoiusly, "Blame the Jews".

Ludicrous. Sad. Pathethic. Just shear ignorance. And as a Jew, very, very scary indeed.

I am Jewish. Every criticism of Israel or a pro-Israel lobby group does not amount to Anti-Semetism. Although there are those who hide their Anti-Semetism behind attacks on Israel. In this case Congressman Moran has spoken the truth and there is no Anti-Semetism. AIPAC does not speak for me or all American Jews. I am against the war and against the Bush administration.

This is a silly discussion! AIPAC is the most powerful lobby in the United States and is supported by wealthy and influential people who want to benefit Israel by influencing the policies of the United States.

Any other theories regarding the objectives of AIPAC are moot and only cloud the true nature of AIPAC and other lobbying groups in Washington.

The "SOLE PURPOSE" of AIPAC is to influence US policies abroad, just as the SOLE PURPOSE of ADL/SPLC is to influence Americans domestically.

For those of you who wish to decry reality go stick your head in the sand and keep your ears warm!

Btw, AIPAC/ADL/SPLC are not the only groups in the United States lobbying on behalf of a Religion, Civil Rights, or Foreign Affairs, so don't get your knickers in a bundle.

thank God that there are still few politicians who have enough courage to stand up and criticize AIPAC. And rightfully so. There have been many instances in the past ( Bush Sr., Carter… who have been sharply criticized for their comments on various Israeli tactics, and somehow AIPAC gets the upper hand on it. Wake up America and open your eyes!

Rep. Moran is absolutely correct in what he said. And the minute one speaks up and out about the truth of AIPAC you are ridiculed for being a "racist" "anti-Semitic" as a way to silence the person. This is communism.

Why don’t AIPAC and their ilk refute the claims with an honest debate instead of name calling? Because AIPAC and their supporters can't because it is the truth!

AIPAC is not loyal to America, her interests, the citizens interests and her sovereignty either. The only loyalty AIPAC and their ilk have is to Israeli which is NOT in America's best interest but rather treason against America.

WAKE UP AMERICA these people are traitors and this will be the death of America as we speak. America is on the verge of communism because of lobbying groups like this!

The post by John Thomas, Edina, MN: You are absolutely correct! I agree totally. Go RON PAUL! And the AIPAC and their ilk are in great fear of this man as they should be!

NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAELI

I agree with the Congressman. AIPAC is out of control–they are like a Super Power–people are terrified of AIPAC–
The give Jewsih people a bad name.
AIPAC- stop your bullying.

There are powerful people in all communities who tend to exert power and it just so happens that AIPAC uses it towards a nefarious end. There have always been people who stand up for "other" side going against their own country, race, religion because it's the right thing to do. We should be very careful in labeling people and to remember not to be too ideological in nature

THE BIT DOG ALLWAYS HOLLERS THE LOUDEST.

RE: Mark, Jessup, MD

And how do you determine that during the Clinton years the U.S. "We wasted millions watching Sadddam"

If you think that's a waste of money, consider this: we've spent 315 Billion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan (the vast majority in Iraq). Just to clarify that's $315,000,000,000.00. Now here's a little perspective on what that would look like…

Three-hundred-fifteen billion dollars …

Update : July 21, 2006

This is the amount of money the US has allocated for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to be spent by September 30, 2006, the end of the fiscal year. And the Senate is working on a spending bill that will add another $50 billion more in spending for 2007.

This pile is 125 feet wide, 200 feet deep, and 450 feet tall.

450 feet is the height of a 38-story building. It's the hieght of the Millenium Wheel in London. It is also the height of the Luxor Hotel in Las Vegas and the Louisiana State Capitol Building.

If you were to stack the money in a single stack, your stack would be 19,887 miles tall, enough to wrap the Moon at its equator almost 3 times.

http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion/

Thank you very much Rep. Moran. It is refreshing to hear at least one congressman speak the truth for a change when it comes to Israel. And judging by most of the comments here there is a lot of agreement. AIPAC and Christian extremists have walked hand in hand with each other for several years.

Why is it anti-semetic to question anything Israel does? This has nothing to do with the Jewish faith but everyting to do with the Israel the country. As ususal the media will try to paint it as being anti-semetic because the media loves sensation. And other congressman will use it to campaign on. I have a great deal of respect for the Jewish faith but I have a very low opinion of Isreal's policies and our country's blind support for Israel.

I think it is high-time for our politicians to step forward and point out the power AIPAC has as a lobby and our blind protection of Isreal may lead us into a war that can not be won.

If Israel is all ginned up for war with Iran let them go for it, I just do not see the need for us to get involved. If we ever go to war with Iran (which I hope we do not and would find hard to support) it should be with the larger support of all our allies and not just to protect Israel. After all, the Israelies chose to live in the middle of snakes nest of people who dislike them.

It is not anti-Semitic to be wary of AIPAC.
As others have said before, Wake Up, America. Read up.
Unglue from the sitcoms and reality shows to study the truth.

I believe this war was started by a Mr. George W. Bush. The whole disaster is the fault of Mr. George W. Bush. Laying blame on some lobbying group is insane. This is the President's debacle.

Does anyone think it is an "accident" that Israel is pushing for war with Gaza and Iran today?? Jewish, Christian, Muslim - we are all human beings - let's try to keep the world safe for ourselves and not be sounding the war drums on ANY plain! Rep. Moran may have opened up discussion points that citizens of the US need to have amongst themselves publicly - and quickly. Society and civilization are at stake here, folks!!!!!

Why can't anyone comment about anything Jewish without getting their wrist slapped. Moran never blamed the Jews so I am not sure who this is anti-semitic. He is only calling the AIPAC as a responsible party for pushing the Government to initiate this war. Please read carefully. He never said anything against the Jews or the Jewish religion or Israel. He even said that they do not represent the majority thinking of the Jewish population. He just said that AIPAC lobbied very well for this war.

Finally, someone in DC has the guts to speak the truth. I'd re-elect him in a second if I lived in VA.

Since there are too many of you anti-semitic bigots on here to address personally, I will just say this to all of you -

I am sick and tired of Jews being blamed for every bad thing that happens in the world. Hitler did the exact same thing in Germany and it worked. He blamed the Jews for the Versailles Treaty that ended WWI and imposed harsh peace terms on Germany. He set out to exterminate an entire race of people and, in some cities in Poland, he actually succeeded.

My father was part of the American soldiers that liberated the concentration camps of Bergen-Belsen and Dachau. He saw "the final solution" up close and personal. What he saw there has haunted him all his life. He has been fortunate to live a long life and is enjoying his retirement, but if he ever read the lies and filthy propaganda from some of you on here, he would be livid with rage.

How dare any of you say that it is the Jews who are behind this godawful war in Iraq? How dare you use us as scapegoats once more? It was this administration that orchestrated the lies and misinformation that justified our invasion of a sovereign nation that presented no national security threat to us. They are the ones who bear sole responsibility for this mess. Don't blame my people for something that has absolutely nothing to do with us.

Those of you here who are spouting hatred and venom for the Jewish people are not better than Hitler and the rest of his Nazi henchmen. You should all crawl back under the rock from which you came. I promised my father I would always remember what he told me about the concentration camps and fight prejudice against my people anywhere, anytime. That is why I speak out against those here who are once again trying to repeat history by spewing garbage. You are a disgrace to this country.

Anti-Semitism is no longer those who hate the Jews but rather those whom the Jews hate. Read some some Theodor Herzl, a Jew, and see how he used Anti-Semitism for the Zionist movement.

Every opinion poll taken before, and during the Iraq War the past four years has shown a higher proportion of Jewish Americans AGAINST the war than the general population. AIPAC is as strong a lobby as is the tobacco lobby, pharmacutical lobby, various energy lobbies, teachers, doctors, unions, lobbies etc. Lobbies are legal and their job is to do what is in the best interest of their members. To smear an entire people as being in control of America because a lobby voices an opinion that differs than yours is racist and anti-semitic. To take two former advisors to the President who happen to be Jewish and smear an entire people because you disagree with their views is also racist and anti-semitic.
The Democratic party has always received 80% of the Jewish vote, and last time I looked Democrats were and are opposed to the war in Iraq. The old hatreds that lie dormant come out in the open whenever someone sees "a Jew" as the blame for all the worlds ills.

I am afraid that some people are painting a broad brush about the whole Jewish community and that should be totally unacceptable. It's our duty to defend each other of all communities. We have Jewish folks like Keith Olberman to other high profile stars that criticize these lobbying groups and their influence. We HAVE TO REMEMBER that no particular country, race, religion is the problem, but a small part of each and every community that want to control the rest of us.

NavyBlue wrote: "Rep. Moran is absolutely correct in what he said. And the minute one speaks up and out about the truth of AIPAC you are ridiculed for being a "racist" "anti-Semitic" as a way to silence the person. This is communism. … The only loyalty AIPAC and their ilk have is to Israeli which is NOT in America's best interest but rather treason against America."

Navy, accusing people of being communists and being traitors is pretty strong language in political debate. This is especially true when it is obvious that you have no idea what Communism is. You certainly don't like being called anti-Semitic by people who have no idea what anti-Semitism is, do you?

Is there a powerful Jewish lobby in Washington, funded by wealthy Jews? I would be amazed if there wasn't. There are powerful lobbies in Washington protecting and promoting every noble and as well as crooked proposal. Does that mean that supporting Israel is communism and treason? Of course not.

On the other hand, are immigrants, Jews, Hispanics, Blacks, Asians, and others quick to spot racism where there is none? Yes they are. Are they also quick to spot racism where racism is really there? Yes they are.

Is a dialog that consists of name calling and false accusations of the suppression of information the kind of dialog in which patriots engage? Especially at the beginning of this grim and unpromising new century? It is not.

Congressman Moran should not face any heat in regard to his comments. The American people have a right to know the TRUTH!!!!!
Read and understand the facts…24 Billion Dollars being sent to Israel daily!!!! While Americans can't even get proper wages, Healthcare and a sufficient working infrastructure for the 21st Century!!!!!
Shameful to political correctness

FINALLY, someone has the courage to tell the truth!!! Unfortunately, the good congressman will now be vigorously attacked by the AIPAC jackals. AIPAC is destroying America.

Why doesn't Israel just mind their own business for once?! Why the heck do we have to give them billions of dollars?! And for what..to kill Palestinians, take their land, so people in the Mideast could hate us for it?? Just STOP giving them so much money, so people over there won't hate us. If anything, they have the RIGHT to hate us…look at all the horrible things we do to them!

northern va is NOT anti jew..i've lived here my entire life. This is not some hillbilly town. It has so much diversity…one of the most thriving places in america.

Wake up people the Jewish Mafia is calling some of the shots on K Street and Wall Street shaping our public, foreign, and economic policies. The Jewish community is highly organized and very influential on a global scale.They are integral with American politics. Firmly instep with the far right neoconservative movement. Isarael doesn't have a seperation of church and state, and neither do we. It doesn't take a Washington insider to tell you that fact. Sincereley, Not an anti-semitist

Nothing like blatant bigotry from the hypocrisy laden party of tolerance to keep things in the right political perspective.

I believe Rep. Moran is speaking the truth. We need to fact the fact that our unconditional support of Israel comes at a cost to many in the Middle East. Palestinians are suffering for what? Why are lawmakers scary of the Isreali? I do not want my taxed dollars to support the Israeli effort in stealing land from the Palestinians and inciting wars in the region. The world need to be united in its effort to bring peace to Palestine!

Wow! It is quite humorous that so many of you concede such power to a group that represents 3% of the population. Do you think that the Christian Right does not influence power in America? What about the AARP? AIPAC may influence the govt., but so does the Insurance Lobby, Pharmaceutical Lobby etc. influence policy too. So many of you believe in conspiracy theories too. Jews do this and jews do that. It is funny. Do you think jews go to meetings on Fridays and talk about which person from Dallas needs to make the World Bank do this or another person from St. Louis make the the American Govt. do that? Oh, I need to go. I need to let my jewish neighbor know to call the Prime Minister of France. I want to get my wine cheaper.

Isn't everyone missing the real point here. It is about the powerful lobbying groups who dictate our policies. Whether it is the Religious Right or the AIPAC, as a nation we should not sit by and let the few rule the majority. It is about time more people were not so "politically correct" and think more about the greater good for ALL people.

So, a Democratic congressman joins those spreading the old "blame the Jews" lie (he actually was at it since 2003)! In the context of the war in Irak, this libel is most notoriously being pushed by Profs. Walt & Mearsheimer. It's sad to see that many people are ready to accept this anti-semitic canard, while ignoring the facts: Bush and Cheney were hell-bent in their determination to have this war and get rid of Saddam, regardless of the lack of any evidence of WMD in Irak. They are the decision makers. They made their minds up based on their
wishes to gain control over that oil rich and strategically important country (quite unrealistic wishful thinking, as it turned out). This is where you find the reasons and responsibility for the invasion of Irak - in Bush's and Cheney's grand goals and decisions to pursue them, not in views expressed by some Jewish neo-cons, or in the actually inexistent support of AIPAC.
Quite regardless of these facts, it seems that this anti-semitic libel is gaining momentum; this is why it's important for the Democratic party to stand firmly against it.

I do not understand why there is this myth that Israel needs the United States to fight its wars- other than to be a mask for anti-Jewish sentiment.

If anything, the United States keeps Israel from responding with overwhelming military force. Think of the overwhelming military victories that Israel has had since 1948- the United States cannot say the same.

Israel can take care of itself, they learned the important lesson that nobody cares about the Jews.

What this congressman said is anti-Semitic and it reveals the dark currents underneath the Democratic party.

In order to clear up Mr. Sterling's accusation of anti-semitism, anti-Israel and anti-Semitism are comparing apples and oranges. A vast number of the Israeli population are of European descent, not of Semitic ancestry. This is a state issue not an ethnic or religious policy that Mr. Moran is exposing.

this is what always happens when someone says something that could be interpreted as biased…. rather than assess the comment and use it as a springboard for discussion, the author is immediately discredited and dismissed, even if there is some validity to the point. various lobbies exert great power on the decision making process, and many of those lobbies have influenced domestic and foreign policy. the representative just stated the obvious; now he has to face the consequences for a simple observation
about power, not about a people.

I agree with Representative Moran and it irrates me greatly that when you say something like this you are automatically painted as an anti-semetic. Maybe 60 Minutes should do a piece on AIPAC and let us all know more about the organization and then we can all draw our own conclusions about whether or not Representative Moran is right or wrong.

Needless to say this Congressman has stepped over the line and should apologize not only to the Jewish Community but to all his fellow Congressmen and women as well as the people he represents.

It also sounds like the old south bigotry coming out.

I think He's has the Right to voice his thoughts and opinions with responsibilty. This is The United States of America or is it The United States of Isreal in America?

Can we please not call it "Jewish lobby?"

AIPAC stands for America-ISRAEL Public Affairs Committee.

As an American Jew, AIPAC doesn't speak for me.
And all polling suggests they don't speak for most American Jews.
http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=26677

(For that matter, I'm not certain they speak for most Israelis…

I agree with Mr. Moran 100%. This war was pushed by AIPAC and other prominent Jewish pundits (Kristol). Its about time the truth was spoken, I admire his hutzpah! I am not anti Israel, it just happens to be the truth!!!

Sadly, we are witnessing what happens when cousins marry.

"Read and understand the facts…24 Billion Dollars being sent to Israel daily!!!!" Posted By B, NY, NY : September 19, 2007 11:58 am

That would be $8 trillion a year, 3 times the total US federal budget. Perhaps you should read and understand the facts (some arithmitic may help too).

Finally someone has the balls to speak the truth.

Folks this is not about anti-semitism or Racism. Any time Israel's name is brought up in a negative light, all of a sudden it is equated to Anti-semitism.

The comments were about the Israeli Lobby, and their influence on getting us into Iraq. They are pushing for us to act on Iran as well. The day this country begins to realize that AIPAC and Israel's interts are NOT; ABSOLUTELY NOT; equivalent to America's interests will be a great day in the history of this country.

Get your heads out of the sand peolpe. We are and have been fighting Israel's wars in the MidEast too long. Anti-Israeli is not equivalent to anti-semite. There are many Jew who are not Zionist, and actually oppose the state of Israel.

I find Mr. Moran's comments to be both accurate and ignorant at the same time. Obviously, public speaking and the thought that goes into it, is not his strong suit. But even more disturbing is the reading of the comments posted here. Anti-Semitism is, sadly, alive and well in the U.S. Not from the Congressman, but from the readers of your web stories.

If I criticize Jerry Falwell or Jim Bakker or PTL, does that automatically make me anti-christian?

AIPAC is a POLITICAL organization, not a religious organization.

What is wrong with you people who automatically label ANY criticism of AIPAC as "anti-semetic"? This is ridiculous!

I agree with Congressman Moran. It's Likud and Neocon policy which PUSHED us into war by wispering lies into the ear of Bush II. It is the paranoid Israeli Right (not all Israeli's) which bears large responsiblitly for the Quagmire we are now enmeshed in. The other two big players were "the Grand Game/White man's burden crowd" and "Big OIL/Business". Time to leave Iraq to the Iraqi people. Time for foreign occupiers to leave.

If you think his comments are anti-semetic you much be jewish or republican.