September 20, 2007
Posted: September 20th, 2007 01:00 PM ET

Watch Vilsack's comments on NY1 Wednesday night.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - It's beginning to get ugly between the two New Yorkers running for president.

A top surrogate to Sen. Hillary Clinton's, D-New York, White House bid, slammed former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani in a television interview Wednesday night, saying "there's a lot that the rest of the country is going to get to know" about the Republican presidential frontrunner.

"I can't even get into the number of marriages and the fact that his children - the relationship he has with his children - and what kind of circumstances New York was in before Sept. 11," former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, who briefly mounted a presidential bid himself earlier in the year before backing Clinton, told New York 1.

"There are lot of issues involving Mayor Giuliani . . . He's got a very interesting past," Vilsack added.

Meanwhile, Giuliani has been sharply critical of Clinton in recent days after she told the top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing that his assessment required "a willing suspension of disbelief," and for her refusal to formally condemn MoveOn.org after it published an ad in the New York Times attacking Petraeus' credibility.

Responding to Vilsack's comments, Giuliani's campaign said, "Gov. Vilsack is right. The rest of the country is going to get to know what New Yorkers already do - Rudy Giuliani tackled the impossible and turned around the City – cutting taxes, reducing crime and moving people off welfare and into work."

UPDATE: Asked by CNN's Jessica Yellin Thursday if Vilsack's comments were appropriate, Clinton said, "I'm not engaging in any of that. I'm focused on my campaign"

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • New Hampshire • Rudy Giuliani


Steve, Forest Hills, NY   September 21st, 2007 2:47 pm ET

I have to ask…is there a book of excuses they hand out for the facts surrounding George Bush?? George Bush's claim to fame was that he was a neocon given free reign to start a war, push through billions in pork and destroy our reputation around the world with the acquiescence of a corrupt majority Republican Congress and Senate. (do they have an excuse in your book to spin that into something good Chris?)

Tom Dedham, Mass   September 21st, 2007 2:20 pm ET

Dawn, take a long, long, sip of that Kool-aid, it's good isn't it?

So while Billyboy was off saving the world, he had someone cut a check for almost a million dollars just so he could get down to the business at hand?

I don't really know how to respond to that logic, it is beyond reason.

So the next time I post at how much I admire the Obamas, Liz Edwards, Joe Biden or Richardson I will apologize for being a right-winger.

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 21st, 2007 1:44 pm ET

I have to ask...is there a book of excuses they hand out for the facts surrounding the Clintons?? Bill Clintons claim to fame was that he was a left winger forced to compromise with a Republican Congress and Senate. (do they have an excuse in your book to spin that into something good Dawn?)

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 21st, 2007 1:40 pm ET

Funny....he doesn't put his name or state...yes...you are a coward...

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   September 21st, 2007 1:31 pm ET

Tom:

The suit was dismissed by the trial judge on President Clinton's summary judgment motion. To review, in a summary judgment motion, the judge takes into account only undisputed facts, makes every inference in the non-movant's favor, and then decides the case as a matter of law. Under these FAVORABLE circumstances, Ms. Jones LOST. President Clinton settled with her AFTER THIS because, what with destroying some of Saddham Hussein's WMD, going after Bin Ladin, not to mention defending against impeachment, he had enough to do. Although Ms. Jones had no evidence and no case, she had the attention of the right-wing media, and those, like you, who buy whatever they're selling. And given the unjustifiable damage she'd already caused, $850,000 was a small price to pay.
An aside: in your mind, what could the coincidence between the sums paid by President Clinton's insurance company to Ms. Jones and Mr. Hsu to Sen. Clinton's campaigns over the years possibly mean?

BCNU purple state, usa   September 21st, 2007 12:24 pm ET

Steve from Manhattan...

I think you're right, the real reason terrorists haven't attacked again is because of tough guys like you in New York. They know the rest of us cowards wouldn't be a challenge and just want take on you Big-Dawgs. You seem to have enough courage and backbone to go around, so please, can you Fed-Ex some to the rest of us out here in Podunk?

I guess the only opinions that matter are those of New Yorkers? According to the Book of Steve, Chapter 8 verse 49 that's the gospel.

No doubt, you 'da man!

Gilberto Hernandez San Antonio, Texas   September 21st, 2007 7:16 am ET

Let's see. Both are pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-gun control, anti-tax cut pledge, and pro-civil union of gays.

The only important differences are the Iraqi war, she against, he for, and the value of marriage-she, although no angel, fought to preserve hers–he left his wife for a younger mistress.

Gilberto Hernandez San Antonio, Texas   September 21st, 2007 7:04 am ET

To a previous comment:

No, actually, "a willing suspension of disbelief" is correct. One suspends one's refusal to believe in order to in fact believe that which is incredible.

Gilberto Hernandez
San Antonio

Steve   September 20th, 2007 8:56 pm ET

James is so right….I watch the Dems here defend Billary all the time – there seems to be nothing they can do wrong….they are like Stepford voters.

Please. You morons defend that idiot on office as if he's a great wise man. And, for the most part, you're unlikely to find 10 democrats who don't have at least one negative thing to say about Hillary and the others. You know why? It's called freedom of speech and participation in the democratic process. You see, we look at our commander and chief as OUR EMPLOYEE. You people look at him as YOUR FATHER. And as they say, father can do no wrong in the eyes of his kids.

Stop being a little baby and act like a real American for once. Doesn't matter whether you want her in office, someone else or whoever. Just stop whimpering and hiding behind these people like cowards.

Steve   September 20th, 2007 8:49 pm ET

Funny how most of the Giuliani and Bush defenders here are from places where no terrorist would even want to visit if they gave them money.

Here's a prospect if you want your cowardly opinions to mean something: Move to New York. Work in Manhattan. Spend a month or two getting to know the feeling that anything can happen anytime in the city - in the subway, on the 20th story of a building, at Madison Square Garden - then, and only then, will you have an opinion that is valid. Unlike you, most New Yorkers support anyone BUT Giuliani and Bush. There's a reason for that. When you've got nothing to fear anymore, when you've seen the worst happen right in front of your eyes, you get a little tough -and a little wiser. You don't let politicians appeal to your fears like these two morons have - and when they do, you despise them, as you should. They're manipulating you in the lowest possible way.

Otherwise, the opinions of you chickenhawks are hollow and pathetic – and those who support this pathetic sham of a President deserve the shunning you'll get years from now when your opinions not only won't matter, but will be followed by alot of head-shaking.

John, Little Rock AR   September 20th, 2007 4:51 pm ET

The only reason she stayed married was for her political future. You really think they have a marriage, they don't even live in the same state.

Trevor, Omaha NE   September 20th, 2007 4:47 pm ET

Yeah because the Clinton family has a clean past in the family values category! Vilsack must not think it's wrong to have an intern uner the oval office desk.

Maurice, Washington, DC   September 20th, 2007 4:01 pm ET

Hillary might not have the perfect marriage but she's stayed married. There has never been any talks of Hillary not honoring her marriage vows by stepping out. Granted her husband stepped out a few times, that's not a fault of Hillary. You can't blame Bill's misjudgement on Hillary. Hillary is the candidate this time and not Bill. Judge Hillary on her own merits and judge Guiliani on his own merits which unfortunately talks of his marriages, his marriage to his cousin, his relationship to his children,etc.

If Hillary had left Bill, you all will be saying she didn't value family and had no morals. She sought help and prayed for strength to make her marriage work and it did. Her vows were for better or for worse and not just for better or for better.

Kent, Union, NJ   September 20th, 2007 3:53 pm ET

it is darn near foolish to say 'well Hillary didn't leave Bill" like that's a great excuse. please. we all know it is a marriage of convenience and power and both have had their flings. Hillary was more hurt that this one was so public. and more than anything, she gets off on the power that this marriage brings her. neo-con Illuminati globalist.

Jess, Savannah GA   September 20th, 2007 3:42 pm ET

I am a soldier in the U.S. Army and from where I sit, neither of these two candidates possess the honor, integrity and strength of character that I hope to see in my Commander in Chief. I have proudly served two tours in Iraq and would go back in a heartbeat if the Army said it was my turn again. Why? Because I love my country, I love my family, and I trust my President. I'll still serve, but that last one will be much harder if either of these two are elected.

Rob New York City   September 20th, 2007 2:58 pm ET

GET A GRIP ALREADY.

IF YOU THINK BUSH IS BAD, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET. GUILIANI IS DISGUSTING.

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 20th, 2007 2:39 pm ET

James is so right....I watch the Dems here defend Billary all the time – there seems to be nothing they can do wrong....they are like Stepford voters.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   September 20th, 2007 2:32 pm ET

I don't know if I would call remaining in a sham of a marriage for the sole reason of running for President one day standing by your man.

As a proud Arkansan, I understand full and well that her marriage has been over for all practical purposes since his days of having the state police line up honies for Slick whilst he was governor.

There is no question that this woman is a conniving politician who has had her eyes on the prize for a very very long time.

I just hope it is not the American people who have to suffer for it!

John NC   September 20th, 2007 2:24 pm ET

How could Hillary possibly be President and Keep her eye on Bill and the interns? When the cat is away the mice will play

James, Phoenix AZ   September 20th, 2007 2:17 pm ET

Dawn – MD

You wrote, "Bill and Hillary Clinton may not have a perfect marriage, but they're still married. TO EACH OTHER."

I am constantly amazed at depth of denial female democrats must go to support Hillary and Bill. HONESTLY, how many self-respecting women in this country today would stick with a husband that had countless affairs, was accused of sexually harassing women (Paula and Kathleen) and accused of raping another (Juanita).

The TRUTH is (obviously) Hillary trades being Bill's "enabler" for the political opportunity Bill's name gives her.

This is akin to Michael Vick running a dog shelter – and a dog fighting ring – and you'll call him a great humanitarian.

Joe, Midlothian, VA   September 20th, 2007 2:01 pm ET

Please Lord, don't let me have to choose between these two bozos.

Steve   September 20th, 2007 1:51 pm ET

Hmm. More republican cowards trying to win an argument they just plain can't.

Giuliani left his wife. Hillary didn't leave her husband, much as you hate her.

Giuliani verbally spat on his ex-wife in public. The Clinton's worked out their differences.

Giuliani is campaigning under the banner of the "moral" party – helluva hypocrite.

Clinton's never claimed to be moral superiors – only human.

Go back under your rock, cowards. Go vote for daddy and give up all your civil rights and freedoms because you're so pathetically scared of everything.

I was in Manhattan when the planes hit – had to find my way out of the city by running across the Brooklyn bridge – and I'm not so fearful that I would buy into the tripe that's been spewed by this administration and party for the last 6 years. I'd rather have my Constitution in tact. You people, who probably never got more than a few thousand miles from ground zero, act as if terrorists are bombing your backyard. Get some courage and a backbone.

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   September 20th, 2007 1:51 pm ET

Can you say "chutzpah"? The woman who was secretly plotting her health care hobby while Bubba was playing with pizza and cigars in the Oval Office is lecturing Rudy on fidelity?! Take this woman away ... please!

Dorian, Buffalo NY   September 20th, 2007 1:19 pm ET

I'm confused – if Hillary had left Bill over his unfaithfulness, people would be up in arms that she walked out on her marriage. Rudy has had 3 wives and his current wife has had 3 husbands – this doesn't bode well for handling and overcoming difficulties.

Martin, NYC, NY   September 20th, 2007 1:15 pm ET

wow, Clinton can attack someone's personal life? talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Robert, Cleveland, OH   September 20th, 2007 1:10 pm ET

I didn't get why anybody responding to accutions in Guliani's personal life by blasting family life of Hilary. After all, that was her husband who was involved in infedility, not her, or am I missing something? She actually demonstrated a lot of strengh and support, at least publicly to her husband.

Besides, if success of presidency depends on it we should bring 5 nice looking interns to GWB (unfortunately, that won't help)

Tom, AlBUQUERQUE, N   September 20th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

It is my hope that the Democrats,Hillary Clinton, be proactive and pre-emptive in their assault on the Republicans. They need to be relentless with no regrets. Give them hell Hillary and fellow Democrats.

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   September 20th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Bill and Hillary Clinton may not have a perfect marriage, but they're still married. TO EACH OTHER. And to those of you who think that two people can stay married for convenience or ambition or any such ridiculous reason, you read too many cheap novels. Marriage (even a really good one) is WAY too hard for that.

B McM, Mesa Az   September 20th, 2007 12:59 pm ET

Guiliani is just a continuation of the same horrible abuse of power that presently darkens the world.

Danny G. Boca Raton, FL   September 20th, 2007 12:55 pm ET

hmmm... let me see in one hand, one candidate that is running on her experience, her intellect and the issues she believes are best for the country, she accepts and indicates that our society is not perfect, but we must come together and find common ground, the other expresses he is for "family values" he is for more security and keeping the terrorist "on the run", he endorses the kinds of actions that led to the invasion of Iraq and if Iran winks the wrong way we will end up there too... he does not advocate unity and consensus because he beleives Democrats are weak and passive and should not be in office, so division is best for him because he believes HE knows what is best for the country... but he should not be attacked on his character any more that his opposition would. The Sen. from New York survived the fiasco of a troubled marriage in which she is the one that was lied to and she had the courage and strenght to not only forgive, but to move forward, but our society should penalize her for it none the less... who cares about Rudy's past marriages? as far as I'm concern not me, but don't attempt to lecture me on the fact that if I am a Democrat (which I am) I do not have the same "family values" the republicans all share and expect not to be questioned about the fiasco your personal life is...
think about it!

Ed,Ellenville,New York   September 20th, 2007 12:50 pm ET

pl at the UN,please don't encourage either political party to be endorsed by a foreign government.Instead,stake out a political stance and let the party that suits it come to you.Any endorsement on any other basis would be viewed as suspect.

Bill, Streamwood, IL   September 20th, 2007 12:48 pm ET

There was a time when conservatives denied Nelson Rockefeller the GOP presidential nomination because he was (gasp!)divorced.

Now, in their lust for power, their moral standards have sunk so low that they embrace the likes of Rudy (how many wives so far?) Giuliani and some of his dysfunctional family!

And then they criticize Senator Clinton with sticking with her wayward husband.

This, if nothing else, is chutzpah.

Jessica, Saugus MA   September 20th, 2007 12:40 pm ET

Hillary is Speaking about MORALITY?

Remember ZipperGate? What about those you threatened and paid off to protect your husband? What about Mr. Bill being impeached and disgraced on a national level? Furthermore, you stated publicly that YOU would appoint HIM as an ambassador??? So, what is your center of morality Hillary – you? Oh I forgot, you are “Progressive” or should I say “Oppressive” to anyone that disagrees with your socialist style of leadership.

It is time for a real change!

Grasso For President – http://www.GrassoForPresident.com
Restoring FAITH in America

Aaron Kinney, Sherman Oaks, CA   September 20th, 2007 12:38 pm ET

NYFD and NYPD hate, hate, hate Rudy Giuliani. Gee, I wonder why that is?

The US military servicemembers have privately and independently donated way more money to Ron Paul's campaign than they have to any other candidate.

Ron Paul has had one wife his whole life. No divorces, affairs, or any other shenanigans.

Vote for Ron Paul in the Republican primaries, and then vote for him again in the general election.

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   September 20th, 2007 12:37 pm ET

Rudy fired the first salvo against Hillary, so now let him get a taste of his own medicine.

I find it highly amusing that the so called "conservatives" would vote for a man who makes Bill Clinton look like a choir boy by comparison.

How about a mayor who for months parades his lover in public as if SHE was the city's first lady (the offcial excuse was that Judith was one of his female staffer's good friend). I remember Judith at a Columbus Day parade walking right behind Rudy as she's waving to the crowd. Donna (his then wife) was nowhere in sight.

How about the mayor calling a press conference to announce his intention to divorce his wife BEFORE telling her and the children?

How about allowing his lover to stay overnight at Gracie Mansion while his wife and children still lived there. It took a court order to force Rudy to forbid him from bringing his paramour to the mansion.

Oh yeah Rudy, you're the family values candidate!!!

Common Sense   September 20th, 2007 12:34 pm ET

This is also known as the "pot calling the kettle black"

Thank you. That is all.

Common Sense   September 20th, 2007 12:33 pm ET

Hilary is only with Bill to further her political career after he publically humiliated her, that's all there is to it.

TAUREAN, CHICAGO.IL   September 20th, 2007 12:24 pm ET

RUDY REMINDS ME OF THAT EPISODE ON FAMILY GUY, VOTE FOR ME BECAUSE OF 9/11. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT HEALTHCARE 9/11, ABOUT JOBS 9/11, ABOUT ENERGY 9/11 ABOUT WASHINGTON 9/11, TELL RUDY THIS COUNTRY NEEDS IDEAS AND EVERY ANSWER CAN'T BE 9/11

Ron, TX   September 20th, 2007 12:23 pm ET

Hi pot! Meet Kettle. Kettle, meet pot. Your made outta the same metal. Continue on.

Steve   September 20th, 2007 12:16 pm ET

Becky from Dallas,

Do you live with them? Do you know what their relationship is like today? No, you don't. But I'll tell you one thing - Bill Clinton never held a news conference to claim he was getting divorced from his wife BEFORE HIS WIFE EVEN KNEW! How about flaunting his new girlfriend in front of her, treating his pre-teen children with complete disregard at the time and speaking poorly about her, his ex-wife, in the press. Giuliani did that. But mindless drones like you will vote for him anyway, despite your complete hypocracy on the family values issue. Why? Because, when it all comes down to it, republicans need a father figure. They're scared and they need to feel safe – and their fear clouds their judgement.

Want to be a coward? Vote republican.

Mike Dover, Delaware   September 20th, 2007 12:13 pm ET

I love Hillary, and will support her for President. But I've been chuckling for a couple days now, wondering why some right-wing political pundit hasn't picked up on Hillary's double-negative "Bush-ism"? And I quote, "...a willing suspension of disbelief." Didn't she mean "a willing suspension of belief"? To suspend disbelief means to belive what the General was saying was true. God Bless you, Hillary!

Tom - Dedham, Mass   September 20th, 2007 12:07 pm ET

I can't stand Ghoulini, but for anyone associated with her to discuss anyones "family" is comical at best.

Great marriage this "pant suit only wearing, short haircut and never kisses my husband" loser has.

Tap, tap, tap Hillary.

Marriage for political expedience only.

Greg, Phoenix, AZ   September 20th, 2007 12:02 pm ET

Well if this doesn't just beat all.

Going on and on about what they know about Rudy (been married more than once, strained relations with some children) and how they are going to USE it against him.

This is actually kind of ironic, because the Clinton team (she being part of the sham marriage that has led to countless public embarrassments dating back to the time he was governor of Arkansas) is trying to use elements of Rudy's family life to hurt him rather than attacking any of his ideas of policies. Can you believe that?

This is a very slippery slope Hill and team are embarking on and one that will no doubt cause a very big backlash against her campaign if they continue to pursue it. If she is smart she will try to say and do as little as possible, because right now, she has a bit of advantage due to the fact that many Americans are blindly supporting the Democrats due to the war in Iraq. If she keeps this up, she might remind those people why they get such a terrible pain in their stomachs when they think about her as President.

Bodie, Oakland CA   September 20th, 2007 11:56 am ET

Senator Clinton shouldn't have insulted the Darth Vader like that – he isn't as evil as Cheney is. It's unfair....

Dan (Columbia, MD)   September 20th, 2007 11:56 am ET

The plank in Hillary's eye is pretty big. Maybe she should pull it out first.

pl. at the UN for a while.   September 20th, 2007 11:46 am ET

I am not American. Who, and at what point, should my govt openly support either party? That is my job to decide.

In 2 past postings I alluded to what is now surfacing re Mr Giuliani's past. He will not survive the political exposees by the Dems.

Becky Britton, Dallas, Texas   September 20th, 2007 11:46 am ET

Maybe Mrs. Clinton should mind her own business when it comes to Mr. Giuliani's relationship/marital troubles. She and the former President don't exactly have an ideal relationship or a faithful one.

Pat, Huntington, NY   September 20th, 2007 11:29 am ET

Finally! The rethuglicans are going to know what it's like to be swift-boated, except with Rudy, it's all true – he's nothing more than a former mayor exploiting a national tragedy for political gain.

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