September 21st, 2007
01:16 PM ET
12 years ago

MoveOn.org says criticism brings out military supporters

Watch President Bush condemn the MoveOn.org ad Thursday.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - One day after the U.S. Senate unanimously approved a resolution condemning MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” ad and President Bush offered his own harsh condemnation of the group, the liberal advocacy organization said it is being flooded with messages of support from members of the U.S. military and their families.

And as of midnight on Thursday, MoveOn also said it had raised $500,000 from 12,000 individuals to support a new ad its running criticizing Republicans who blocked an effort to give U.S. troops more time between deployments to the Middle East.

“These folks have made sacrifices many of can’t imagine,” the organization stated in a news release. “Their charge to us was clear: keep speaking the truth about how President Bush and the Republicans have betrayed our trust.”

MoveOn has been a hot topic of conversation ever since it published an ad in The New York Times questioning the credibility of Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

- CNN Associate Producer Martina Stewart


Filed under: moveon.org • President Bush
soundoff (70 Responses)
  1. Will, NYC

    12,000 emails from soldiers? This begs the question: 'Why do America's troops hate our troops?'

    September 21, 2007 02:45 pm at 2:45 pm |
  2. Bob, San Francisco, CA

    The conservatives have really been jumping on this ad to distract the sheep from the real issues. So now we're attacking free speech, eh? The Bush administration has lost all credibility with the US and the world, and we're all of a sudden supposed to believe things are peachy in Iraq? The message of the ad regarding cherry-picked evidence to paint a positive image of the war is true. We have seen progress in a Sunni-dominated area where we are arming people who've likely killed American soldiers in the past. And they will likely turn against the Americans again in the future.
    And this is progress?
    And this is the freedom that we're "fighting for"?

    People don't hate Bush for no reason. We hate the administration for the harm that it's done to our country. I wish the supporters out there would wake up. It's not a Democrat/Republican thing, but an issue of our future.

    September 21, 2007 02:58 pm at 2:58 pm |
  3. Chet Morrison, Lansing MI

    I am an ex-military man. I do not support the sentiments voiced by the moveon.org ad. However, the following needs be said:

    1) General Petraeus is a big boy; they certainly don't give four stars and a bronze star with a 'v' for shrinking violets. As any flag officer knows, life is very political at that level and sometimes people just aren't nice. They should be ignored.

    2) We have something in this country – something I was proud to contribute to – called freedom of speech. I may not like what a lot of people say (I try not to think of a lot of people out there spewing their bilge, on the right just as much as the left) – but I do feel strongly about the right to say it. if you don't like it, say something back, or better still, just ignore it.

    3) Hasn't the senate got anything better to do with their time? Granted, they are often inept and hopelessly divided, but I can't help thinking that ignoring this ad would have been a better use of their limited brainpower and infinite ability to keep talking.

    With all this, I believe it is obvious what the proper response to the ad SHOULD have been.

    Hoo-ah

    Chet Morrison

    September 21, 2007 03:00 pm at 3:00 pm |
  4. MG - San Francisco

    I'm not advocating the appropriateness or inappropriateness of Moveon.org's ad, however, I am deeply saddened by the politician's spending time to pass yet another worthless resolution to condemn a PAID advertisement/editorial or however you want to put it. It was an opinion. If you don't agree, then you don't agree. If you have an opinion about it, then great. But congress spending time on this borders on censorship. I am a republican, but, to be FAIR, I didn't see this same type of outrage with the Swiftboat ads attacking John Kerry (and I'm no fan of his). Here is a double standard...... and our so-called leadership who is doing NOTHING but helping to keep this nation forever polarized should be ashamed of their conduct in this issue than a small group of people exercising their constitutional right to their opinion.

    September 21, 2007 03:01 pm at 3:01 pm |
  5. Mike Romeling Albany, NY

    Perhaps the add was not in great taste or the "pun" very clever. But it's disheartening that so many Democrats (along with much of the press) fell into lock-step over this issue with the Republicans and their make believe "outrage" over a simple advertisement that may have been pretty close to the mark. This is the type of thing that gets people wondering if the Democrats know what the heck they stand for or where their canoles are located.

    September 21, 2007 03:03 pm at 3:03 pm |
  6. TheRestofUs.org,

    We totally agree MoveOn. is bringing more amd more Military supporters to the table. I hope they continue with their socialist diatribe, it is really helping the American people see them for who they are.

    September 21, 2007 03:15 pm at 3:15 pm |
  7. abe, washington d.c.

    No one is attacking free-speech, Bob, just pointing out tasteless speech that gets this country NOWHERE in the end. Yeah, maybe attacking one of our American military leaders will end Islamic fundamentalism or sectarian violence, probably only from MoveOns obscured point of view.

    September 21, 2007 03:23 pm at 3:23 pm |
  8. M. Stewart, Washington

    Hey Will from NYC, don't be stupid. The article says 12000 individuals not soldiers. You should learn to read before you make any more stupid comments. Stop your Bush bashing and learn some respect

    September 21, 2007 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  9. Don, U.S.

    It was really funny listening to Laura Ingrahm run down the little geek MoveOn chose to represent them this morning on the 'Todays' show. This punk was barely out of diapers and looked like he was at the edge of a panic attack, when Matt gave Laura the last word.

    September 21, 2007 03:28 pm at 3:28 pm |
  10. Christian, Tampa FL

    Washington has really gone down the drain.

    September 21, 2007 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  11. Neill C., Montgomery, Al

    It's interesting that liberals screamed, whined, and pouted when Senatory Kerry was attacked, but now it is OK when Petraeus is attacked before he could even say one word. At least there was evidence to support some of the claims against Kerry. Even Charlie Gibson basically called him a liar on GMA when he tried to falsify his version of the medal throwing incident.

    September 21, 2007 03:30 pm at 3:30 pm |
  12. TheRestofUs.org,

    Maybe you would like to share your source and the nature of those e-mails, as I understand it, 90% of those were against MoveOn.org. I doubt CNN will post this at the head of the comments even though yours wasnt first either, Will, NYC.

    September 21, 2007 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  13. therealist

    "MoveOn also said it had raised $500,000"

    And we're sure that the corrupt media( New York Times and CNN) will give you more illegal bonus deals for that $500,000. After all, your all pushing the same liberal agenda..

    September 21, 2007 03:35 pm at 3:35 pm |
  14. Who Cares

    let's keep arguing about an advertisement and ignore the big, pink elephant in the middle of the room.

    September 21, 2007 03:49 pm at 3:49 pm |
  15. r sisk, nevada

    Hey M.Stewart from Washington.

    Respect is earned. So far we have nothing to work on here from this loser President. If you could name one good thing this Dork has done for our nation or the world, I may listen. Until then, myself and approx. 70% of the population will bash away!!!!!

    September 21, 2007 03:52 pm at 3:52 pm |
  16. Wenton Chan, SF, CA

    What a pack of lies. The military has no authority over dependents, but I sincerely doubt any military member with half his/her mind would willingly cross lines of insubordination. I would very much like to see these names, you know, to make sure there not 12,000 Jesse MacBeths.

    September 21, 2007 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  17. Larry O'donell, Amarillo, TX

    Hey, Neil, you are dead wrong in your argument. When Kerry (Vietnam vet vs draft dodger Bush) was attacked by Swift Boaters, republicans never showed any outrage and there was no vote in the senate condemning it. Here, ar least 22 democrats joined with republicans to show their disapproval. That is the difference of mentalities between dems and republicans. Why didn't these republicans who voted to condemn the ad, voted for Webb amendment to show their support to the troops? That clearly shows that these chickenhawks are trying to protect Bush than their support to the troops. And, it was quite evident that Gen Petraeus was delivering Bush's message in a twisted way as if he was doing a favor to bring 30,000 troops home which didn't mean anything.

    September 21, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  18. Bill, Lancaster, PA

    In regards to Bob from San Fransisco: Your remarks are absolutely ludicrous. What you are doing is an attack on an attack of free speech. If you were such an advocate of free speech, you would be tolerant of Moveon.org's right to speak freely as well as the President's right to critcize Moveon.org.
    No one is claiming Iraq to be "peachy". However, there is great potential in Iraq, which the liberal outlets (PACs, special interests, media, etc.) are choosing to ignore or downplay. You are absolutely right, however that it's not a Democrat/Republican thing. Our future depends on what happens in Iraq. It won't matter if we're the most powerful military force in the world if we are not strong enough to exercise it. People don't hate Bush for no reason, but the reasons given are lame, just like our credibility in the world if we fail to finish the job in Iraq.

    September 21, 2007 04:00 pm at 4:00 pm |
  19. Jim Brent, Newport, RI

    I will try again...so the article states that .06% of the 2 million+ armed forces men and women are supporting a fringe element in US politics. Who cares? Moveon.org is made up of a bunch of whiny, politically motivaed losers that do not have anything better to do than spew their PAC bile across the pages of the NY Times...interesting that this was not prited in the WSJ or any other credible newsource.

    September 21, 2007 04:01 pm at 4:01 pm |
  20. Glenn McPherson San Marcos, CA

    Lets call a spade a spade. These two guys are puppets on the GOPs strings. What do you expect? I say put the guy responsible on the hot seat. Of course that will never happen. He is insulated with these blindly loyal subordinates that are literally paid to say anything he wants. The dems drill them during the hearings but when voting time comes they melt like a snowball in h**/. My take is that many of you (dems) are tied to the same strings and this is all for show. The voters giveth and they can also, as you have seen, can taketh away. Dont forget whom you really work for. I don't care how many of you we have fire until we someone decent(honest), that embraces the constitution, is fair, does not discriminate, and is a team player, and who will be accountable to those who elected them.

    September 21, 2007 04:02 pm at 4:02 pm |
  21. Larry, Amarilo, TX

    As CNN do not want to post my message, let me reword it:

    you are dead wrong in your argument. When Kerry was attacked by Swift Boaters, republicans never showed any outrage and there was no vote in the senate condemning it. Here, ar least 22 democrats joined with republicans to show their disapproval. That is the difference of mentalities between dems and republicans. Why didn't these republicans who voted to condemn the ad, voted for Webb amendment to show their support for the troops? That clearly shows these republicans are trying to protect Bush than their support to the troops. And, it was quite evident that Gen Petraeus was delivering Bush's message in a twisted way as if he was doing a favor to bring 30,000 troops home which didn't mean anything.

    September 21, 2007 04:06 pm at 4:06 pm |
  22. Nicholas Thor

    As a member of the army I hate to say it but I do somewhat agree with the moveon.org ad. The one thing many people forget is you can have an opinion that is anti war but that doesn't mean you are against the troops. It just simply means you are like the majority of this nation who no longer feels the need to support politicians who are out to line their own pockets.

    Furthermore, when it comes down to it the generals that are in place now have been around long enough to know that if they don't give glowing remarks about the administration they lose their job. So if you wonder why the military is slowly turning liberal its because its the most accurate cross section of our nation and what the military feels normally reflects what the populace feels almost perfectly.

    So regardless of your feelings about the ad the media should actually take up the pickets and attack all the politicians who have so far played a game of banter with the lives of America's youth.

    September 21, 2007 04:16 pm at 4:16 pm |
  23. M T Madison, WI

    This has nothing to do with free speech, it has to do with a civilian politician crossing the line and using a military leader as his spokesman for his distortions and lies. How many generals did King Decider already fire for disagreeing?

    September 21, 2007 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  24. David Hillman, Milton Florida

    I believe no matter what you think about the war, this administrations response is designed to distract you from the war. Judging from several of these responses it has succeeded.

    I don't think many believe Mr. Bush (I refuse to call him my President) tells the entire truth about much of anything, especially anything that reflects badly on him.

    We talked about impeaching out last president for lying about who he had sex with, why are we not considering the same thing for a president that has lied about his reasons for war, and about how that same war is going?

    I really don't understand people's priorities anymore...

    September 21, 2007 04:27 pm at 4:27 pm |
  25. Kris, Toronto, Canada

    News flash: Liberals have grown a backbone and will not be kicked around anymore. Get used to it.

    September 21, 2007 04:34 pm at 4:34 pm |
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