September 22nd, 2007
01:10 PM ET
2 years ago

Paul: Time for U.S. to leave U.N.

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

(CNN)–Saying "I'm a believer in trade," Rep. Ron Paul says the World Trade Organization, is threatening the sovereignty of the United States.

"The WTO has now been able to come to our Congress and dictate to us, we as a Congress, and as a party has endorsed the idea that we should raise taxes on certain corporations at the directive of the W.T.O in order to satisfy and be upstanding members of the W.T.O.," The GOP presidential hopeful said Saturday. "We should never raise taxes period, but certainly because the W.T.O. tells us to do so."

Paul said the W.T.O., and other organizations that support free trade are an outgrowth of the United Nations. As a result, "I support this notion of protecting sovereignty by getting out of the United Nations," he said. The Texas Congressman said he has sponsored legislation calling for the U.S. to withdraw from the United Nations since he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.

Paul made his comments before a weekend retreat for Michigan Republicans on Mackinac Island, Michigan. Most of his fellow rivals for the GOP nomination were also scheduled to address the group as well.

– CNN Political Desk Editor Jamie Crawford


Filed under: Race to '08 • Ron Paul
soundoff (140 Responses)
  1. Shorebreak, Indy IN

    I dislike very few candidates out right but he is one of them. He gos to far in all of his policies. I also find it concerning that he has this 3% of republican grass root following that seems to find a way to make it seem like he is great. He can not win because he is an extremist in politics.

    Posted By Joliene, Newark, DE : September 22, 2007 4:41 pm

    Where do you get your 3% data from? From the mainsream media who lies about the popularity of the ma who terrifies the corporate globalists who control our news?

    I was watching FOX News after the most recent televised debates when they showed the debate winners in terms of percentage. Ron Pauls name wasn't included on the list, which totaled less than 60%. Meaning that over 40% of the respondents weren't revealed. It's not hard to do the math ad figure out where that 40% went. The media is omitting the truth and the people are falling for it.

    This link shows the Alabama GOP straw poll that was taken last month. Ron Paul won with 81% of the votes. You didn't see that reported on CNN or FOX, did you?

    http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj17sHDWamw&mode=related&search=

    Paul has won the GOP straw polls in Maryland, Texas, Pennsylvania, Washington, and several other states. He's placed 2nd or 3rd in most states where he didn't place first.

    If you believe that the "3%" figures are accurate, then you must also believe that the mainstream media reports the whole truth. For your own sake and for the future sake of America and liberty, I hope that is not the case.

    September 22, 2007 07:16 pm at 7:16 pm |
  2. Danielle- Las Vegas, NV

    Christian I don't see what is so over the edge. What has happened to our dollar this week, and what is happening to the economy are all things Ron Paul has talked about, warned us about and wrote about. Will you people stop parroting the media please?

    September 22, 2007 07:25 pm at 7:25 pm |
  3. Jon, Minneapolis MN

    I dislike very few candidates out right but he is one of them. He gos to far in all of his policies. I also find it concerning that he has this 3% of republican grass root following that seems to find a way to make it seem like he is great. He can not win because he is an extremist in politics.

    Posted By Joliene, Newark, DE : September 22, 2007 4:41 pm

    Joliene, you're an embarrassment. Dr. Ron Paul is FAR from an extremist, he has an immaculate voting record, and follows this thing called the Constitution of the United States of America.

    September 22, 2007 07:41 pm at 7:41 pm |
  4. Jon, Minneapolis MN

    "He would make a terrible president. He is a Republican and he has terrible posture. Not to mention he's from Texas."

    Posted By laurinda,ny : September 22, 2007 3:02 pm

    Are you kidding me with this? Ron Paul is not your typical GOP neoconservative warhawk, He is a TRUE conservative, SMALL GOVERNMENT, be friends with countries, no entangling alliances. Look into the issues please.

    September 22, 2007 07:48 pm at 7:48 pm |
  5. KD, Dallas, TX

    To someone who makes sense on herem I agree completely with your response:

    The other members of the United Nations are for Peace not war. They are for discussing not dictating. And they all see the US for what it is not what it claims to be. George W. Bush turned the world into Chaos with no plan for reversal not the UN.

    The Decider got you where you are today and you put him there, not the UN. And I won't be surprised if Americans vote another just like him to the White House. Power and Dollars versus Humanity and Peace seems to be the American Constitution.

    Posted By William W Halifax N.S. : September 22, 2007 1:44 pm

    Can you even begin to imagine the damage pulling out of the UN would have across the world? It would solidify the arrogance seen in this current administration. Why or why can't we work together with other people? Why do we think we can run the world by ourselves? Why are some so completely selfish? I fear what the next election will be, more of this type of government is sure to have an irreversable effect on our country.

    September 22, 2007 08:23 pm at 8:23 pm |
  6. Justin, Atlanta, GA

    Finally an honest (and intelligent) politician that we can actually trust.

    Ron Paul is the most popular presidential candidate on the internet, and there's a reason for that! The mainstream media may continue to ignore his growing success, but he's got more grassroots support than anyone that's ever run for president.

    Keep the federal goverment out of your life. End the IRS. Legalize freedom!

    Ron Paul is Hope for America! A true conservative voice.

    RonPaul2008.com

    September 22, 2007 08:38 pm at 8:38 pm |
  7. KD, Dallas, TX

    To Collin in Seattle,

    I think the key word in your response is supposedly....

    Ron doesn't want to get out of the UN for "political reasons". He wants to do it becuase the UN just doesn't work. Look where it has gotten. We are in Iraq to supposedly enfore UN resolutions. The UN is corrupt and it just doesn't work and we need to admit it.

    Most of us think that the war was fought for oil, not UN sanctions. Saddam was given a date to comply by documenting every weapon he had in Iraq, that written document was provided on the date given by Bush. Bush then tried to tie Saddam to Al Qaeda, which was not present in Iraq at that time. Bush took us to war through manipulation and lies to support his PNAC (Project for a New American Century) ideology of global domination. Who exactly is the corrupt one here?

    September 22, 2007 08:51 pm at 8:51 pm |
  8. Rob A., Eden Prairie, MN

    I like Ron Paul and agree with most of his ideas. Not sure about this, as the UN does suck, but it is the closest thing we have to some sort of world body, which in my opinion is something we need. I also don't like his stance on abortion. Still, he is the only Republican candidate I would even consider voting for.

    If you haven't seen it, you MUST watch this movie: zeitgeistmovie.com
    It is an eye opener.

    September 22, 2007 09:36 pm at 9:36 pm |
  9. sandman,rochester,ny

    The U.N. was created by the globalist Rockefeller family who hold no allegiance to WE THE PEOPLE. Ron Paul has awakened a slumbering public and those that have benefited from the chicanery don't like it one bit!

    When power is put into fewer and fewer hands corruption ensues. Elementary!
    We WILL get our Republic back and Ron Paul WILL lead the way.

    Freedom IS popular!

    September 22, 2007 09:45 pm at 9:45 pm |
  10. Chris, Middletown, CT

    Ron Paul sounds like an excellent advisor – we all have crazy friends who have 90% good ideas....and 10% insane ones. He sounds like one of those guys – we can look at alot of what he has to say and agree with it....(same can be said for any of the candidates) – we live in a global economy – the talk of building huge walls around our borders (especially in this day and age) and the talk of withdrawing from the UN....is just nuts...the fact that the WTO asks us to raise taxes on certain companies...doesn't preclude us from saying "thanks for the advice...now go away" – a moderate with common sense is what we need...theres only one moderate running on either side....Rudy

    September 22, 2007 09:58 pm at 9:58 pm |
  11. lynn, vancouver, bc

    In defense of my fellow Canadian from Halifax:

    The fees in the United Nations is based a country's GNP, external debt and low per capita income. The United States pays 22% of the cost while Canada pays 2.8%. As our population is approximately 1/9th of yours we are actually paying more per capita than you are.

    Americans are too ready to hold onto and spout off urban myths that are untrue and to condemn everyone else. At the same time as you are condemning the UN, others are crying for them to help out in Iraq.

    Americans who support the war, claim they are making the world safer. Tell that to the Syrians who now have 1.2 million Iraqi refugees who have fled their homes as a result of this illegal war. At least 0.8 more million refugees have fled to other Middle Eastern states and other areas of the world. The US has taken very few, even those who have risked their lives to help. More breeding grounds for terrorists?? The UN did not support this war.

    When 911 happened you were quick to start blaming Canada, insisting they snuck across our border when in fact they came directly into your country with American visas and some were even taught to fly there.

    Now due to your inability to protect your southern border, southern Ontario is facing a surge of your illegal aliens claiming refugee crisis there. You have made my country less safe due to your own inability to police your border.

    Many Canadians are also against Nafta as your government is pressing our gov't to lower our standards of pesticide, sugar content and fairedr labour standards to those of your own.

    Americans were quick to condemn China for the dangerous toys that were imported; however, it turns out the president of Mattel has had to apologize to China as the American giant was the one largely to blame due to design defacts.

    Your gov't can not get anything done, are running a ridiculous two year election that probably wont matter as there will be countless problems with voter registration, malfunctioning voting machines, chads... In the mean time your president is able to do anything he wants like a dictator and you can do nothing but live through the next sixteen months...some democracy! And your politicians criticize the "democracy" Iraq.

    The list goes on and on and on....

    I wouldn't comment but most of us are sick of hearing from you and having to listen to you being the "greatest democracy" in the world when we all know you are not.

    The only check on any nation that abuses its power is the UN!

    September 22, 2007 10:16 pm at 10:16 pm |
  12. William W Halifax N.S

    KD, Dallas, TX

    Thank you so much for stating your agreement. I have to admit I went abit overboard and I apologize. I am not usually that over zealous on issues. But the comments I read on this site in agreement with Ron Paul's stand on politics and the UN are nothing less than frightful.

    And truly I can only pray that there is a God and he'll see fit to give America an experienced, diplomatic leader who is more interested in World Peace than World Domination.

    My perception of our World today is to say the least worrisome. I am not an American and can't vote but that doesn't mean that the result of America's Presidential Election will not affect me.

    We are a Global community like it or not and we must find a way to live in Peace and Security together for the good of all mankind. No Nation will stand still and be dominated by another and who would expect them to? Would we? Yet, it seems that some feel it is the Mid East's duty to do so?
    The most valid confirmation I've heard of that concept came from Bill Clinton.
    I can't quote him but the jist of his statement was that these people feel they do not belong and are not important to the World Dynamics. And untill they do they keep practicing their same terrorist tactics. It is their way to feel they matter. And that is truly sad.

    September 22, 2007 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm |
  13. Sergio, Parlin New Jersey

    Ron Paul is Andrew Jackson 2.0.

    Woohoo

    September 22, 2007 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm |
  14. Albert Meyer, Plano TX

    I love Ron Paul! I have to pinch myself. I will cast my vote with hope and expectation. We the people have found our candidate, a man of integrity, honesty, humility and consistency. It is quite remarkable.

    September 22, 2007 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm |
  15. Victoria, San Diego, CA

    Americans should understand that while our Constitution dictates that Government power stems from the people that most of the rest of the world's people derive rights from their Governments. The UN (and its many sub-organizations) is no exception to the latter policy. Further, most of the world and such bodies as the UN do not view property as an inalienable right. While the UN and other international orgs sound good in theory, their goals are quite nefarious. They use well intentioned sounding rhetoric, like environmental protection as the thin edge of the wedge to gain power and supersede sovereignty but their true agenda is far from what you think. Eugenics and population control (including abortion and worse) is one controversial goal that comes to mind. Look into what the UN and its sub-orgs actually do around the world, not what they tell you they do or want to do. Getting out of the UN and all its orgs is a must for a free people in a sovereign America.

    September 22, 2007 11:00 pm at 11:00 pm |
  16. Kurt, Arlington, TX

    Paul makes an interesting observation! I'm a little bemused that there are actually still people who believe that the UN and WTO are doing anything productive in the world. Perhaps we'd do well to go back to direct communication with other nations instead of deferring to these bizarre despot-heavy organizations. And yes, the Iraq war was a UN resolution.

    September 22, 2007 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm |
  17. Matt, Coral Gables, FL

    Ron Paul is in no way like Bush, and he is NOT for removing ourselves from having good relationships with other countries. He is NOT an isolationist.

    Libertarians DO understand the necessity of working with other nations. Ron Paul discusses non-interventionism, trading, and diplomacy with other nations, and is for not letting our sovereignty be ruled by international organizations and trade agreements. But he is NOT for going at it alone.

    He is also the only real conservative running for the Republican nomination. The rest are neo-cons or liberals in sheep's clothing. For anyone who thinks that Ron Paul goes too far with his beliefs and policies, you need to learn more about WHY he espouses the policies that he does. They aren't just randomly thrown together, and you are just uneducated about the reasons he has, and fearful of something that you don't understand. Read more about libertarianism, get educated on the issues, because this isn't some random, misplaced ideals of his. Ron Paul is for freedom, and for bringing our country back to where it needs to be.

    For those who think that pulling out of the UN would be dangerous, it is because you are rightfully fearful of the world that Bush has created for us. Ron Paul would do the right things to make the world like America again, even WITHOUT being a part of the UN, for a start by not policing the globe.

    You guys are ridiculous, building your straw man out of isolationism and then refuting it like that is what Ron Paul actually stands for.

    September 22, 2007 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm |
  18. Tim, Mercer, Maine

    I'm laughing at those that are calling Ron Paul names. To answer some allegations.

    Ron Paul lives in Texas, but actually is from a town near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He paid his way through college with a paper route.

    Ron Paul is not an anti-semite, in fact, he has pictures of Mises (Jewish economist founder of the Austrian School of Economics) and Rothbard (Father of libertarianism and Economist who is also Jewish).

    No war experience? He is a DRAFTED air force veteran medic, who knows how many soldier's lives he saved with his own hands.

    So please, cut it out with the 'tin foil' talk. Do about 15 minutes of research on Dr. Paul before you call him names.

    Look at our choices for a Republican candidate this Presidential election. Ron Paul should win the primary HANDS DOWN!

    I'm voting for Ron Paul.

    September 22, 2007 11:16 pm at 11:16 pm |
  19. Isaac Lee, Hong Kong, China

    This article is misleading, Ron Paul is very pro-free trade, but organizations like the WTO is not. The WTO is for managed trade, and NAFTA too. When does free trade require a 10,000 page document?

    September 22, 2007 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm |
  20. Mike, NY

    The general message I get from some people here is: "The US does not have the authority to run the world, but the UN does!"

    The UN has tried to impose taxes. They are trying to impose gun control laws. Individual countries are more than capable of talking with other nations and working out treaties without the UN and its aspirations of creating a global government.

    September 23, 2007 12:21 am at 12:21 am |
  21. Tricia M Charlotteotown PEI

    Paul said "the W.T.O., and other organizations that support free trade are an outgrowth of the United Nations. As a result, "I support this notion of protecting sovereignty by getting out of the United Nations," he said.

    Being an outgrowth of the United Nations is not the whole of the United Nations. One should not dissolve themselves from a United Whole to get rid of a small sector.

    The WTO and the United Nations are not one and the same. The WTO is for the purposes of trading between United Nations. I don't disagree that this organization does not benefit all members. But, Ron Paul appears to be penalizing the United Nations for infractions taking place within the WTO that the UN do not govern.

    The United Nations was formed after World War II for the purpose of Uniting Nations in the cause of peace and preventing such tragic wars in our future.

    "These instutions have no legitimacy but their allow to influence our laws.Dr. Paul is right no one except the American people should have a say on how we run our country."

    And I expect Iraq feels the same don't you?

    The Iraq War was not due to UN Resolutions. The Iraq war began and continues with George W. Bush. If it had been proven that Iraq had WMD's than Bush may have had a valid reason to ensure such weapons were not used against the US. However, he did not have that proof. In fact he was told by his inspectors, Iraq did not have WMD's.

    He did not discuss the Iraq issue with the United Nations, as would be normal protocol. He told the United Nations he was attacking Iraq. And he told Nato Allies if they weren't with him, they were against him. A bully tactic to force Nato Allies to comply with his Will be it right or wrong. And the outcome of his unnecessary rush to War is what Iraqui's and the World are forced to live with today.

    President Bush's decision to attack Iraq goes against every grain the United Nations stands for. They United to prevent that very action by one Nation against the other! Bush took matters into his own hands.

    So, I guess you could say, no one except the American people HAS a say on how they run their country. So if this is the reason Ron Paul wants to dissolve the US membership with the United Nations, there is no need. As the US is already running their own country the way they see fit,while being a member of the United Nations.
    So how exactly is the United Nations influencing or impeding the US from governing their Nation as they see fit? The question should be, Why does the US feel they are privilidged in having impunity to UN resolutions that other UN Members are required to abide by?

    Thank you for allowing me to voice my comments.

    September 23, 2007 12:24 am at 12:24 am |
  22. John Thomas, Edina, MN

    Gotta love this rookie editor's writing. Claiming that the W.T.O supports free trade is laughable at best; a downright lie would be more fitting. Where do you pick up these rooks, CNN?

    September 23, 2007 12:37 am at 12:37 am |
  23. matt everett ridgely, md

    We, should never raise taxes? What if we are at war and the terrorist are winning and the only hope is more funding.

    There are obviously some instances where you will have to raise taxes, regardless of your political views, you must be open to all types of legislation when the time comes.

    Taxes on China are exactly what we need to get American's back to work for instance.

    Ha, what an idiot withdraw from the UN. We aren't truly obligated to follow UN rules anyway.

    Does Ron Paul not realize this a treaty and therefore a bind agreement, not easily pulled out of, it hold sway as much as a constitutional amendment.

    Whats, so wrong with taking advice from the WTO. America is the most debt ridden country in the world and our congress is least efficient government in the world. Taking the advice from foreign nations, who clearly are doing a better job at managing their money can't be an all around bad idea.

    If he doesn't like an aspect of the WTO, let him say what that aspect is, not beat around the bush and make sensationalist statements.

    September 23, 2007 01:02 am at 1:02 am |
  24. James

    I enjoyed reading some of these comments even the insults. The thing I find interesting is the intentions of the founding fathers of America was commerce with all and alliance with none. I think Ron Paul makes a lot of sense he gets what America was supposed to be not what we become. Legalize the constitution vote Ron Paul

    September 23, 2007 01:03 am at 1:03 am |
  25. Greg, Indian Trail NC

    Quote:

    The Iraq War was not due to UN Resolutions. The Iraq war began and continues with George W. Bush. If it had been proven that Iraq had WMD's than Bush may have had a valid reason to ensure such weapons were not used against the US. However, he did not have that proof. In fact he was told by his inspectors, Iraq did not have WMD's.

    Funny statement, look up the following on CNN.com:
    clinton 1998 war

    How soon we forget.

    Also lookup:
    iraq wmd 2000

    So Bush was the only person that believed there were WMD's?

    September 23, 2007 01:50 am at 1:50 am |
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