September 25, 2007
Posted: September 25th, 2007 10:15 AM ET

Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minnesota

MINNEAPOLIS, Minnesota (CNN) - The controversy over the MoveOn.org ad criticizing General David Petraeus is now taking center stage in a high profile Senate race in Minnesota.

Republican Sen. Norm Coleman ran a full page ad Tuesday in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, blasting Democratic challenger Al Franken for raising money for MoveOn.org. The ad — headlined “Ridiculous” — criticizes the Franken campaign’s response to last week’s Senate vote criticizing the group’s ad.

The Coleman ad says, “What is really ridiculous is that Al Franken helped raise money for MoveOn.org to pay for ads like the one they did smearing General Petraeus and undermining our troops in the field.”

Replying to the ad, a Franken spokesperson tells CNN, “Minnesotans want Norm Coleman to vote to end the war and bring the troops home. He won’t stand up to this president, so instead he’s taken out an ad criticizing Al for criticizing a Senate resolution that criticized MoveOn.org for taking out an ad criticizing General Petraeus. Ridiculous is exactly the right word.”

Franken and attorney Mike Ciresi are competing for the Democratic nomination to run against Coleman next fall.

– CNN's Steve Brusk and Matt Hoye

Filed under: Minnesota Senate race


Martin Chicago, Illinois   September 26th, 2007 2:48 pm ET

Moveon.Org apologized and had to remove antisemitic statements from their website. Here is excerpts from a letter sent by Eli Pariser to the Anti-Defamation league,

"Dear Mr. Pariser:

We have received complaints that anti-Semitic messages have been posted on the Action Forum under the auspices of MoveOn.org. Some of the examples are "media owning Jewish pigs," referring to Senator Joseph Lieberman as "Jew Lieberman," "Zionazis," and "why are the Jews so Jew-y?"

Moveon.Org didn't think it was a problem until the Anti-Defamation league made a stink about it.

It must have been an "oversight" by Moveon.Org!?

Al Franken – keep contributing to this wonderful organization! They do so much good (eyes rolling).

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ   September 26th, 2007 10:10 am ET

What Minnestoans should be looking at is the voting record of Norm Coleman as well as the positon that Al Franken has taken.

There are some other questions that people have to ask about Norm Coleman; has he served the state well in the Senate? Beyond his "Franken and Moveon.org" ad, does he have anything positive for him or other notable concerns about Franken? Now on to Franken, do his positions reflect many people in Minnesota? If the ad connecting him to Moveon.org is relevant, did he have any connection with the actual ad?

Things to think about for those who live in Minnesota. Remember, just because someone worked with a group before doesn't mean that the person continues to agree with all of the actions after that.

Raj, Dallas, Tx   September 26th, 2007 10:09 am ET

Well, everything was going smooth till moveon.org started that ad. Bottom line, it has hurt democrats and did give momentum to the republicans. Also, in the last few weeks there is a big shift going on Iraq and it is not getting bad. This general has turned the corner and senator coleman has done the right thing. Having said that, Senator Coleman is in trouble because he is below 50% in approval rating. Any incumbent below 50%, has a very tough race. But in the other side, he did not get elected with a land slide and he might still win lot of city votes again because of his stature as former mayor.

Scott, Fort Lauderdale, FL   September 26th, 2007 9:54 am ET

I am surprised they havent been branded terrosits yet. I bet if they were out of the middle east thats exactly what these right wingers would be pushing on FOX, never fair, never balanced.

Christian, Atlanta, GA   September 26th, 2007 9:22 am ET

Ask the 101st about their general. the man who is called "liar and betrayer" even BEFORE he speaks. What are these cowards afraid of…loss of power. "Death from above" the insurgents know this much and units like the 101st or 82nd Airborne would make the cowardly like Hillary, Obama and Soros (Americans all….well not all) crap their pants to stand face to face with a true American hero, leader, defender, and giver of Freedom. Remember only two have ever given their lives willingly to protect you all (good, or evil) and that is Jesus Christ and the American GI. The fact you can read this is because of men like Gen. Petraeus and those who preceded him. God bless him and protect the US from the rats called Democ"rats" They used to call themselves commies, but Demo"rats" fit some much better. Franken is a failed everything….Gopher from the love boat was a better representative than this liar. Norm Coleman believes…Franken believes only what gives him money, power and recognition he has failed to get in any other attempt he has made…we call them flops and failures….

Giver of Freedom?!?!?!?! Are you Shiite-ing me?!?!?! No one can give someone else Freedom. It has to be earned through hard work and self sacrifice. But you are too busy drinking the Koolaid to realize how silly you sound. I weep for you.

Timmer Minnesota   September 26th, 2007 9:00 am ET

Mr. Barnes from WV:
Been in the military? Orders come from above. Always have, always will. Who's the Commander-in-Chief? Think the good general is that much of a maverick that he paints his own picture without his orders from the civilian leadership? Bah...

Jason   September 26th, 2007 7:56 am ET

Al Franken is an arrogant simpleton. He truly believes that a career of criticizing people who actually DO things entitles him to a position of power. Unfortunately many democrats think the same thing.

Judy, Minneapolis, MN   September 26th, 2007 3:24 am ET

Norm Coleman is but another of the Republican Lemmmings who have marched over the cliff, as instructed, with Bush-Cheney and Company. They've collected salaries for almost 7 years and have not done their job. Coleman should know by now that we Minnesotans do not reward that kind of work "ethic."

r. james   September 26th, 2007 1:23 am ET

idiot.......

david W. Lewis Houston Tx   September 25th, 2007 10:48 pm ET

I have heard some outrageous S**T from the right, but since when is Move-On.org anti-semetic and anti-Israel? Even for the now-desperate Repubicans, that is a major stretch!

Moveon.ORG screwed up with the Petraus ad, but as is true with anyone or any group, IT DOES NOT NEGATE ANY GOOD PREVIOUSLY ACCOMPLISHED.

Let's all see who is right...at the next election... haha

Duke Anthony milwaukee wisconsin   September 25th, 2007 10:28 pm ET

Hillary voted for the war. SO did a bunch of other spinelss self serving democrats.

Im getting tired of the democrats line of "we went on the intelligence they gave us at the time" The truth is the democrats voted for the war because they wouldnt of gotten reelected if they had not.

If you went back in time to the year before Iraq. All the Intelligence was already out there that Iraq was not a threat to us. Every time some one from the admin came forward in dissent. They were dismissed as being disgruntled or unpatriotic. The sheer magnitude of the stupidity of my fellow countrymen in regards to this war makes me ashamed.

People that stood up Like Senator Feinstein and congressman Ron Paul who stood up and told the truth without regard to their careers are the people who will get my vote.

Grover Fairfield, Ohio   September 25th, 2007 8:56 pm ET

Bushie fired every general that dared to even suggest that anything was not 'coming up roses. Betray us is right on the mark. He said nothing about ethnic cleansing being the reason Betray us ‘biggest' listed 'success' was a success. He ignored or glossed over the bad spots.

I find it disgusting that bush again uses the military, and that the general would let Bushie do it to him.

Rick, Perry MI   September 25th, 2007 8:45 pm ET

Al Franken is "ridiculous". He is not qualified nor sincere in his pursuit and that should be obvious to anyone who can read and think clearly. One can only hope that the fine people of Minnesota won't commit another blunder of the century, as they did with former Govenor Ventura.

poliscistudent   September 25th, 2007 8:00 pm ET

I think that people need to get over the moveon.org senate resolution. There are far more important issues that the Senate should be looking into and voting on. I think it is ridiculous that it even made it on to the floor. Norm Coleman needs to focus on how to win the election in Minnesota based on what he has done for his constituency and it is not very much.

steve Loudon, TN   September 25th, 2007 7:10 pm ET

Ask the 101st about their general. the man who is called "liar and betrayer" even BEFORE he speaks. What are these cowards afraid of...loss of power. "Death from above" the insurgents know this much and units like the 101st or 82nd Airborne would make the cowardly like Hillary, Obama and Soros (Americans all....well not all) crap their pants to stand face to face with a true American hero, leader, defender, and giver of freedom. Remember only two have ever given their lives willingly to protect you all (good, or evil) and that is Jesus Christ and the American GI. The fact you can read this is because of men like Gen. Petraeus and those who preceded him. God bless him and protect the US from the rats called Democ"rats" They used to call themselves commies, but Demo"rats" fit some much better. Franken is a failed everything....Gopher from the love boat was a better representative than this liar. Norm Coleman believes...Franken believes only what gives him money, power and recognition he has failed to get in any other attempt he has made...we call them flops and failures....

Mike, Milwaukee, WI   September 25th, 2007 6:32 pm ET

If it wasn't for Sen. Wellstone's unexpected death, Coleman wouldn't even be in the Senate. Polls leading up to his death had Wellstone leading Coleman by 7 points. Coleman has tried so hard to turn Minnesota red by his lockstep with George Bush. Turn it back blue.....Minnesotans should show Sen. Coleman the door....

Alex, NYC   September 25th, 2007 5:42 pm ET

I'm a Jew and I support Moveon.org. Moveon is not anti-semetic and not anti-Israel just anti-Bush and anti-war. STOP THE LIES AND END THE WAR!!!!

Steve Thomas   September 25th, 2007 5:31 pm ET

My God! With all that's going on in the world, the collapsing transportation infrastructure, pointless wars in the middle east, economic meltdowns, the only thing Sen. Norm Coleman can focus on is a stupid, MoveOn.org ad?

Norm (and the rest of you) Get A Life!

Mike, Cleveland, Ohio   September 25th, 2007 5:26 pm ET

To add to the list of lies told by the administration that Pat, Huntington, NY mentioned

"The level of activity that we see today from a military standpoint, I think, will clearly decline. I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency."
-Dick Cheney May 2005

unknown airman San Antonio TX   September 25th, 2007 4:54 pm ET

If you want to know how to feel about the General, then go ask a member of the 101st airborne, who served under him during one of the toughest parts of the war. I wouldnt insult the general in their presence. As such im not surprised That so many senators are defending him, i am sadden that so few democratic senators aren't. So much for bi-partisanship.

Mary, Minneapolis, Mn.   September 25th, 2007 4:38 pm ET

Oops! It was reported last night that Sen. Coleman was the one who received the discount rate from the Star Tribune. Al Franken had to pay more for his full page ad several weeks ago. What does Sen. Coleman have to say about that? It must be that liberal press! It is a tacky ad which links to his fundraising page. Just more of the same, distract the electorate from the real issue, the occupation of Iraq. The Appointed One Coleman can't run from Bush's apron strings. They are too tightly wound. By the way, Coleman's ad just inspired me to give another donation to the Franken Campaign!

Sarah, Kansas City, MO   September 25th, 2007 4:20 pm ET

Contrary to the thinking of people like Bruce Barnes of WV, there is alot of grumbling among the ranks of the military about the war. And, in fact, Bush did lie to get us into this God forsaken war. He had many Americans, like you, believing that Saddam was behind 9/11 when it is clear he was not. There were no terrorists in Iraq until we arrived there. We, actually, brought the terrorists to Iraq. And, what about WMD? Nuclear weapons? All lies.

I hope the people of Minnesota will get rid of Coleman in '08. The man clearly is not representing the will of the people he was elected to represent.

Here, in Missouri, we have one Senator (Bond) who is another dolt for Bush. He has been a knee-jerk supporter for everything Bush has done. Too bad he is not up for re-election until 2010

Scott Moyer, Kalamazoo, MI   September 25th, 2007 4:14 pm ET

Though I too, as a MoveOn subscriber, thought the MoveOn ad was a bit over the top, I really don't see how it differs much from the Swift Boat group and the inflammatory remarks and ads they lobbed at Kerry back in 2004 or the current ones being aired now by Ari Fliesher's group that falsely link Iraq to 9-11 downing of the Twin Towers. As the old saying goes "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

Don Fitzgerald, Chicago   September 25th, 2007 4:09 pm ET

What a sad day it is when the likes of Senator Coleman chooses to defend a broken-down policy in, what was formerly known as, Iraq and criticizes Al Franken for exercising his right to free speech. I know the late, great senator from Minnesota, Hubert Humphrey would have something to say to Senator Coleman and it wouldn't be " Have a nice day. ". Al Franken will make a great Senator from Minnesota and I hope the citizens of that great state will give him that chance.
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME, ALIVE. NOW.

Robert Cadalso, NYC, Miami   September 25th, 2007 3:45 pm ET

Coleman needs to stop allowing our Idiot President to continue this war.

Support our troops, Bring them home!

STOP THE MADNESS, STOP BUSH!

ronnie - knoxville, tn.   September 25th, 2007 3:04 pm ET

AHHHHHHH, it's Frankenstein ! ...!

Cindy Twin Cities, MN   September 25th, 2007 3:01 pm ET

Al Franken – lame comedian, failed Radio Talk-Show host – now wants the good people of Minnesota to elect him to office?

Reject the politics of Moveon.Org. Reject Franken.

Norm Coleman – you have my vote.

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   September 25th, 2007 2:48 pm ET

Norm "Smiley" Coleman says "I'm right enough politically, I'm wrong enough militarily, and gosh darn it, people used to like me when I had some fortitude to stand up to an alcoholic Texan."

Pat, Huntington, NY   September 25th, 2007 2:30 pm ET

Bruce Barnes – my proof that the General and our President lie about the current state of IRaq come from friends of mine serving in the military over there, who say things are not as they are being portrayed by the administration and by Gen. Petraus in particular. As for specific lies – lets see, the multi-faceted reasons for going to war in the first place, his insistence on Iraq playing a direct role in 9-11 despite the 9-11 Commission's documented proof that it didn't; would you like more? Hopefully others reading this will add to it. And Bruce, my dear, sit and twirl! It is my God-given right to question the veracity of my government, especially in a time of war! Comments like yours are more appropriate in forums sponsored by Iran, or Al Jazeera where any expression of dissidence is met with a gun to the head.

fred   September 25th, 2007 1:50 pm ET

Set them in their place Norm. How embarrasing it would be for MN to elect franken after having elected that Hulk Hogen character. At least Norm has experience with being a mayor and Senator.

Pixie, Murfreesboro, TN   September 25th, 2007 1:32 pm ET

You all might be interested to know that Moveon.org originated during the Clinton Impeachment hearings....get this, they SUPPORTED the impeachment of Clinton. Interesting little factoid. While many republicans are succumbing to the vapors and clutching their pearls at the Moveon ad that rightly indicated Gen. Patreus as a shill for the white house, the war continues to rage on, and our neoconservative buddies in the white house are practically pole dancing at the thought of war with Iran. If this is the best that Coleman can do - attack supporters of Franken rather than Franken's position on the issues, then the sooner the election is held in Minnesota, the better.

BTW- I also remember when Mr. Coleman was taken to school by Mr. George Galloway, can we say SMACK DOWN?

TC Plainfield, IL   September 25th, 2007 1:21 pm ET

Voters in states like Minnesota must do the right thing in 2008. They need to vote out republicans like Sen. Coleman. The last two years, people have been wondering why this congress cannot put an end to the war in Iraq. Some point their fingers at the Democrats. After all, they have slight majorities in both houses. The blame sits squarely in the laps of the Senate republicans who refuse to accept the will of the people on this issue. They use the rules of the Senate, which require 60 votes to overturn a filibuster, to put off an end to this war. Minnesotans need to do the right thing, elect a Democrat in 2008 and give the Democrats the working majority they need to get the job done!

Bruce Barnes, Harpers Ferry, WV   September 25th, 2007 1:04 pm ET

sorry Pat from Huntington, NY. Youare way off base in your attack on Gen. Patreaus. this is an honorable man who is simply telling everyone what he saw and what he thinks needs to be done. He didn't sugarcoat anything. he very pointedly talked about the things that went wrong as well as right. You spew your lies without anything to back it up. As usual, people like you just listen to idiots from places like Moveon.org without a thought as to what the facts are. If you have proof the the General or even the President out-and-out lied (which you can't) please tell us. i am sure we would ALL love to know.

r sisk, nevada   September 25th, 2007 12:51 pm ET

When the previous Generals spoke out in opposition to this occupation, they were all fired. Amazingly, Bush finds a general who paints a rosy picture of this fiasco, even contradicting himself in reference to his military strategy guidelines. (Petraus). MoveOn was correct in their advertisement and sometimes the truth can be disrespectful. It's time to get ugly about ending this occupation and if that means hurting someones feelings or tarnishing someones career, tough s–t. One more life lost is much worse than questioning authority. Especially, this lying, conniving, bullying administration.

You go Franken!!!!!

Christian, Tampa FL   September 25th, 2007 12:35 pm ET

Well said, Albert from Seattle.

This feather-puffing over the MoveOn ad that the Republicans are engaging in is just an excuse not to talk about the real issue at hand: That they continue to force the country to participate in a war that the vast majority of the public do not want to be involved in.

Albert, Seattle, WA   September 25th, 2007 12:29 pm ET

Why doesn't the "soon to be former Senator" Coleman take out an ad apologizing to each of the families who will be losing their sons or daughters over the next 15 months... while he and his fellow Repulicans sit back and allow this unfortunate war to continue.

Chris, Middletown, CT   September 25th, 2007 12:16 pm ET

Soros is doing such an excellent job manipulating the weak minded – yes....follow Mr Soros....listen to his words....forget that Hillary voted for the war with the same intelligence....yes....you are getting sleepy....(btw...Minnesotians voted for Jesse Ventura for governor....proud...you are not)

Pat, Huntington, NY   September 25th, 2007 12:06 pm ET

It is indeed ridiculous to focus on what moveon.org used as its banner headline for the ad, as opposed to its content. Since when is it wrong to question the gov't? Just because the message about how things were going on in Iraq was packaged neatly in someone from the armed forces [a rove-style maneuver to lable unpatriotic and against the soilders if you questioned the guy], doesn't detract its real source- our lying president and his administration of yes-men and women. Therefore, it was entirely appropriate to question the veracity of what Gen. Petraeus had to say – and guess what people...things are not as rosey in Iraq as the general portrayed them to be.

Rurik, St. Paul, MN   September 25th, 2007 11:58 am ET

Norm Coleman is a blight on our political landscape. He does NOT represent the values, beliefs or desires of Minnesotans and his 98% rate of voting with President Bush has made him a joke here in Minnesota.

Pickles, Monaca, PA   September 25th, 2007 11:52 am ET

More Republican posturing. More self-righteous blather.

therealist   September 25th, 2007 11:45 am ET

“Ridiculous” is a good word to use in front of "Al Franken".

Patricia Van Dyke   September 25th, 2007 11:41 am ET

moveon.org is avowedly anti-Israel and anti-semitic so it is no surprise they are going after Norm Coleman.

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