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re: Ms. Punto's comments:

These are children; they are not the military. There is a difference. Conflating issues doesn't prove your bias.

Gee it sounds like a typical case of Scoutaphobia!!!! Another fine upstanding citizen that can't make up his mind on what he thinks. Great choice for President.

I wasn't telling a lie. I just didn't think it was necessary to provide my name. But, since you think I'm not telling the truth in this situation, I'll go ahead and put my name and location. I hope CNN doesn't delete another one of my posts.

Anyone who wants for his teen son's scoutmaster a man who copulates with other men's rectums and thinks such is OK, and tells your son that, and who has a potential sexual attraction to your son, and who takes your son out on overnight camppouts, is an incompetent and unloving parent.

Boy Scouts has every right in the world (and under God) to prohibit men who would lust after and seek to indoctrinate your children into believing sexual perversion is acceptable.

If Bill Richarson dudn't want to be honorary chairman of the scouts, too bad. Some honorable man will be.

And by the way, this is one reason Richardson will never be president to begin with.

James

As a former scout leader, let me say there is absolutely nothing wrong with scouting at the troop level. Scout Troops throughout the nation build fine moral young men that are prepared to go forth and do good in the community. Why is this, is it because of the national program, no it is because of the volunteers and community support that the troops receive at the local level.

So as to Bill Richardson, all I can say, is RIGHT ON BILL.

Simon, why don't you believe me?

I recieved my Eagle Scout pretty recently. I couldn't be who I wanted to be in Boy Scouts for fear of being kicked out of the troop. I loved scouts and it shouldn't discriminate against it's members.
Posted By Anonymous : September 27, 2007 3:27 pm

This is what gays and liberals resort to when commenting in forums and blogs everywhere, anonymous lies and more often attacks when they can't find a real person that supports their views they create one and slap anonymous on it.

Liar

Man look at the "haters"! What about tolerance? One of the countries finest organizations and the tolerant ones are not so tolerant.

IMHO, the BSA would be happy to have Richardson decline the honor. He does not exemplify the Scout Oath and Law. We teach our Scouts to be WAY more tolerant of people with differing opinions than he and those of his ilk.

I recieved my Eagle Scout pretty recently. I couldn't be who I wanted to be in Boy Scouts for fear of being kicked out of the troop. I loved scouts and it shouldn't discriminate against it's members.

Posted By Anonymous : September 27, 2007 3:27 pm

I don't believe you.

Bukky,

How does the President serving as Honorary President provide the scouts with funding?

(It doesn't – so US Presidents have historically accepted this offer of Honorary President).

You are right – Bill Richardson can denounce the Boy Scouts and reject their organization. And the millions of voting parents who have kids in scouting can reject Bill Richardson.

Bukky – do you support any organizations which discriminate?

I recieved my Eagle Scout pretty recently. I couldn't be who I wanted to be in Boy Scouts for fear of being kicked out of the troop. I loved scouts and it shouldn't discriminate against it's members.

If a straight man wanted to be a Girl Scout troup leader, warning bells would be ringing, and a chorus of 'hell no!' would be uttered by people of all persuasions.

Posted By Jess Sayin’

Biology 101... Straight men are male, Girls Scouts are female.

If a man (gay or straight) want to be a scout... they have the BOY scouts

If a woman (gay or straight) wanted to be scout... they have GIRL scouts

Men can't be GIRL scouts...Its not a gay or straight issue

Really.... think about it

"Nevermind the US Supreme Court upheld the Constitutional right of a PRIVATE organization to include or exclude based on the emphasis of the Scout creed."

Posted By James, Phoenix AZ :

Yes a private organization may discriminate... but if they do "THEY CAN NOT GET ANY PUBLIC FUNDING"...Having the press serve as honorary president would be saying that he supports there stance on this and other issues. He should not accept the position if their position on the issue insults his sensibilities.

Not to worry Boy Scouts...Richardson will most definitely be back with you..no chance of him not returning!

If a straight man wanted to be a Girl Scout troup leader, warning bells would be ringing, and a chorus of 'hell no!' would be uttered by people of all persuasions.

Think about it.

Yeah – let's get back to harrassing boy scouts!

Nevermind the US Supreme Court upheld the Constitutional right of a PRIVATE organization to include or exclude based on the emphasis of the Scout creed.

And let's not acknowledge that such discrimination happens EVERY day (girls softball teams discriminate boys, my white son is excluded from applying for NAACP college scholarships, the governor of California (Arnold) can NEVER be President because he's an immigrant, etc etc etc).

No, let's just go back to bashing the Boy Scouts.

Thankfully, however, Rupaul has a greater chance of being elected to lead the National Boy Scouts than Bill Richardson being nominated or elected President.

I love this guy. He and Obama would be a fantastic combination! (hmmm...a presidential duo that would actually know something about foreign policy.)

OBAMA/RICHARDSON!!

I love Richardson, and would love to see him on the ticket. However, I just love Obama and Edwards more. However given his wonderful history in diplomacy and education, he would make an excellent Secretary of Education, or Secretary of State. OBAMA EDWARDS 08!!!

Do most boy scout troops actually discriminate based on religion and sexuality? Not really. Is a Boy Scout troops based out of an LDS church or any other church, synagogue, etc, going to be more akin to adhearing to the religious aspects of the organization, sure.

When i was a scout, religion played a very small role in ourr activities. There were many youth who i knew didn't go to church, it wasn't a big deal. We're there gays? i really couldn't tell you.

However, later in my scouting experience i did hear of an interesting story. A youth group from out of state came to a overnight adventure camp. It turns out this unit was comprised of mostly gay scouts. One of the nights, camp staff walked in on some 'late night activities' shall we say. The unit was asked to leave camp that next morning.

Was this discrimination? No. Sexual contact between any gender is prohibited. At co-ed venturing activities, there is no sexual contact allowed between males and females. Offenders are sent home, its that simple. Scouts should not be engaging in that type of activity while at scouting events.

Given that, do I believe the scouting organization needs to realize that homosexuality is not a 'choice' and that these kids deserve the opportunity to particapte in scouting like every other kid. It would just require vigilant monitoring by all the adult volunteers, that's all.

One could say that my idea would be an affront to the religious aspects of Scouting, and indeed Baden Powell wanted this organization to mean something more than just camping in the wooods. But i think many many religions are on the wrong, actually immoral, side of the homosexuality debate.

For all those WWJD wrist bands...many aren't applying their own question to themselves.

Finally. Now, will the rest of them stand up and do the right thing? I doubt it. We must be mindful of the sensibilities of the cave dwellers, but we must never be sesntive to people that have managed to evolve away from primitive notions. Sadly, somewhere along the line, "uhmuricuns" developed a dislike for intellectual progress. Just don't make us live with you in that cave.

Now this really shows a complete lack of leadership. I want a leader who does what he knows to be right, and does not waffle. This is a classic example of leading by public consensus. This is characteristic of previous liberal "leaders." Clinton pulled uds out of Somalia in response to one phone call from Madeline Albright who called from one of the western states after seeing a group of about a dozen college students protesting the U.S. presence in Somalia. Give us a president who will lead by conviction and not by consensus!

This guys got stones and would be a good pick for VP.

Would you also decline being "Commander in chief" as thanks to Bill Clinton we have the don't ask, dont tell policy in regards to gays?

Richardson, have you ever heard of freedom of association? Boy Scouts is not a government organization. They have every right to decide who will or who won't be allowed to participate in their organization.

That was comical. He looked dumb founded as if to say, you've got to be kidding me.

Does this mean he will decline the position of Commander-in-Chief since the military does not allow gays or lesbians to serve?

The Boy Scouts is a Southern Baptist religious organization that also discriminates against atheists.Not just gays.

I gotta admire Richardson's willingness to make amends, but I do find it funny that he has to piss off another organization in order to do it.

I don't see why believing homosexuality is a choice is a negative stance to take. Since homosexuals can't naturally reproduce, labeling it as a genetic predetermination would more likely make the preference seem like a disease than a separate race.

Gov. Richardson, you have definitely lost any chance of my vote shunning the best youth organization to make young boys into resposible men and citizens. There are 3 things that are important enough to me that I know the current democratic party and its leaders do not respect like I respect my Navy and all the Armed Forces, my children and grandchildrens' education over the teachers union and political correctness, and the Boy Scouts of America.

This is a dumb move by Richardson. He may get more support from the gay rights crowd, but he's losing the support of one of the America's oldest groups, one that prides itself on service to others and skills training. Maybe he will refuse the title of Commander-in-Chief because of the don't-ask-don't-tell policy.

Well done! What a bigoted organization. I don't care whether being gay is a choice or a potato, the bottom line is Richardson is saying he will protect my rights. You go boy!

It's about time that someone spoke out against this discriminating organization. Their policies are fine if they are a private organization, but they are not. They are publicly funded. They should have to stop their discrimination or lose all public funding. I’d be very surprised if anyone was ever brave enough to stand up against this organization that’s actually able to get into office.

This makes no sense. He won't represent the boy scouts because of their stance on gays. How is he going to be the Commander of our military? Would the Boy Scouts meet his criteria if they also adapted a Don't ask, don't tell policy? Very interesting.

Bravo for Mr. Richardson for standing up and taking a stance that could cost him votes.