October 1st, 2007
08:30 PM ET
11 years ago

Social conservatives threaten third party bid over Giuliani

Watch John King and Wolf Blitzer, members of the Best Political Team on TV, discuss what Christian conservative leaders may do to influence the 2008 presidential race.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The frustration of social conservatives in the Republican Party appears to have boiled over.  A group of powerful social conservatives announced recently that they may back a third party bid for the White House in 2008 rather than support GOP frontrunner Rudy Giuliani.  Watch John King's report about the threat to the GOP posed by leaders of the party's social conservative base. 

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soundoff (32 Responses)
  1. laurinda,ny

    CNN,,Why are you bombarding us with all of these stories ?

    October 1, 2007 09:27 pm at 9:27 pm |
  2. Ed,Ellenville,New York

    Rudy may lose after all his work(probably) but he'll sure be a real american hero for taking back the republican party from those theocrats! I don't think the Tancredo's (what's that in english?) are helping him though. He better watch his diet,cheesesteaks might knock him off before he finishes the job.

    October 1, 2007 09:50 pm at 9:50 pm |
  3. John Starnes Tampa Florida

    Maybe they will change their minds if he tells a few gay jokes then has Judith call him a few more times when the cameras are rolling? Maybe mention 9-11 JUST A LITTLE MORE OFTEN?

    October 1, 2007 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  4. h.j. - des moines, ia.

    Rudy saying he is open to abortion rights is the same as Hillary saying she'd go to war. These candidates are trying to reach out by being moderate.

    October 1, 2007 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm |
  5. Karen, Orlando, Fl.

    The best thing that could happen to the Republican party would be for the social conservatives to go start their own party and allow the moderates to reclaim their party. Maybe the Republican's can become the party they once were- the party of fiscal conservatives.

    October 1, 2007 10:21 pm at 10:21 pm |
  6. Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA

    Rudy represents a more centrist and moderate party than the radical religious right which has dominated for years, and that's not a bad thing. Hillary might benefit by being more centrist like Bubba's Democratic Leadership Council, but she won't. You run a campaign on the flanks, but win and govern from the center.

    October 1, 2007 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm |
  7. Christian, Tampa FL

    Fine by me. With conservatives fractured, Giuliani would have no chance of winning. I hope he wins the nomination, because he would guarantee a democratic victory in '08.

    October 1, 2007 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm |
  8. Anonymous, Denver, CO

    I wonder if those religous right wingnuts have any inkling of just how sick and tired most of the country is of their holier-than-thou schtick. Living in Colorado, I've personally had my fill of the hypocrisy and hate filled garbage spewed by James Dobson and his ilk, all in the name of Christianity. So, onward Christian soldiers – send in a third party candidate, split the conservative vote and ensure that a Democrat is elected to the White House in 2008.

    October 1, 2007 11:25 pm at 11:25 pm |
  9. Lee, Mays Landing NJ

    The social conservatives are making a lot of noise but in the end they will have no place to go and will support Guiliani, particlarly of Hillary Clinton is the democratic nominee, since so many of them have been listening to St. Rush, of Limbaugh, and believe that Hillary is the devil incarnate.

    The social conservatives have a point though, they are just being used by the republicans, Even people like the Bush's never believed in all that poppycock, like creationism. But pander to them they will, mostly in words and gestures before an election.

    October 1, 2007 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm |
  10. Irene, Clearwater, FL

    Fine by me.

    We need a viable third party anyway.(not that I think anyone the Religious Right puts up would be viable in any way and would probably assure a Democratic win)

    October 1, 2007 11:38 pm at 11:38 pm |
  11. Steve

    Re: Giuliani's dance with the abortion card:
    "CNN,,Why are you bombarding us with all of these stories ?"

    Um...let's see; because...I know! This guy's running for president, and the rulers of your party, the religious extremist right, has made abortion the NUMBER ONE ISSUE for the last 25 years?

    Huh, Laurinda? Think that's it? Or is abortion *not*, in your opinion, important enough to talk about?

    Please settle these and any other burning issues for this forum, and thank you.

    October 2, 2007 05:11 am at 5:11 am |
  12. Chuck Ladouceur Trenton Ontario Canada

    Here is a thought for a third party leader, RUSH LIMBAUGH the pill pusher, racist , bigot,self-centered, closet gay republican communist, white supremacist. YES WE IN CANADA ARE PROUD YOU ALL HAVE THIS NUTT BAR IN YOUR COUNTRY.

    October 2, 2007 06:00 am at 6:00 am |
  13. AJ; Montpelier, VT

    Why dont we start calling these people what they really are, Religious Extremists. Using the term Social Conservatives is misleading. It's one thing to be conservative, it's another to actively go out and forster hate against others. These people are not much better than the Taliban. I sat go Rudy go!! THe sooner the Republican party is free of these awful people the better!

    October 2, 2007 07:48 am at 7:48 am |
  14. Dan (Baltimore, MD)

    As a Rudy supporter, I welcome the Christian Coalition to exit stage right. They are divisive and arrogant and turn people off from voting for the GOP. If the Republican Party was socially liberal and economically conservative then they would become the party of individual rights including property and the pursuit of happiness. As a former Libertarian who just registered Republican to support Rudy, I can say for sure that the Republican Party will add by subtraction. Seeing the CC lose their grip was the only way I would let that happen.

    October 2, 2007 07:55 am at 7:55 am |
  15. Steve, NY

    Why threaten a third party bid when the real conservative candidate is right in front of their nose? The base needs to start rallying around Mike Huckabee. With the support, he can win the nomination and the general election.

    October 2, 2007 08:12 am at 8:12 am |
  16. Bill, Alabama

    The social conservative, Bible thumping, religious right is so far out of mainstream America that they cannot find anyone to support in the large number of "would be president" Republicans running right now. These people live right off the edge of reality.

    They are going to guarantee that there will be a Democrat in the white house which makes me very happy.

    October 2, 2007 08:19 am at 8:19 am |
  17. A. Thomas, New York, NY

    Giuliani alienates the social conservatives and the minorities, follows Bush blindly towardsd Iraq, and has demonstrated poor personal character in relating to family members (ex wives and kids), other than the two staged phoney phone calls from his current wife (or campaign manager?) in the middle of his public speech.

    If he gets nominated by the republicans and gets scrutinised closely by the american voters, he will be trashed. Giuliani is the ticket to Hillary's win to White House.

    October 2, 2007 09:16 am at 9:16 am |
  18. Rocco, Wellington,Fl

    Giuliani would be very bad for the country so anything that prevents a Giuliani Adminisration is OK by me.

    October 2, 2007 09:37 am at 9:37 am |
  19. Jo, Atlanta GA

    The religious right will NEVER vote for Rudy...

    They claim Hillary will make them vote. That will never happen either. They are no fools they know Hillary is better that Rudy. They don't want to stay home so they will field their own Nominee and see what their own party strength really numbers to in terms of votes.

    October 2, 2007 10:03 am at 10:03 am |
  20. LandoftheFree

    In light of the morons leading this years election ballots. Any third party candidate has a chance.

    October 2, 2007 10:04 am at 10:04 am |
  21. Anonymous

    WOO HOO!!!!
    Run Fundies Run!!!!

    October 2, 2007 10:04 am at 10:04 am |
  22. Mark, Shreveport, LA

    This is why after 21 years as a Republican, I'm now a Libertarian. The religious right has ruined the GOP with their "abortion is the only issue we truly care about" platform.

    October 2, 2007 10:06 am at 10:06 am |
  23. Pete, T.S. FL

    The "Religious Right" in our country is just as dangerous as the ones that we fight in the Middle East.

    There I said it! You mix religion and politics and it becomes volatile. It is quite all right to be a person of faith but it is not acceptable to impose your faith upon others........

    The pro-life right wing nuts turn a blind eye when it comes to the death of my military brothers and sisters in Iraq! Shame on you!

    Keep America safe by keeping religion out of government!

    October 2, 2007 10:46 am at 10:46 am |
  24. Mark Shrigley, Columbus, Ohio

    Hillary's unfavorable rating is at 50%, and the conservatives want to leave the party if Rudy is nominated? If they stay home or vote for a third party candidate, they are letting the woman they hate most, waltz right into the whitehouse. So be it! This is nothing but pure madness by the right wing!
    Mark Shrigley

    October 2, 2007 11:04 am at 11:04 am |
  25. Dave, Columbia, SC

    that would be stupid on their part. first of all, their candidate would not win and they would cause a Dem nominee to win, which is what I thought they would not want to happen. clueless.

    October 2, 2007 11:50 am at 11:50 am |
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