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wish I had the usual slew of anti-Democratic websites to cite that do all my thinking for me.

But I don't on this topic. Help me, someone.

Posted By James, Phoenix AZ : October 5, 2007 7:33 pm

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The help you need, fake-James, won't be found on the CNN blog. Continuing to impersonate a conservative voice (James – Phoenix) and make silly one-line statements demonstrates your inability to articulate your views and ultimately self-hatred.

We're all praying for you, friend.

Mrs Edwards may want to finally stop talking since Americans don't elect the guy candidate who fields the most whiniest wife. Also nobody wants to vote for a candidate who is too afraid to defend himself against Hilary.

Pathetic.

I wish I had the usual slew of anti-Democratic websites to cite that do all my thinking for me.

But I don't on this topic. Help me, someone.

Posted By James, Phoenix AZ : October 5, 2007 7:33 pm

Don't fret, see my posting on 10/05/07 at 02:34 it has facts, figures and a small portion of the MOST RECENT cheating history, and from reliable sources, unlike "Moronia" that posts the same boring diatribe using a biased book from an author giving an opinion as an actual reliable source.

Elizabeth Edwards is exactly right, if you continue to let republicans intimidate you, you will continue to lose. Bullies have only one tactic.
I, for one, am tired of it. The age of crooks, and "crazies" should be over.

All I have to say is that Elizabeth, in trying to express her opinions as a potential First Lady, has a right to express her opinions on the situations that arose in the 2004 election.
I am disturbed that Americans too quickly judge her and her genuine sentiments when it comes to being critical of the issues that are being dealt with America. Of course we all know her medical condition is terminal, but the fight that she has chosen to fight for America with her husband is noble and should be looked as such.

Prabhu, San Diego, CA

Yeah that's right, and in case you don't know this, Congress' approval rating is lower the GW's. And guess who controls that?? Oh yeah I forgot the Democrats.

Let's remeber that the angelic Democrats had some of the best trickery in election history in 1960. But I guess we can't bring that up becuase it has nothing to due with GW. Yes, Kennedy did a lot of great things for this nation in the short time he was in office, and was almost solely responsible for stopping what was the closest we have ever been to nuclear war. Yet the election it self is still questionable.

I a-gree with elizabeth edwards that sen. john kerry, and john edwards,concede the 2004 election to bush after what happen in florida to al gore,i wouldn't trust a bush at anything look at ther famly tree person of the year time magazine december 27, 2004 edition paths of power and look at samuel prescott bush a steel magnate who became an advisor to president hurbart hoover a great advisor agrate depression.look at prescott sheldon bush jr. a businessman and developer with strong ties to beijing he ran the u.s.china chamber of commerce so i rest my case

You know, at first it was cute. But now it's getting really annoying. Who's running for President, Elizabeth or John? I mean seriously, does she REALLY have to come out every other day with something else to say?

Elizabeth was just responding to a story Kerry had told the Time magazine. I think Elizabeth would be a great first lady and think John is the only democrat that CAN with the white house back! I hope that you all will look at his values and see he is the best option for President!!!

VOTE JOHN EDWARDS 08

I also have wondered about this and Gore too for 2000, I think their families lives were threatened if they did not step out.

Dear John and Elizabeth,

Please...please....just go away.

All the men slamming Mrs. Edwards must be really threatened by her...

John said right after the election was over that Kerry should've fought to expose the fraud that has been rumored to have occurred in Ohio ever since. Elizabeth is only saying this now because she was interviewed on Air America with the other campaign staffers. John was instead interviewed by Keith Olberman on MSNBC on the same day about the Blackwater Security scandal. So, yes, John is getting his say, but CNN won't cover hardly anything he says because they seem to favor the wife over the candidate. Scrutinize the Ticker a little more and you'll see what I mean.

As for the expectations that Edwards will lose the 2008 election if nominated, might I remind you about the Rasmussen polls? It's predicted on those that Edwards is the best choice to have a majority win in the election.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
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Members of both parties engage in fradulent voting, but it will certainly get worse once the dems issue drivers licenses to illegal immigrants. The only way to combat vote fraud is to win with such an overwhelming majority that a recount would be useless. How would a candidate do that? Try being a statesman instead of a politician, try answering questions honestly instead of repeating talking points, and – best of all – read the U.S. Constitution and promise to support it!

In 1960, it was fraudulent voting in Chicago that gave the election to Kennedy. Nixon knew it, but did not whine or cry or tie up the courts for months. Instead, he conceded for the sake of the nation. Gore, Kerry, Edwards, et al apparently don't know the meaning of statesmanship or decency – and they actually lost. (Please do not interpret this as support for subsequent things Nixon later did to embarrass and shame himself.)

To avoid close-call whining in the future, how about an election where the choice isn't merely between a socialist and a socialist-lite?

I understand her thinking and agreed with her at the time. I thought that he conceded far too quickly. But I also know that it would not have made a difference. The Rove and Bush political machine including the supreme court would have stolen the election as they did in the previous presidential election.

Typical dem...It didn't turn out the way I wanted it to, so it must not have happened. Can the media outlets get together and stop printing her words? It's always nonsense and her husband has been marginalized (as he should have) so it's not even important nonsense, like Clinton gives us.

I agree with Elizabeth Edwards. I strongly suspected at the time that Edwards was the one who got Kerry to hold for the duration that he did. I also remember thinking that he did not support the decision to concede. I know I didn't. The problem was even if the votes were counted and Kerry was ahead, would the courts really stand behind that? The courts stood behind party lines in the previous election and the Democrats took a beating for daring to try and get the votes counted. Public perception among what I normally consider to be reasonably intelligent adults re: what occurred during the Gore/Bush election fiasco is often completely off base with the actual facts. At the same time though preserving the sanctity of our country was on the line and I feel we had no choice and needed to fight no matter the reprecussions . But they didn't and now look at the state of affairs in our country.

why is it that when a liberal looses at something every other liberal will almost riot. we saw how you handled loosing the pres. election, but when the dems won the house no protests. liberals also say they are the thinkers, but any time you dont get your way you cry. i havent met one person, and i live in a liberal city, who said they voted for kerry or gore. so kerry should have conceded because he lost, and he looked real stupid while he was crying about how unfair everything is. liberals= abunch of braindead crybabies.

Read Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast. Its the book the Florida college student was holding when he was tasered for asking Kerry why he didn't fight in Ohio when it has been documented that he won there.

Provisional ballots were not counted, the Sec. of State threw them out. They also tossed out thousands of absentee ballots if the names sounded to ethnic (dem).

Palast estimates that Kerry would have won easily if the RNC didnt cheat in Ohio and New Mexico. Palast even has copies of some of Karl Rove's missing emails, which are "caging lists" used in Florida. Thousands of black voters in Democratic districts get sent a first class letter from the RNC asking to have their address varified. Anyone that doesn't respond, and any letters that come back returned, they simply challenge the votes. Your name gets pulled from the voter lists and you get handed a provisional when you show up. Then they never count your provisional.

Palast says the best solution is to vote early. Go to the early voting polls usually set up a week to two weeks in advance. If there's any irregularity, don't take a provisional, just call the voting commision or the local democratic party and figure out the problem ahead of time. If enough people do that, it will expose the problems.

Kerry was a whimp for backing out. Almost no one has reported it, but the three REPUBLICAN heads of the Ohio Voting Commision all have been convicted of election fraud. ALL THREE OF THEM!!!

They stole the election. Only through diligence and overwhelming numbers can we get our country back from these greedy cheaters. Picture it like going to war and throwing yourself at machine guns, some will fall, but enough votes will get through to swamp them.

That's why I'm supporting Barack Obama. He has the best chance of actually motivating voters. Hillary is to polarizing and there will be apathy and they can do it again.

If it's Obama, he worked in Chicago, knows all the tricks that dirty politicians played against him there already, and he knows how to fight them. He's spoken about this. He will also motivate voters like nobody else in history.

Obama 08

Wow. There are some backwards thinkers on this ticker. So what should Mrs. Edwards do? Walk 10 paces behind her husband and keep her mouth shut? Nod in agreement with everything said but never express an opinion? Believe it or now wives do have thoughts and some wives are more outspoken than their husbands. This does not make them a "shrew" or anyother nasty word. It takes a strong man to marry an intelligent woman who is a free thinker and not afraid to speak her mind. Wake up. Its 2007 and women are permitted to express their opinions.

Does he have any backbone?
i mean honestly, his wife has been on the campaign trail attacking candidates while he has taken the backseat it seems.

I was planning on voting for John Edwars but i dont want a President that cant speak his mind, and one that hides behind his wife!

Thank you Elizabeth!

I don't care much for your husband, but I like you. Kerry should have never conceded, and it almost makes you wonder if he and Bush/Cheney belong to the same secret society.

We let Bush/Cheney steal two elections with no repercussions, and now we are paying for that with an administration that believes they are above the law, because that's what we've shown them.

They are criminals, war and otherwise, and need to be impeached NOW since invading Iran (with what money and with what troops?) is something they plan on accomplishing before they leave office. This will lead to the fall of this once-great country of ours.

Bush enacted Presidential Directive 51 so that in the event of some "disaster" (no doubt created by them), the election will be canceled and they will stay in power longer than they're legally supposed to. But when did something being illegal ever stop this administration? NEVER!

Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate that has the courage to impeach. It is the only way to save ourselves, and I'm dead serious.

"Once again, a Democrat campaigning on negatives. When will they learn?"

Are you kidding? Two words – "Swift Boating". Yeah, Republicans have sure shown us the high moral ground, haven't they?

Give me a break with the far lefts "election stolen"bullcrap,,,YOu lost get over it if anything Democrats steal votes, should we remind anyone about Nix-Kennedy???You left wing losers have no grasp of reality..... period, why cant this woman just fade away and her wife John do the same

Well Mrs. Edwards, what are you going to do about it? The choice was John Kerry’s to make, right or wrong. But as usual, you and your husband have nothing positive and forward-looking to offer and this is the problem with his rapidly failing campaign. Saying everyone is wrong doesn’t make you and your husband right and showing the world that you are a shrew has done more damage than good for all concerned.

WHo's running for office Edwards or his wife? If there was ever a man without a spine it has got to be John Edwards, he lets his wife do ALL of the dirty work for him, and then he co-signs on it. I wish someone tells her to just shut up and get out of the way!

The real issue in this election should be the voting machines used to cast ballots. IT HAS been conclusively proven, in Florida for instance, that the voting machines supplied to that state, built by republican backing company, can easily be hacked and manipulated to produce votes for a particular candidate. IT IS STUFF like this that a lawsuit filed by Kerry could've brought to light. Now, we are doomed forever with these stupid machines. In fact, in NY where I live, we're still using pull lever machines dating back to Eisenhower...and guess what, they work! No chads, no push holes, no electronic gadgets to messt things up. If it's not broke, don't fix it. But, we are being fined by the federal gov't for not changing fast enough to an electronic system. Funny. It's the republican controlle executive branch that seems threatened by NY's tried and true pull lever devices. After being one of the blueist states in the nation, it will be really interesting to see how fast NY all of a sudden turns red after we're forced by the republican controlled executive branch to switch! cI can literally see Cheney with electric switches in teh white house basement changing votes as they happen.

John Kerry had no time from November 2nd to the counting of electoral votes in mid-December to prove that the election was stolen, which I personally believe what happened. He had no clear popular vote victory to support a protest of the Ohio ballots, and it is clear to me that–no matter what–Kerry would have lost. Al Gore at least had a chance in the 2000 debacle; Kerry had none. I wish it wasn't so, but we all must eventually face reality and admit that Kerry had no chance of winning, and that his decision to concede that night was the only right decision he could make.

Dear Anonymous, You said and I quote "Of course there was corruption (including a report that there were signs outside polling places saying "If you are a convicted felon, it is illegal for you to vote"–obviously not true, but meant to keep voters away." Well that's not a true statement. Arizona and Maryland permanently disenfranchise felons after the conviction of a second offense and Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, Virginia and Wyoming permanently prohibit voting rights for felons. Each state can set their own laws on felons voting. Hey Google is a wonderful thing maybe you should use it!

How Democrats Steal Elections –

Top 10 Methods of Liberal Vote Fraud

Over-Voting. In Democrat strongholds like St. Louis, Philadelphia and Detroit, some precincts had 100% of their registered voters voting, with 99% of the ballots going to Gore. Clearly, multiple voting resulted in extra tallies for Gore in the 2000 election. (New York Post, 12/09/00).

Dead Voters. This classic Democratic method of vote fraud goes all the way back to 1960 in Chicago and Dallas. The 2000 election was no exception. In Miami-Dade County, for example, some of the 144 ineligible votes (those which officials actually admitted to) were cast by dead people, including a Haitian-American who's been deceased since 1977 (Miami-Herald, 12/24/00).

Mystery Voters. These "voters" cast votes anyway but are not even registered to vote. In heavily Democratic Broward County, for example, more than 400 ballots were cast by non-registered voters. (Miami-Herald 1/09/01)

Military ballots. Many of these votes were disqualified for the most mundane and trivial reasons. At least 1,527 valid military ballots were discarded in Florida by Democratic vote counters (Drudge Report, 11/19/00).

Your hero, Gore wanted to "suppress" the military vote, as a Veteran, I find that contemptible.

Criminals. Felons are a natural Democratic voter and they're protected on voter rolls across the country. In Florida at least 445 ex-convicts – including rapists and murderers - voted illegally on November 7th. Nearly all of them were registered Democrats. (Miami-Herald 12/01/00)

Illegal aliens. These voters have long been a core liberal constituency, especially in California. In Orange County in 1996, Rep. Bob Dornan had his congressional seat stolen from him when thousands of illegal aliens voted for Loretta Sanchez (Christian Science Monitor, 9/2/97).

Vote-buying. Purchasing votes has long been a traditional scheme by Democrats, and not just with money. In the 2000 election in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, Democratic workers initiate a "smokes-for-votes" campaign in which they paid dozens of homeless men with cigarettes if they cast ballots for Al Gore (Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, 11/14/00).

Phantom Voters. These voters don't really exist, but their ballots do. In the 1996 Lousiana Senate race, GOP candidate Woody Jenkins had the election stolen from him when he discovered that 7,454 actual votes were cast but had no paper trail to authenticate them (Behind the Headlines, F.R. Duplantier, 4/27/97).

Dimpled chads. Those infamous punch-cards were a ballot bonanza for Al Gore. Democratic poll workers in Palm Beach, Dade and Broward counties tampered and manipulated thousands of ineligible ballots and counted them for Gore, even though no clear vote could be discerned. (NewsMax.com 11/27, 12/22, 11/18, 11/19/00).

Absentee ballots. Normally it's assumed that Republicans benefit from absentee ballots. But in the case of Miami's 1997 mayoral election, hundreds of absentee ballots were made for sale or sent out to non-Miami residents. Fraud was so extensive in the race that the final results were overturned in court (FL Dept. of Law Enforcement Report, 1/5/98).

Whining and crying everytime you lose, but when Voter ID reform is mentioned (even when they will provide them for FREE and take care of EVERYTHING at your HOUSE), screams of racism abound.

Lets not forget the so "progressive" thinkers, that were CAUGHT and CONVICTED slashing the tires of buses that were to be used by ELDERLY and DISABLED Republican voters in the last two elections.

Hey, anyone got any menthol cigs, we need to reinforce the base.

Vote for me and I will provide you ALL health insurance, cradle to grave tuition, Baby bonds, whatever your Nanny can do for you.

This woman's comments are just hurting her husband's very small chance at a nomination.

What has Republicans done for this country? Unwinnable war in Iraq, rampant fear and HUGE deficits, your grandchildren will still be paying for. Get a grip man.

Prabhu,

Ok – let's both be pragmatic. You cite how our country is facing HUGE deficits that our grandchildren will be paying for.

So what's the solution? Elect Hillary who wants to Universal Healthcare, Baby Bonds, Amnesty for Illegal Aliens and SPRINT down the path to socialism?

I agree President Bush has failed in holding true to conservative principles of fiscal responsibility. The majority of this deficit can be attributed to the War in Iraq/Afghanistan. Bringing an end to this conflict will provide us the opportunity to lower deficits without passing the cost onto our kids.

But creating new spending programs to absorb the War costs will only continue us staying and deepening the deficit.

The choice is ours – socialism or a return to traditional fiscal conservatism.

Exit polling in both Florida and Ohio in the 2004 election was skewed by greater than 5%. Then norm for deviation is only 1.5% in the other 48 states. There were no paper trail ballots in Ohio (as there are none on any electronic voting machines). The reason why Kerry did not contest it is because he could not prove the obvious. That the voting machines in Ohio and Florida were programmed essentially to move 2.5% of the votes for democrats and move them to the republican tally. I think this would be a simple enough and undetectable programming trick. As the law does not allow monitors to inspect the programming code of these "electronic polling" devices.

thanking your very very much

Elizabeth, I'm sure your kids need your attention not politics. Shut up and quit embarrassing your husband.

Yes, Mrs. Edwards, the same way Richard Nixon should have contested 1960 for that dubious vote count as well. Sour grapes is very unbecoming.

HEY...EDWARDS IS NOT WEARING HIS FLAG PIN!!!! WHERE IS THAT ASTUTE REPORTER, GET HIM ON THE PHONE...THIS IS BIG NEWS!

Jeff in Syracuse: You may be sick of what you perceive to be democrat conspiracies but the majority of the country is even more sick of the mistakes and corruption in the Republican Party of which has directly caused thousands of deaths. If you can say that Bush has done a better job with this country than Kerry or anyother democrat could have, you are seriously deluded. This administration has either ignored the constitution or defied laws they were sworn to uphold. This president uses his "faith" as a front to cover his lies and betrayals and plays on peoples fears. Funny how both before and during the 2004 election we had a terror level risk warning (orange, red, blue..)which of course was always high. Once he was sworn in that alert system magically disappeared. It is people like you I feel most sorry for. You believed all the lies and terror rhetoric and reelected this moron to office. It is a fact that we have both a President and Vice President making a personal profit from this war. It is a fact they both heavily invested in defense firms prior to the war and remain invested. What is the initiative to stop when your bank account grows by the millions each week? I personally believe ALL politicians are liars and thieves but this administration takes the cake er should I say oil??

Who exactly is running for the nomination here? Is there something the Edwards would like to tell us?

John Kerry chose not to contest the vote because he saw how the first recount hurt the country. It didn't change anything and it delayed the workings of govt. He was far too classy a man to drag the country through that all over again. Of course there was corruption (including a report that there were signs outside polling places saying "If you are a convicted felon, it is illegal for you to vote"–obviously not true, but meant to keep voters away) but you can only do so much to fight it. He loved his country too much to put it through the ringer.

Anybody making comments criticizing John for having Elizabeth speak for them are puppets of the media and truly ignorant. John could speak for hours and the media won't report a thing. Elizabeth says one thing and it's instantly a column. And you all fall for it like the sheeple that you are. Does the media have to tell you how to get dressed in the morning too?

Who is running for Presdident, Mrs. Edwards or her husband? She is coming across as very Hillary like. I could care less what she thinks about anything(same opinion of Hillary).

I agree, the people should have fought for answers when there were clear irregularities! But since no one fought, I guess we got what we deserved? The last two presidential elections have been subject to much question and debate! I think she clearly made an intelligent observation.

Hi James from Phoenix. You are living in a dream world. Republicans will lose the WH, Senate and House hands down. Be pragmatic and realist. What has Republicans done for this country? Unwinnable war in Iraq, rampant fear and HUGE deficits, your grandchildren will still be paying for. Get a grip man.

John Kerry took the easy way out by conceding so quickly and not challenging the voting irregularities that were so obvious! First, he bailed because he always had his back job still waiting – Senator. Second, while it is questionable whether a lawsuit would have changed the election results, it still would have exposed the irregularities, punished those responsible for it, and put in place measures to prevent it from happening again by court order. In fact, we'll always have this uncertainty over the voting system as we use corrupt voting machines built by republican companies. That Kerry took the easy way out on this one makes me not happy that I voted for him [really had no choice, look who was running against him!]

I have to say that Mrs. Edwards should have complained about this when she had a chance to say this now is just noise for her husband to deal with.

I am not saying that there was no fraud in Ohio, but it's best to prove fraud and request additional investigations, not whine about it as an "I coulda been a first lady!"

Telling it like I see it,
Wynter

After trashing all current presidential candidates, mommy Liz now trashes the past candidates. What a loser.

"The popular vote went to Gore...Bush's buiddies in the Supreme Court gave him the election..."

Wil the Dem conspiracy crybabies ever quit??? We are sick and tired of you and your BS.

Face facts...if Gore would have carried his home state, he would have won the election. He didn't and deserved to lose.

Kerry's loss gave him extra time to practice his windsurfing skills.

The conspiracy stuff is hurting the country. Denying somthing or creating a made-up alternative just because you do not like what really is the case is very said (i.e, delusional)–reality is reality. The parnoid left-wing attitudes are bizarre and undermining everything this country stand for. Grow up.

I should write when I am eating luch – I meant to say prove not proof.

Maybe Elizabeth Edwards forgets that in the popular vote, the Kerry-Edwards ticket was more than 3 MILLION votes behind Pres. Bush. I'd say that's a pretty convincing win, no matter how you slice it. It's only because of the outdated Electoral College system that the race was even close. Being from Ohio, I find it offensive to deride the whole state because her husband lost. If you want a true representation of how the country felt, look at the popular vote.
The Electoral College skews the election with a few big states - win those and you're in. It doesn't, in my mind, represent the true picture of America.
Kerry-Edwards lost. Get over it!!

OK Kate from Aurora

I'll bite, who is going to win this year? You think it has been decided. . . for who? I am guessing it's going to be some evil plot by the GOP, but I'm listening.

PS- Just a reminder in FLA, the Supreme Court decided that you cannot pick and choose which votes to recount. It was determined if you picked and chose which vote to count, you would be valuing those votes more than every other. So, the Supreme Court said, recount all or none. Dems decided not to recount all. Absolutely fair! Anyone who disagrees is a bitter Team loving Dem!

I have got to agree with Mrs. Edwards. Kerry should have held off and we wouldn't be in this terrible mess we are in now with Bush and the Republican administration.

Another 'Elizabethism'. Who cares what this woman rants about all the time anyways? With numbered days, why is she flooding the news with her banal opinions instead of cherishing every minute with her family in private?

Vegas should be putting out a line on what states the GOP are going to suppress the minority vote from in 2008.

Was Edwards expecting Kerry to fight?

Gore's call to concede in 2000, quickly followed by his, "oh no I don't" call, was classic. Historical!!

John Edwards trotting out his wife to make attacks for him again.

Your wife isn't the one running for President Johnny, you are.

Conceding the election in Boston the day after polls closed, Kerry said, "The outcome should be decided by voters, not a protracted legal process."
Obviously, these are the words of a Democrat, not a Republican.

One party doesn't think it's right to undermine the right of the people to decide who holds office.

The other party routinely uses whatever tricks are necessary–everything from butterfly ballots to voter scrub lists–to eliminate votes from demographics that don't support them.

It wouldn't have made a difference. Look at the 2000 election. The popular vote went to Gore but Bush's buddies on the Supreme Court pushed him through despite what the majority of Americans wanted. If Kerry had attempted to put up a fight, the exact same outcome would have taken place. Bush was going to win the second election no matter what. I think this election has been chosen as well. The 2000 election taught me that it really doesn't matter what the American people want or vote for it is what the lobbyists and corporations want. I admire Ms. Edwards for her honesty but she really should let these words come from her husband. Afterall he is the one promising change, right?

I'm sure that the American people are getting tired of hearing the losing side of the presidential elections whine every four years.

Bringing his past failures to light will not help Edwards win the nomination, let alone the general election.

Once again, a Democrat campaigning on negatives. When will they learn?

Will this woman just never shut up??

I guess since you've blasted every other candidate in THIS election you might as well go after all the other democrats in previous campaigns too, Elizabeth??

I wonder if she realizes... if her husband, by some miracle, received the nomination – the landslide victory for Republicans would have John Edwards conceding his loss only hours after the polls have closed?

For once Mrs. Edwards had something to say. Kerry never should have conceded. The truth about the trickery the Republicans used would have come out. We would have been much better off with the Democrats.

I voted in Ohio, and I can tell you there was suspicion. Some of the machines changed your vote after you made it, I had to file a complaint and they put me on a different machine, but I don't know that they stopped sending people to the defective one or how many had already voted for the wrong person because they didn't pay attention to their screen.

She really should think about stepping back and letting her husband do his own talking.