this is amazing. thank god for barack obama.

If Obama steals their faith,who's going to pay Dobson's bills? Maybe the right has found their savior.This time it's going to be hard to deny he's black.

Bravo Obama - don't let those right wing fascists claim that they are the only ones who own the "moral" truth.

I'm an atheist, but I get your message: it is one of unity, and you have my vote!

First Dem to really call on the GOP to stop hijacking the "values" discussion. That's a MAN for you! No wimp is he.

Obama is a very special man…I pray that you will be able to stay true to who you are also

I think Obama will be a successful evangelical leader than political leader because he likes to talk. He used racial support, youngster's support and now he is using Christians for his campaign. This guy has no confidence with his political view.

Senator Obama is a great leader with the kind of progressive agenda that will help move this nation forward on issues such as poverty and the war.

Rev. Chuck Currie
http://www.chuckcurrie.com

"Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse."

Democratics and Republicans have compromised on GOD's standard of morality and is responsible for the moral decay of this nation. Furthermore, many churches throughout this nation have compromised on the written Word of God to embrace secular teachings as they lead many astray.

I would strongly encourage ALL those who profess their faith in Jesus to consider carefully the following article. We serve a loving God, but also a God of righteous judgment. And, neither person nor politician alive is exempt from being held accountable to that day of judgment when they stand before their maker.

http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?AuthorID=44353&id=28434

It is TIME to elect a true person of FAITH to the office of presidency. That is why I’m voting for Pete Grasso.

http://www.GrassoForPresident.com

A politician who is trying to figure out how to make America stronger and doesn't mention killing all of our enemies to do it, how does he ever expect to get the southern vote?

Neither Obama nor the GOP is correct in pushing faith-based agendas in government. Both parties should avoid these agendas because they violate the first amendment clause "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." We need someone for president who can respect freedom of religion and the separation of church and state, such as presidential candidate Ron Paul.

It is rare to see a politician who is more than just an "in-name-only" Christian. Obama seems to really understand what following Christ is all about. Having a man who seeks to implement the genuine ways of Christ, which are found in most other religions as well, would do much for our country.

Kudos to Obama for standing for God and country with more sincerity than is usually found in politicians.

Everybody's right, everybody's wrong. Is there any difference? I'd rather have one person stand for what they believe than a country where nobody's wrong.

Heck, to hear a democrat invoking divine faith just like their archenemy the right-wing Christian, I was about ready to watch God strike a lightning bolt from the heavens and take him just to bask in the uniqueness and irony.

Many churches across this country have been sending missions, food, clothing, etc. to countires and discussing/educating and helping AIDs victims across the world. To imply that finally someone like TD Jakes is talking about these social issues is complete ignorance.

Obama just isn't in touch with the rest of the world and only wants to see what fits the picture he is selling.

For 10 plus years our church has worked, discussed and donated time and money to Africa and the AIDS crisis. Wake up Obama.

BARF! Every had a vacuum cleaner salesman try to sell you his product by selling you his faith too?

Its the Dem's national plan for all their godless candidates to seduce you with "faith" and then rape you later.

Get real Dems! We evangelicals will be nice to ya, but we ain't buyin' your old over priced Hoover!

"During the nearly two hour service that featured a rock band and hip-hop dancers,"
You call that chruch????

That was a hip-hop concert.

I hope he mentioned his stance on gay marriage in his talk - at least be consistent!

Obama freely speaks of God and religion on the campaign trail BUT he would not allow the free speech of God and religion by you or I in the public buildings.

You can't have it both ways.

Then again does anyone take this Muslim's view of Christianity seriously?

Again you can't have it both ways.

The democrats and religion - what a comedy act. They won't allow bibles in schools, but they allow them in prisons.

Seems Obama and the democrats have their priorities wrong.

Any evangelical who's not asleep can tell the Obama doesn't know what he's talking about when he speaks of creating a Kingdom right here on earth. Nice religious language, but it doesn't mean anything remotely like what the Bible teaches.

Democrats can talk religion out of one side of their mouths and abortion and "free" sex out of the other.

And they are so afraid of the "M-word" marriage. More hypocrisy from the leftists socialists.

More smoke, mirrors and lies from Obama.

An intelligent political move by Obama. But I think any intelligent person can see it as just that, a political move. I highly doubt that any candidate from any party is as religious as they say they are.

Pandering, pandering, pandering. All of a sudden liberals find God? Are they going to define specifically what they mean (yeah, right - these are politicians). Are you talking about biblical God/Jesus (unlikely), God as a euphemism for Allah (possible), or some relativistic version of God (most likely). Yeah, Michael Vick found Jesus AFTER getting busted on dog-fighting charges. Liberals similarly find God when they're lacking in polls and their backs are up against the wall. Political B.S., nothing more, nothing less.

Amen Obama! This is exactly what America needs right now, faith and reason. It would be a mistake for anyone else to be nominated for democratic candidate.

Another desperate Democrat infected with a God complex. Bring the Kingdom, Mr. Obama? Jesus will bring the kingdom. Not you.

When all else fails, try to act like a fundementalist. Who knows, it might work for him - they are gullible.

Kyu,

Or it is a political view that unifies all of these groups and appeals to them.

I still have not decided who to support, but I like Obama more and more every day.

Gee.

Who's gonna break the news to crackpots like Pat Robertson and Jim Dobson that they don't have a lock on religion?

Maybe they'll have to *gasp* find legitimate jobs.

What ever happened to the division between church and state? Why is he campaigning at a church? God forbid a Republican candidate would do this, CNN and the radical left would be all over them.

Aren't there any Christians out there concerned about his comment "I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on earth."? Aren't the other faiths concerned about his wanting prayer so that he 'can be an instrument of God'? These statements seem to be incongruent with each other and who he has claimed to be. I guess it depends on who is in the crowd.

I hope that the Kingdom that Obama is confident in creating here on Earth is inclusive of other faiths. Frankly I've seen much inclusiveness or tolerance from any faith. This should be a concern to everyone. Of course if he just talks this way in church, he's just saying what they wanted to hear, and if that's the case, he'll tell anyone anything.

Sure sounds like Islam to me. Do we really want to have a president with those leanings. "Create a Kingdom here on Earth" "Instrument of God" where have you heard those lines before? Let's not hear more of the danger of the religious right.

Sounds like the later rain movement..
by the way, td jakes is a oneness pentecostal. denies the clear orthadox teaching of the trinity.
and that is NOT orthodox Christianity, neither is prideful setting up the kingdom here on earth.

Really, Obama, if you are "confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth" you might want to talk about your faith more often than just "in church". This all makes me wonder; who's Kingdom are you talking about creating; God's or yours?

Compared to the right-wing tyranny we've let lead us these last eight years, Barack Obama is a godsend. For those of us that have been asking for a savior in our prayers, the Lord above has sent an answer. The Shrub's cowboy-style handling of Iraq has divided us. Would the Lord Jesus Christ want us to be pitted against each other like we are now? NO! Christ encouraged harmony, and Obama encourages harmony.

Some of you right-wingers are free to follow your beloved liar into oblivion. Face it, the truth is beyond your little minds. You have been decieved beyond reason. Those of us favoring the left-wing values are far more than willing to take the truth Obama promises and move on, not live in the past.

We now have a generation rising up that's only known more conservative philosophies for most of their adult lives. They think liberal policies deserve a chance- not knowing their history well enough to understand those policies already are proven failures from their run that began in the 1930s and ran thru the 70s. Unfortunately, I foresee another liberal run for maybe the next 12 to 20 years- until these new policies again fail and this generation realizes that government can't fix the human heart.

I meant to say that I've NOT seen much inclusiveness or tolerance from any faith.

So all of you Obama supporters are not the least bit worried that he wants to create "Kingdom on Earth?"

I guarantee that if any right wing opponent made those remarks that would be lambasted. What ever happened to separation of Church and STATE??

Obama is an empty suit and, while I have no doubt he's intelligent, empty headed when it comes to politics and the world and policy. His naivete is as dangerous as Hillary's whacked out sense of self importance and 'can do no wrong'.
The way he chose to frame this 'we didn't want to talk about values and they were being intolerant' is nothing more than a LIE to further hsi agenda. First of all, the dems haven't embraced faith they have outright ATTACKED IT! And to claim the R's were intolerant and somehow the dems/liberals aren't is silly and completely fallacious.

But, by all means, continue to spout the 'neocon' idiocy! It just shows the left for what they really are, full of hate, intolerance and willing to stifle the speech of anyone who disagree's with them.

Sounds a lot like the muslin extremist that are killing our brave men & women in terrorist attacks. They also believe that they are "destined to create their style of Kingdom on Earth". You people are soo stupid…obama seeks to destroy capitalism and replace it with socialism, or worse, islam.

I would argue that he does have confidence in his political position as a man who wants to implement change so we are no longer eating from the scraps of corporate America. Gigantic corporations have a stranglehold on American citizens, and while you may roll your eyes at how ridiculous it sounds, you don't have true freedom because of this. Obama wants to limit their influence on us and help Americans get back to owning their lives. I support his policies, as a Christian, and as a human being. We are forgetting about others and becoming a "me" society — what is best for "me". Barack wants to unite us, his message is one of hope and peace.

What Obama and the other democrats need to understand is that people of faith (who follow Jesus as their Savior and Lord) will not vote for a candidate (or party) that believes in the killing of unborn babies.

This is a real quandary this 2008 election because those of us that believe in the sanctity of life will not vote for a candidate who approves of abortion, NO MATTER WHAT PARTY THEY ARE.

The democrats have other issues that believers do not approve of and the democratic candidates can't hide from their platform, no matter who the candidate is (ie; gay marriage, euthanasia, etc.).

all these politicians republican or democrat claim to know God in one way or another. If they really knew thier bible at all they would follow Jesus example and be no part of this corrupt political system at all. So they are all liars anyway.

Too bad Christianity isn't about creating a kingdom of God on earth, by the works of man.

Swing and a miss, Obama.

Obama is nothing compared to Ron Paul!

"I don't talk about it all the time, but when I'm in church I talk about it."And when one's selling used cars one talks about used cars, like a good used car salesman.

I find it telling that an atheist like Lioness is comfortable with Obama's statements because she knows it is only political rhetoric.
I recall how it scared the living hell out of liberals during Bush's first campaign when he spoke about his faith in God. I thought it funny then that the fear came from the fact that he actually meant what he was saying.
I find it tragic now that so many will find comfort in the fact that Obama is only campaigning and doesn't actually believe what he is feeding these crowds.
God help us.

Just what does Mr. Obama mean by the statement, "I am confident we can create a Kingdom here on earth"? Is he talking about the Kingdom of Barack? Jesus will return one day and establish His kingdom on earth. We don't need a politician with delusions of grandeur. Mr. Obama can talk the talk alright, as can most politicians, but until I see the fruits of the Spirit in him, there's not a chance in, well, you know, that I will be voting for him.

The issue isn't just about faith folks. He's a 1 term Senator, former state legislator with very little governmental experience. He's never been responsible for a state budget, let alone the national one. He has little to no experience in foreign policy matters. And while it's nice to hear someone talk about "dreams" and "hope", what we really need is actual policy points on how he is going to run the country. Democrat, Republican or Independent…all need some concrete experience in governing before taking the national state.

Ask yourself after you truly research Mr. Obama whether you would be willing to turn your own house over to his governing. Would you trust him with your checkbook? To Educate your kids? To plan your retirement? To protect your family? Please realize that popularism is a terrible way to run a nation.

Democracy wasn't ever about who's the nicest guy (or gal) but about who's best suited for the job of running the day to day, behind the scenes matters that keep our country a prosperous, safe and most importantly FREE nation.

I'm glad this is not one of the Republican canidates speaking or he would be excoriated by the same crowd that is now praising Obama.

HEY OBAMA…
This is GOD — You are a muslim phoney!!!

I an sure this will be posted on CNN.
The clinon news network.

Obabma was raised a mooslim.
I am sure I want to follow after the teaching of the mooslims.
Who is obama anyway?
A leftist more left then hillary.
Yes morons of America vote for obama and see the re;ligion of peace expand into your neighborhood with local beheadings of Chritians.

Create a "Kingdom right here on Earth." Sounds like the same thing that crazy Iranian is saying. Pretty scary to me.

Lee from Ann Arbor,…..just a question, so you must have a houseful of adopted, otherwise unwanted babies, correct?

I don't doubt that Obama is sincere, but I seriously doubt that he has the
experience, the wisdom and the stature to lead the USA. Let's look at him again in 4 to 8 years.

Good Grief…can you imagine if one of the republicans candidates did this?? Every time a republican talks about religion, they are chastised for being too churchy…now Obama can and people praise him. What a double standard.

You left wing fascists want a Utopia without the God of the Bible.

It won't ever happen. Mark it down.

I have one question for Obama.

You preach unity but practice eugenics "abortion" and how can you be open minded with abortion? Souls are waiting to be born and you think it is okay for woman to decide terminating life while on earth.

I understand you are selling messages to get elected but keep faith out of politics please because you do not walk the talk.

You MUST be kidding. The fact that people out there can visualize this chameleon as "moral" or possessing Bibilical values clearly tells me just how Biblically illiterate America truly is. Hello?? Have you bothered to investigate what this man actually stands for? The church he attends in Chicago is clearly racist, his views on the sanctity of life are reprehensible, and his overall social worldview is about as anti-Christian and anti-Bibilical as one can get. America, wake up! If you want to vote for this charlatan, than do so, but for crying out loud don't do it because he's "an instrument of God". He's an instrument all right, but he serves another supernatural being. I'll give you a clue - it doesn't start with a "G". Don't be a fool.

Obama is the MAN! He has already whooped the bible thumping Republicans and showed them who's boss. If we are going to have peace with the Islamic World, we need Obama (who is a Muslim himself), to prove that the US is not a warmongering nation as Bush, Cheney and Halliburton would have everyone believe. Obama will make peace with Muslims and hasten the advent of Shari'a Law in this country. Allah be praised! By so doing, we can and will avoid war with Iran, a nation that has never done us harm, other than what we deserve.

If George Bush said this you dems would be howling. The stench of your hypocracy is thick.

How come democrats, especially Blacks can go to a church and speak politically and not be criticized like republicans are? Likewise why doesn't anyone ever talk about how political actions like this are supposed to be justifiable cause for revoking a church's tax exempt status?

I have always suspected that the followers of the Left believe in some deluded way that if they just try hard enough and make enough rules that they can indeed create heaven on Earth. That is obviously why we have radical environmentalists who seem to worship the Earth instead of God and why the Left seems so determined to rid our lives of any risks at all. This is a very sad thing to read. There are many fools in our midsts, especially in the political arena. I wish that the party that preaches to the rest of us about tolerance, free speech and love really practiced it with those of us who are not part of their group.

Barack Obama isn't half the man Dennis Kucinich is. Simple. Watch videos and have an open mind and you'll see. You don't need me to tell you. Dennis' honesty, integrity, courage, and intelligence are self-evident.

Unfortunately Mr. Obama is not being at all Biblical. Which of course makes what he has said blasphemy or at least very sinful. Perhaps the good candidate should either brush up on the Bible as many candidates claim to do or steer clear of subjects like God, Jesus and what the Hell kind of paradise he is discussing. Most often it looks like a Socialist Paradise which is another name for "gulag".

This proves that Obama is the Messiah! Go Barack!!

Now I know he is evil.

To bad this all just a political show by Obama. A man with his smarts could do a lot of good. But most politicians, Dem and Rep are panderers, and he is just another in the long line of panderers in politics.

May God truly bless Obama and use him. But how can he stand for abortion, which is murder? God's kingdom doesn't include that.

Great. Another politician who wants to be an "instrument of God" and bring the "Kingdom to Earth." Isn't the President we have in office now bad enough? I don't want Christian ideals shoved down my throat, even if it is for supposedly "liberal" ends. President Bush uses God to advance a neoconservative agenda abroad that sacrifices our security and the lives of young men in uniform. He uses God to advance a conservative agenda at home that demeans those who don't fit into a conservative Christian morality. I fail to see how Barack Obama's "God" is any different. Instead, President Obama will do his part to use religion to eviscerate individualism and free will and have us all "voluntarily" giving to charity (read: taxes that fund socialist programs) to help the "less fortunate." What has happened to free thinking in America?

hmm it seems obama wants to do exactly what the popes were trying to do in the dark ages,
bringing the kingdom of God to the earth,,
unfortunately Jesus said his kingdom was not of this world
which leaves us one alternative as to whose kingdom obama wants to build here,
well sooner or later his view will succeed, even if he doesn"t

Is is just me, or is it kind of frightening to hear that Barack Obama wants to be an "instrument of God" to bring about a "kingdom here on earth" as President? What happened to the separation of Church and State? This sounds like a line hijacked out of one of President Ahmadinejad's speechs. Hillary, while just a religious, is much less polarizing, thank the Lord.

Obama surrounds himself with some of the clothing of religion, but his claim about creating a Kingdom on earth have no connection with Christianity. He demonstrates his ignorance.

What a phony. You cannot walk into a Christian church and proclaim that the Kingdom is at hand while supporting the murder of unborn children. Christian democrat is an oxymoron.

Noone gets it. Left, right. It doesn't matter. This is divide and conquer being played out by BOTH sides. They divide us all on the issues, acting as if they are "the party that cares about YOU".And then they take turns sticking it to all of US. Until everyone wakes up, and starts questioning both sides on a LOT of issues, we'll be stuck in the same cycle. I won't lie. I lean to the right. But, I believe it's "Choose your poison". Right now, I think BOTH parties seem to be catering to their fringes, and that just means most of us "average" folks are going to get pushed aside by either party. The two party system sucks if you ask me. We need a viable 3rd party candidate. With the internet, maybe that will be a reality in the near future……ya never know.

Can you imagine if a conservative said this?

This guy is even more gung ho than President Bush

Lee from Ann Arbor…….just wondering about your position on the death penalty, and are you a supporter of the Iraq invasion? I like to know if you' sanctity of life ' types are sincere or do you pick and choose what life to be sanctimonious about?

My baloney meter just red-lined. When is this man going to reveal who he really is?

When a "conservative christian" church distributes voting record pamphlets to their congregations they are threatened with loss of their tax exempt status.
When a "liberal church" turns their pulpits over to national candidates, it gets a yawn.

Hopefully Barak's "Kingdom on this Earth" won't allow such unbeliveably hypocritical double standards.

Of course based on Barak Hussain Obama's childhood, it wouldn't surprise me if the banner over Baraks "Kingdom on this Earth" reads "Allah Ak-bar"

I thought the Anti-Christ was the one that was supposed to create the Kingdom on Earth

The hallmark of the Left is how intolerant they have become. The venom and hate for people of faith from these people is truly spooky. It reenforces the old saying "Conservatives disagree with Liberals, Liberals hate Conservatives"

Typical Democratic Party hypocrisy; let a Republican Party candidate speak at a church and they’ll out screaming “separation of church and state.”

(John 18:36 KJV) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

(1 John 2:15-16 KJV) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. {16} For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Liberals are glad to hear Obama use religious language because they know that his approach isn't going to be incompatible with secular humanism - unlike conservatives who seem to come from a much more dogmatic, judgmental worldview when they invoke religion.

This guy is a snake oil salesman and a cartoon character.

Barak is the devil incarate. You people are clueless.

Interesting that u never hear/see quoted Obama mention the name of Jesus, the center of Christianity.

Praise be to Allah; Right Osama uh. I mean Obama?? Please save me from this type of tripe from these candidates…

Yet 1 in 4 pregnanacies in America end in abortion? What faith? What values?

So Senator Obama aspires to be God's instrument creating the Kingdom here on Earth? So is he claiming to be a politician or the Messiah? If President Bush had ever claimed to be God's instrument creating the Kingdom on Earth, the leftists now praising Obama's comments would be howling to the rafters about a theocracy and delusions of grandeur. But then again, it would be silly to expect leftists to make sense.

If Obama can create a kingdom on earth, then who's going to be the king?

This is AMAZING !! If a white (or black) Republican held a rally — AKA:hat-passing fundraiser, the Liberals in the media would be having a fit.
The ONLY white politician that ever pretended to be black was Gore & Clinton.
Gore jumped up and down in a black church and made a total ass of himself, yet I had only seen ONE clip of his stupid pandering — and it was on Fox News.
ABC, NBC, CBS, et al: Half of the news all of the time.

since when are socialists religious?

this is hilarious.

I like Obama - I really do - as a Republican - I can see how stereotyping anyone based on race, creed, color…sexual orientation (and now political affiliation) can be a very dangerous thing to do. Not all of us are right wing (Christian minority) - as much as the Democrats are not all left wing (and socialists) - the true majority of this country is moderate…right now only one candidate speaks to that - social conservative….fiscal moderate - thats Giuliani….if the Republicans decide to run any of the other candidates (and Obama is the Dems candidate) - then he will get my vote…I will insist that he doesn't pander to the unions anymore…and drop this whole universal healthcare deal….and not take race relation advice from Sharpton or Jesse Jackson - but he seems like a sharp enough guy to work on these shortcomings - but….I truly believe Rudy will be elected in 2008….and I don't have to "change" him

Obama is going to be an incredible President and he makes me proud to be an American.

Obama is speaking from his heart… Who are you people to judge him. Only GOD can judge. (True Christians are not so judgmental) Jesus was for tolerance, Love,grace, and mercy. Not WAR, profit, and everything else immoral about this administration. Being a conservative doesn't make you a republican, and being a republican doesn't make you a Christian. PEACE BE Still

this is disgusting. i don't know any christians who vote for
pro-abortion
pro-gay
pro-death to democratic reformers in iraq
candidates.

May God Almighty use Barak Hussien Osamas' righteous hand to eradicate all vestiges of personal freedom and deliver unto us the socialist yoke that is the kingdom of liberal heaven. So it has been written, so it shall be.

TD Jakes is antitrinitarian, clearly not evangelical; Warren is espousing Eastern mysticism–neither is orthodox.
A "kingdom on earth"? This sounds more like what the ANTI-CHRIST would say. Obama is outside the pale of orthodoxy. "Evangelical" is meaningless and has been for years. Just more mumbo-jumbo from black theology.

Yeah, I believe in God, and killing unborn babies too!

Barack Obama is the political manifestation of the Spiritual Movement happening all over the globe and right here in America. God bless. God speed.

To be in Washington DC and favor a socialist democrat wow how unique Lioness. DC is an example of why a 2 party system is better than the 1 party system that runs DC with its horrible schools and violent streets. But then your probably in a gated community…That does make it easier to praise a Democrat from a safe place…

So Obama wants to position himself as the antichrist? Go for it. That is the lie Satan himself will use to bring the gullible saps of this world into the final apocalypse.

Even if you liberals memorize the Bible cover to cover you won't understand a single verse in it.

I find it hilarious that certain people like a theocratic Christian as long as they tow the proper political line. Don't be fooled people by a slick religious line. This is the problem with the Repubs and now they are ruled by the religious right.

larry craig is the face of the gop. Obama rocks!!!!!

He's into killing unborn babies. He wants to be an instrument of God. Anybody see the hipocracy?

Christian? The Ten Commands clearly state that one shall not steal, yet Obama has no problem with the government taking my money through force and spending it on whatever "feel good" projects he and his communist colleagues choose.

He, like the others, is a tool of Satan.

I think it's time to see this church's 501(c)(3) classification revoked. That's always the call from Democrats when Republicans take up politics in the church, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

Does Obama believe in abortion?

Jesus would not have believed in abortion.

Anyone who uses religion is a worry.
This church needs to have its tax exempt status revoked as it is violating it. "By their fruits you shall now them". Always beware someone who tries to get you to buy into them because of their faith. If a person told me to buy into their business because they are of the same faith as me, I would run the other way, that is how scams are done.

Even Romney who is the dreaded "mormon" is not using his religion.

Why a Kingdom why not a representative republic?

So in God's eyes ABORTION is OK? I don’t think so. Saying you are a Christian and actually standing up for Godly values are two very different things. I will never vote for anyone that promotes the Murder of an unborn child. Sorry Barack. You don’t get my vote.

Only a liberal thinks we can creat Nirvana on earth. It is the misconception that illuminates everything they do. Communists thought the same thing. Result = 100 million dead to cerate the "worker's paradise". Leftism is the true religion of liberal Democrats

this is an incredibly stupid statement. Even Jesus, who used the term kingdom, used it in the sense of individual righteousness brought about by confession of sin. it is reminicent of Eddie Money's lyrics in the song peace in our time - and building a kingdom on earth was never Jesus ideas. His kingdom, he said, was not of this world. Oh yes - and as to that peace in our time idea - note Neville Chamberlain - and what follow'd after.

It's called pandering…. and it seems like Obama and Hillary have made an art of it. If he'd been speaking to a group of atheists he'd have said that religion has no place in politics.

For the love of Moses: Barack Obama is a Christian and is a member of the United Church of Christ. He is not a Muslim. He is not attempting to bring Islam to your country. Stop making irrelevant comments about Iran, Socialism or Islam they only serve to distract from the issues and prove that you don't know what you're talking about.

Another pathetic attempt at pandering to the religious nitwits. Senator Barack should stick to what he does best… shilling his Marxist screed.

What is Obama talking about? Almost, nothing he says sounds like Christianity to me. But the kicker is his silence. Silence on the worldwide human slavery industry (bigger now than at anytime in history), silence on the slaughter of innocent human life (again, larger than any ancient slaughter of the innocents, and silence on the worldwide attack on family, marriage, sex, and culture. But he is for more AIDS funding - great. The death train rolls on, and Obama wants to be the engineer. He sickens me, and scares me.

Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this earth. Only when Jesus comes to reign for 1000 years will His kingdom be here on earth. Then the earth will pass away and those who are written in the Lambs Book of Life will live with Him forever…in the REAL Kingdom of Heaven. Unless we believe that we are God, then we cannot bring the Kingdom to earth.
Now, if you are a madman from Iran, you believe that you are bringing the Kingdom of God to earth. Apparently, Obama is in the same boat with these guys. Let's all sign up for that!

I guess ONLY conservative need to worry loosing their IRS tax exemption for violating 401c3 laws.
ONLY conservatives get in trouble for campaigning in church.
Hypocrites !

Obama wants a kingdom on earth, of course, he wants to be the king.

"I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth"

This is like showing your hands in a game of Texas Holdem'. Obama doesn't get what the "Kingdom" is about. If Christians latch onto this character because he can quote scripture, let's not forget that Satan can too. While I'm NOT comparing him to satan, I think it's important to remember that neither Christians or non, should be swayed because someone can talk a talk. It's the walk that matters and honestly, he hasn't been walking very long.

I wouldn't vote for this man if he was the only one running for president. Please spare us the religious BS…America has had enough of hypocritical religious holier than thou, do as I say, not as I do phoney politicans. Religion has no place in politics, nor should it have! A little arrogant to assume you can be an instrument of God and create a Kingdom here on earth…I really think you should move to the Mideast or some other country where the people have been brainwashed into believing that hogwash. America needs a strong leader, a leader who will advance science, technology, healthcare, clean up the corruption in government, etc. Unfortunately Obama I do not feel you are the person for that particular job. Perhaps a career as a Rev., Preacher, Priest, TV Evangelist, Pastor, etc. would suit you best.

To "So True" in Desha County:

Yep, Definately sounds like Latter Rain to me too. Check out the church Obama spoke at - Apostles and all.

And I also agree with Lee in Ann Arbor. I don't care which political party it is, I cannot support killing the most vulnerable human beings among us: the unborn. As to "wanted", there are many who do want these children that others are so willing to throw away. And God loves each one of these precious babies.

GOP walks in faith and values, therein lies the difference, Obama.

Yes, Obama say it as it is
GOD BLESS AMERICA, blue states and red states
IN GOD we Trust.
You have earned my vote

Hey,
Barack Hussein Obama, now that's a nice Christian name !
A kingdom on Earth??? Hey Obama, your utopian pipedreams are heresy.b

Billh,

You said:

"Sounds a lot like the muslin extremist that are killing our brave men & women in terrorist attacks. They also believe that they are "destined to create their style of Kingdom on Earth". You people are soo stupid…obama seeks to destroy capitalism and replace it with socialism, or worse, islam."

I will be charitable and call you a provocateur.

Actually, muslims are supposed to find the Kingdom in heaven - what with the 72 virgins they are promised. You could say that 9/11 was partly about sex for Atta and co. Crash a plane and you get to rape a few dozen women.

What you say about capitalism and socialism. LOL!!

Do you really believe this, or are you trying to spew ignorant venom on behalf of another campaign?

I hope you are just practicing ugly politics, because if the former is true, your MRIs probably turn up empty. Lucky you - no chance of brain cancer when you don't have the organ to begin with.

Just one question.. if he's claiming to be an "evangelical Christian" (although it isn't clear to me) how can he support abortion? But, it doesn't really matter. Clinton will get the nomination — she has a lot of power. The Clinton-Bush reign will continue on.

Where is the IRS? Why is it okay for black politicians to talk politics in church services? Did this church also invite someone from the Republican side to speak? The IRS needs to start enforcing its own rules!

A Christian would know that people can never "create a Kingdom right here on Earth" and that only God can and will do that when He's ready to apply his judgement on all the sins of this world. On the other hand, Obama wants to create a humanistic kingdom and call it God's while embracing the sins of this word. I'm not sure what Faith Obama sucscribes to - but it ain't from the Bible

nah, the only people walking into "oblivion" are left wingers, who excuse murder anr rape and blame society rather than the perp. Left wingers are free to follow Obama into oblivion. Obama is no Christian–he grew up Muslim and refused to vote against partial birth abortion. He ignored that whole "you shall not murder" ethos for poltical correctness and left wing stupidity and evilness. Obama is a false messiah for those godless leftists. What a joke. Any society that tolerates child murder is a kingdom of evil, not a kingdom of God.

Obama is nothing more than a pandering socialist.

100% pure pandering. Liberals are so stupid in every endeavor. No one is buying it, Osama.

TO QUOTE L.A.TIMES..WHO NAMED HIM THE MAGIC NEGRO..FREE AT LAST FREE AT LAST GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY,,IM GONNA GET MY FREE GOVERMENT CHEESE AND MY 40 ACRES AND A MULE..KEEP WORKING MILLIONS ON WELFARE DEPEND ON YOU..

For all his profession of Christian faith, Obama needs to get back to his Bible. The Kingdom of God is not a political kingdom.

"Now when He [Jesus Christ] was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.” Luke 17:20-21.

Chris from Ft. Wayne,

The difference between Obama's Kingdom on Earth and that of some neocons is that Obama does not advocate bombing clinics or blaming 9/11 on those who died, as the most right and eminent Jerry Falwell did.

In other words, it is a question of unity vs. hate. I am an atheist, but even I can understand the underlying premise of Obama's statements.

This is what happens when people take religion literally - they miss the big picture, and the consequences can be deadly.

Barack Obama is such a phony. Maybe his lack of support among religious voters has something to do with his support for abortion on-demand?

What kind of "instrument of God" believes in abortion on-demand?

I will believe Obama is a Christian when I see two thinks:

1-His tax return showing serious giving to a real church (remember Al Gore's $200 annaul charitable controbutions on a 200K plus income? these guys want to be generous with your Money)

2-His ablsolute repudiation of abortion, for which he is currently a absolute defender to the point of voting against life saving care to aborted babies born alive while in the ill legislature.

Those who think his 'religious' word are either real or importand are fools.

Osama Bin Barak has found God I wonder what Fidel Castro, Osama Bin Laden, and Ahmadinejad will think of his new found faith after all they all have endorsed Barak Osama. This phony claims he has found faith but refuses to wear the American Flag. I am trying to visualize President Obama refusing to recite the pledge of allegiance.

Someone help me here. Should this church lose it's tax exempt status for campaigning for a political candidate?

Is what this church doing endorsing a political candidate by hosting a service with Obama as a speaker?

Personally, I have problem with this, but if it were a GOP candidate rally at a conservative church, the IRS would be knocking at the door the next day.

Rick Warren and T.D Jakes, anemic Christians and who's kingdom is Barrack refering to? The Lord God Almighty creater of which the Bible speaks our the god and creater of Barracks humanistic secular world relegion view? Which is the truth?

There will not be a democrat in the white house next election you only have two candidates one a wife of a former president who most believe is a total bi/tch even most in your own party. And an unknown Mr. Obama/ male version of Oprah……….. lol

The only one that would have made a decent candidate is the Governor of New Mexico
Bill Richardson but you people are, Thank God, to stupid to support him.

You liberals need to find Jesus your party could really use the help.

God Bless President Bush and our troops!

The problem with pandering is that it intentionally demeans the people being pandered to . . . there should be no requirement that a candidate be religious in order to be a viable candidate - on either the right or the left. John McCain recently made equally as much of a fool of himself by claiming a Baptist conversion, so he'd fit right in in the Carolinas. Too many politicians expect too little of us; too many of us meet their expectations.

Being a Dem automatically disqualifies a person from gathering conservative Christian votes. They just don't get it and in fact they make us want to vomit when they try and pull these stunts. What Bible is he reading from? Certainly not the same one I use. Don't worry liberals, you will get your "kingdom" but Belial will be your king for eternity unless you repent.

John, you said:

"I find it telling that an atheist like Lioness is comfortable with Obama's statements because she knows it is only political rhetoric.
I recall how it scared the living hell out of liberals during Bush's first campaign when he spoke about his faith in God. I thought it funny then that the fear came from the fact that he actually meant what he was saying.
I find it tragic now that so many will find comfort in the fact that Obama is only campaigning and doesn't actually believe what he is feeding these crowds.
God help us."

You raise a valid point. Let me clarify: I don't think it's rhetoric. I think it's sincere - I just don't happen to interpret it in the way that believers do.

Why do I accept from Obama what I don't accept from Bush?

Because Obama is trustworthy. I know that he would not use religion to spit hate or division, or to polarize the country. He has expressed respect for non-believers like me, and very strongly said that we have morals and values too. He has shown himself to be inclusive.

His premise, his message and how he interprets the same God is diametrically opposed to how Bush interprets it. I do not trust Bush, and he has used religion to divide and criticize.

If I ever see that coming from Obama, I will call him on it in the strongest terms, but I see nothing like that so far. Just the opposite.

every election time the democrats go to black churches and claim they have faith–then attack the right and demand a separation of church and state. if you democrats really valued true faith youd be a republican. your democratic party has been blasting christians for years. cant you see the hypocrisy? you think hillary has faith? bill clinton? that religion for ya? its a total bummer that by the time you figure out your values and faith it will be too late.

Jesus Christ said in John 18:36 "My kingdom is not of this world". So if Christ's kingdom is not of this world, what kingdom is Sen.Obama trying to set up here? It's not biblical I'll tell u that much. Whether he means what he says or not, that's scary either way.

Obama is an apostate. Some wacky muslime is gonna go after him. Plus, he's a unitarian, which is not Christian and barely believes in God.

Obama sounds to me like our founding fathers and mothers - the men and women who founded this great country and who weren't afaid to speak about their faith.

I remember JFK was also unafraid to talk about his Catholic faith.

Obama is clearly a person of courage, conviction and faith.

I find him exactly the kind of leader we need to face today's complex and serious problems

"HEY OBAMA…
This is GOD — You are a muslim phoney!!!

Posted By GOD in HEAVEN"

LOL!! This is what I mean by right-wing intolerance.

Makes a good read….http://www.time.com/time/poy2001/poyprofile.html

This guy is not fooling me. His religious background is Muslim, not Christian. What kind of Kingdom is "he" talking about? Scary, dude, really scary.

Senator Obama is an active member of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. It is the largest congregation in the United Church of Christ. One of the founding denominations included in the United Church of Christ are the Congregationalists who were the PILGRIMS. Senator Obama gave a keynote address for their national synod this summer. Other keynote speakers were Marion Wright Edelmann & Bill Moyers. This is a mainline Protestant denomination. Web site http://www.ucc.org

WAKE UP PEOPLE. This is a man that clearly says what people want to hear.
Does a Godly man promote the partial birth of a baby, sticking scissors in it's head and vacuuming the brains out?
This one did and does.

I think it would be great if Black Obama were elected President. If he fools enough people into thinking he is a Christian, when he gets into office, perhaps he will be true to his Islamic roots and do what could in retrospect be the most impartant act in US History, which would be to throw the Israel lobby the hell out of America.

"…a Kingdom on Earth." That is absolutely horrifying!! Absolutely horrifying!

http://elementromythia.blogspot.com

"He finished his brief remarks by saying, 'We're going to keep on praising together. I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.'"

Hahaha. He must not have read the Bible. That is exactly what we are not supposed to do.

Obama has written articles for the council on foreign relations, which is nothing more than a conglomerate of weapons, oil, media, drugs, and financial corporations. He is controlled by the same multinational corporations that run the bush administration. This is why he says wants to attack Pakistan. Wake up America.

Lol, Laurie that’s too funny, President Bush is a very nice man and liberals hate him, nice dose not count in this game.

I, too, question his commitment to God rather than to the liberal Democrat wing. His upbringing is Muslim, radical from his daddy and step-daddy. His mother was an Athesist!His current minister is a radical black seperatist! So regardless what he professes at the time and audience, can he be trusted to lead America. NOT!

Babylon also said they would build their own Heaven on earth. Look at how God judged them.
Jesus said in Revelation that He set up His kingdom on earth.
So sorry Obama, you wont be setting up God's kingdom anytime soon. If you dont understand these simple concepts of Christianity then I wouldnt consider you one. I feel sorry for the people that believed you at that church.
(It's so easy to see straight through these politicans when they fake having faith).

Perfect example of liberal "Christianity". For liberals, a good Christian is the same as a Marxist Socialist. Got news for you democrats. Karl Marx and Jesus Christ are two different people.

Is Obama running for AntiChrist? Sounds like it.

I'll pass. This guy is not wound too tightly.

It's his parties 'projects' that have his constituents in the hole they are. No passing the buck here. They need to own up to that.

Barak Obama may THINK we can create a kingdom here on earth but God says we cannt. HE says that it can only come through Christ AFTER His second coming. I wonder who is right? Obama or the Sovereign god.

Oh brother. Just have a conservative Republican speak on Sunday at a church service and all hell would break loose. This "kingdom on earth" crap is nothing new. Pat Robertson wants and preaches the same thing. He's trying to play the American public "like a fiddle" and it may be working. If he ever gets into office you will find him to be nothing but an incompetent nitwit.

Another lying democrat with stupid words for "on fire" Christians… don't expect the MSM to denounce this democrat "faith"… only Bush is the evil fake Christian according to the demo owned and card carrying dem media.
The ONE media that isn't demoloon is FOX, so of course all the democrats should now shriek FoxNews out loud and wrent their hippy clothing, and tell us Bush has destroyed the world, all our allies, and will soon bring us into global geothermal uncontrollable warming where the human species will go extinct unless we elect a democrat, then they'ell whine Bush is using fear mongering as an election and control tool, and never know what LYING ABSOLUTE hypocrits they are.
Just sing and scream "the politics of hope !!!!!!" and pretend all the demo lies are real, then your inner lib child will feel good and you can call for the death of republicans like "every good person does", along with the MSM alphabet and crazy Ted's land owning megaliath media.

Barack is a lightweight that you Dems who are so desparate for a savior are pushing forward. Do the country a favor and vote for Hilary or Bill Richardson or some serious minded person on your side who has relevant experience. This guy was worrying about his constituents parking tickets just two years ago & you want to make him leader of the free world??? God have mercy!

We need to be clear here. It's not the liberals who won't see the kingdom of God it's those, regardless of political bent, who don't believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

I just love the republicans on here showing their fascist colors.
On another discussion one was making fun of his name.
Here I see a few suggesting he is muslim (as if muslims are evil people) when he is a christian.

Of course these same republicans may label themselves as christians but their behavior and hatred, racial and religious hatred, is quite unchristlike.

This smearing of Obama came from Fox News and Rush Limpbaugh, who perhaps got some suggestions from Karl Rove's office.

The true face of modern republican ideology comes out here on this board with these comments.

This is the legacy of Karl Rove style politics based on racial hate, division, and demonization.

In the end what you see is that the "demons" are in right wing thought.
It comes out here.

If he ever made this Kingdom that he wants. It will become Orwells 1984. He will become Big Brother.

lol, anonymous we would support Israel even if it was run by a tyrant just to keep the Muslim Crusaders from trying to take it back lets not forget that Constantinople Egypt, Syria and Iraq were Christian nations before they were Muslin.