October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Jeff, Albuquerque, NM

    God's law of "Thou shalt not kill" and Sen. Obama's pro-abortion "law" of "Right to Choose [murder of the innocent unborn]" are a fundamental contradiction. Pro-abortion candidates like Sen. Obama should be admonished by Christians and not welcomed with open arms.

    October 7, 2007 11:51 pm at 11:51 pm |
  2. Lance

    EXACTLY why I made America's only politically CONSERVATIVE MUSIC CD. The Left rails against religion and then 'creates Heaven.' Sure. Try Blaming America First–the CD that gives Hillary, Ward Churchill and the others their due–to music!

    http://www.conservativemusiconline.com

    October 7, 2007 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |
  3. Boise ID

    He will say anything to get votes...

    October 7, 2007 11:52 pm at 11:52 pm |
  4. Danny Ross, Mandeville, LA

    Bad enough we have President Bush receiving instructions from the deity, now we have him/her talking to the Democrats.

    October 7, 2007 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm |
  5. Steve I. New York, NY

    I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on earth....I 'can be an instrument of God'?

    Isn't that what Ahmadinejad has been saying?

    Isn't it strange when the Dems try to appear religious to buy votes? automatically looks funny, like a suit that just doesn't fit. That's because the Democratic party and its prime movers at MoveOn.org and their mainstream media slaves have been assailing religion for years. Did you all see Christiane Amanpour's religion special on CNN? I rest my case.

    October 7, 2007 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm |
  6. Bedford, VA

    Kingdom on earth.. so.. whats the bill? This is the government that has messed up so many 'lofty goals' that my grandbabies will be paying the bills. Government: protectors of our country, make laws, and by Gods grace allows us to live free.

    October 7, 2007 11:55 pm at 11:55 pm |
  7. John Wood, Fort Worth, TX

    How can all of you question a political figure's character for his stance on the nationwide practice of abortion? Essentially you are condemning your own citizens. At least be clear about the object of your moralism.

    Obama is married and has a child, and finished top of his class at Harvard law school, and spent years as a humble community organizer before being elected to the Illinois Senate, where he's cleaned up political injustices. What more do you want from him about family values and ethical leadership?

    Perhaps you wouldn't be as critical had he provided a hermeneutic for his statement: it is not inconsistent with the passages in the Bible, nor does it imply that he wants to be the King. He is a civil servant and has never claimed to be anything more.

    October 7, 2007 11:56 pm at 11:56 pm |
  8. Bob, Charleston, SC

    Watch this video to see what Obama really means when he makes those comments

    October 7, 2007 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm |
  9. scott, monroe, la

    "I guarantee that if any right wing opponent made those remarks that would be lambasted. What ever happened to separation of Church and STATE??"

    Posted By Chris, Fort Wayne, Indiana : October 7, 2007 9:01 pm

    Right on, Christ.

    It seems OK for a liberal Democrat to go speak to a Black church on Sunday (same thing) and that is not "political" but don't let a Republican show up in church for a stump speech, that would be illegal.
    Another example, of many, that show a double standard.

    October 7, 2007 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm |
  10. Mike, Panama City Florida

    I just wondering, where this Church will stand with IRS after this?

    October 8, 2007 12:01 am at 12:01 am |
  11. One who knows

    IS OBAMA THE ANTICHRIST???

    Wouldn't surprise me in the least. Demorats will stoop to anything to get what they want. Lies mean nothing to any of 'em. They just want to hear what they want to hear without discernment!

    The time is at hand!

    October 8, 2007 12:02 am at 12:02 am |
  12. Scott, Texarkana, AR

    Alright!!! We should also set up a one world government under Obama and a one world religion (with all faiths taking part) under the Grand Potentate Obama. Maybe one day everyone in the world will become simpletons and follow this Christian liberal. ha, ha, ha, whew that's good stuff.

    October 8, 2007 12:03 am at 12:03 am |
  13. Jim Chicago Illinois

    I'm astounded at the ignorance people have today. Socialist really believe that they can do the work of Christ here on earth. Answer these simple questions...What country in the world is best known as being a Christian nation? What country is best known for being socialist? Tell me... are they the same nation? Absolutely not! Also.. Jesus speaks to individuals... not political parties. Jesus never said... steal from your neighbor's earnings to give to the poor. His commands were for his faithful followers... not for socialist politics.

    October 8, 2007 12:03 am at 12:03 am |
  14. Keith W Washington, DC

    There won't be any Kingdoms on earth until Jesus sets His up......according to the Bible anyway.....I don't believe one side or the other has a monopoly on The Father, The Son, or The Holy Spirit. I believe that the Bible is Holy Spirit inspire written word of men. It is the path and many of the ideas/beliefs that Barack espouses do not come from the Holy Bible. I pray for all of the candidates that God blesses them and uses them...

    October 8, 2007 12:06 am at 12:06 am |
  15. laney

    I knew i was right. he is the anitchrist.

    October 8, 2007 12:07 am at 12:07 am |
  16. cindy cochran willis tx

    I can't wait to see how long it takes for the media to pick up on this and ask the question "What Kingdom are you talking about?" If they don't...they prove their bias. This is a very strange statement, most christians believe the kingdom has already been established in the form of the church that Christ came here to establish through his death and resurrection. I love when candidates try and say something spiritual and just prove how little they know about the subject. Big mistake obama, and a big explanation is due to voters of your "potential kingdom". You are truly tredding on thin holy ground.

    October 8, 2007 12:08 am at 12:08 am |
  17. Corakita

    Christians who don't know Jesus might fall for the rhetoric but it is what it is...bad religion and bad politics. He cannot square his abortion policies with Scripture. Who can oversee the mass killing of unborn life through abortion and present this policy and practice to God as something good? Ted Kennedy does this too. It's just...these guys should be honest and say that God's laws about shedding innocent blood mean nothing to them. At least that would be honest.

    October 8, 2007 12:11 am at 12:11 am |
  18. Timmie,.Dublin

    Do the real christians( that means GOPer`s right? lol) include this myriad of racist neandertal imbeciles, sooo full of hate and falsehood.And this is 2007; America is in deep trouble indeed !

    October 8, 2007 12:13 am at 12:13 am |
  19. David, SC

    Oh my God.. Since when Obama became Christian. His middle name is 'Hussein'. He also should know that all left-wing democrats anti-Christ because they behave against our Church. Our religion does not allow abortion, gay marriages, etc Democrats are all for it including Obama. It looks like we have to live in Obama's Kingdom here on earth and Obama will be the king. Beware....

    October 8, 2007 12:15 am at 12:15 am |
  20. TB Baxter Enid, OK

    Juandos: Your comment was absolutely uncalled for and most unwelcome. I don't know how your use of the 'n' word got past the CNN moderator, unless they want to display disgusting posts like yours so they can paint all of Obama's critics witht he same racist brush. I'm frankly surprised no one else commented on your trash. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    October 8, 2007 12:15 am at 12:15 am |
  21. Brandon, New York

    Just another liberal whose ignorance of Scripture is laughable:

    "Jesus answered: My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now my kingdom is not from hence." (John 18:36)

    October 8, 2007 12:17 am at 12:17 am |
  22. Radulovich

    AHHHHHH HHHAAAAAA HHHAAAAAA

    THIS GUY IS SO SELF ABSORBED, It is pathetic.
    Man doesn't create the kingdom.
    It is already here, dork.
    How presumptuious. I am cracking up laughing.
    He doesn't know the truth. He is another wacked out left wing communist parle' ing to the people.
    Needs money. Needs votes. Will say anything to the 80% who watch the viewski and oprahski and the seinfeldski and the susan saranndonski. cannot spell.
    Pick up a few books, you libs. Put down the remote. If Hitlery and Hussein get in, hold on to your atheistic wallets. What a bunch of bovine excrement.

    October 8, 2007 12:18 am at 12:18 am |
  23. Mark Sarni, Redondo Beach, California

    This is all so absurd. The man has not even served one full term at the federal level nor has he ever managed a city, a state or a business. Do you really think he is qualified to run the most powerful nation in the world simply because he speaks well or because he graduated from Harvard? This is the real world and in the real world, people want to kill U.S. citizens. We need a leader who understands and appreciates that the single most important requirement of a President is to protect its citizens from its enemies, foreign and domestic. We don't need a President who gets elected by promising to steal from the rich to give to the poor. As Abraham Licoln once said, you don't make the poor rich by making the rich poor.

    October 8, 2007 12:19 am at 12:19 am |
  24. Steve, Rockledge, PA.

    One of the delegates, Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time, said: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."

    Mr Bush went on: "And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it."

    Mr Bush, who became a born-again Christian at 40, is one of the most overtly religious leaders to occupy the White House, a fact which brings him much support in middle America.

    GREAT... ANOTHER CLOWN WITH A MISSION FROM GOD... AND HE, LIKE BUSH, WILL NEVER BE WRONG BECAUSE HE TALKS TO GOD... UNFRIGGIN BELIEVABLE !!!

    October 8, 2007 12:19 am at 12:19 am |
  25. Rob

    How about we all just man up and have it out in one big blow out brawl?! The racist, fake Christian Americans vs the real true Christian Americans who believe in equality. Any time you see a post call someone a n-– we know who we are dealing with. For CNN to promote this it shows thier true colors too! For all of you racist, back alley, fake hillbilly, crackerjack, demons all you can do is hide behind the key board.

    Real Christians are not putting up with the crap being put out by you right wing nuts anymore. When you go before your maker and he sends you down to Hell remember the Bible says "LOVE THY NEIGHBOR! For GOD so loved the world that he gave his only son to save all of us not some of us. Time to get used to and except it you racist pigs! WE ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN, Gay, Straight, black, white, Muslim, liberal, conservative, pro-choice, pro life et. Non of you racist scare us for we know GOD has the final say. He is the judge and jury and OH yes WE WILL ALL BE JUDGED! SOME OF YOU RACIST NUTS WILL GET A FIREY SURPRISE!

    GO Obama!

    October 8, 2007 12:21 am at 12:21 am |
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