October 8th, 2007
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Brian, Knoxville TN

    To David in Arizona,

    I couldn't agree with you more. ALL of the candidates, democrat or republican, would fail in God's eyes. These postings are truly sad and disgusting.

    October 8, 2007 12:21 pm at 12:21 pm |
  2. Ethan, Los Angeles, CA

    Obama, if and when you take office, your oath is to defend the US Constitution, not to preach. You are not experienced enough to handle the office of the US President. Do not go into a church and tell me you are doing God's Will. Is the other candidate doing the Will of the devil?

    I was initially excited about you running for president, but then I got wise. I have just changed parties to support Dr. Ron Paul. He is the champion of the US Constitution.

    October 8, 2007 12:22 pm at 12:22 pm |
  3. Jeff, Ponce, Puerto Rico

    You've got to be kidding me...there's so-called Christians supporting Obama? The guy is pro-abortion...that invalidates him completely as someone a Christian can support.

    October 8, 2007 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  4. DR.Parker, Birmingham Alabama

    Who does Barack Obama think he is God? Give me a break Kingdom on Earth!

    October 8, 2007 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm |
  5. Wayne, Tulsa, Oklahoma

    Edited away by the CNN Blog Trolls earlier. I will repost again and again until the censorship ends. No Profanity in either post, giving my Real name and a valid email account that I check regularly. so here goes again;

    Kingdom of God, sure, he wants to establish a Caliphate. I believe this weasle will capitulate to the Muslims Fascists and help them establish their global Caliphate. Never trust this person. Or for that matter, CNN.

    3rd time posted, Why delete my comments? afraid of the truth or afraid of free speech? What rule am I breaking? I will reposyt when this is removed as well.

    CNN = Fascists and censors

    October 8, 2007 12:25 pm at 12:25 pm |
  6. JJ in Georgia

    To EMC:

    Would that be a course at Columbia per chance?

    You gotta love it when a Dem gets all churchy and you lefties praise him like he's the second coming.

    But a Rep mentions the word God and you all start screaming separation of church and state.

    October 8, 2007 12:26 pm at 12:26 pm |
  7. Bill Rummel, Charleston, SC

    To answer all your questions as to how/why Obama can bring politics into a church without penalty, see who his top campaign contributors are! He's just another CFR log on the presidential heap.
    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

    October 8, 2007 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm |
  8. Bill Rummel, Charleston, SC

    For the answer as to how/why Obama is permitted to politic inside a 501c(3)church you must know who owns him. Here are his top campaign contributors:

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008

    October 8, 2007 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  9. Larry, Atlanta, GA

    Someone needs to explain to Obama (as well as most politicians who use the word on both sides of the aisle) that 'faith' is not a stand alone concept. Faith is only as good as the object in which it's placed. ALL faith is a 'particular brand of faith' there's no such thing as generic faith and no true Christian would promote such an idea. Christianity is faith IN Jesus Christ alone as the one true way to be reconciled to God with all other 'faiths' being recognized as conterfeit, something I seriously doubt Obama would affirm.

    October 8, 2007 12:29 pm at 12:29 pm |
  10. Cayla, Austin, TX

    Lioness denigrates Republicans when they speak of faith yet applauds a Democrat when they speak of their faith, despite the fact that she is a self-professed atheist. Liberals don't have positions, they have labels. What Lioness is saying is: Some are more equal than others. No thank you. That is a dangerous idea.

    October 8, 2007 12:30 pm at 12:30 pm |
  11. R.J.

    Right-wing neoCONs like Shrub claim to be christian, and they smear Obama for making the same claim. Jesus said to love your enemies, and not to kill, and to turn the other cheek, and to give to the poor(not millionaires). The CONs have fooled the sheeple, but not God. Christ said, "Many will come to me on the last day and say, didn't I cast out demons in your name, and didn't I prophecy in your name? And Christ will respond, I know you not, you are workers of iniquity."

    October 8, 2007 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  12. Fed-Up, Maine

    Wow, nothing gets the nuts to come out of the wooodwork like pulling out the religion card! People of faith need to go back and hit the books if they go around preaching "every life is sacred" and "forgiveness in the only way", and then go on to vote for capital punishment and the right to use force and bomb Iraqi civilians into oblivion. You think politicians are the only hypocrites, but take a look in the mirror. Until every single citizen can believe in whatever they want to at home and in their church, but put it all to the side and REALLY think about the issues before they pull that lever, then this country will never be any better off.

    October 8, 2007 12:32 pm at 12:32 pm |
  13. Allan Erickson, Newberg, OR

    Following Christ is not about politics, as Judas supposed. It is not about making people feel good, as so many people assume. Following Christ is about recognizing your sin, and humbly asking Him to help you overcome it. Everybody wants to hijack the Lord and enlist Him in support of their temporal, meager political machinations. He is far above and beyond our petty politics.

    October 8, 2007 12:33 pm at 12:33 pm |
  14. Tim, Round Rock, TX

    Obama and TD Jakes both understand something about black churches: they're full of suckers just waiting to be taken.

    Jakes is using Obama to gain notoriety and more contributions. Obama is using Jakes and his congregation to gain votes and more contributions. The losers are the congregation who empty their pockets for nothing more than speeches full of words they don't understand and promises that they'll never see fulfilled.

    October 8, 2007 12:35 pm at 12:35 pm |
  15. Brian Cranford, nj

    God Bless you Obama. Maybe now we can indeed get a kingdom and do away wiht all this republican stuff.

    October 8, 2007 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm |
  16. DHW

    Barack HUSSEIN Obama is going to lecture us on Christian faith?! Would that be the faith of his father(s) Islam or the faith of his politically active, white-hating megachurch? Just askin'.

    October 8, 2007 12:42 pm at 12:42 pm |
  17. R. Lying

    R.J. you are a liar. Produce one quote where Bush attacked Obama's faith.

    You liberals have really got to stop stating your opinions as if they were fact.

    October 8, 2007 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm |
  18. Anonymous

    Spoken like a true anti-christ. "Kingdom on earth" references Satan's rein on earth. There is only one kingdom and that is in God's heaven with Jesus. Wait a minute, isn't Obama a Moslem portraying a Christian.

    October 8, 2007 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm |
  19. Open, Your, Mind

    Trying to force a rigid set of rules like christianity into a democratic government, is like trying to mash a square peg in a round hole. As long as we all agree that we all have seperate faiths and beliefs, lets all agree to keep them the heck out of politics and focus on what's best for the country. Ignorance and narrow minded thoughts have no place in a progressive system like our government. Keep church and state seperate!

    October 8, 2007 12:46 pm at 12:46 pm |
  20. Neil Edwards, Atlanta, GA

    Democrats have faith and values? They never talk about them.

    October 8, 2007 12:48 pm at 12:48 pm |
  21. Marcus, Portland, Oregon

    Hey, all you holy rollers out there, here's one for you! "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
    Practice what you preach.

    October 8, 2007 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm |
  22. Abe Jefferson

    Obama has no chance to be President.

    October 8, 2007 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  23. Rich, Philadelphia, PA

    Chances of Democrats becoming the party of the religious anytime soon = zero. The Democratic party is the most hostile to the religious. It is the party of abortion, radical gay movements, and the ACLU (which is actively engaged in rewriting history to erase our Christian heritage).

    This is pandering at its purest and anyone with at least two brain cells sees it as such.

    By the way, why bring a photographer and camera man to the church? Aren't leftists always complaining that religious people should keep religion private, to themselves?

    October 8, 2007 12:51 pm at 12:51 pm |
  24. Texas Annie, Plano, TX

    What kind of "Kingdom" is Obama talking about? WHO will be the "King"? Does he even KNOW what he is talking about? This man is extremely foolish or naive or both. May God (the true King) help us all!

    October 8, 2007 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
  25. Rach M Oklahoma City, OK

    I am afraid that neither party has a claim for religion or true Christianity. They are both corrupt. I don't,however, remember any republican saying that they had a "lock" on religion.

    However, a party that supports the death of innocent children will not be smiled kindly upon by God..pretty simple.

    Personally, I think we are severely lacking for decent candidates in this campaign
    that want to talk REAL issues. Religion isn't one of them.

    October 8, 2007 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm |
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