October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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  1. Bill Handle

    Who beleives anything that CNN publishes anymore? They have lost all credibilty in reporting the news and their general programming.

    October 8, 2007 12:53 pm at 12:53 pm |
  2. Nate, Orange, CA

    The man is a Muslim, not an evangelical. He is flip-flopping and will do anything to get into power. If he is willing to forsake his own faith...what else is he willing to forsake?

    October 8, 2007 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm |
  3. Dave N Hoodsport WA

    Getting the evangelical vote is not based on talking about religion, but what your view is on the important worldview issues that Christians hold to. So far I have not heard Mr. Obamma display my beliefs in his statements. Maybe he will but for now he is striking out.

    October 8, 2007 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  4. Ted, Phoenix, AZ

    If we have a "kingdom," Obama will be its King Herod. He is an enthusiastic supporter of abortion on demand, for any reason, at any time, even up to the moment of birth. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY)correctly called partial birth abortion infanticide. But worse, as state senator, Obama blocked a bill to require medical care for babies who were actually born alive and healthy despite the best efforts of the abortionists to kill them. http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/abortion-foes-target-obama-because-of-his-vote-record-on-illinois-legislation-2007-02-15.html

    October 8, 2007 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  5. Chuck, Henderson, KY

    Rudy...Clinton...Obama...has it actually come to this? God help our country!

    October 8, 2007 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  6. Anonymous

    Has anyone pondered the fact that Obama is a devout Muslim who, by Islamic law, cannot pledge allegiance to anything or anyone except Allah? Shouldn't a US President at least pledge allegiance to the country he is in charge of? I have yet to find any reference on his website to his religion other than he attends a Christian church but I know that he prays to Mecca several times a day. I think he should explain this to the public instead of hiding this "small" detail from America.

    October 8, 2007 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  7. Me, Fullerton, CA

    No one said that faith is belonged to GOP, Obama. I know you are trying to get votes from Christian community. You might get some, at least from the black Christians, because race usually more preferable than faith. We will see how many Christians voters you can get after all of your efforts.

    The same thing happened to John Kerry in 2004 election. He tried to get some portion from Christian voters, but was he success?? You think you can fool God?? You think you are smarter than God?? If you think go to hell with my God, then why you talk about Christian faith?? You are a big hypocrite!

    I challenge every one who wants to bet with me, this man will never become the President of The United States of America because he is not the annointed one. Period. You may not trust me, it's up to you, and you will see that I'm true.

    October 8, 2007 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm |
  8. John, Charlotte, NC

    Hysterical...the party that has spent a vast majority of its time fighting to push religion out of every aspect of American life...now claims to be its champion. Great comedy!

    October 8, 2007 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm |
  9. LIBAVENGER

    R. Lying
    R.J. didn't say Bush, he said "neoCONs LIKE SHRUB". Typical CON, twisting peoples words.

    October 8, 2007 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  10. Steve Mills, Sandia Park NM

    Too bad most politicians throw religion in to their campaigns to just get votes. Obama is a good guy but I want to hear someone say that they will help our elderly population and stop wasteful GOV't spending. Not religion.

    October 8, 2007 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  11. Matthew, Charleston, SC.

    Obama gives one speech and then becomes a presidental canidate. He is given praise and credentials from only the words he speaks. And now invokes god and talks of unity as if he is a prophet himself. I believe in unity but he has done nothing but divide this nation. And it seems to me that there is something in the bible about the antichrist being a master of CONversation. Yes democrats, vote barrack "the new messiah" and see his policies put into place. Don't dare do any research into his past or really think about how his policies will affect the world. No lets just pull out of iraq and start war with pakistan and saudi arabia and see if we can insight the whole muslim world against us. I understand things are bad now and I don't claim that Goerge Bush has done a great job. But Obama's foreign policies are naives and dangerous. American must be strong and united or we will fall. And when we do, do not think that our enemies around the world will not take the opportunity to punish us. It will only fit to cement the false idea that we are to blame for their troubles, not their own corruption and negligence.

    October 8, 2007 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  12. dave, phila. pa.

    how can a so called christian nation be so full of hate? the hate on this board alone would make anybodys god vomit!

    October 8, 2007 01:01 pm at 1:01 pm |
  13. M. D. White

    It's pathetic how the Dems play whatever card is needed at the time to blow smoke in everyone's face...the race card, the gay card, the "Choice" card, the gay card, the "save the children card," and now the religion card. If a Republican speaks at a church, there's a howl of self-righteous indignation about the so-called "separation of church and state," but bobble-headed sycophants glow and nod in approval when Clinton or Obama or whoever does the same. What hypocrasy. BTW, other than invading Pakistan, what stance has the genius Obama taken on anything. He speaks in vaporous sound-bites and is nothing but a designer suit..

    October 8, 2007 01:03 pm at 1:03 pm |
  14. Jay, Newport Beach

    Anonymous, please don't be ignorant. Obama is not a muslim. I know you guys post and repost that lie for people to read it and believe. If anything, he was raised seqular by his mother, who didn't trust religion, yet exposed him to all religions so he could learn and be the well rounded individual he is now. READ HIS BOOK and get the answers there. If you still don't like him then don't vote for him and go and vote for your favorite blood thirsty republican.

    October 8, 2007 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  15. Kevin, Indianapolis, IN

    Oh, good grief. Can't you people recognize a snow job when you see it? He's paying lip service to Christians just like the Republicans have done for years. Heck, he's using the SAME ARGUEMENT. He uses the same, tired rhetoric the Republicans do for religion, sticks his foot in his mouth when it comes to international policy and has already angered some of our mid-east allies. The only candidate LESS qualified than Obama for office is Hillary.

    Face it, the Republicans have left their conservative values and the Democrats think we're stupid enough to believe they HAVE them. It's time for a 3rd party to rise.

    October 8, 2007 01:08 pm at 1:08 pm |
  16. Jim - Neputne, N.J.

    What a bone head Obama is...pandering to groups because he is way behind Hillary. The entire Democrat Party is morally bankrupt of both values and ideas

    October 8, 2007 01:10 pm at 1:10 pm |
  17. Emery, Atlanta GA

    Ha Ha. That is funny. So a liberal Democrat talks about religion and that is good. But a conservative Republican does and that is bad? I noticed how CNN is pushing the whole we are holy too crap for the democrats. I'm just waiting for the day Hilary's prayer warriors take over the country. Now that is scary. Obama is a pathetic joke. So is his progressive faith. Anyone that falls for that is an idiot. Keep murdering those babies liberals.

    October 8, 2007 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  18. Nanette Kastraveckas, Gloversville, NY

    Bankers and lawyers are funding the Obama campaign. If that's OK with you, then expect more of the Bush-Clinton cabal policies.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.asp?id=N00009638&cycle=2008
    BARACK OBAMA (D)
    Top Contributors

    Goldman Sachs $311,228
    Lehman Brothers $226,550
    Exelon Corp $189,350
    Sidley Austin LLP $187,750
    Citadel Investment Group $168,650
    JP Morgan Chase & Co $156,580
    Citigroup Inc $152,750
    UBS AG $136,000
    Jones, Day et al $133,325
    Skadden, Arps et al $112,650
    Harvard University $109,100
    Kirkland & Ellis $102,601
    Jenner & Block $101,772
    University of California $97,108
    Time Warner $92,400
    WilmerHale $91,060
    UBS Americas $90,480
    Morgan Stanley $87,000
    Viacom Inc $80,200
    Mayer, Brown et al $80,130

    October 8, 2007 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  19. L, Phila PA

    Obama, maybe you better read your Bible again. God is the only one who is going to establish a Kingdom on Earth, when he returns for His believers.

    October 8, 2007 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  20. Patrick, Marietta, GA

    The implication that this is a conservative church is not true. That is a fallacy made up by the media to have people believe that he is transforming conservatives into liberals. Liberal churches believe that the state (the government) should take things from one person through taxes and help others through welfare. That is not what Christianity advocates. Christians are responsible for taking care of the poor, sick, and widows with tithes given to it freely by its members. Christianity never advocates taking from someone and giving it to another.

    October 8, 2007 01:12 pm at 1:12 pm |
  21. John, Fargo ND

    He's a sleeper – trying to take democracy and Christianity down from within.

    Have you studied his background? Study, people – study!!

    October 8, 2007 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  22. Anonymous, New Mexico

    Barack is out of touch with the Christian faith. Why does he go into churches to hype political agendas? The church is the house of God, a place to pray for your enemies. Separation of church and state was to protect the church from the state, and not use it as a pedestal for personal gain.

    I'm disgusted by how close minded the democrats are to what Christianity is really about, and how they use these churches as a means for political gain.... disgusting.

    October 8, 2007 01:13 pm at 1:13 pm |
  23. Charles S., Agate Beach, OR

    To: Intolerant Christians. Open your eyes. Look
    around you here in the US. There ARE other faiths and religions. It's time for you to get with reality instead of shoving your version of it down peoples' throats. The US is a "big tent," and that includes
    non-Christians.

    October 8, 2007 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  24. brett, illinois

    Politicians are not leaders. Obama and all the other candidates (Dem and Rep) feed on the vulnerabilities of people for gain of power. It's lesson #1 in any political science class: Tell the people what they want to hear in an effective way. Hillary is the worst. Why can't a true leader run for office?

    October 8, 2007 01:14 pm at 1:14 pm |
  25. andrew bonnette Alexandria,LA

    fake, fake, fake. This guy is so ridiculous its almost funny. Fred Thompson is the only true candidate. And you can take that to the bank, because he will be our next president. All you liberals can chew on that for a while.

    October 8, 2007 01:15 pm at 1:15 pm |
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