October 8th, 2007
08:45 AM ET
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Obama: GOP doesn't own faith and values

Obama told an evangelical church in South Carolina: "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

GREENVILLE, South Carolina (CNN) - After speaking to an evangelical church on Sunday in this traditionally conservative South Carolina city, Sen. Barack Obama said that Republicans no longer have a firm grip on religion in political discourse.

"I think its important particularly for those of us in the Democratic Party to not cede values and faith to any one party," Obama told reporters outside the Redemption World Outreach Center where he attended services.

"I think that what you're seeing is a breaking down of the sharp divisions that existed maybe during the nineties, when at least in politics the perception was that the Democrats were fearful of talking about faith, and on the other hand you had the Republicans who had a particular brand of faith that often times seemed intolerant or pushed people away," he said.

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soundoff (976 Responses)
  1. Pittsburgh, PA

    So Obama wants to position himself as the antichrist? Go for it. That is the lie Satan himself will use to bring the gullible saps of this world into the final apocalypse.

    Even if you liberals memorize the Bible cover to cover you won't understand a single verse in it.

    October 7, 2007 09:47 pm at 9:47 pm |
  2. mac toronto

    I find it hilarious that certain people like a theocratic Christian as long as they tow the proper political line. Don't be fooled people by a slick religious line. This is the problem with the Repubs and now they are ruled by the religious right.

    October 7, 2007 09:47 pm at 9:47 pm |
  3. timbuck, houston, tx

    larry craig is the face of the gop. Obama rocks!!!!!

    October 7, 2007 09:48 pm at 9:48 pm |
  4. kwill

    He's into killing unborn babies. He wants to be an instrument of God. Anybody see the hipocracy?

    October 7, 2007 09:48 pm at 9:48 pm |
  5. Matt Long, Fredericksburg, VA

    Christian? The Ten Commands clearly state that one shall not steal, yet Obama has no problem with the government taking my money through force and spending it on whatever "feel good" projects he and his communist colleagues choose.

    He, like the others, is a tool of Satan.

    October 7, 2007 09:48 pm at 9:48 pm |
  6. Kevin, Austin, TX

    I think it's time to see this church's 501(c)(3) classification revoked. That's always the call from Democrats when Republicans take up politics in the church, and what's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?

    October 7, 2007 09:49 pm at 9:49 pm |
  7. Minuteman

    Does Obama believe in abortion?

    Jesus would not have believed in abortion.

    October 7, 2007 09:49 pm at 9:49 pm |
  8. kc cooper, Ogden, UT

    Anyone who uses religion is a worry.
    This church needs to have its tax exempt status revoked as it is violating it. "By their fruits you shall now them". Always beware someone who tries to get you to buy into them because of their faith. If a person told me to buy into their business because they are of the same faith as me, I would run the other way, that is how scams are done.

    Even Romney who is the dreaded "mormon" is not using his religion.

    October 7, 2007 09:49 pm at 9:49 pm |
  9. A Vanore Marshalltown, IA

    Why a Kingdom why not a representative republic?

    October 7, 2007 09:52 pm at 9:52 pm |
  10. Brandon Z Jax, Fl.

    So in God's eyes ABORTION is OK? I don’t think so. Saying you are a Christian and actually standing up for Godly values are two very different things. I will never vote for anyone that promotes the Murder of an unborn child. Sorry Barack. You don’t get my vote.

    October 7, 2007 09:53 pm at 9:53 pm |
  11. Kevin - Philadelphia

    Only a liberal thinks we can creat Nirvana on earth. It is the misconception that illuminates everything they do. Communists thought the same thing. Result = 100 million dead to cerate the "worker's paradise". Leftism is the true religion of liberal Democrats

    October 7, 2007 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  12. steve homer alaska

    this is an incredibly stupid statement. Even Jesus, who used the term kingdom, used it in the sense of individual righteousness brought about by confession of sin. it is reminicent of Eddie Money's lyrics in the song peace in our time – and building a kingdom on earth was never Jesus ideas. His kingdom, he said, was not of this world. Oh yes – and as to that peace in our time idea – note Neville Chamberlain – and what follow'd after.

    October 7, 2007 09:55 pm at 9:55 pm |
  13. Daniel Burgess, Dallas, TX

    It's called pandering.... and it seems like Obama and Hillary have made an art of it. If he'd been speaking to a group of atheists he'd have said that religion has no place in politics.

    October 7, 2007 09:57 pm at 9:57 pm |
  14. Matan Ar'ye Schwartz, Tel Aviv, Israel

    For the love of Moses: Barack Obama is a Christian and is a member of the United Church of Christ. He is not a Muslim. He is not attempting to bring Islam to your country. Stop making irrelevant comments about Iran, Socialism or Islam they only serve to distract from the issues and prove that you don't know what you're talking about.

    October 7, 2007 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  15. Thomas Paine, Boston MA

    Another pathetic attempt at pandering to the religious nitwits. Senator Barack should stick to what he does best... shilling his Marxist screed.

    October 7, 2007 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm |
  16. Steve, North Chicago, IL

    What is Obama talking about? Almost, nothing he says sounds like Christianity to me. But the kicker is his silence. Silence on the worldwide human slavery industry (bigger now than at anytime in history), silence on the slaughter of innocent human life (again, larger than any ancient slaughter of the innocents, and silence on the worldwide attack on family, marriage, sex, and culture. But he is for more AIDS funding – great. The death train rolls on, and Obama wants to be the engineer. He sickens me, and scares me.

    October 7, 2007 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm |
  17. Moline, IL

    Jesus said that His kingdom is not of this earth. Only when Jesus comes to reign for 1000 years will His kingdom be here on earth. Then the earth will pass away and those who are written in the Lambs Book of Life will live with Him forever...in the REAL Kingdom of Heaven. Unless we believe that we are God, then we cannot bring the Kingdom to earth.
    Now, if you are a madman from Iran, you believe that you are bringing the Kingdom of God to earth. Apparently, Obama is in the same boat with these guys. Let's all sign up for that!

    October 7, 2007 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  18. Mike Frazier Orlando Florida

    I guess ONLY conservative need to worry loosing their IRS tax exemption for violating 401c3 laws.
    ONLY conservatives get in trouble for campaigning in church.
    Hypocrites !

    October 7, 2007 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  19. Michael, Vermillion, South Dakota

    Obama wants a kingdom on earth, of course, he wants to be the king.

    October 7, 2007 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  20. KDC, Nashville Tenn

    "I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth"

    This is like showing your hands in a game of Texas Holdem'. Obama doesn't get what the "Kingdom" is about. If Christians latch onto this character because he can quote scripture, let's not forget that Satan can too. While I'm NOT comparing him to satan, I think it's important to remember that neither Christians or non, should be swayed because someone can talk a talk. It's the walk that matters and honestly, he hasn't been walking very long.

    October 7, 2007 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm |
  21. Moe, NY

    I wouldn't vote for this man if he was the only one running for president. Please spare us the religious BS...America has had enough of hypocritical religious holier than thou, do as I say, not as I do phoney politicans. Religion has no place in politics, nor should it have! A little arrogant to assume you can be an instrument of God and create a Kingdom here on earth...I really think you should move to the Mideast or some other country where the people have been brainwashed into believing that hogwash. America needs a strong leader, a leader who will advance science, technology, healthcare, clean up the corruption in government, etc. Unfortunately Obama I do not feel you are the person for that particular job. Perhaps a career as a Rev., Preacher, Priest, TV Evangelist, Pastor, etc. would suit you best.

    October 7, 2007 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  22. Concerned, Rochester, NY

    To "So True" in Desha County:

    Yep, Definately sounds like Latter Rain to me too. Check out the church Obama spoke at – Apostles and all.

    And I also agree with Lee in Ann Arbor. I don't care which political party it is, I cannot support killing the most vulnerable human beings among us: the unborn. As to "wanted", there are many who do want these children that others are so willing to throw away. And God loves each one of these precious babies.

    October 7, 2007 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  23. bprossers me

    GOP walks in faith and values, therein lies the difference, Obama.

    October 7, 2007 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm |
  24. FillyM

    Yes, Obama say it as it is
    GOD BLESS AMERICA, blue states and red states
    IN GOD we Trust.
    You have earned my vote

    October 7, 2007 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm |
  25. Chris NY

    Hey,
    Barack Hussein Obama, now that's a nice Christian name !
    A kingdom on Earth??? Hey Obama, your utopian pipedreams are heresy.b

    October 7, 2007 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm |
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