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What an opportunist he is.

World wars 1&2 were not over oil and we bailed peoples asses out, just to name a few times.

I am tired of being the policemen of the world (I was half agreeing with you), no matter what happens, everyone looks to us for help and NO MATTER WHAT, someone gets pissed off at us.

If we went over to Darfur, some like you would applaud us, and an even higher percentage would hammer us for killing people innocent or not while trying to HELP PEOPLE OUT.

In a perfect world we would not have to do that, but this world is not perfect and neither are we, we MAKE MISTAKES even when we THINK we are doing the right thing (see Iraq).

To even infer that we are NOT the MOST GENEROUS, CARING and GIVING people in this whole WORLD, is frankly BS.

In this case, everyone else is fighting for a distant second place.

Anti-war people like to portray people that don't agree with them as pro-war, who the hell is pro-war, war sucks, but is sometimes needed.

If we did nothing to help anyone and stopped giving to other countries including CANADA, think how much easier it would be on us, it would seem like a UTOPIA for us, but the rest of the world would crumble, think about that next time "your country or another country" needs us.

And someone will.

Tom, Dedham Mass:

Exactly Tom.

But just when has the US shown empathy for the citizens being raped and slaughtered in countries that are not producing oil?

Are there US troops in Africa? Mikinduri? Darfur? ETC ETC ETC ... NO

You know as well as the world knows that OIL is what war is all about...Scores of Military Heros in Iraq are being slain because of OIL...And now the same old rehetoric is being used on Iran. Could there be a possibility that Iran might thwart the attempts to win the war on OIL?

If the US announced tomorrow they were sending troops to Darfur I would be the first to applaud their compassion.
And I'm sure many UN Nations would be thrilled to aid such gallant and humanitarian missions. But, fear not, it won't happen.

A Community based group in PEI has made two trips to Mikinduri and raised enough money to provide eight wells and clean water and are currently working on providing more wells. Canada has donated ten thousand per year to Afghanistan. And Afghanistans have become second families to many Canadians. We like many are peace loving people.

But it seems many here are quick to condemn UN Members. But, many of those members have troops on the front lines in Iraq as we speak although they vehemently frown upon war and strive for Peace. Albeit, the majority of members sent troops to Iraq under duress as we all know many Nations questioned the necessity for military action.

So although my viewpoint may seem utopian to you, many Nations have negotiated peace without the disastrous aftermath of war. But of course, they put their people and country before power and the insidious wrath it utlimately bestows upon the world.

I wonder what our many Heroes from days of yore are saying, As Poppies Blow in Flanders Field.

If all Nations would mind their own business and refrain from interfering in the business of other Nations and their people what a wonderful world it would be.

I agree "Trish", I wouldn't give another country a dime and when people are being slaughtered and raped, we should just turn our backs as that would be interfering.

Let these other countries fight their own battles and feed their own people.

Let the United nations do their jobs and police and take care of the world.

What a "wonderful world it would be".

Alec, Orlando, FL

I'm with you. Well said.

No other country in the world has a Government that believes their responsibility is to Police and reign in every other Nation around the Globe.

Then their surprised when these Nations try to fight back to perserve their rights and freedoms. The US Government somehow believes they can dictate to other Nations as to what form of society, government, doctrines, and religion other countries must adopt and employ.

If a country doesn't want to live as a Democracy it is their choice. Why would any Nation assume they would have the authority to invade and restructure another Nation?

Turn the tables and what do you think America would do in Iraq's situation?

If all Nations would mind their own business and refrain from interfering in the business of other Nations and their people what a wonderful world it would be.

Too bad they ever found oil.

I'm pretty sure that no matter what he says – the left will find fault. "I don't care if they bash us all over the world. What country do they most want to come to? What country do they most want to copy?” – is any part of this untrue? Giuliani is a moderate....who speaks to everyone (not corrupted by the left wing that believes their party didn't authorize the war....nor continue funding it) – just listen to what he is saying....we are the best country in the world....we had a couple issues with wanting to police it and getting into situations we didn't need to be in.....but overall – we are an excellent country – and when Mr Giuliani becomes President Giuliani..I think we will once again be great – supreme court justices are retiring next couple years – America needs a social liberal AND a fiscal conservative (I know...the unions don't like him....but they know their time has come and gone)

So basically Giuliani does not care about how the rest of the world views us. Isn't that why we were attacked in the first place. Because we piss people off and don't care. Thats the attitude to have Giuliani. He will get us all killed by carrying on what Bush is doing. Bravo.

Right on Jon, right on.

You "Americans" that don't think this is the greatest country in the world, don't let the door hit your fat privileged asses on the way out.

The only point that Rudy is making is that people want to come here, because for all of our "issues" nobody has a better overall standard of living and more chances to grow, prosper, learn and earn, the whole package.

If you don't like Bush, fine, I don't either, but I will be damned if I am going to read about how much this country sucks and is hated, from people that enjoy life, liberty and the pursuit MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Hop in your $40,000 SUV, pack your 30 gig IPOD, IPHONE, cell phone and stop at the carryout so you have food that is edible and leave, try Canada.

I will send you your absentee ballot that allows you to vote freely without fear, so you can all come back in 2009 when Hillary wins and there will be no sickness, suffering, hurricanes and nobody will even consider bombing our embassies, WTC, ships etc, etc, because we will be so loved again.

Is this bigoted or narrow-minded thinking by Rudy? Don't think so, as in my MANY travels I have heard other countries and people think THEIR WAY IS THE BEST WAY.

Good for them, they SHOULD feel that way and I don't hold it against them.

I don't even like Rudy, but he is right as hell here.

I support your right to bash America, I supported that right by serving proudly, everybody else is still fighting for "second place" IMHO.

So is Rudy saying that having a lot of people want to emigrate to your country makes you great? Because if so, then that makes Saudi Arabia a great country.

Every myth has a basis in truth. Giuliani is correct that millions of people want to come to the United States but not because they think this country is the most attractive.

Millions of people from South America may want to come to the United States only because of our close proximaty. The same thing is happening to European countries as well. The United States is not unique in this regard.

If millions of people from affluent nations, not third world countries, were clamoring to get into the United States then I'd place a value on Giuliani's statement. The reality is that Giuliani once again is only pandering to the audience with empty rhetoric.

couldn´d get his act together in NYC, and he wants to be president?, only idiots like him will cast a vote in his favor. GOD SAVE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
Stop saying America, it is not.

" In the end, we'll stick together to defend ourselves…we always do, whether we like each other or not! It's what we "ugly" Americans do!

Posted By Kay, Las Vegas, NV : October 9, 2007 7:40 pm

Your joking, right? No...this is what YOU ugly americans do...ruin it for all of us.....

Of course people want to come here especially with politicians like Rudy who want to exploit people for cheap labor and save the corporations (whose lobbyists outnumber the actual politicians in Washington) money. Immigration laws be damned! C'mon in and we'll give you free healthcare, free education, free food & shelter etc etc. Oh never mind those tax paying citizens who bear the financial burden of our broken borders. This man is a complete moron and if he is voted for president, forget the financial capital of the world moving to London, I'm moving to London.

In response to the comment above, how can one confuse "democratic" and "unpatriotic"? Disagreeing with the Republican ideals does not make one a Democrat. And, though I do not claim any party affiliation, a lot of the Democratic candidates have stronger, more grounded arguments than the Republican candidates do. Give me ONE sound argument that ONE Republican candidate has given, and I will listen.

While I disagree with Guliani on most social issues, I agree with him on the 2 most paramount issues of our time: Terrorism and protecting our borders.

In addition, contrary to the many whiners on these message boards, I believe that America is a source of goodness in the world.

Giuliani shows short-sighted selfishness towards his wives, his children and again towards America with the wonderful "constitutional" murder of the line-item veto. So he got NYC 200 million back at the expense of putting back 200 trillion waste back into the government. And we're supposed to cheer because hey, he defeated Clinton...yes and every other president and taxpayer thereafter. Moron.

I've traveled the world and seen alot the hate Rudy references. Guess what, most of it is rooted in envy and spread through a bias media.

Reading the posts here, its easy to see why people get democrat confused with unpatriotic.

That's the "good ole boy" club talking again. How many times must we subject ourselves to their lunacy? All they want is money and power, at OUR EXPENSE, and they (Bush, Guiliani, Romney, etc.) will say anything to get America to listen to them, even if they don't believe what they themselves are saying. The saddest part is most of you guys do listen. America, we really need to start listening to reason. If more than half the country is against the war, and someone running for president is trying to keep us there, DON'T PUT HIM IN OFFICE. Intelligent thinkers are what we need, rather than people pleasers. Sorry folks, but we've really messed up for the past so-and-so years, and it's time that we start to fix our own mess.

I am from South America,I legally came to The USA because it is a GREAT country with great people.Certainly America is powerful and copied.You are a role model for other countries, and people look up to role models. There is nothing wrong if other countries want to copy your good things.I think Americans must be proud of this instead of bothered, but please don't allow this power convert America into a bully. I'm sure most Americans don't want this. Arrogant attitudes like Giulianni's creates tension among the International Community. America is not the only country in the earth. Don't isolate yourself from the rest of the world. A position like Giulianni's will never allow Americans find the peace and tranquility they want. America needs a Leader that could be able to unite not a one that divides.

Rudy has some points,,,Democrats and the left want to BLAME AMERICA FIRST for everything...I mean these people would rather throw Bush in jail then Bin Laden,,The left have lost all sense of reality and thank God the GROWN-UPs are making the tough decisions in the White House...

For once, this joker is right. Try traveling anywhere, and you'll agree. However, there are "leaders" at all levels of our government who want to take away our freedom, erase our borders, dissolve our sovereignty, and reduce "the rest of us" and our standards of living to the level of every other pawn in the Third World.

Have you ever heard of the New World Order? If these "leaders" have their way, we'll be dressed in gray tunics and standing in line for a loaf of bread, just like the Soviet citizens in the bad old days of the USSR, while they, our "leaders" are living it up in their mansions and country clubs.

Don't be fooled. "They" can't be trusted.

This is the kind of crap talking politicians should avoid, even if they think it. This makes us look arrogant in the eyes of the world, as if we don't care what people think and we can do whatever the heck we want. This is the wrong thinking.

He must live in looloo land or in a distant past. That kind of nationalistic talk does not do well with public figures in the highly global exchanges of today.

This kind of comments just prove how unfit people like Rudy are for the US Presidency. Humility is more attractive than Arrogance. The common American is humble and THAT makes this country great. People like Rudy just screw that image up.

Rudy's comment shows his age..that's an outdated way of thinking and expressing things...AMERICA IS THE GREATEST!!!!WE'RE THE BEST!!!..Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!..scary that this guy could become president..really scary...

On a side note, when asked how many contries there were in the world, Rudy said "That's a no-brainer: five!. USA, Mexico, UK, Iran and Iraq".

What an idiotic, narrow minded rant that was from Rudy. I would think the USA gets a lot of flak from around the world (and not just from the middle east) because of it's horrendous foreign policy gaffes (let me not even start on WHO first funded and armed likes of Bin Laden, Saddam, the Taliban, etc).

Generally the world has no problem with the common American on the street (although how you people managed to vote in George W twice was astounding – and can only mean a vast majority of the citizenry are blinkered and brainwashed)

Rudy america's Mayor??? Puh-lease that's more insulting to Americans than one of Bin Laden's crazed videos.

Amen Rudy! No matter how many of our own citizens and those of other countries want to spin it negatively, try traveling abroad, at length…I have and what have I discovered? Go to any country and you can bet they have something in their culture that is derived from the good old USA.

Oh, look. American self-centric narcissism rears its ugly head again in the name of a failed, civil-lberties reducing mayor whose arrogance is only matched by Napoleon. Imagine that.

Let's try to remember the kind of Mayor Rudy was BEFORE 9/11, shall we? You know, the kind that whined about individual rights getting in the way and freedom being an impediment.

That's a good message. Don't screw it up just for cheap fundraising.

Please donate $9.11 to support Rudy! LOL

you pundits are all with bush.so old news.i think he has demetia.no clue on America your right Matt.he is an idiot.he wont win new york he didn't even help them liar dream on.those firefighters cant stand him.

Dream On Rip.

Who are they? Could you give us a few names?

Hey Rudy, we are all pro-America but some of us are anti-Bush, Iraq war and bullying creeps like you!!!

Rudy's way of governing is by being a mini dictator, it's his way or the highway. Ask any of us who lived through his term as mayor. If it hadn't been for 9/11 Rudy couldn't have been elected dog catcher, let alone run for president. Ask the NYPD and the NYFD what they think of "America's mayor".

Giuliani, travel to asia, look at the polls in political science and foreign affair journals; america is hated, distrusted and misunderstood....even Ron Paul knows that.

Commendable as Giuliani's confidence in America is, the world's view of us couldn't be any more different.

Giuliani: America is the "go-to guy." America is attractive, envied.

Rest of the world (between uncontrollable fits of laughter): America is a warmongering nation. Merely saying "America" makes us laugh. I cannot believe we once held them as our superiors! Now we hold the upper hand in civilized society!

I guess Mr. Giuliani doesn't realize that there are a lot of people who don't really care for what's going on in the United States of American today. It probably hasn't occurred to him that this presidential election race, and these clown-like candidates running for office, exemplify what's wrong with our country. Guiliani, more than anyone else, should understand that if our country were so attractive, so envied, we wouldn't have people flying planes into our office towers.

I disagree somewhat with Rudy's assessment that people from other countries all want to come to the US. I think that people from third world countries do want to come here. Mostly because there are more opportunities here, but I think they reluctantly leave for various reasons.

By and large, people from Europe for example, are happy in the countries where they reside. Furthermore, European countries are seeing a large influx of immigrants from Africa and the Middle East.

I think Rudy should be careful with his choice of words. Just because we are a big power in the world, doesn't mean that we need to be arrogant about it. This is why Americans are sometimes vilified because we think we are the best in everything that we do. Don't get me wrong, we've done a lot of wonderful things in this world, but we need to realize in this global era, we are also not without our own problems too. Believe it or not, other countries do survive without copying everything that the US does.

No one envies the US anymore, sorry. 8 years of Bush have taken care of that. In fact, just last week, the Canadian dollar officially became worth more than an American dollar. If you don't believe me, check the financial markets.

Any friend of Joe Torre should not be President...Rudy is a grand-standing fear monger...c'mon America do you really wanna trust him to be in charge of anything outside of Thug NYC cops?

"I don't care if they bash us all over the world. What country do they most want to come to? What country do they most want to copy?” Giuliani said. “[T]he United States of America.”

And this is who some want to be president???

Here is one proud Canadian who does not envy the United States nor does she want my country to be like them. I believe that I live in a more democratic gov't with a more stable economy, and a less indebted country. I can wear my maple leaf anywhere in the world.

That's a good message. Don't screw it up just for cheap fundraising.

It won't be if Giuliani becomes president and implements his policies.

Interesting caption to the photo: "Rudy Giuliani, sometimes referred to as 'America's mayor' was very pro-America during Tuesday's debate."

I guess stating meaningless platitudes about the U.S., pretending that serious problems don't exist, and criticizing efforts to help American citizens makes one "pro-America" (at least according to the brilliant minds that write the photo captions at CNN.com).

I suggest the following caption instead: "Rudy Guiliani, sometimes referred to as a 'major league charlatan' was very dishonest during Tuesday's debate." It's about as fair and balanced as the caption that exists now.

This guy is living in a dreamworld. This simpleton acts like we don't owe China the next three generations of Americans' taxes, just because we needed to borrow money for a useless war in Iraq. Financial, the United States of America is in RUIN.

how could you print the trivial, chest pumping americona.. no substance, with the costs, inflation, war, were in for a soviet style crash... with our dollar worthless, stop pushing yesterdays hero, 9-11 or a new 9-11 won't make him president.
Dr. Ron Paul is real, and can win
The nation needs him to win

Amen Rudy! No matter how many of our own citizens and those of other countries want to spin it negatively, try traveling abroad, at length...I have and what have I discovered? Go to any country and you can bet they have something in their culture that is derived from the good old USA. You can go most anywhere and the population will know something of the US, even if it's just our pop culture, which they are amazingly interested in...not many countries can say that. Love to hate us? Yes they do! Want to be us? You betcha!
Bash away US haters, inside and outside of our country. In the end, we'll stick together to defend ourselves...we always do, whether we like each other or not! It's what we "ugly" Americans do!

He has no idea what is going on.

"No how, no way!"

Way to ignore the question, man!

Rudy's comment was assinine. Of course alot of people want to come here because it's starting to turn into a free for all. People are coming everyday and alot of them are probably sleeper cells. People from Mexico are also coming everyday. They all tell their friends go to America it's run by idiots! Stop by NY and get your free license. No proof nescessary!

A lot of people have been dumping the US dollar over the last several years. Hence the free falling dollar. Does that sound like a vote of confidence?