Dr. Paul was correct in asserting that the 19 thugs had nothing to do with Iraq.

Iraq was in NO WAY involved in 9/11. Nor was Iran. Even Afghanistan and Pakistan had little to do with it.

The terrorists were overwhelmingly from Saudi Arabia, and also from Syria, Lebanon, and the United Arab Emirates. It was planned in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, and the US. I suppose we should bomb all of the aforementioned?

We should also bomb Oklahoma because of Timothy McVeigh.

Organized IN a country doesn't mean it was organized BY a country. And if Guiliani is going to lay blame on Pakistan, why isn't he saying we should invade Pakistan instead of Iran?

Iraq and Iran still have nothing to do with 9/11.

Hate to say it, but Ron Paul's absolutely right in this case. It wasn't a military action; it was 19 suicidal criminals who got lucky.

Just wait,there's 911 conspirator sitting in the Hague right now. When he cracks and spills the beans on who paid Bin Laden,the whole ball of wax will come apart. A smart candidate would stay far away from 911. At least until somebody knocks Taylor off. Rudy is smart though to distance himself from Taylor's partner,Pat Robertson.

Ron Paul - doesn't think America has EVER been under an imminent attack.

- Pearl Harbor
- Cuban Missile Crisis
- Cold War threats
- 9/11

Yeah - no other country has ever sought to harm or threaten the US. If you believe this - and think we should eliminate the FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, bring all US soldiers serving abroad (Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, Japan, S.Korea, etc), and legalize drugs…. VOTE RON PAUL.

For the rest of America (that HASN'T destroyed brain cells through smoking pot) - understand Ron Paul is a libertarian attempting to disguise himself as a Republican.

RON is just wrong.

Too many Americans are ignorant of US foreign policy, especially in the Middle East. Therefore, Guiliani can state these ridiculous assertions and promote the cause for war. When will America feel safe? When every muslim nation has been bombed into oblivion?

It would be nice if CNN could do it's job and present some factual information. Here's a couple that stand out:

1953 Operation Ajax: CIA and British MI6 successfully orchestrate the removal of democratically-elected Iranian prime minister Mohammed Mossadegh, and installs the Shah as dictator.

1968 — Iraq. The C.I.A. successfully supports coup in Iraq against the government of Rahman Arif to bring the Ba'ath Party to power, with Saddam Hussein eventually taking the helm.

For more info see Wikipedia:

List of United States military history events

Once again, anytime Rudy can bring up 9/11, he will, even if it is totally irrelevant or if he actually needs to rewrite history a little in order to make his point. Was the US under an imminent threat from an attack from a country on 9/11? SURE, it must have been organized by a couple arab countries, not individuals in a terrorist organization. Oh, and never mind most of the attackers were actually from Saudia Arabia.
Paul is the only candidate on either side who does not have to rewrite history with his explanation of his policies.

"Well, I think it was kind of organized"…??

Well, Giuliani, you sure do have 100% proof!

I kind of maybe think I won't vote for you.

Ron Paul is right. Giuliani is just pandering and trying to score a soundbite .

Guiliani is a very ignorant person to say the least. 911 was a result of our interference in the middle east. Hatred towards Americans by the radical Islamist is due mostly to our involvement with Israel due to it's affect towards Palestinians and our constant involvement in affairs in that area, from the Shah of Iran, to supporting Bin Ladin himself. Those who don't get the big picture are surely ignorant and have no business running our country. No, Iraq had nothing to do with 911 and we should never have attacked it. That only furthered the fire and is why Al Qaeda, who was not in Iraq when we attacked, is now there killing our men. What a complete mess. obviously, I don't agree with a terrorist's ideology and means of violence, but we do have to understand, we are not fighting countries with terrorism, we are fighting extremists who are located worldwide.

Wow, Rudy bringing up September 11th to make an argument, what a surprise! And Rudy, I thought you were THE expert on September 11th since you talk about it so much, you aren't sure where they came from? Hello, 15 of the 19 hijackers where from Saudi Arabia. Also hitting a target in Afghanistan or Pakistan wouldn't have made a difference since none of the hijackers were there right before the attack. Gawd Rudy really needs a history lesson and anyone listening to this idiot really needs to get their news from more sources than those on TV.

Rudy the "one-trick-pony" is partially correct. It was planned somewhat in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It was also planned here since the hijackers spent plenty of time moving about the US. When he says "As someone who lived…" I'm surprised he didn't say he was right there as the planes hit, going into the towers and pulling survivors out 3 at a time. The guy will never stop milking this one issue.

Ron Paul 1, Guiliani 0

ron paul is right
Guiliani is a moron
why are we in iraq then

I don't agree with Ron Paul on all issues, but he's obviously correct about this. Anyone who chooses to remain an ingorant flag waver and not see the complexities of international policies is a fool. It's about time we had some real discussions about these issues instead of stupid soundbites geared toward the lowest educational level of Americans (which is sadly the largest portion).
Yeah, they hate us for our freedoms. Go shopping. Keep your head in the sand and be a mindless consumer. And wave your flag that was made in Taiwan.

Giuliani makes President Bush look bookish. How messed up is that?

Hey Rudy - "might have helped prevent it." Perhaps you should be honest with yourself and the American people. Try reading; a good place to start learning about how 9/11 could have been prevented would be the story of FBI SSA Dave Frasca who shut down and prevented investigations of several of the terrorist groups operating within the U.S. prior to 9/11.

Americans need to hear the stories of Sibel Edmonds, Colleen Rowley, Tyrone Powers, Kenneth Williams, Robert Wright Jr, and many other FBI, military and intelligence agency professionals instead of just the simplistic and false spin of politicians like Rudy.

Ron Paul is the best hope this nation has for an elected leader.

Organized in Pakistan and Afghanistan? Where has he been? It was organized in the US by 19 individuals at flight schools HERE. What good would being in the middle east have done? Guilliani cut the funding for the radios and assisted in the FDNY anf NYPD deaths because they couldn't communicate clearly. He should be held accountable not a hero!

Great to hear that Giuliani still hasn't read the 9/11 Commission Report or any other real analysis of that attack. How does anyone take Giuliani seriously?

Rudy Giuliani is a criminal of September 11th.
I encourage people to research the myriad times he has been confronted by 9/11 victims family members and others willing to ask him tough questions (aid to resuce workers, faulty radios, location of emergency management center, etc.).
Watch as he refuses to answer, ducks into cars, or laughs away the inquiries, as if they were joking matters at all.
Just search under the terms "Giuliani confronted…"
The man is a criminal. Never forget this. Many New Yorkers, including myself, certainly have not.

Giuliani is an arrogant candidate without any idea of the history of the Middle East and the consequences of our continued involvement over there.

I applaud Paul for standing up to the arrogance and dismissal by Giuliani, especially considering that Ron Paul's actually studied this topic extensively over the years, gaining even the unfettered support of the former head of the Bin Laden unit in the CIA.

Giuliani be better sticking to Mayoral seats than as our President. Imagining him up against Iran is a frightening proposition that he seem all too eager to test. I can only shudder to think of the provocation that would ensue if Giuliani were involved, and that's what makes this War on Terror a danger to every American in this great nation.

Ron Paul has good sense and probably the only Republican that can unite this nation, Giuliani has made so much money off of 911 just for being the mayor, I cant help but wonder how much of his 911 profits has gone to help the 911 victims ? Now he wants to use that platform for not just more profits but to become the next George Bush, sorry but this country could not survive another Bush – go do something safe for our nation and use your own talents like; walking with high heels or something!

most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia…and I don't see Giulliani wanting to invade them over the fact that some of their citizens did the attacks.

Giulliani is a complete idiot when it comes to foreign policy. I don't think he has read the 9/11 commission report yet.

Can there be any doubt as to which between these two has the more brains? And any doubt as to whose 'position' on this issue is more popular with Americans?

I'm embarrassed for my country; we prefer stupid people to smart people.

So it was Afghanistan and Pakistan who attacked us? No, it was an individual terrorist group who planned it. Yes, in a perfect world, Afghanistan and Pakistan could have done more pre-9/11 to deal with this, but remember, Ron Paul supported us going after the Taliban in Afghanistan, and you can't blame the current governments of either country for not being able to hunt for every possible terrorists in these sparsely populated mountainous areas. It's like the Wild West out there. We can't even control those areas when our own soldiers are there, so don't expect them to.

Instead, what we can control, and what is the fiscally responsible thing to do, is changing our foreign policy, and stop trying to police the world, and instead, make our home defense stronger.

The terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Syria, and Lebanon. They planned the attacks in Aghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, and even South Florida. What, so we have bombed all of those countries, and even South Florida? You can't win the hearts and minds of others by occupying their countries, and telling them what to do at gun point, and by accidentally killing their children by our unneeded presence there.

What makes me sickest about Guiliani is that, more than any other Republican, he uses 911 as a sickening photo-op. He seems to think that being mayor at the time it happened gives him some kind of deeper understanding about the reasons for the attack than the millions of other New Yorkers who endured it (most of whom will probably vote for Hillary, btw). Ron Paul is absolutely right on this issue– and the only way to end the cycle of terrorism and violence is to end the oil economy which keeps us so bitterly entangled in a region where our presence is resented.

They don't hate us because we're free– they hate us because we're powerful, and for decades we have projected that power, in our own interest, right into their back yards. If Giuliani or any of the other Republican warmongers is somehow elected, we're just going to perpetuate the conflict.

If only there was a candidate who spoke the truth about 9/11 like Ron Paul and didn't want to do away with our whole government, they would totally have my vote.

Ron Paul once again stands out from the pack (of jackals) cause he talks sense…Rudy is an evil man. Ron Paul wants to save the country not to kill other countries to do it!

I'm glad to see the reasoned position held by Paul getting some media attention. Giuliani sounds like he hasn't touched the reading list Ron Paul offered him after his uninformed comments in the May 23 debate.

Ummmm Ron Paul is right its pretty obvious with that. ANd i wish the democratic party spoke about our being there. ROn paul is right

It was a crime that was never solved officially. However many millions of people worldwide have a very good idea what group of people are responsible. They were the ones who had the means, the opportunity, and the motive. They were also the same parties who benefitted from it. Thank God there are some VIPs in the military who know too. Connect the dots.

Rudy will never win that argument. Ron Paul has had it right since day 1.

Ron Paul just makes sense on foreign policy, monetary policy and protecting our borders. He has my vote regardless of the media's interpretations.

Ron Paul, the only voice of reason on that stage. Of course when you only get asked 4 questions of any sort of substance, that voice can't be heard much. Frudy McRompson need to go away.

As usual, Ron Paul speaks the truth, and nobody in this brianwashed nation wants to listen. We've been intervening in the Middle East since 1953 for oil interests, and now that same group of aristocrats wants to bankrupt our nation protection their own special interests with an unmangable foreign policy that makes our nation less safe by the day. The GOP has it's head up its rear.

Well at least Ron Paul actually speaks the truth, regardless of how much we'd rather not hear it…

Yeah… Giuliani still needs to do some reading… We knew about the threats on 9/11 well before it happened and did nothing about it because of pure stubborness and irresponsibility. I swear, if Giuliani would just open Scheuer's book, he would be forced to never speak another word again. Giuliani should be reminded that there were candlelight vigils in Tehran after 9/11. I guess he does not remember the celebrations in the streets of Saudi Arabia afterwards… they are our friends though.

Gulliani is an actor playing a part. As is Romney, Thompson, etc..Dr. Ron Paul is telling the truth, which we all need to hear, Vote Ron Paul. Investigate 9/11. Seek the truth about what happened that horrible day.

Please, Giuliani, stop saying the words "September 11th". Also, why would hitting some target quickly in Pakistan or Afghanistan stop a terror attack??? And remember, most of the terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. You, sir, are an idiot. Ron Paul, you may be the only chance the Republicans have at not being destroyed in the presidential election; Hillary or not…

Maybe Rep. Paul should have reminded people that before 9-11…it was not uncommon for people to walk the streets of New York City in an "F– Guiliani" T-Shirt….

Paul is correct once again. NONE of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iran. Most were from Saudi Arabia. And they were not representing a country. They were working for Al Qaeda who is independent.

The Doctor is correct again! Rotten
rudy needs to take his lisp back to
private sector. The ex mayor with the least knowledge of Foreign Affairs
than anybody running for office.

Ask the Firefighters / 1st Responders!
Micheal Moore taking them to Cuba for
Healthcare, because according to the gop America has the "best" Healthcare
in the World!

Yeah they are in touch! Pathetic!

Giuliani is an idiot and the Democratic nominees even bash him on his ignorant foreign policy.

Best of all
Ron Paul

Politicians will no longer be able to use fear against us. The trick is up. It's not working anymore.

Dr. Paul is 100% correct.

There is no way that I could vote for Giuliani.

Again Ron Paul had a respectable debate that handed Giuliani who is the biggest idiot on the Republican stage to date.

As far as I can tell, Giuliani only gets brownie points for 9/11 (he seems to have nothing else to work with), and now it's clear he doesn't have a clue as to what really happened then or who was involved.

Ron Paul 2
Rudy 0

Scoreboard.

Ron Paul once again, destroyed the former mayor of new york. How dare the media try to slander and bash him. Ron Paul has my vote, and many MANY more.

As someone who lived through a Ron Paul and Giuliani debate - Giuliani is an idiot, and I've heard some absurd polls that say the rest of the Republicans are as well.

I just don't know what to think about this Ron Paul guy. Where does he get his crazy ideas from? Here is a Congressman who thinks he can slay all the other candidates just by telling the truth, and addressing America's real needs. He continuously holds true to the constitution, which "is nothing more than a god damn peice of paper,"(George W Bush)in my oppinion, proclaiming rights like freedom of speach and privacy; rights that most American's abuse and should have taken away from them by their representative leaders, for the benifit of society. He thinks we should drag our feet by getting the "go ahead" from congress, whose main job is to keep checks and balences in government, instead of giving all the power to the president, "The Disider". Now thats just stupid! He dosen't like tourture, which can be used effectivly get vital information out of terrorists, but may also make our troops subject to the same treatments, but the Gineva conventions are so WWII anyway. He wants to destroy our monitary system, which since it's establish has done nothing but strengthen our dollars buying power, and replacing it with a new currency just because it's debt free to our government, and won't allow so called private bankers to manipulating our economy. He basically wants to give to the "have nots" the very people who we walk on everyday and who make it so easy to be an American. Dosen't he realize we depend on six year old boys in China to create the low cost sales at our local WalMarts? Ron Paul, I've got a foriegn policy for you.. we bomb first, destabalize the region second, and take everything for ourselves always, then we build our homes off the blood of others, and as long as we keep taking them out, they'll never come to America trying to harm us for our freedoms!

Before Bush leaves office, we are going to attack Iran! We will bomb the bejesus out of Theran!

After that, all of the sheep in this country are going to vote for a cantidate that has been talking about taking it to Iran the whole time, which are: Rudy, Mitt, John, Fred, Hilary, Obama, etc….

RON PAUL is the answer people! Wake up and seek information!

Read everything you can.
Google "Nuclear attack, they talk about bombing Iran every day! Multiple times!
Google Rudy Knew, and see what he knew on that day, he was told the towers were coming down. His specially fortified, terror proof command bunker was on the 23rd and 24th floors of the 49 story Building 7 that collapsed on 9/11 at 5:30 pm, but he set up shop elswhere….WHY?…Because he was in on it folks, he KNEW building 7 was coming down, even though it was not hit by a plane! HE KNEW! How anyone could seriously consider casting a single vote for Rudy is beyond imagineable…

My country tis' of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing…….

Ron Paul, the Constitution of the United States of America, WE THE PEOPLE, don't let the machine hijack another presidency.

In two years,no one will remeber Ron Paul's name.

I am glad to see Ron Paul was so passionate in speaking out against this war. I only wish the leading Democrats have this clarity in their head and are this passionate about it.

I'm starting to become more and more afraid of those candidates… they sound like crazy dictators, without reason.

Except for Ron Paul of course.

WHY ater all this time do some still say a country was responsible for the actions of so few …

hmmm … never mind … the desires of a few in our country are responsible for the crimes against humanity :-(including legal residents and citizens) done in the name of democracy (and God ~ gotta remember that ~ will sanity return? )-:

Paul is right. Most people do not want to understand the consequences of the goverment actions around the world. Look at Switzerland for example, why is she not being attact?. Oh, I forgot the military industrial complex. We need to fight more wars to build more military hardware which will create jobs and make some people rich. Or is the other way around? either way, the uninform public is scam into believing that the people hit American values and way of life.

Jon, you're just wrong. First of all, Pearl Harbor was not an imminent attack, it was a *surprise* attack. Are you suggesting we should have bombed the Japanese before we even suspected they were going to attack us?

Neither was the Cuban Missile Crisis an imminent attack; if you really think it is you need to study MAD a little more. As history shows, it was maneuvering by the USSR, nothing more.

Finally, 9/11 was not only not an imminent attack (another surprise attack), but it wasn't even organized by any nation! The perpetrators of 9/11 WERE thugs, just as Ron Paul declared, and should be dealt with using police action, not state warfare.

Ron Paul has my vote - he's the only sane one up there!

Gosh, I guess Rudy never got to his reading list…for shame.

Rudy is essential to throwing the theocrats out. While I don't think he'd win or do the best job,he'd be better than any godhead. As a democrat,I'll stand up and say he deserves our support for his efforts to bring sanity (relative) to his party. Even in the longshot chance that he became president,I don't think it would be as bad as you people fear. We were allowed to bash Rudy back then,unlike the atmosphere of tyranny that the theocrats imposed under bush. So hands off the godhead slayer.Go Rudy!

Ron Paul seems to be the best man in the GOP side.

Giuliani, on the other hand…..what a narrow-minded guy.

Check this out Rudy, if an American gang made a terrorist attack in Canada or Mexico, would those countries be entitled to bomb US?

Well I think I've heard enough. Fred should've stayed in bed. McCain wanted everything repeated again. Mitt needs lawyers to help him ruin stuff. Rudy as usual portrayed himself as a Fooliani.

Dr. Ron Paul annihilated them all with a few words he said more than they did with ten times the air given. Thank God for Ron Paul and God have mercy on America if we do not elect him.

Paul is right. Never has America needed preemptive war to stave off an attack that hasn't happened yet. Until Iraq that is. The 220 year period Paul spoke of is completely accurate. Giuliani symbolizes with clarity why the republican party is collapsing.

Ron Paul got it right in pointing out that 911 was organised by 19 thugs and not by Governments, 911 was irrelevent to the original question.

However I think Ron Paul didn't go far enough in his rebuttal. After Rudy mentioned that it was organised in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Ron Paul should have pointed out that there is a complete difference between in a country and BY A COUNTRY! Rudy's comments are akin to bombing the White House to stop the unabomber.

Besides Ron Paul voted in favour of going after Al Qaeda, and then we promptly dumped that idea in favour of going into Iraq. Meanwhile Al Qaeda and Osama are still out there.

"Frudy McRompson!" I love it!

What amazes me is Guiliani was told by a Saudi Arabian prince with a 10 million dollar check in hand at the twin towers rubble, "foreign policy" caused this. And the FEDS say it was 16 Saudis, and the FEDS say virtually all the suicde bombings in Iraq are Saudis? Is Rudy really that ignorant to blame Iraq and now Iran? Why not advocate bombing Saudi Arabia? I know its as ridiculous as what we are doing now. Those 4 clowns are not Republicans, they are CFR globalists intent on deceiving the sheople to accomplish their own goals.

9/11 was horrible, but Ron Paul is right about the possible motives for its occurrence. I admire his guts for saying this. People like Rudy only watch Fox News. Rudy's never tried BBC apparently. We're really liked around the world, NOT.

Why is Guliani even still in this race? He is a one trick pony { 911/terrorist/911} profiteer who over and over embarrases himself with his lack of the level of knowlege needed to rise from a mediocre mayor to the leader of the free world. Ann

Some argue that we were in danger of imminent attack in the past. Well, yes but mostly no. Pearl harbor- we knew about it but never really did anything to prevent it. Moreover, the mainland was never threatened.

As for the Cuban missile crisis, there was never really any danger. I think both leaders at the time knew that it would be stupid to have a nuclear attack on one another.

Cold war crisis? Huh? It was just that a cold war. No attacks ever occurred.

9/11- Yup, Dr. Paul is right. 19 thugs are responsible in the name of Al Qaeda according to the 9/11 commission. And they are from different countries. If one wants to argue that the Taliban was harboring Al Qaeda- then how is it that or same government gave them $40,000,000 in May 2000 knowing they were keeping Bin Laden and his camps as a guest.

If you are smart enough, you'll read through all the nonsense these politicians throw at you.

Regardless, the chance we have with honestly is Dr. Paul.

The best way to prevent the "immanent" attack on 9/11 would have been to deny the 19 boxcutter wielders visas. The Neocon "INVADE THE WORLD; INVITE THE WORLD" strategy might be a good one for Israel's security but not for the US's.

The Cuban missile crisis and Cold War threats were not attacks. As to the attack on Pearl Harbor, it doesn't qualify as "immanent" unless someone in the US gov't had advance knowledge. Hmmm.

Likely 1000 unflattering adjectives could describe just how defficient Giuliani is, but they can be all summed up by the word frightening. And
"Jimmy4truefreedom", your rambling post indeed sounds like a good case to support someone like Ron Paul…it was indeed tongue-in-cheek, wasn't it?

Hey Ron Paul Supporters we know there are really only about 4 of you on here and you are using different names….Oldest trick in the book,,Ron PAUL is a LOSER and his ideas, of blaming America first is not going to fly with 80% of Americans. RUDY just bent him over with no vasoline. RUDY DOMINATED RU PAUL,…..

As Dr. Paul Noted in another interview;
"If the Mafia kills some people in the U.S. you don't invade Italy."

So it was Afghanistan and Pakistan who attacked us? No, it was an individual terrorist group who planned it. Yes, in a perfect world, Afghanistan and Pakistan could have done more pre-9/11 to deal with this, but remember, Ron Paul supported us going after the Taliban in Afghanistan, and you can't blame the current governments of either country for not being able to hunt for every possible terrorists in these sparsely populated mountainous areas. It's like the Wild West out there. We can't even control those areas when our own soldiers are there, so don't expect them to.

Instead, what we can control, and what is the fiscally responsible thing to do, is changing our foreign policy, and stop trying to police the world, and instead, make our home defense stronger.

The terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Syria, and Lebanon. They planned the attacks in Aghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, and even South Florida. What, so we have bombed all of those countries, and even South Florida? You can't win the hearts and minds of others by occupying their countries, and telling them what to do at gun point, and by accidentally killing their children by our unneeded presence there.

"Well, I think it was kind of organized in Afghanistan and Pakistan," Giuliani said.

Ok, so by that 3rd grade level reasoning, we should be going to war with our own country when Timothy McVeigh "organized" the attack in Oklahoma? How stupid does Rudy think the american people are anyway?

Rudy get the vote of the scared little american sucking his thumb in the corner, worried about the next attack on our country. Ron Paul gets the vote of the american who values his freedom over big daddy government providing security at the cost of liberty.

Simple choice if you ask me.

Ron Paul 2008

They keep throwing around the word "Pakistan", a lot like they were throwing around the word "Iraq" a few years ago. I wonder if they think that they can convince us that Pakistan is Iraq, kind of like Iraq was afghanistan.

Giuliani is just going to perpetuate this rediculous, unending "war on terror" and continue the bush legacy. Ron Paul is my only hope of not being drafted.

Once again, Paul is correct. Rudy is a freaky crossdresser who is loathed by the honorable NYFD and most of the 9/11 victims. Paul had the guts to bring up 9/11, Rudy's holy grail platform (and his answer to EVERYTHING), and he got jumped on by an arrogant fascist who scares the hell out of me.

Bush has admitted himself Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. This is common knowledge. Rudy is way out of touch with anything but Neo-con propaganda, and doesn't really know anything about reality, except how to say "9/11″ and use this tragic event for his greedy campaign.

Rudy makes me sick.

Go Ron Paul!

US more likely expected a surprise attack in the Philippines than Pearl Harbor.

Further the hijackers planned part of the attack in Germany. Then flew to meetings in the Indonesia, may have been in Prague, lived down the street from the CIA and live in Laurel Maryland and drove by the entrance of the NSA a day before the attack.

I never met a real life person or online who supports/likes Rudy. I don't get how he is high on the polls. One thing is sure that he is a moron.

Guliani needs to read something. If 9/11 had to do with Afghanistan and Pakistan..why did we attack Iraq?

Giuliani doesn't seem to understand that he is running for the nomination for President of the United States, not President of September 11th.

I'm ready for Ron Paul our Government now is totally disfunctional.We need fresh ideas.And many policy changes.Don't think he could make things any worse than they have been the past 7+ years.Lets get realistic about things folks.

The "blame America first" crowd believe that our actions caused 09/11/2001.

I am willing to listen to that argument, and I will not filibuster. However, I do have some questions:

(1) What did America do to cause the American Embassy to be attacked and the occumpants held hostage for 444 days between 11/1979 and 01/1981 ?

(2) What did America do to provoke 200+ marines murdered by a suicide attack in Beirut in 1983 ?

(3) On 09/11/2001, what did the flight attendants, pilots, and American civilian passengers do on those fateful flights to deserve to have their throats slashed?

The terrorists are completely intolerant of anyone who is not exactly like themselves. Rudy Guliani was knighted by England's Queen Elizabeth for his heroic actions on 09/11/2001, and deservedly so.

Ron Paul is an isolationist who completely misunderstands the War on Terror.

The biggest problem Ron Paul has is trying to explain intellectual/logical positions to border-line retarded people. 1/3 of American adults can't read above a 5th grade level - no wonder Rudy and Romney are so high in the polls…

RON PAUL 2008!

He's the best candidate for President!

This man just makes sense!

I just started really looking at the candidates, but Ron Paul certainly seems to be the standout among the republicans. He is the only one who seems to look beyond the popular catch phrases like "They'll follow us home" and he understands why they really hate us: our foreign policy. It really made me angry that they didn't give Paul more time to express his ideas, since he was the only one who seemed to have good ones. I have never voted Republican, but I am going to do my own due diligence since the media seems to be trying to silence the only voice of reason in the debates.

I'm not a Republican, but I must say I completely agree with Paul's statements.

Ron Paul is right again. Guiliani must be the most ignorant person EVER to run for president. To ignore the 9/11 commission and all the other evidence about the terrorist attacks is juvenile, reckless, and personally fatalistic. Ron Paul is the only one who understands these issues and offers a real hope for America.
Ron Paul 2008!

ATTN Ron Paul: Cuban Missile Crisis? Pearl Harbor? Heard of them? Stop the BS'ing to get attention.

Would Guiliani attack a country because he "think(s)" an attack upon America was "kind of" organized by ? That shows sheer stupidity. And if he gets it wrong, he'll "kind of" apologize to the country we attack?

If he has never heard it said that "we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq (yes, even during Clinton's 'reign')," he's never heard bin Laden's rationalization for the attack, he hasn't read much, and he certainly doesn't deserve to be President.

I love the US, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that we as a nation never make mistakes and never make enemies. That attitude is arrogance, not patriotism, and it's the kind of thinking that does indeed make enemies.

Ron Paul is right and Rudy is an arrogant, self-serving idiot.

So Ron Paul says that America has never been under imminent attack?

Perhaps he needs to do his homework. How about the hundreds of thousands of Native Americans who were murdered under US government policy in the 18th, 19th and part of the 20th Century?

I guess he means that WHITE America has never been under imminent attack.

Hey… Ron Paul has a good point.

Rye, Austin ~ Tx, wrote:

"Jon, you're just wrong. First of all, Pearl Harbor was not an imminent attack, it was a *surprise* attack. Are you suggesting we should have bombed the Japanese before we even suspected they were going to attack us?

Neither was the Cuban Missile Crisis an imminent attack; if you really think it is you need to study MAD a little more. As history shows, it was maneuvering by the USSR, nothing more.

Finally, 9/11 was not only not an imminent attack (another surprise attack), but it wasn't even organized by any nation! The perpetrators of 9/11 WERE thugs, just as Ron Paul declared, and should be dealt with using police action, not state warfare."

—-

Rye,

So you want to play semantics over "imminent" attack and "surprise" attack??

You, by supporting Ron Paul, rather us go back to sleep so ALL the attacks could be "surprise" attacks??

You then want to suggest the Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't anything other than "manuevering by the USSR"? Yeah - what's the big deal of the Soviets having nuclear missiles 90 miles off our southern border?! Yeah… it wasn't a big deal… I have no idea why they would call it a CRISIS.

9/11 wasn't a State sponsored attack, but it was an act of terrorism put together by organizations (Bin Laden, Al Qaeda, etc) that continue plotting the death of Americans or any country/people disagreeing with their Islamic extremist views (UK, Spain, etc).

Bottom line - VOTE Ron Paul if you prefer to close your eyes and pretend no one wishes the US any harm. Take another hit off the bong in honor of Ron Paul who wants to legalize drugs.

Ron Paul will never win the Republican nomination. He is not a Republican. He is a Libertarian desperate for attention.

Keep clucking Ron Paul disciples. Your political days are numbered.

Sternberg, I voted for Ron Paul for President in 1988. I supported him then and I can support him now. Twenty years from now, I can guarantee you that I will remember him.

Jon of Sacramento, why don’t you grab yourself several nice cold beers and a couple of shots. After all, the legal drug alcohol is completely safe. No one has ever died from it. No domestic disputes have been caused by it, and I can walk into any bar and find rational, thoughtful people who are in control of their actions and emotions.

By the way, how has your neo-con paradise turned out? Do you feel safer and freer now than you did in 1980? Just ask the rest of us how WE feel.

Again Ron Paul is corerct and Giuliani is wrong, 19 guys mostly from Saudi Arabia commited a terrorist attack, noa government, not a country. maybe he also wants to go and kill chavez, Giuliani is a joke living out of the pain of 911, someone should sue him for mental suffering and pain.

So, Mr. Paul, America has never been in danger of imminent attack?

Talk to any Native American who lost relatives to the genocide inflicted upon them by the US government in the 18th and 19th centuries.

You will get a different answer from them.

Thomas,I you don't understand what Ron Paul is trying to tell folks,shame on you your the one that is confused.What was our Marines doing in Beirut to start with??I had a friend that was in those barracks when they blew,he wonders why he was there.He still has nightmares from that day.

Hey John you need to pay closer attention,Ron Paul did vote to go in to Afghanistan'But Bush didn't complete the mission and went right into Iraq,please pay attention.

"As someone who lived through the attack of September 11″

What does he mean by this? he was no where near the trade center when it was actually attacked. Is he just trying to imply he was alive when it happened? In that case Ron Paul lived thorugh it too.

Thomas,

To answer your questions:

1) The Iranian revolution and the taking of hostages was blowback from the 1953 coup by the CIA in which the democratically elected leader of Iran was ousted and we installed the shah, an oppressive dictator.
2) The suicide attacks, which were horrible and extremely wrong, were caused because of the fact that we had marines in Beirut.
3) The 9/11 commission report and the CIA tell us that we were attacked because of 1) support for Israel, 2) Constant bombing of Iraq, 3) Meddling in the affairs of Middle Eastern governments and supporting oppressive Regimes (saudi arabia, for example, which is why 15 of the hijackers were from that country).

Obviously, these reactions to our foreign policy are completely awful, but the fact remains that the middle east feels threatend by us and will continue to fight until we change our foreign policy and dismantle our empire.

We are fighting a war against an insurgency, not a 'war on terror.' In the words of Dr. Paul, ""The catch-all phrase, 'War on Terrorism,' in all honesty, has no more meaning than if one wants to wage a war against criminal gangsterism. It’s deliberately vague and non definable to justify and permit perpetual war anywhere, and under any circumstances."

WE ARE NOT BEING ATTACKED FOR WHO WE ARE, BUT RATHER WHAT WE DO IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Furthermore, it isn't blame america first, we have to blame our foreign policy.

The people who criticize Ron Paul are people who only get their information from television. You cannot take the opinions of television analysts as fact. This isn't a popularity contest, it's our future! Do yourself a favor and actually do research on Ron Paul before you open your mouth and criticize him. Please!

Check out Ron Paul's face - dude looks like a halloween jack-o-lantern. I hope the Republicans nominate this baffoon - it would be the easiest election since Clinton v. Dole!

Imminent threat is a standard criterion in international law, developed by Daniel Webster, for when the need for action is "instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." So for all the people crying about the Cuban Missile Crisis and Pearl Harbor, etc. etc. you mean to tell me that there was no time to think it over and formulate a solution without getting thousands of troops killed? Didn't we use negotiation to end the Cuban Missile crisis? Looks like Ron Paul was right after all. Iran does not pose an Imminent Threat to us! That was what the argument was about!

Ron Paul is correct in his statement to Giuliani. He seems to be objective but patriotic. It's about time US changed its policy of dictatorship. Ron Paul for President!

It makes me sick to see people attack someone who speaks the truth. The only people I have seen attack Dr. Paul in this forum have nothing to say but unfounded insults and name calling. Dr. Paul makes the most sense, and is the greatest hope for this nation. I am democrat who believes there is a place for government services in some cases, but Dr. Paul is the best candidate to balance our government the way it should be. I sincerely hope he wins the republican nomination, because I would seriously consider switching parties just to vote for him for president. He is truly the only small government candidate in a field of supposedly small government candidates.

On this one issue Rep. Paul is right. It is our bullying and meddling that has gotten us into the mess that is the middle east. Most of the 9/11 terrorists came from Saudi Arabia not Iraq.

This country has a lot of trouble learning from its mistakes.

I think…wow….they are typing this and believing it too….then I think I should say x and they will become "informed" - yet….this is not a political discussion - its more of a religious debate….faith based…facts aside…put it this way…and maybe you can relate…if the mafia hires a hitman to kill someone - who is accountable - the hitman…or the mafia…or both….in this case…the hitmen were killed…the mafia…is being hunted down…and held accountable…(after the Sopranos…Mafia analogies work so well…don't they?)

What's this? Mr. "9/11″ Giuliani doesn't even know where the attackers came from. Or where they trained? Should we attack Florida? Because that's where they learned how to fly planes. Considering Giuliani has collected millions using 9/11 you would think he'd have the facts. I never even had Ron Paul on my radar until now but he definitely nailed it on this one. Do I believe we deserved what we got on 9/11? Absolutely not! But did the Iraqi civilians deserve what they got when we bombed them because of 9/11? NO! We need to start taking some responsibility for our actions in the Middle East. Hopefully Ron Paul will get more air time now. Doubt it though. The only ones that seem to matter to the media are Hillary, Obama, Giuliani & Romney.

Ron Paul has the views of Paul Revere. He thinks the next attack on America will come by pirates in wooden ships.

Nothing imminent happening. Let's close down the FBI, CIA, and homeland security. If anything DOES become imminent - we'll be able to see them coming on the horizon with my trusty telescope!

Ron Paul - 18th Century thinking!

The closest we've been to an immediate attack is Pearl Harbor, though we did have several sources telling us of the incoming Japanese forces. FDR would have been justified in setting up defenses around Hawaii and engage if the Japanese don't turn back. But he would have had to go to Congress if he wanted to strike back at Japan.

Someone, for some reason, brought up the Cuban Missile Crisis. I don't recall Kennedy dropping bombs on Cuba to resolve the issue. Paul's point is that, realistically, we're not going to have some nail-biting, "the bombers are incoming, can we engage!?" situation. And in such a situation, the President obviously has a right to take action. But he can't bomb and invade Iran because, some day, Iran might get weapons which it might sell off to terrorists who might in turn sneak them into the US. That's not an imminent threat, and the Congress should declare war.

John from Sacremento, first of all, Ron Paul has never stated that America has never been under a threat of an attack. (and if he has, and i'm honestly asking, give me the quotation, when and where he said it) But lemme ask you a quick question that I ask to most people who think that Iraq had something to do with 9/11. Do you think a country is safer with it's military at home, building the country's defenses and preparing to stop another attack, or do you beleive that it is best for a country if it's military is stretched completely thin in god knows how many different countries fighting preemptive wars and involving itself in business that it has nothing to do with? (i.e. civil wars) Honestly, it amazes me how littel common sense people have. "Hmm…I think my country is safer now that our military is overseas and if there ever was an attack in this country (god forbid) they wouldn't be able to stop it or be home fast enough to protect us." I'm not trying to be disrespectful bro, but seriously, if you're not military you should join, because we're missing recruiting goals left and right. So not only is our military overstretched, we're not even going to be able to sustain the level we are at now because we're missing goals left and right. Not only that, WE'RE DISCUSSING ANOTHER PREEMPTIVE WAR!?! I'm sorry, but Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate *Rep. or Dem. (with the exception of Kucinich and Gravel)* that makes sense on this issue. Oh, by the way, he is the only Rep. besides John McCain who has sereved in the military. I could go on for hours, but I'm just gonna stick with that common sense question for now.

To all fifty Ron Paul supporters: you guys must be getting really tired of posting all of that stuff on blogs and voting for him ten thousand times on every internet poll. I know you dream that we will all listen to him one day and say, "Dang! That Ron Paul guy makes sense! Why didn't I realize it before!"

Your time would be better spent buying lotto tickets. Most of us have listened to him and dismissed him as just another Libertarian dingbat. Somebody from the Constitution Party or the Libertarian Party or some other fringe group says the exact same things every election. They get a few protest votes (I voted for Nader once myself), but it just ain't gonna happen guys. Give it up.

"Well, I think it was kind of organized in Afghanistan and Pakistan"

Uh… Rudy, it was also "kind of organized" in America too. Are you saying that we should attack America because it caused 9/11? What a dunce.

Ron's got thought to back his words up. Giuliani's got contrived soundbytes.

paul is just soo much smarter than rudy

Its pretty easy to figure out why America is so screwed up when you read negative comments about Ron Paul.Americans are just plain azz stupid when it come to electing a President.Why do folks seek out punishment.

Once again, Ron Paul demonstrates that he is the most intelligent candidate in this race. He's right on foreign policy, monetary policy, and constitutional theory. It baffles me as to why this man is not the clear favorite to win the whole schbang here.

Fortunately, Ron Paul supporters will continue to grow, his donations…TRUE CAMPAIGN donations from THE PEOPLE…will continue to grow, more comments left by many more individuals who are "getting it" will be left, and this crooked election process will be taken back by us, the people of the United States of America.

Ron Paul will do the right thing.
Ron Paul does the right thing.
Ron Paul speaks for the patriot.

I hate the way the Right uses every opportunity to obscure the truth to make themselves look better… Rudy's "if we had but known…" is pure garbage. When the Bush admin took over, Condi was handed an intelligence report entitled "Bin Laden determined to strike within the U.S. using Planes." Hell, you don't even have to read the report… the title says it all. As I remember her testimoney in front of congress, she didn't bother to read the report but passed it along to somebody else… she really couldn't remember just who it was.

Professor Ron Paul knows history.Giuliani,if he reads Mearsheimer and Walt:THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S.FOREIGN POLICY,will become a better candidate!

You are a fool Terry. There are 123 Ron Paul supporters! I'm sorry, that's just my neighborhood meetup group. Yes, they are all unique and not dopple gangers.

I think I've told you before you eat too much spicy salsa, but now I know you are a fool.

It doesn't really matter to me if you don't understand or want to participate in life. I'm not thinking you have many close friends so you attack those that love "the 18th century".

Even if Ron Paul had 51 supporters, I'd be one of them that voted on Primay Day. I'd rather vote my conscience than have to choose between communism and socialism candidates.

All that matters is we try. If our brothers and sisters like what's coming down the pipe, God speed my friend.

Ron Paul is absolutely correct,"That was 19 thugs," (Muslim thugs of pagan relgion)"That had nothing to do with a country."

Giuliani wants to leave the borders open so more can cross with the Illegal Aliens.

Well look at this! A Ron Paul story at the bottom of the page. I think the media as well as the rest of the GOP candidates don't want us to hear what he has to say. People wat to hear the truth good or bad and Ron Paul is bringing it on! Gulianni is another puppet/war monger/uninformed screwball. Although sometimes I think Ron Paul is holding back on some issues such as 911. 'd like to know why we were not given an answer, a believable answer as to why that buliding blew down like it had dynamite charges placed on every floor. Also why did the greatest military let those planes into the air space and do nothing? Why do we let this go unanswered? Ron Paul deserves better coverage by the media. Stop spoon feeding us Rudy and Billary please