October 11, 2007
Posted: 05:00 PM ET

Clinton explained Thursday why she opted to stay on the Michigan ballot .

(CNN) — Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton seemed to hint Thursday she expects to win her party’s nomination, as she defended the decision to remain on the Michigan primary ballot. But just down the road in New Hampshire, another Democratic White House contender, Bill Richardson, accused Clinton of having it “both ways.”

Clinton was asked about the issue on a New Hampshire radio show, days after five Democratic candidates removed their names from the Michigan ballot after the Democratic National Committee ruled the state violated party rules by scheduling its primary before February 5.

“I just personally did not want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever, and then after the nomination, we have to go in and repair the damage to be ready to win Michigan in 2008,” Clinton said in an interview on New Hampshire Public Radio program “The Exchange.”

Clinton said any weakness in Michigan could hurt Democratic chances to win the state in 2008. “I did not believe it was fair to just say, 'Goodbye Michigan' and not take into account the fact we're going to have to win Michigan if we're going to be in the White House in January 2009," she said.

Richardson, one of the Democrats who removed his name from the Michigan ballot, expressed frustration over Clinton’s decision.

“Maybe she's made up her mind that she's the nominee, but you can't have it both ways and say you're not going to be on the ballot in Michigan and say OK, leave my name on the ballot,” Richardson said at a campaign stop in Manchester.

– CNN Political Assignment Editor Marissa Muller

Filed under: Hillary Clinton


Mia, Stafford, VA   October 12th, 2007 7:55 pm ET

Why is anyone surprised? Some would say this is why she is the more experienced politician. But with politics like this, saying one thing and doing the total opposite, I will pass.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think any of them should have removed their name from the ballot. The fact that she said would not campaign there and remove her name from the ballot, shows her true self.

Coach Haughton NH   October 12th, 2007 4:14 pm ET

I'm glad that someone in the Democratic Party is thinking of more than just capturing the nomination. I don't think the millions of voters in Michigan appreciate being disenfranchised.

Michigan is too important a state to be playing politics with. It's a must win if any Democratic candidate is going to capture the White House. Let us pray that during the general election the Democratic voters in Michigan won't show their distaste with the Democratic Party and vote Republican.

Hillary, PLEASE help the Democrats win this slam dunk election cycle.

Hillary 2008

Posted By Q. CHRISTIAN ATLANTA GA : October 11, 2007 7:50 pm
Hey friend!

By your logic she would've done the same thing with florida.

Coach Haughton NH   October 12th, 2007 4:12 pm ET

My comment is not directed at hilliar because anyone who reads comments on here consistently knows that Oppose her wholeheartedly.

My comment is directed toward the Prisoners of Hillaryland.

She clearly said she would withdraw from the ballot…And then didn't.

What have you learned about people in the real world that say they're going to do things and don't do them?

I think good leadership is keeping to your word.

I'm not saying that this is a big enough deal to change your vote…I'm asking you to do yourself a favor…and instead of buying into her reasoning wholeheartedly…Judge her as you would judge anyone else.

Watch how many times she shifts her position…and in the voting booth……Will you really trust her?

JB Boston MA   October 12th, 2007 3:43 pm ET

"Even though she lied she did it for a good reason."

Huh, sounds like a reasonable statement : )

We have had 8 bad years of politics with partisanship, lies and deceit. Why do we want four more years with someone who has shown the propensity to do the same?

This woman is Evil (that is a capital E). And 48% of this country agrees with me. Dems are throwing this election away.

All you stubborn Hill lovers are going to be shocked when it is over. No, not shocked. I forgot how they run. . . they will claim a GOP conspiracy.

For the Hillary fans, just contemplate this, seriously. 48% of those polled say they will NEVER vote for this woman. They hate her. How can someone win with those numbers? Why would you want to try and force that down peoples throats? It makes no sense. Obama or Gore can and will win if they get the nod.

Chris, Dallas   October 12th, 2007 2:23 pm ET

Dawn,
Don't you dare listen to it. Hillary was right to leave her name on the ballot because she knows that it would upset her supporters. Even though she lied she did it for a good reason. She cares about the American people. She didn't really lie.

Hillary 08 BABY!

JB Boston MA   October 12th, 2007 12:41 pm ET

Dawn-

If you knew anything, you would know that every candidate agreed to remove their name. Hillary then chose not to, and did not inform the other candidates. That shows a complete lack of character. It is spineless and slimy. When are you going to realize that this woman has no chance of winning even if she gets the nod. She is despised by an almost majority of the country. I know hard core liberals that swear they will vote for Gumby before her. The dems are wasting their votes. If they were smart, they would convince Gore to come back (would win in a landslide). Many Republicans I know are willing to give him a shot at it. If not Gore, then Obama.

dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD.   October 12th, 2007 11:01 am ET

Nothing hypocritical whatsoever about promising not to campaign in Michigan and not campaigning in Michigan. Also nothing hypocritical about not promising to take your name off the ballot and not taking your name off the ballot. I believe this was an option open to all the candidates, including Gov. Richardson.

spinstopper   October 12th, 2007 10:08 am ET

Hillary doesn't care what the dems think, she's got that nomination in the bag. Her focus now is on the middle, just watch her flip right..

Cory, Jenison MI   October 12th, 2007 10:05 am ET

A typical hypocritical action by Hillary Clinton. She hasn't shown that she is capable of taking a firm stance on anything. I am hoping the Democrats can take the White House, but I feel that Hillary is unelectable in a gerneral election. A recent poll showed that 48% of the registered voters polled said they would never vote for her under any circumstance (including myself). She is far too polarizing to win a national election. My money is on Edwards as the Democrats best bet with Obama a close second. Hillary can raise money like nobody's business, but what good is it if it gives the Republicans four more years?

Chris, Middletown, CT   October 12th, 2007 10:00 am ET

I swear that Hillary could say its "daytime" when its dark with a full moon…and you would believe every word…its like a cult following…a scarey liberal….entitlement driven…socialist program loving cult.

Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky   October 12th, 2007 9:40 am ET

ProudLiberal, how many times you need to hear that Obama wasn't in Congress 2002, he was not eligable to vote. He has nothing to do with Iraq War or Anti-War. Are you pretending deaf or stubborn? He lies to public, played dirty games, denied experiences but he said he has more experiences than Hillary, it doesn't make sense. Now he should explain about Michigan University related his wife's position(?). He is not honest at all, I don't trust him at all. He needs to practise political experience and view a lots from now on. Hillary is right, Democrats need to win Michigan.

Tom - Dedham, Mass   October 12th, 2007 9:05 am ET

She half ass explains her "decision", I thought that was the job of the MSM and the Clintonista's?

The "Queen" has spoken.

What did Obama do, let's see I will wait to see how he votes on things…

It's called "followship", not leadership.

Rodney Dallas TX   October 12th, 2007 9:01 am ET

ProudLiberal: How could Obama get it right on Iraq? He was not a US Senator at the time of the vote. He DID NOT vote for or against the war. Anyone can come in a few years later and say "Oh, we I would've done this instead". He cannot say that for sure. The only reason he says it now is because the war is an absolute failure. I only here Obama saying "We need change" yet, he never says what he's gonna change. We often here him say "Had I voted, I wouldn't have done it this way". Well, do your job and vote. That's what he's elected to do. Talk about a Johnny-Come-Lately. He never acts on any vote but tells you later what he would have done. He is weak and knows his chances are low. I just don't see why people are so interested in him.

Rodney Dallas TX   October 12th, 2007 8:55 am ET

Why is it so hard for people to actually listen to her explanation and agree with it? Why must everyone analyze it just to find something wrong with it? WE CANNOT ABANDON THE CITIZENS OF MICHIGAN. It's plain and simple. Give them the opportunity to vote for a democratic candidate.

As far as Richardson, just drop out, you have no chance in hell of getting the nomination. It will either be Clinton, Obama, or Edwards. NEVER RICHARDSON.

JB Boston MA   October 12th, 2007 8:09 am ET

This was underhanded and no matter how she explains it, is just another example of her poor ethics and lack of character!

ProudLiberal   October 12th, 2007 3:57 am ET

Why people who are being polled ever utter this woman's name is beyond me. She cannot be trusted. She cannot the truth and is always, always triangulating. We need someone who has sound judgment, who has more elected legislative experience and who has gotten it right on Iraq. We need Barack Obama

Daniel, El Paso, TX   October 12th, 2007 2:46 am ET

About time Richardson takes a slug at Clinton. Hope there are more of these in the future. And for the record if hillary is right then why did she pull out of florida primary? Maybe this is like her I will not fund the war in Iraq anymore nonsense.

Mike Longview, TX   October 12th, 2007 1:25 am ET

Hillary is doing the only sensible thing. She knows that the voters of Michigan are important to her winning the general election.

Jimmy, Ann Arbor, MI   October 12th, 2007 12:38 am ET

Go Blue! Beat the Buckeyes!

Anonymous, Somewhere, MI   October 12th, 2007 12:22 am ET

Clinton's right, Richardson's wrong, end of story.

(of course choking on Hillary's exhaust fumes from back there in fourth place probably isn't helping Richardson's higher thinking capacity.)

Ivan,Chicago, Illinois   October 12th, 2007 12:04 am ET

Hillary is right we need Michigan to win the White House in 2008. The national party leaders should sit down with these state committees and come to an agreement where we don't tear our party apart over this issue. It's about time that the primary process is changed. Iowa with 7, and New Hampshire with 4 electorial votes being the first in the nation, makes little sense. Two states with less than 5 per cent of the electorial vote give such a major roll in deciding the nominees for President.ridicules.

Mike Dallas, TX   October 11th, 2007 11:27 pm ET

Hey CNN and MSM

There is a bigger story from the AP:

CANTERBURY, N.H. - Hillary Rodham Clinton called Barack Obama naive when he said he'd meet with the leaders of Iran without precondition. Now she says she'd do the same thing, too.

During a Democratic presidential debate in July, Obama said he would be willing to meet without precondition in the first year of his presidency with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea.

Standing with him on stage, Clinton said she would first send envoys to test the waters and called Obama's position irresponsible and naive.

But asked about it Thursday by a voter, the New York senator said twice that she, too, would negotiate with Iran "with no conditions."

"I would engage in negotiations with Iran, with no conditions, because we don't really understand how Iran works. We think we do, from the outside, but I think that is misleading," she said at an apple orchard.

CNN and the MSM has been piling on on Barack Obama even though he talked about it in a straight and consistent manner. It is high time for CNN to bring this story to the forefront and hold Hillary's feet to the fire.

Daniel, NY   October 11th, 2007 10:25 pm ET

This is first of all a huge blow to Democrats, but also a huge blow to Clinton who cannot use a firewall strategy anymore! (Full analysis here.

Sue in Michigan   October 11th, 2007 9:49 pm ET

Darn, I was going to vote in the Republican primary, but now I'll have to go cast a vote for Hillary instead.

therealist   October 11th, 2007 9:44 pm ET

Michigan and Florida voter's are meaningless. Hillary IS the DNC nomination. She's shown her loyalty to MoveOn.org and now George Soros has given her his blessing, that's the final say in kool-aid land. The proof is the liberal slimers(bias media) focus on demonizing Republicans instead of Hillary's opponents. The corruption is disgustingly apparent in every other CNN headline.

Bob Fulton, Clinton Corners, NY   October 11th, 2007 9:43 pm ET

Clinton explains Michigan decision

Because I can.

pam Eugene, OR   October 11th, 2007 8:59 pm ET

CNN I have added a comment. You just aren't showing it!
I say again.
Same old Hillary. All the canadates agreed not to be on the ballot there but just how is? She can not be trusted. She is very dishonest and slimy.
No Shrillary for me thanks
Obama )*

Heather, Nashville, TN   October 11th, 2007 8:53 pm ET

Go Hillary!! I want a President who has all of our best interests in mind. I want a President who does not let who she is and where she comes from affect her decision making ability. And because I want all of these things I want to be able to say Madam President in 08….

steve Banny Toccoa Ga   October 11th, 2007 8:48 pm ET

Interesting position: principled yet not following principle.

anon, new york, NY   October 11th, 2007 8:43 pm ET

This shows Hillary has foresight. To do otherwise would short-change the dem nominee in the general election, as the republican party is not enforcing similar rules.

The dem nominee need the votes from michigan and florida.

Just imagine the embarassing situation that, if obama gets the dem nomination, he has to go to michigan and florida to beg for their votes.

Chris Hassel, Saint Paul, Minnesota   October 11th, 2007 8:33 pm ET

The Democratic party caucus and primary rules are what they are, whether we like them or not. This time around, Iowa in the Midwest, New Hampshire in the Northeast, South Carolina in the South, and Nevada in the West are the first four caucus/primary states. Thus, each major region of the country has one state in the early voting process, and after these states vote, the other states do the same. If we wish to change the system because it's a bit archaic, then let's do just that…for the 2012 election cycle. But for this (2008) election cycle, these are the rules, and we ought to abide by them. If we do that, all of the candidates can at least be scrutinized on a one-on-one and small-group basis in these early states; people will be able to size the candidates up and ask them difficult policy questions, etc., which will inform their votes. If a whole bunch of other states start demanding that they also get first-voting rights, the nominating process will become a generic media circus, dominated by money and commercialism, and Senator Clinton will walk away with the Democratic nomination without having to answer detailed, intricate questions in any sort of depth because she is the one who is raising the most money right now (she outraised even Senator Obama by quite a lot last quarter). So of course she has signed on for the Michigan primary; Corporation Clinton (TM) can steamroll everyone with cash and rather superficial appearances on national talk shows. Senator Dodd seems to want to be on the Michigan ballot out of desperation–he's getting nowhere in the early voting states, but if he comes in #2 or so in another state (such as Michigan), he may hang on to be in a position for the V.P. slot. But Governor Richardson, Representative Kucinich, Senator Biden, Senator Obama, and former-Senator Edwards are right in saying they will not be involved in a rule-breaking primary. I applaud them for it, and I hope that people across this country (including in Michigan) see that they are not "dissing" Michigan so much as following the current rules, and applaud them for it, as well. The really sad thing, to be honest, is that Senators Clinton and Dodd, both of whom I admire, are trusting that caucus and primary voters see this scenario as a "disenfranchisement" situation; actually, it's political calculation and manipulation on their part, plain and simple. Regarding future plans, well, perhaps in 2012, Michigan could be the first-voting caucus/primary state in the Midwest, Rhode Island in the Northeast, Louisiana in the South, and Oregon in the West….

pam Eugene OR   October 11th, 2007 8:29 pm ET

Is anyone surprised? Typical double dealing HRC.

ARE YOU KIDDING L.A., CA   October 11th, 2007 8:21 pm ET

She is completely full of it.. Anyone supporting her is either dumb, blind or naive and inexperienced.

Sternberg, Mauldin, SC   October 11th, 2007 8:12 pm ET

Yes she can say it.

Sarah, Mason City, Iowa   October 11th, 2007 8:10 pm ET

This entire thing enrages me. I've often heard people say that if Hillary is the democratic candidate, the republicans will come out in force to prevent her from winning the general election. And this has worried me.

If Hillary is the democratic candidate, I will certainly vote for her as the best option. BUT until then, her actions in the Michigan case have upset me enough to double my efforts in making sure that democrats come out in force and vote for anyone but her.

Talk about polarizing. I've always thought that we shouldn't tear ourselves apart from the inside and hurt our own party, and this is exactly what she is doing.

Melinda, Cleveland, Ohio   October 11th, 2007 8:02 pm ET

WOW. I'm really disappointed/confused/upset. I've been following this entire matter closely. Earlier (before I knew that Clinton and Dodd were definitely not going to withdraw their names) I wrote:

"I have complete confidence that Hillary (and Dodd, for that matter) will withdraw from the Michigan contest. If she didn't, I would never consider voting for her in my own state (Ohio) and I would discourage others from doing so too. But I think she will and so now I still have a tough decision to make."

And then:
"John, it's not about party loyalty, it's about ethics. They all agreed not to campaign there and they shouldn't.

The entire DNC needs to rethink the way they hold primaries to give every state a voice in this process, but having states just keep moving their primaries forward is not the way to go about it."

Like I said, I've been following this issue and have thought about it a lot. I'm really disappointed that Hillary decided to stay on the ballot.

Q. CHRISTIAN ATLANTA GA   October 11th, 2007 7:50 pm ET

I'm glad that someone in the Democratic Party is thinking of more than just capturing the nomination. I don't think the millions of voters in Michigan appreciate being disenfranchised.

Michigan is too important a state to be playing politics with. It's a must win if any Democratic candidate is going to capture the White House. Let us pray that during the general election the Democratic voters in Michigan won't show their distaste with the Democratic Party and vote Republican.

Hillary, PLEASE help the Democrats win this slam dunk election cycle.

Hillary 2008

Jon, Sacramento ~ Ca   October 11th, 2007 7:47 pm ET

CLINTON SAID

"I just personally did not want to set up a situation where the Republicans are going to be campaigning between now and whenever, and then after the nomination, we have to go in and repair the damage to be ready to win Michigan in 2008,”

Mrs Clinton, you have no ethics or party loyalty. You agree with the other candidates to avoid Florida and Michigan. After the OTHER candidates keep their word - you backstab them by keeping yourself on the state ballot so you could get more "power".

I hope this rings loud and clear to the type of person you are! Your ambitions over your ethics.

Jim Belvidere, Illinois   October 11th, 2007 7:43 pm ET

I was hoping she'd go to Michigan to open her mouth again about whatever her handlers think will poll well…I wish she would go away…..Michigan will still vote for her…too many democrats in that god forsaken state.

my911call, Wilmington, NC   October 11th, 2007 7:41 pm ET

Hillary is not dumb. There is a reason that she is a front runner. A good chess player sees all current and future possibilites.

Kevin, Florida   October 11th, 2007 7:37 pm ET

Clinton is a very smart woman,cant wait to call her Madame President in 2009

Sonja San Francisco CA   October 11th, 2007 7:36 pm ET

What a mistake to disfranchise voters.

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