October 17, 2007
Posted: October 17th, 2007 04:19 PM ET

Clinton holds a substantial lead over Obama among black women.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead over Sen. Barack Obama, her chief rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, is growing among African-American voters who are registered Democrats, and particularly among black women, a poll said Wednesday.

Among black registered Democrats overall, Clinton had a 57 percent to 33 percent lead over Obama.

That's up from 53 percent for Clinton and 36 percent for Obama in a poll carried out in April.

Among white registered Democrats, Clinton drew 49 percent support, versus 18 percent for Obama and 17 percent for former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the latest poll found.

The question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 6.5 points.

The former first lady's strongest support among blacks came from black women, 68 percent of whom identified her as their likely choice, versus 25 percent who cited Obama, the senator from Illinois who is African-American.

Black men who are registered Democrats were nearly evenly split, with 42 percent favoring Clinton and 46 percent favoring Obama. The sampling error of that question was plus-or-minus 8 points.

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Erika Day, West Newton, Ma   October 26th, 2007 7:24 pm ET

Has anyone thought about the fact that Obama is more palatable to us conservatives than Hillary Clinton? I would vote for Obama any day even if I disagree with some of his social policies. He appeals to my very die-hard conservative family.

Ane Singleton, Seattle WA   October 22nd, 2007 5:54 pm ET

I am a black female Obama Supporter. I do not believe the Poll results which claims Obama trails Hillary among Black females. Not a single Poll has ever requested my opinion, specifically this one. I have contributed financially to his campaign and will give him the vote. Obama is over qualified for the Presidency, and Hillary has already spent 8 years in the White House.

Maiysha Myshere, Hayward, CA   October 21st, 2007 6:21 pm ET

Listen up people. CNN is major mainstream media, they, like their contemporaries helped to put GWB in the whitehouse lie about the WMD's and much of the whitehouse . I trust CNN as much as I trust GW, Karl Rove and Tricky Dick! Don't believe this media's hype about Hillary's support amoung black women. We know that mainstream media can't be trusted with the truth. CNN is no different than Fox, the UnNews, and their peers. They are spoon fed Whitehouse propaganda and 80% of America is suckling like a new born infant. Think for yourselves, go to the internet for the truth. It is out there. Do not rely on "corporate owned" media. I seriously doubt that this will be printed, but if so, Hooray because it slipped through the cracks!

EBJ, Spring Tx   October 19th, 2007 9:27 pm ET

well so much for that old adage that Black Americans will vote for or follow any one in politics because they are also Black. But then again I think that was shot down when Bush number 1 snuck Justice Thomas in there.

Daniel, Chicago Illinois   October 18th, 2007 10:48 pm ET

I'm kind of sad to see all this media bashing Obama on CNN and it constantly reporting how he is behind in the race for President. I'm sure he is doing just fine.

Chip Celina OH   October 18th, 2007 2:34 pm ET

Funny, I haven't seen the headline about President Bush trouncing, slamming, bashing the Congress with approval rating numbers. His numbers DOUBLE those guys.

She's only up 53-36.

Keith, Oklahoma City, OK   October 18th, 2007 12:04 pm ET

Hillary voted for the Iraq war. Hillary voted for the Patriot act. I mean, she might as well be a Republican. She's a phony, corporate-controlled opportunist who will do or say ANYTHING to get elected. I don't trust her one bit. Nothing she could do or say could possibly make me trust her.

I will vote for Obama, because he's a
real person who I believe cares about
the people. The guy is amazingly smart, compassionate and charismatic. He could go a long way towards repairing our country's shattered reputation. I really believe he could make a fine president.

What really gets me though, is how the networks/newspapers are trying their best to drum up pro-Clinton stories. I can definitely tell where CNN stands!

Dianne, Opa Locka, Florida   October 18th, 2007 11:41 am ET

Black women need to wake up. Most black women that support Senate Clinton fit into two categories: 1) they are voting for hillary because she is a woman, which I found stupid or 2) they are voting for her because of Bill. Either of the two are not good enough for me, given the current situation our country is in. We need to read about Obama's stance on issues and compare them to Clinton's. The Crime Bill that Clinton has advocated and voted for has disproportionately affected our Black men. Sisters, how can you vote for her? Please do not let our black men down. Vote Obama 08!

Tom - Dedham, Mass   October 18th, 2007 9:07 am ET

Since CNN is hung up on polls so much and treats the small sampling as factual somehow.

How would you folks account for the polling that says college educated women favor Obama over Clinton, in fact to use CNN's words, he TROUNCES HER.

I know CNN wouldn't put that poll out there as that would "infer" people that have brains prefer Obama over Clinton whose audience is more targeted to people who watch "The view" and are home during the day.

Funny, people that are home during the day "Baking cookies and having teas", right Shrillary.

Anyone but Hillary – 2008

Jeff, South Portland, Maine   October 18th, 2007 7:32 am ET

If you really want to know what Real People think check the YouTube click results from Huffingtonpost.com.

Obama 11million+ views
Clinton 960 thousand !!!!

That is 11 to 1 folks.

And CNN things they are not biased???

Give me a break

Stacy, Baton Rouge LA   October 18th, 2007 4:05 am ET

African women don't know who to vote for, a woman like them or a African person like them.

Bama Cleveland OH   October 18th, 2007 2:50 am ET

Are you sure Hillary and Obama are not related ??

ronnie - knoxville tn.   October 18th, 2007 2:13 am ET

true Hillary is waaay right of Hussein Obama, and at least will be slightly more agressive in keeping our military the mightiest in the world; but she stil will rape us on taxes and put in liberals judges that will stick for decades so she must be stopped.

Charles in Utah   October 18th, 2007 12:01 am ET

One more proof - as if any was needed - that Obama is a much wiser choice than Hillary.

Jenny Lewisville, TX   October 17th, 2007 11:54 pm ET

Yeah, this is defiantely a hard choice for me, not b/c I am a black woman but just b/c i like qualities in both candidates. As a dem I am so excited about the choices and I must say I am LEANING toward Hillary right now b/c she seems strong, confident, experienced, and knowledgeable.... I could still vote for Obama but he is not saying anything new or appealing... race or gender will not have anything to do with my decision.

ellie, michigan   October 17th, 2007 11:32 pm ET

at least cnn is more even-handed than fox news and msnbc when editorializing stories.

Olson Johnson -- Rock Ridge   October 17th, 2007 11:29 pm ET

Hillary is leading most polls because of her high name recognition and the fact that most of the electorate is not yet fully engaged and have yet to get serious about making sure of their choice. Add in the fact that there are pollsters out there in Clinton's pocket and it's no surprise when a poll comes out showing her leading. Just google Vinod Gupta and Douglas Schoen and you'll see what I mean. These biased polls just help to feed the "inevitibility" fallacy.

If Barack does close the gap to within the margin of error or takes the lead in any national polls, that will rightfully be huge news because of the deck being stacked against him.

Regarding the black/African-American portion of the electorate, the story is much the same. People know Clinton's name and she is a sort of default candidate, presumably even more so for women. Few people even knew who Barack Obama was three years ago. Once they get to know him, they usually end up liking him a lot.

If they actually compare records, people go for Obama in a big way.

Also, Hillary is great at giving applause lines during speeches and sounding good for whatever audience she is in front of. She is not so good at living up to her rhetoric. Here's just one example: http://www.nationalbcc.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=358&Itemid=30

S.I.Porter Chicago, Illinois   October 17th, 2007 11:17 pm ET

Anyone want to comment that the person whose firm did the poll HAS CONTRIBUTED HEAVILY TO HILLARY?

I don't believe this poll, BTW.

I haven't met a Black person yet that's voting for Hillary.

When I talk to folks, we don't know where these Black folk for Hillary are.

Rose National City, Ca   October 17th, 2007 11:14 pm ET

Blah..blah...blah..blah..whatever you say CNN!

stclaire for obama 08

Halal Greenburg   October 17th, 2007 11:11 pm ET

Wednesday, October 17, 2007
Patrick will endorse Obama, officials say

(Patricia McDonnell for The Boston Globe)

Obama lent Patrick a helping hand in last year's governor's race.

By Frank Phillips, Globe Staff

Governor Deval Patrick is throwing his support to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, an endorsement that will give the Illinois senator a much needed boost in New Hampshire and help blunt Hillary Clinton's courting of African-American leaders.

Senior administration officials confirmed that Patrick called Obama today to confirm his plans to endorse his presidential candidacy. The two talked briefly and aides began working out details for a large public rally in Boston next week.

The Patrick political organization today sent out e-mails to its list of 40,000 workers and supporters, telling them of his decision to back Obama.

Patrick, the nation's only black governor, who is considered a rising star in a new generation of African-American leaders, also called Clinton today to inform her of his decision. He has strong ties to her and former President Bill Clinton, in whose administration he held a top justice department post. Both Clintons lobbied him for his endorsement.

Patrick chose Obama because he believes the country is hungry for his new style of leadership that cuts across both racial and party lines and stirs up strong voter enthusiasm, according to the senior administration officials. The governor is expected to argue that Obama can lead what he terms a "generational call" - a rally to rebuild the country and restore its standing around the world.

Tufts University political science professor Jeffrey Berry said Patrick's endorsement will be most significant because it will reinforce Obama's most potent skills as a candidate, his broad based appeal to voters. "For Obama, a Patrick endorsement is another sign there is a new young generation of dynamic black leaders who can appeal across racial and partisan lines," Berry said.

With the exception of opening a Democratic presidential debate last June in Washington, Patrick has spent his first year in office keeping a low national profile. His aides said Patrick expects to make appearances for Obama in New Hampshire and Iowa after the Massachusetts Legislature wraps up its session in mid November.

Posted by the Boston Globe City & Region Desk

mike, dallas, TX   October 17th, 2007 10:55 pm ET

Is this according to the CNN Venod Gupta, Clinton buddy company conducting the poll?

CNN needs to show a disclaimer each time they show these polls.

Jamal   October 17th, 2007 10:53 pm ET

but good is Gravel is doing quite well,i admire him for being truthfull,I believe him on this 100%Gravel in Florida is not doing Obama any favors.

“Former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, a leading candidate for Buzz’s Profile in Courage Award for being the only Democratic presidential hopeful not boycotting Florida’s Jan. 29 primary, shared some insight with us while campaigning in Tampa Bay Wednesday.

At a “Political Connections” taping that will air Sunday on Bay News 9, he informed us that Barack Obama is the least friendly candidate at the debates.

“He’s just not a warm person. And he’s got a fish handshake,” said Gravel, depicting a flaccid grip. He offered up John Edwards and Joe Biden as the most friendly.”

Now i seen it on tv to wear he was knocking on doors his appearance was he has frustrations issues on his face,i dont trust him…He is attacking Hillary in all sense he should not be pandering himself on the republican side.. which she is attacking bush this is his crap for the 7 years…and she is the one pointing this out,so she attacks him terribly.what are you going to do when Bill and hillary attack you Obama,your gonna cry.

great post i found soemone wrote,makes sense to me:

but this just sounds like narcissism to me. Why is he attributing the partisanship of the 90s to Hillary? I just don’t get it. It seems to me that the Clintons have taken a fair amount of heat for the sheer amount of bi-partisan work they did.

I think Obama is a blan blank up guy. I don’t like him. I don’t trust him. I can’t think of another Democratic candidate I’ve ever said that about. But this business of blaming the partisanship of the 90s on the first lady is evidence of some pathological malady to my mind.

it’s weird. he’s running on George Bush’s platform – blame the Clintons. Vote for me. I’m a uniter,of what religion Come on Obama bring the truth out.whats your religion.Islam once ya have it,it does not go away.He isnt fooling me.

Stephanie, Sacramento, CA   October 17th, 2007 10:18 pm ET

First, I saw the televised report of this poll and I would suggest that having someone from the African American community speak to the context of these numbers would help your credibility greatly. I have also read a report on the fact that older Black women 50+ are afraid to vote for Barack because they think he will be killed. Given that sentiment among older Black women particularly in the South who have lost the men in their lives to segregation and the KKK these huge numbers are not what they appear to be. If you had a more diverse group of reporters they would provide better analysis. Instead you throw the numbers out as if a poll is a poll. There are enough White women to discuss the extra burden for Hillary having to appear tough because she is the female candidate, but you are not providing the same analysis or interpretation for Obama running as a Black man. In the end I am confident that the exit polls will show a much different split. (Hi Kim!)

Jim Bremer   October 17th, 2007 10:05 pm ET

Why are black women flocking to Hillary ?

Coz they dont want to suffer under

BURQA HUSSEIN OSAMA

FT Doylestown, Pa   October 17th, 2007 9:52 pm ET

I Haven't met one person that is voting for her and I think I get arround....How come all the polls say the same thing....Polls say Women will come out and vote for the first Woman Pres....I'm a Woman and I hate this Creature! I'm sick to DEATH of the CLINTON and The BUSH'S ....is this ENGLAND.
The Polls are giving to you by the Same Media that give the News! Ha Ha ..
Americans don't TRUST The "BIAS MEDIA"!
Hey I guess they'll be Shocked election night.....when it's NOT "THE HILL"! SURPRISE!!!

Dorothy, Miami, Florida   October 17th, 2007 9:21 pm ET

I am a black woman, and I am NOT supporting Hillary. Most of the black women here in Miami, Florida is supporting Obama. Most don't even like the lady due to the fact that she labels them as victims. Hillary is condescending to black women. Her strategy is to get black females voters and she will say and do anything to get out votes. I hate when she uses black dialect when speaking to black crowds.
Black Women please support Obama. Our black men are our leaders, they have shown us who they support and that's Obama.
Obama 08!

nofluer St Joseph, MO   October 17th, 2007 8:55 pm ET

Want to hear the DIRTY LITTLE SECRET that they won't tell you? It's that these polls mean nothing because they take them over the TELEPHONE – you remember? That little gizmo that sat on a little table somewhere with a wire coming out of it before you got your cell phone and had it disconnected?

Citizens the under 30 who mostly own cell phones and do NOT own landlines, which is the majority of the younger citizenry, are completely excluded. So the polls are of people with telephones who are mostly over 30 – which group will tend to vote for the older candidate – ie Hillary. So ANY poll will favor Hillary over Obama.

andy   October 17th, 2007 8:50 pm ET

still waiting..oh that's right. The only time a black leader gets news is if he says something BAD about Obama (like Jesse saying Obama was acting white) or something GOOD about Hillary (like the BREAKING NEWS TICKER ABOUT JOHN LEWIS ENDORSING HILLARY) First BLACK GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS ENDORSES OBAMA AND SAYS NICE THINGS ABOUT HIM???
Cnn yawns
"where the brothers complaining about Obama at"??? Thaswhat Cnn wants. That's the only news fit to print about Obama for CNN

Coach Haughton NH   October 17th, 2007 8:46 pm ET

I wonder, When her majesty the clinton takes the throne is CNN going to do coverage of the soup lines across america?

Howard Sharpe, North Branch, MN   October 17th, 2007 8:24 pm ET

Black women should be offended. According to Schneider, they can't make up their minds whether to vote black or female, both incredibly stupid, irrelevant reasons to cast a vote in the first place. What a vapid, shallow country we've become.

Karen, NYC   October 17th, 2007 8:23 pm ET

Now this is a load of horse hairs! I'm black and haven't been polled in this new wave excuse for promoting Mrs. Bill Clinton.

Q. Christian Atlanta GA   October 17th, 2007 8:06 pm ET

If the polls were saying that Obama was trouncing Hillary, everyone in Obamaland would be crying out to the heavens in glee. Since the polls are saying that Hillary is winning, everyone is going over board to minimize the significance of the polls. Everyone is always saying it's going to be an upset at the polls and Obama is going to win, but do these people think that Hillary just doesn't have any supporters at all. This is a fact. All the young vibrant people that Obama is catering to historically don't vote in the primaries. This is not a new fact. They talk a good game and say how good Obama will be in office, but game day comes they sit on the bench and all the loyal voters will come out and elect Hillary. If they could vote on myspace or facebook they would, but going to the polls they find that hard to do.

I find it absolutely amazing that people in Obamaland don't find validity in polls, yet they often point to polls that show Senator Clinton having a high unfavorable rating among potential voters. Is this poll wrong too? Lemme guess, that one is right but the polls indicating Barack being down among blacks is wrong. Get real people you can't have it both ways. All the polls can't be wrong people. Stop living in fantasy land.

Lastly as a black man, I KNOW Hillary Clinton has enormous support among black people general. I really wish that the black people that post here would admit it too. I don't know of ONE black person and I know LOTS AND LOTS who is supporting Barack Obama– NOT A ONE. All of the people I know who is supporting Obama are white. I don't know why Obama supporters think that CNN is lying or trying to distort facts when the truth really is among black people Obama's support is just not as high as Hillary's.

Hillary 2008

ps It's amazing how people criticized Hillary for taking too active a role in Bill Clinton's presidency, but now question whether she has the experience to lead.

Dave, Cheverly, MD   October 17th, 2007 8:05 pm ET

Every African American should be insulted by this miss reporting. That’s like saying a Jewish person is running, but most of the Jews are voting for the Catholic Candidate. It just aint going to happen like that! NO ONE is falling for this attempt to steer folk’s views! In the real world, right or wrong. It doesn’t work that way!

This is not comparing any Candidate with Dean. But one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?

SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:

Dean polls 38%
Kerry 17%.
Edwards 12%

Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
Dean Iowa 18%

SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:

Dean Poll 45%
Kerry 20%.
Edwards 2%

Kerry WINS NH 39%
Howard Dean 12%
Edwards 32%

monica, rochester new york   October 17th, 2007 8:03 pm ET

The Clintons were in power during the 1994 genocide in R-wanda. The U.S. did absolutely nothing. Most Americans didn't even know about it and still don't. As the first lady and one claims to "love" black people so much Hillary should have made it her cause to sound the alarm bell. No Hillary, this black woman remembers your apathy and doesn't think you're deserving to president.

athomas, new york, ny   October 17th, 2007 8:01 pm ET

"I dont know any black supporting Hillary."
My comment: You have a narrow group of black friends, and should get out more.

"The poll saying hillary is leading is not accurate, not represent final votes, etc."

My comments: That statement is often from the losing candidates (e.g,. obama and edwards) or their supporters. If different polls from different polling organizations say that hillary is leading over obama, that is pretty accurate at that particular point of time.

Obama indicated that a few weeks ago that he would curtail his public appearances. On the other hand, Hillary came out more often in the last weeks explaing her platform and her polls surge and her magin widens from obama. People like what they see and like what they hear from her.

While there is nothing for sure in politics, I do like Hillary's chance.

James, Phoenix AZ   October 17th, 2007 7:54 pm ET

CNN OPINION POLL – same one used for all of todays articles:

Hillary trouncing Obama (1212 participants)

American's Supporting Illegals Staying (1212 participants)

American's Supporting SCHIP (1212 participants)

The marigin of error is 6.5% (that's HUGE in the world of polling). For each of these various topics – you get the same ideological result (Pro Hillary, Pro Illegal Immigrant, Pro Free Healthcare).

A biased poll for a biased network!

SHAME ON YOU, CNN

pam Eugene, OR   October 17th, 2007 7:27 pm ET

Shame on you CNN. How can you say "Trouncing" based on a survey with 307 people in 1 state. You really do need some help with you inflamitory headlines. You can't sell us Hil by proclaiming her the winner. Where will your credibility be when the voting starts. You will be right in there with the check stand rags. At least pretent to be fair.

andy   October 17th, 2007 7:26 pm ET

Anything showing Clinton beating Obama a black man, is immediately shown as breaking news!!! Has Cnn had a breaking news alert about Deval Patrick endorsing OBAMA????
hmmmmmm waiting....
waiting...
****crickets chirping****
they trumpet this poll with a margin of error of EIGHT POINTS!! uselesss, absolutely useless.
but nothing good about Obama, when he could get something positive in the news.
thanks cnn.

Sarah   October 17th, 2007 7:19 pm ET

This sample size is so small that it is insignificant.

I don't know one black woman who is voting for Hillary. Give me a break.

Lance in Monrovia CA   October 17th, 2007 7:17 pm ET

Hey anon, its more likely that, as I've found canvassing for Barack, most hispanic voters are still not paying attention to the race and know only Clinton's name. I spent a day at a Latino festival in Vegas, talking to hispanics about Barack. We found that those that have heard of him are downright excited by this son of an immigrant that has spoken in fluent spanish to them and even sang on Mexican radio. Those that hadn't heard of him seemed very willing to listen and by the end of the day we left with a page full of emails and phone numbers.

The thing that Hillary doesn't realize, is that hispanic voters are going to vote with whomever makes the personal connection with them, which is impossible to do from Hillary's ivory tower.

They're wide open, and they're going to be a huge factor in both the primary and general. The more time that passes, the more hispanics are going to be lining up with Obama.

Joanne Urish, Glasford, IL 61533   October 17th, 2007 7:07 pm ET

I am having a hard time believing that the black community is favoring Clinton to such a degree as CNN is reporting. In fact, CNN is coming across as being supportive of Clinton, and that is not appropriate. Where is your objectivity?? I am so disappointed in CNN's reporting of this Presidential race. They might just as well come right out and say,"We support Hillary, everybody".
Obama doesn't stand a chance in such an atmosphere. And it is a crying shame, because he is by far the best candidate we have running......

ronnie knoxville, tn.   October 17th, 2007 7:06 pm ET

who cares ? both of these politicians just want to take more money out of your pocket. your day-to-day life isn't going to change . Look at the issues, not who you like more.

anon, new york, ny   October 17th, 2007 6:59 pm ET

Hillary's support from latino voters also outnumbers Obama.

Hillary has a very strong lead over her prime challenger Barack Obama among Hispanics in key Democratic primary states. She dominates in California, Texas, New Jersey, Florida and New York- states with early Democratic primaries and huge numbers of delegates.

You just have to wonder why Obama, being a visible minority himself, does not get the most support from the visible minorities. Obama must have failed to addrss their concerns, or have failed to gain their trust.

Mia, Stafford, VA   October 17th, 2007 6:58 pm ET

Can someone PLEASE tell me what President Clinton did so much specifically for African Americans?

I am a fan of President Clinton, but I'm not sure what all this is about. FMLA – Chris Dodd's idea and helps everyone
Welfare to Work – Blacks are not the majority that were on welfare

So someone please tell me what he did for Blacks.

Regarding Mrs. Clinton efforts on health care and woman choices, what has she actually achieved?

Obama 08

Lance in Monrovia CA   October 17th, 2007 6:56 pm ET

I have been knocking on doors for Obama for weeks now and I'll offer my own informal poll from myself and the volunteers around me. I got the addresses I knock on from registered Democrat lists provided by the campaign. I worked a weekend in Nevada and I found NOT A SINGLE HILLARY SUPPORTER out of 200 people spoken with, mostly poor white, black or hispanic. My fiance speaks Spanish and we spoke to a boatload of hispanics.

In California over three canvass days I have spoken thus far to about 50 people. Again, not a SINGLE HILLARY SUPPORTER. In reality, we average three Obama pledge cards a day per volunteer and the rest, the vast majority of Democrats we've spoken with, remain undecided, still not fully engaged in the race.

I went to a Democrat party meeting here locally. 30 people in attendance, mostly older and female, mostly white, some hispanic. They asked everyone at the end to stand and say whom they supported. NO ONE supported Hillary. Three supported Obama. One supported Edwards. The rest were again TOTALLY UNDECIDED and not leaning toward Hillary.

The Obama campaign had a huge canvass this last weekend and results are coming in from across the country. They all say the same, that the Democratic electorate remains undecided, and can be swayed. If they're not with Hillary by now, they're not going to be.

That's the reality on the ground, take it or leave it, but I've seen it first hand.

Bea, Hoboken, NJ   October 17th, 2007 6:47 pm ET

This explains why Clinton is… only leading in Iowa (a white state) by 11 in today's poll!

Posted By Daniel : October 17, 2007 4:25 pm

Is this the link that you were trying to copy?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/democratic_iowa_caucus

BajanLuv, Newport News, VA   October 17th, 2007 6:40 pm ET

AThomas, NY: I don't know where to begin. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Now what? We all know that. To say that Hil can one up Obama when it comes to civil rights–please. It was a grassroots organizer in the poorest neighborhoods in Chicago. He could have gone to a six figure salary out of Harvard. I doubt that southern White men/woman in Fl or LA will vote for Hillary–I really doubt they will. Good way to tout Hillary's civil rights credentials and then insult the only Black, qualified candidate running. Seems like something she should condemn.

john adkisson, sacramento, california   October 17th, 2007 6:34 pm ET

As a former campaign manager who used polling extensively in my work - these poll results are not at all great news for Clinton. In fact, the results show that the national numbers are in total flux. More than half of the voters do not know who they will end up supporting - and the African-American community is split by gender, meaning it is up for grabs too. Donna Brazille's comment (I normally think highly of her) about the "sistah" vote is offensive. Obama is likely to carry the African-American vote, but not despite gender or because of race. It will be because of his visionary candidacy and his effective campaign in key states. These poll numbers indicate that the vote is up for grabs, and that the overall numbers are merely a snapshot of voters' impressions who have not yet been introduced to Obama. Clinton is, from these results, riding the coat tails of the Clinton presidency and her own high name recognition. At the Iowa caucuses, and the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries, voters will be well informed and knowledgable about Obama.

Thomas NY   October 17th, 2007 6:32 pm ET

wow...Obama fans are surely sore...All of a sudden those people in the poles dont represent their beliefs , but if they were for Obama these people would be bragging that he was ahead of Clinton. This is why obama is not going to win thw vote , look at who his followers are...

Kim, Sacramento, CA   October 17th, 2007 6:22 pm ET

The further we get into this process and the more baloney I hear coming from the media the more ticked off I get.

Message to the Media: It is not your choice as to who gets put into office it is ours – the American public. Oh yea, it is our choice whether to watch your newscasts, read your papers, etc. And, I for one, am done with the bias reporting of the media on this election. It is very obvious who the media wants for the Republican and Democratic nominees on this. But, please US media – just start reporting the facts again. We the people of these great United States are very capable of making up our own minds, thank you.

Re. the subject of this article – on the ground I am finding that exactly the opposite is true. That black men are more likely to support Hillary than black women, but that overwhelmingly the black population is behind Obama. From my experience on the ground, talking to voters – about 75% is behind Obama.

Mike, Cleveland, OH   October 17th, 2007 6:14 pm ET

Chris, Middletown, CT

I'm no Hillary supporter but She only wrote a thesis on Alinsky and was never his student.

BajanLuv, Newport News, VA   October 17th, 2007 6:06 pm ET

I am surprised that you got 307 Black women to answer your questions. I guess we are locked up for Hil.

Obama '08

Matt Sutton, Medford Oregon   October 17th, 2007 6:01 pm ET

Yawn. Let me know what the poll says after Barack wins Iowa.

Hey, Where is your report on Barack picking up the endorsment of Governor Patrick? http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/10/patrick_will_en.html

Vee, SD, CA   October 17th, 2007 5:58 pm ET

YA..POLL..POLL... Hillary is the " QUEEN POLL...itican!" Have fun with the polls. Let's see if actually translate into votes.

A. Thomas, New York, NY   October 17th, 2007 5:57 pm ET

This explains why Clinton is… only leading in Iowa (a white state) by 11 in today's poll!

Posted By Daniel : October 17, 2007 4:25 pm

Your link doees not work! I have no idea what your source is, but the truth is that Hillary leads in many black states including south carolina, north carolina, ohio, tennessee, etc.

Hillary has such high black support because:

a) She is a woman, mother, and most importantly is regarded by many black women as a strong advocate for health care and women's interests.

b) Hillary has outpaced obama in civil right fronts. It started with her husband, bill clinton, who arguably did more for blacks than any other american presidents. Meanwhile, Hillary herself has networked with black churches, civil right leaders, congressional black caucus, etc.

c) Polls consistently show that hillary is light yrs ahead of obama in her experience, qualification and campaign machine, which translate into electability. That means volumes to black voters. The blacks hate George Bush so much that they want Hillary to get back the White House, as inexperienced obama cannot be relied upon to do this task.

d) There are whites and hispanics in several swing states like florida and louisiana that will vote hillary, but will not vote a black candidate (obama). Without winning these swing states, obama has not chance.

e) Even the black leaders don’t like Borat Hussein Obama. Jessee Jackson said Obama acted like a white guy.
In addition the Rev. Al Sharpton launched a "big-time" effort to tear down Illinois Sen. Barack Obama as a candidate for president. He's saying that Obama never did anything for the community, never worked with anybody from the community, that nobody knows the people around him, that he's a candidate driven by white leadership.

Sam Indiana   October 17th, 2007 5:37 pm ET

Who cares? Now that Stephen Colbert is running neither stand a chance.

Darlene Leavenworth Kansas   October 17th, 2007 5:36 pm ET

I am a black american woman and I do
not support Hillary Clinton never have
never will.

Jerry Liscomb NV   October 17th, 2007 5:32 pm ET

Clinton is leading in Iowa | New Hampshire | South Carolina | Nevada | Florida!!!!!

obama who?

Sandra Longfellow NC   October 17th, 2007 5:31 pm ET

GO Hillary!
CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT 2008

LinnieFB, Corona, CA   October 17th, 2007 5:26 pm ET

Not sure who is being polled...but, Hillary Clinton is NOT going to get the black woman vote! I'm really beginning to wonder about who controls the polling and the media! I suppose next we will get a poll saying white southern men prefer Clinton? (equally unlikely)

Clinton is being forced on the American electorate! I guess the goal is to make people give up...NOT going to happen.

Go Obama!

Erik   October 17th, 2007 5:23 pm ET

A Urgent Plea to Women of Color...

Black women please support good black men for the sake of our race and our children! Voting for Obama will help INSPIRE BLACK FAMILIES. Please black women do not turn your back on black families. There are good black men in this country who want to up lift sisters. Please give Mr. Obama a chance. Give his wife a chance. Give his daughters a chance. Give our communities a chance. I live in NY where Aids effect more women of color. HILLARY HAS NEVER addressed this problem for NYer's and she has been our senator for 7 years. She is using you to turn against black people to win an election. The Clinton's only want your vote. They will not be there for black people. They will abandon us AGAIN and give us SCRAPS from the political table. Please black women from a strong brother to my strong sisters...Please do not turn your back on our people, our children and their future! Please vote for Mr. Obama!

Video of blacks who support Obama!
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post_group/ObamaHQ/CnHS

I'M DONE, L.A.,CA   October 17th, 2007 5:22 pm ET

TROUNCING??? Can we be anymore biased.. CNN, instead of making blanket statements, why not run a piece on what Hillary has done for African-Americans?? Because I know it's nothing.. Talk to African Americans in New York and ask them what she has done for them in her time in the senate.. Nothing.. This officially does it for me CNN..I held out hope that once stoiores and inconsistencies came up in Hillary's "flawless" campaign, you would report and call her out, much like you do with Obama.. If CNN would post the negatives as much as the positives, people could live with that.. But CNN creates positives and ignores negatives..
-Only candidate to receive money from Walmart, whom she spoke out against during a debate
-She has been accused and there is evidence of her eavesdropping on opponents conversations in the past even though she spoke out against that during a debate
-She has flip-flopped numerous times in the last month and panders to the audience in front of her
I can keep going, but CNN will probably delete this anyway..
CNN, even though you have picked a candidate, you have a duty to report honestly and FAIRLY.. Do your job and let the American people do their research and find out that HRC is bad news for us.. I am officially done with CNN, this ticker and the media.. Vote Obama people.. or we/you as Americans/an American deserve the next 8 years of suffering.

Nancy   October 17th, 2007 5:19 pm ET

The question no one is discussing and neither is Hillary is America going to want 2 women in charge. Nancy P hasn't exactly been a great speaker of the House.

If you'll notice Hillary never mentions her on the campaign trail.

Democrats may not talk about it but if she gets the nomination Republicans will. I don;'t think they will.

MsCiara, Paris   October 17th, 2007 5:18 pm ET

The poll I am interested in is on the day of the caucus ! And for the record, minorities all in ALL states..

Vinny, Philly, PA   October 17th, 2007 5:12 pm ET

these sampling errors are the largest potential swings I've ever seen. I'm used to seeing errors of +/- 3 points or so. 8 points?!? That's a potential 16 point swing! even the 6.5 point potential error is pretty huge. What's going on with these polls?

Mick Simmons   October 17th, 2007 5:07 pm ET

I can only assume by the polling numbers that Rudy is guaranteed victory. In head-to-head without the black vote he wins by a landslide...and history shows that is has always been difficult to get blacks to the voting booth...good luck changing the tide again next time.

intheknow, USA   October 17th, 2007 5:04 pm ET

Hmmmm....this is going to be interesting when Condoleezza enters the race...

Not Surprised, Tampa, FL   October 17th, 2007 5:03 pm ET

Sad. But that's the way it will always be.

therealist   October 17th, 2007 5:02 pm ET

307 black callers represent the entire black minority vote. That's a great scientific technique you got there CNN..

lou, Mississippi   October 17th, 2007 5:00 pm ET

I believe this poll like I believe the other half million that have been taken. This is be the reverse Bradley effect.

Chris, Middletown, CT   October 17th, 2007 4:57 pm ET

I'm in a state that always votes for Democrats for President – I only know of one person who said they liked Hillary – I can't see how any of this is remotely true....in fact – it was recently announced that CT is no longer a lock for the Dems if Giuliani runs against HRC....finally!! (I think it would still be a lock for the Dems if Obama ran....so...go Hillary – the country hates you (well...the literate ones anyway....) – lookup Saul Alinsky....you can see how the student is becoming the teacher

Brenda, Annapolis MD   October 17th, 2007 4:57 pm ET

And why is that? There is no correlation between the nation as a whole and Iowa. I do recall that for the longest time, the top three democratic were practically tied in Iowa. The poll discussed here can hardly be seen as representative for individual states. This poll describes the whole statistical picture–not the way EACH state will vote in the primary and general elections.

Colbert Nation USA   October 17th, 2007 4:54 pm ET

Who cares? Neither of them stand a chance now that Stephen Colbert is in the race!

Caren   October 17th, 2007 4:52 pm ET

Daniel, you were a litle too subtle, it went right over my head (which isn't unusual). Were you be a little tongue in cheek? Anyway, I found the article interesting. As an African American female and staunch supporter of Hillary I can understand her being even with Obama but those numbers are really interesting. Now I will move over & make room for the Hillary Haters to start foaming at the mouth. You guys really need to get your shots.

eastsider Cleveland, OH   October 17th, 2007 4:52 pm ET

Black Americans may abondon Clinton if they read all of the racist postings on this blog from Clinton supporters.

Natalie,NC   October 17th, 2007 4:51 pm ET

I don't buy this poll I am a black woman and i don't plsn to vote for her and i don't know a single black woman who does...who are you guys talking to....or are you just making up these numbers!!!

J, Seattle WA   October 17th, 2007 4:43 pm ET

Hillary Clinton = America's Eva Peron!

uriew, CA   October 17th, 2007 4:41 pm ET

Thanks CNN for letting us know, now we can fight hard to assure Hillary loses the nomination. One thing with this Obama army, tell us anything negative and we will prove you wrong, just like the money is trickling in for Obama, 1 million dollars in a day. Try asking Hillary supporters for that and see if it EVER happens unless their arms are twisted

James, Phoenix AZ   October 17th, 2007 4:37 pm ET

LOL – I must say, CNN, your biased headlines have become comical. Clinton couldn't be "leading" or "ahead"... no she is "TROUNCING" Obama.

57 – 33 with an error of +/- 6.5 (so take away 6.5 from 57 and add 6.5 to 33 and the error of margin suggests it COULD be 50 – 40)

WOW... THAT's trouncing?

joseph, austin, tx   October 17th, 2007 4:33 pm ET

so "307 blacks" polled represents all of black america. is non latino whites how white people are described as today, we really have lost the invasion against mexico. everyday a fluff peice about clinton what a suprise.

Daniel   October 17th, 2007 4:25 pm ET

This explains why Clinton is... only leading in Iowa (a white state) by 11 in today's poll!

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