October 17th, 2007
04:19 PM ET
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Poll: Clinton trouncing Obama among black women

Clinton holds a substantial lead over Obama among black women.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Sen. Hillary Clinton's lead over Sen. Barack Obama, her chief rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, is growing among African-American voters who are registered Democrats, and particularly among black women, a poll said Wednesday.

Among black registered Democrats overall, Clinton had a 57 percent to 33 percent lead over Obama.

That's up from 53 percent for Clinton and 36 percent for Obama in a poll carried out in April.

Among white registered Democrats, Clinton drew 49 percent support, versus 18 percent for Obama and 17 percent for former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, the latest poll found.

The question had a sampling error of plus-or-minus 6.5 points.

The former first lady's strongest support among blacks came from black women, 68 percent of whom identified her as their likely choice, versus 25 percent who cited Obama, the senator from Illinois who is African-American.

Black men who are registered Democrats were nearly evenly split, with 42 percent favoring Clinton and 46 percent favoring Obama. The sampling error of that question was plus-or-minus 8 points.

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  1. Sam Indiana

    Who cares? Now that Stephen Colbert is running neither stand a chance.

    October 17, 2007 05:37 pm at 5:37 pm |
  2. A. Thomas, New York, NY

    This explains why Clinton is… only leading in Iowa (a white state) by 11 in today's poll!

    Posted By Daniel : October 17, 2007 4:25 pm

    Your link doees not work! I have no idea what your source is, but the truth is that Hillary leads in many black states including south carolina, north carolina, ohio, tennessee, etc.

    Hillary has such high black support because:

    a) She is a woman, mother, and most importantly is regarded by many black women as a strong advocate for health care and women's interests.

    b) Hillary has outpaced obama in civil right fronts. It started with her husband, bill clinton, who arguably did more for blacks than any other american presidents. Meanwhile, Hillary herself has networked with black churches, civil right leaders, congressional black caucus, etc.

    c) Polls consistently show that hillary is light yrs ahead of obama in her experience, qualification and campaign machine, which translate into electability. That means volumes to black voters. The blacks hate George Bush so much that they want Hillary to get back the White House, as inexperienced obama cannot be relied upon to do this task.

    d) There are whites and hispanics in several swing states like florida and louisiana that will vote hillary, but will not vote a black candidate (obama). Without winning these swing states, obama has not chance.

    e) Even the black leaders don’t like Borat Hussein Obama. Jessee Jackson said Obama acted like a white guy.
    In addition the Rev. Al Sharpton launched a "big-time" effort to tear down Illinois Sen. Barack Obama as a candidate for president. He's saying that Obama never did anything for the community, never worked with anybody from the community, that nobody knows the people around him, that he's a candidate driven by white leadership.

    October 17, 2007 05:57 pm at 5:57 pm |
  3. Vee, SD, CA

    YA..POLL..POLL... Hillary is the " QUEEN POLL...itican!" Have fun with the polls. Let's see if actually translate into votes.

    October 17, 2007 05:58 pm at 5:58 pm |
  4. Matt Sutton, Medford Oregon

    Yawn. Let me know what the poll says after Barack wins Iowa.

    Hey, Where is your report on Barack picking up the endorsment of Governor Patrick? http://www.boston.com/news/globe/city_region/breaking_news/2007/10/patrick_will_en.html

    October 17, 2007 06:01 pm at 6:01 pm |
  5. BajanLuv, Newport News, VA

    I am surprised that you got 307 Black women to answer your questions. I guess we are locked up for Hil.

    Obama '08

    October 17, 2007 06:06 pm at 6:06 pm |
  6. Mike, Cleveland, OH

    Chris, Middletown, CT

    I'm no Hillary supporter but She only wrote a thesis on Alinsky and was never his student.

    October 17, 2007 06:14 pm at 6:14 pm |
  7. Kim, Sacramento, CA

    The further we get into this process and the more baloney I hear coming from the media the more ticked off I get.

    Message to the Media: It is not your choice as to who gets put into office it is ours – the American public. Oh yea, it is our choice whether to watch your newscasts, read your papers, etc. And, I for one, am done with the bias reporting of the media on this election. It is very obvious who the media wants for the Republican and Democratic nominees on this. But, please US media – just start reporting the facts again. We the people of these great United States are very capable of making up our own minds, thank you.

    Re. the subject of this article – on the ground I am finding that exactly the opposite is true. That black men are more likely to support Hillary than black women, but that overwhelmingly the black population is behind Obama. From my experience on the ground, talking to voters – about 75% is behind Obama.

    October 17, 2007 06:22 pm at 6:22 pm |
  8. Thomas NY

    wow...Obama fans are surely sore...All of a sudden those people in the poles dont represent their beliefs , but if they were for Obama these people would be bragging that he was ahead of Clinton. This is why obama is not going to win thw vote , look at who his followers are...

    October 17, 2007 06:32 pm at 6:32 pm |
  9. john adkisson, sacramento, california

    As a former campaign manager who used polling extensively in my work - these poll results are not at all great news for Clinton. In fact, the results show that the national numbers are in total flux. More than half of the voters do not know who they will end up supporting - and the African-American community is split by gender, meaning it is up for grabs too. Donna Brazille's comment (I normally think highly of her) about the "sistah" vote is offensive. Obama is likely to carry the African-American vote, but not despite gender or because of race. It will be because of his visionary candidacy and his effective campaign in key states. These poll numbers indicate that the vote is up for grabs, and that the overall numbers are merely a snapshot of voters' impressions who have not yet been introduced to Obama. Clinton is, from these results, riding the coat tails of the Clinton presidency and her own high name recognition. At the Iowa caucuses, and the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries, voters will be well informed and knowledgable about Obama.

    October 17, 2007 06:34 pm at 6:34 pm |
  10. BajanLuv, Newport News, VA

    AThomas, NY: I don't know where to begin. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Now what? We all know that. To say that Hil can one up Obama when it comes to civil rights–please. It was a grassroots organizer in the poorest neighborhoods in Chicago. He could have gone to a six figure salary out of Harvard. I doubt that southern White men/woman in Fl or LA will vote for Hillary–I really doubt they will. Good way to tout Hillary's civil rights credentials and then insult the only Black, qualified candidate running. Seems like something she should condemn.

    October 17, 2007 06:40 pm at 6:40 pm |
  11. Bea, Hoboken, NJ

    This explains why Clinton is… only leading in Iowa (a white state) by 11 in today's poll!

    Posted By Daniel : October 17, 2007 4:25 pm

    Is this the link that you were trying to copy?


    October 17, 2007 06:47 pm at 6:47 pm |
  12. Lance in Monrovia CA

    I have been knocking on doors for Obama for weeks now and I'll offer my own informal poll from myself and the volunteers around me. I got the addresses I knock on from registered Democrat lists provided by the campaign. I worked a weekend in Nevada and I found NOT A SINGLE HILLARY SUPPORTER out of 200 people spoken with, mostly poor white, black or hispanic. My fiance speaks Spanish and we spoke to a boatload of hispanics.

    In California over three canvass days I have spoken thus far to about 50 people. Again, not a SINGLE HILLARY SUPPORTER. In reality, we average three Obama pledge cards a day per volunteer and the rest, the vast majority of Democrats we've spoken with, remain undecided, still not fully engaged in the race.

    I went to a Democrat party meeting here locally. 30 people in attendance, mostly older and female, mostly white, some hispanic. They asked everyone at the end to stand and say whom they supported. NO ONE supported Hillary. Three supported Obama. One supported Edwards. The rest were again TOTALLY UNDECIDED and not leaning toward Hillary.

    The Obama campaign had a huge canvass this last weekend and results are coming in from across the country. They all say the same, that the Democratic electorate remains undecided, and can be swayed. If they're not with Hillary by now, they're not going to be.

    That's the reality on the ground, take it or leave it, but I've seen it first hand.

    October 17, 2007 06:56 pm at 6:56 pm |
  13. Mia, Stafford, VA

    Can someone PLEASE tell me what President Clinton did so much specifically for African Americans?

    I am a fan of President Clinton, but I'm not sure what all this is about. FMLA – Chris Dodd's idea and helps everyone
    Welfare to Work – Blacks are not the majority that were on welfare

    So someone please tell me what he did for Blacks.

    Regarding Mrs. Clinton efforts on health care and woman choices, what has she actually achieved?

    Obama 08

    October 17, 2007 06:58 pm at 6:58 pm |
  14. anon, new york, ny

    Hillary's support from latino voters also outnumbers Obama.

    Hillary has a very strong lead over her prime challenger Barack Obama among Hispanics in key Democratic primary states. She dominates in California, Texas, New Jersey, Florida and New York- states with early Democratic primaries and huge numbers of delegates.

    You just have to wonder why Obama, being a visible minority himself, does not get the most support from the visible minorities. Obama must have failed to addrss their concerns, or have failed to gain their trust.

    October 17, 2007 06:59 pm at 6:59 pm |
  15. ronnie knoxville, tn.

    who cares ? both of these politicians just want to take more money out of your pocket. your day-to-day life isn't going to change . Look at the issues, not who you like more.

    October 17, 2007 07:06 pm at 7:06 pm |
  16. Joanne Urish, Glasford, IL 61533

    I am having a hard time believing that the black community is favoring Clinton to such a degree as CNN is reporting. In fact, CNN is coming across as being supportive of Clinton, and that is not appropriate. Where is your objectivity?? I am so disappointed in CNN's reporting of this Presidential race. They might just as well come right out and say,"We support Hillary, everybody".
    Obama doesn't stand a chance in such an atmosphere. And it is a crying shame, because he is by far the best candidate we have running......

    October 17, 2007 07:07 pm at 7:07 pm |
  17. Lance in Monrovia CA

    Hey anon, its more likely that, as I've found canvassing for Barack, most hispanic voters are still not paying attention to the race and know only Clinton's name. I spent a day at a Latino festival in Vegas, talking to hispanics about Barack. We found that those that have heard of him are downright excited by this son of an immigrant that has spoken in fluent spanish to them and even sang on Mexican radio. Those that hadn't heard of him seemed very willing to listen and by the end of the day we left with a page full of emails and phone numbers.

    The thing that Hillary doesn't realize, is that hispanic voters are going to vote with whomever makes the personal connection with them, which is impossible to do from Hillary's ivory tower.

    They're wide open, and they're going to be a huge factor in both the primary and general. The more time that passes, the more hispanics are going to be lining up with Obama.

    October 17, 2007 07:17 pm at 7:17 pm |
  18. Sarah

    This sample size is so small that it is insignificant.

    I don't know one black woman who is voting for Hillary. Give me a break.

    October 17, 2007 07:19 pm at 7:19 pm |
  19. andy

    Anything showing Clinton beating Obama a black man, is immediately shown as breaking news!!! Has Cnn had a breaking news alert about Deval Patrick endorsing OBAMA????
    hmmmmmm waiting....
    ****crickets chirping****
    they trumpet this poll with a margin of error of EIGHT POINTS!! uselesss, absolutely useless.
    but nothing good about Obama, when he could get something positive in the news.
    thanks cnn.

    October 17, 2007 07:26 pm at 7:26 pm |
  20. pam Eugene, OR

    Shame on you CNN. How can you say "Trouncing" based on a survey with 307 people in 1 state. You really do need some help with you inflamitory headlines. You can't sell us Hil by proclaiming her the winner. Where will your credibility be when the voting starts. You will be right in there with the check stand rags. At least pretent to be fair.

    October 17, 2007 07:27 pm at 7:27 pm |
  21. James, Phoenix AZ

    CNN OPINION POLL – same one used for all of todays articles:

    Hillary trouncing Obama (1212 participants)

    American's Supporting Illegals Staying (1212 participants)

    American's Supporting SCHIP (1212 participants)

    The marigin of error is 6.5% (that's HUGE in the world of polling). For each of these various topics – you get the same ideological result (Pro Hillary, Pro Illegal Immigrant, Pro Free Healthcare).

    A biased poll for a biased network!


    October 17, 2007 07:54 pm at 7:54 pm |
  22. athomas, new york, ny

    "I dont know any black supporting Hillary."
    My comment: You have a narrow group of black friends, and should get out more.

    "The poll saying hillary is leading is not accurate, not represent final votes, etc."

    My comments: That statement is often from the losing candidates (e.g,. obama and edwards) or their supporters. If different polls from different polling organizations say that hillary is leading over obama, that is pretty accurate at that particular point of time.

    Obama indicated that a few weeks ago that he would curtail his public appearances. On the other hand, Hillary came out more often in the last weeks explaing her platform and her polls surge and her magin widens from obama. People like what they see and like what they hear from her.

    While there is nothing for sure in politics, I do like Hillary's chance.

    October 17, 2007 08:01 pm at 8:01 pm |
  23. monica, rochester new york

    The Clintons were in power during the 1994 genocide in R-wanda. The U.S. did absolutely nothing. Most Americans didn't even know about it and still don't. As the first lady and one claims to "love" black people so much Hillary should have made it her cause to sound the alarm bell. No Hillary, this black woman remembers your apathy and doesn't think you're deserving to president.

    October 17, 2007 08:03 pm at 8:03 pm |
  24. Dave, Cheverly, MD

    Every African American should be insulted by this miss reporting. That’s like saying a Jewish person is running, but most of the Jews are voting for the Catholic Candidate. It just aint going to happen like that! NO ONE is falling for this attempt to steer folk’s views! In the real world, right or wrong. It doesn’t work that way!

    This is not comparing any Candidate with Dean. But one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?

    SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:

    Dean polls 38%
    Kerry 17%.
    Edwards 12%

    Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
    Dean Iowa 18%

    SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:

    Dean Poll 45%
    Kerry 20%.
    Edwards 2%

    Kerry WINS NH 39%
    Howard Dean 12%
    Edwards 32%

    October 17, 2007 08:05 pm at 8:05 pm |
  25. Q. Christian Atlanta GA

    If the polls were saying that Obama was trouncing Hillary, everyone in Obamaland would be crying out to the heavens in glee. Since the polls are saying that Hillary is winning, everyone is going over board to minimize the significance of the polls. Everyone is always saying it's going to be an upset at the polls and Obama is going to win, but do these people think that Hillary just doesn't have any supporters at all. This is a fact. All the young vibrant people that Obama is catering to historically don't vote in the primaries. This is not a new fact. They talk a good game and say how good Obama will be in office, but game day comes they sit on the bench and all the loyal voters will come out and elect Hillary. If they could vote on myspace or facebook they would, but going to the polls they find that hard to do.

    I find it absolutely amazing that people in Obamaland don't find validity in polls, yet they often point to polls that show Senator Clinton having a high unfavorable rating among potential voters. Is this poll wrong too? Lemme guess, that one is right but the polls indicating Barack being down among blacks is wrong. Get real people you can't have it both ways. All the polls can't be wrong people. Stop living in fantasy land.

    Lastly as a black man, I KNOW Hillary Clinton has enormous support among black people general. I really wish that the black people that post here would admit it too. I don't know of ONE black person and I know LOTS AND LOTS who is supporting Barack Obama– NOT A ONE. All of the people I know who is supporting Obama are white. I don't know why Obama supporters think that CNN is lying or trying to distort facts when the truth really is among black people Obama's support is just not as high as Hillary's.

    Hillary 2008

    ps It's amazing how people criticized Hillary for taking too active a role in Bill Clinton's presidency, but now question whether she has the experience to lead.

    October 17, 2007 08:06 pm at 8:06 pm |
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