October 18, 2007
Posted: 07:45 AM ET

Who are black women supporting? Bill Schneider takes a look.

(CNN) — Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, and Barack Obama, D-Illinois, are both courting blacks as they vie for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. Bill Schneider reports on new CNN poll results about which of the two Democrats blacks are supporting at this point in the race to the White House.

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Jim Bremer   October 19th, 2007 7:52 pm ET

Pam Eugene, please get a life. You can start by no longer being a Obama groupie.

Please try.

pam eugene,OR   October 18th, 2007 9:14 pm ET

Cnn: Why is it that you do not post my comments or you take them down after 5 minutes?
I support Obama and have nothing but contempt for Hillary. I am not mean or ugly with comments about her but it is pretty obvious what I think of her deceitful way of doing things.
Why does every hateful, bigoted word by Jim Bremer make the ticker but you don't want to talk about Barack raising $1.5 millions in less than 2 day or the fact that he was just endorsed by the Only black govenro in the US. Pretend you are trying to be unbiased for a change.
BTW 307 black people in one state is hardly proof positive of your position that HRC has the "black vote".
Obama 08

Colony 14 author, Don F, Mount Prospect, Illinois   October 18th, 2007 5:32 pm ET

How is anyone supposed to raise children who are colorblind and without prejudice if we are continually bombarded with polls, comments, and stories that group blacks, whites, hispanics, women, men, gays, etc. What exactly is a "black issue" anyway? Or a "white issue?" We are a nation of individuals with individual problems, and a government that is supposed to protect out individual rights. Period. Everything else is hyped to sell papers, magazines, or boost ratings. Any politician who courts any group is shameless. Candidates should simply explain how they will best honor and defend the Constitution of the United States. if that isn't good enough for the voters, then they don't deserve our Constitution.

Thomas, Chicago, IL   October 18th, 2007 5:11 pm ET

Oh give me strength…
Once again, so that everybody can hear…

BLACK does not necessesarily mean DEMOCRAT!!!

Mickey, Miami, Florida   October 18th, 2007 3:33 pm ET

Black women need to wake up.Most black women that support Hillary fit into two catergories: 1) they are voting for Hillary because she is a woman which I found stupid or 2) they are voting for her because they like Bill. Either of the two are not good enough for me given the current situation our country is in. We need to read about Obama's stance on issues and compare them to Clinton's. The crime bill that Clinton has advocated and voted for has disproportionately affected our black men, Sisters, how can you vote for her? Hillary is condescending to black women, hillary strategy is to get black female voters and she will do ANY MEAN NECESSARY. Obama 08!

P Brown, OKC   October 18th, 2007 3:20 pm ET

I'm a black female and I support Barack 100%. I have never been polled by anyone and to have such a small sampling of so-called voters, it a disservice to the democratic process. Now, exactly who did the pollster talk to? Was it folks on the street or what? I don't put too much into any of these polls at this time and all I can say, remember Howard Dean. Remeber John Kerry.

CJ, Richmond, VA   October 18th, 2007 3:17 pm ET

By the way, has anyone noticed how Hillary has FLIP-FLOPPED YET AGAIN! NOW says she WOULD have talks with IRAN, but when Barrak said it he was "naive & frankly irresponsible?" This woman can say whatever she thinks will make people happy who are sitting in front of her at the moment, and CNN will not report her inconsistancies. She supposedly has had a "Flawless" campaign. Yes, because it is airbrushed by CNN every day!

Dave, Richmond, VA   October 18th, 2007 2:54 pm ET

"I support (A) because they're a (B) like me!" Are people in this country really so politically lazy that they'll support a candidate based on arbitrary classifications like gender or race? I guess it's a step up from "who I'd like to have a drink with"

Anonymous   October 18th, 2007 2:52 pm ET

I doubt Jim bremer can afford to make a campaign contribution.

Deborah - Atlanta, GA   October 18th, 2007 2:43 pm ET

With the way our government is trying to destroy the races (black, Asian,spanish)you name it. If you are not white, only thing needed from any other race is taxes or buy my goods…. so I can get wealthy. Some say blacks are not intelligent…. I say we are smart enough to know Obama is needed in the White House.

Thomas, Chicago, IL   October 18th, 2007 2:42 pm ET

Why in the world does everyone assume that African-Americans are all Democrats? Some of us are Independent, Republican, and just about all other points on the political spectrum. How patronizing!!!!

Maria, Houston   October 18th, 2007 1:48 pm ET

Obama campaign just received $1,500,000.00( yes,ONE AND HALF MILLION), within last two days. All in small donations. How's that for people's support?!

Since CNN is so fond of polls, I'd like to se opinion polls about quality and accuracy of cable news.Ha-ha.

And to you Jim Bremmer, I'm so glad that you're not on our side…

Barack the Vote, Des Moines, IA   October 18th, 2007 1:23 pm ET

Can a Hillary supporter please inform me of what SHE has done for African-Americans??? I am struggling to find out what she has done… Probably because the answer is nothing.. Black people are saying they are voting for Hillary because of Bill.. I am a black man and it saddens me that black people, both men and women, don't look at the issues and just go with a name. Bill did some things, but not nearly enough and if you look at Hillary's voting record, there are a few votes that go against black people.. Wake up and realize the issues, not the name. We are smarter than that and I hear in the black communities all this talk about CHANGE and the qualities wanted in a president. We FINALLY get a candidate, whether black or white, who fits the criteria and the black community is still torn.. A vote for Hillary is a wasted vote in these primaries.. SHE has the best interest of HER in mind, no one else..well maybe corporate lobbyists and the rich as well.. Wake up America, we have a chance with Barack.. Let's take advantage of it.

RuthieM   October 18th, 2007 1:06 pm ET

I think that comment from some professor today saying that whites are more intelligent than blacks holds true then, especially among black women then, because how in the world Clinton leads and by such a wide margin among blacks and black women is one of if not the dumbest thing happening in America today and I truly pray blacks wake up before going to vote!

Early, Charleston, SC   October 18th, 2007 12:56 pm ET

Here in SC they local blacks said they were voting for Obama simply because he was black. Ignorance at it's best

straighttalker   October 18th, 2007 12:03 pm ET

The dems are deconstructing the black vote the same way their socialist policies have deconstructed the black community, values and family..

Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA   October 18th, 2007 11:57 am ET

Blacks should aks themselves what either Obama or Clinton has done for them lately and resist the temptation to nominate a Democratic candidate who is unelectable in the general (both of them).

D   October 18th, 2007 11:36 am ET

Here is your Criminal Hillary Clinton::

Hillary’s “Crime On Tape” Protected By CA Appellate Court

In a ruling handed down today on whether Hillary Clinton should be given first amendment protection for civil frauds she committed to fund her US Senate campaign, a three judge California appellate panel, including two appointees by Gov Grey Davis who had worked in the same law firm together representing the ACLU, ruled that it would not allow newly released video evidence capturing Hillary in election law violations because:

“Because it would be inappropriate for us to decide on appeal whether Senator Clinton or Clinton for Senate violated federal law in connection with the solicitation of Paul’s in-kind contributions, Paul’s motion to admit a videotaped recording of a July 17, 2000 telephone call among Paul, Stan Lee and Senator Clinton in which they discuss the Hollywood Tribute and his request for judicial notice related to this issue are denied.”

The court also denied consideration (judicial notice) of court testimony by admitted Clinton agent to Paul, Jim Levin, who testified that he was delegated by the Clintons to initiate the illegal campaign solicitation from him on their behalf.

Paul v Clinton will now proceed against the remaining defendants, former President Bill Clinton, Grammys producer gary Smith and strip club owner James Levin, who exhausted their appeals to the California Supreme Court in 2004 and their trial date for March, 2007 will now be reset for 2008 with Hillary Clinton guaranteed by the judge to be required to testify under oath as a material witness.

Monte Brown, New York, NY   October 18th, 2007 11:15 am ET

Of course black women support Hillary over Obama. Black women have been heading black households for the longest and they are smarter than black men when it comes to the pocket book. I am one brother who is not in denial and afraid to admit this fact. Black women earn more per capita than black men in America, and they know much better. Black men should listen more to their women.

Obama should have joined the Clinton team earlier and his continuing criticism of Hillary is starting to make many a bit skeptical of his intentions. Giuliani is gaining in the national polls. Obama knows that he can’t beat Giuliani, but Hillary Clinton surely can beat Giuliani. Obama is just making it harder for Hillary. I see why Hillary feels that it is hard running for president as a woman. Even though her gender has nothing to do with her ability to lead this nation, we still have these men who are stuck on fear inadequacy and insecurity. They just want to stop Hillary, and that is awful. Not that gender or race matters, but I never thought that a black man would make it difficult for someone who obviously cares about all American people. This just goes to show that Obama is just an egomaniac, and we don’t need that in the White House. Hillary is still the most qualified candidate to lead this nation and everybody knows that. Denial will get us nowhere. Supporters of Obama know that he can’t win the general election, which leads me to believe that his supporters just want to see a Republican in the White House again. Obama supporters remind me of the kid that never got picked in a game of flag football, or the one who lost the game for the team if he did get picked. Obama is a Republican-Lite. What is wrong with Obama? No real Democrat would go against the grind and make it bad for the party of compassion. Hillary is the visionary. Hillary has the plans for a better America. With Hillary we will fight the terrorists where they are and not have to declare all out war. Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. She is the most qualified, the most experienced, and she’s READY TO LEAD.

Ron, TX   October 18th, 2007 10:04 am ET

The Only Black Governor in the United States just announced he will be endorsing Barack Obama. Specifically, he made a great point, he said that now is not the time to play favors to friendships and party loyalty. It's time for a new generation to fundamentally change Washington, not just change names, but change paths, change foreign policy, we can't be afraid to talk to foreign leaders. We can't be afraid to embrace comprehensive energy reform. We, as a Nation, cannot stand 4-8 more years of partisan divide and bickering that will inevitably come from another Clinton presidency. Things need to get done.

James, Minneapolis, MN   October 18th, 2007 9:59 am ET

This poll has no credebility. I don't think black people are supporting her at the same rate whites are, plus with a margin of error at 8 percent I am surprised CNN even had the nerve to make a story out of it. I would bet that the margin of error is even higher than that.

Arshad, Newburgh, NY   October 18th, 2007 9:42 am ET

This is what real voters in IOWA are saying:

http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1296

"Although I'm still a big supporter of Bill Clinton, I don't feel the same way toward Hillary," Boeve added. "In fact, she's at the very bottom of my list, and I can't see how she's leading in the polls. I haven't met anyone who is supporting her, but I keep hearing she's leading by significant margins. Who are these people supporting her, and where are they?"

The voters are asking credibility of polls. MSM, you know the answer.

Tom - Dedham, Mass   October 18th, 2007 9:42 am ET

I am a white guy who left the city to move out into the burbs and lo and behold there are black folks out here as well.

They play cards, watch sports, do yard work, pay bills, go on vacation, go to soccer games, crack a few beers, just like the rest of us.

Now when we sit down and break bread with our wives and children, guess what, we all talk about the same issues and all want the same stuff out of life. The same stuff.

We do bust each other on our skin tone from time to time, but that is what FRIENDS DO, not black friends or white friends, BEST FRIENDS.

They resent politicians purposely and "supposedly" pandering to them.

I couldn't agree with them any more.

Mark R. Fort Lauderdale FL   October 18th, 2007 9:40 am ET

Black voters, just like white voters, see that she is the best candidate, period. I hope she chooses Obama as her runnning mate.

Mark, Vermilion, Ohio   October 18th, 2007 9:39 am ET

Last time I checked, the color of your skin shouldn't change your views.

Everyone breathes air, drinks water, and bleeds red blood.

This nation will continue to have so called "race-issues" as long as the news media continues to make everything, and pardon the pun, black and white.

Maddoxx, NY,NY   October 18th, 2007 9:30 am ET

Black women do not like a black woman who posses as better than them - they don't like Michel Obsama because she ain't down as Hillary.

laurinda,ny   October 18th, 2007 9:23 am ET

When all is said and done all the Democrats will ban together to vote for Hillary. Then eventually we will be able to get our lives back in order. This is ridiculous the way we are forced to live under the Republicans!

female, jewish, caucasian, i have black/gay/fill-in-the-blank friends   October 18th, 2007 9:22 am ET

As usual, some real crack reporting by CNN. Thank you so much, Bill Schneider, for pointing out that black women vote both as blacks AND as women. Next up on the CNN Totally Obvious Ticker: Survey Shows Population Subgrouping More Complex Than Previously Thought.

therealist   October 18th, 2007 8:55 am ET

Yes, and let deconstruct the black vote over the last 30yrs too, then it becomes obvious that blacks don't expect much for their vote..

Dave, Cheverly, MD   October 18th, 2007 7:25 am ET

There is NO "Black Vote" That’s like saying a Jewish person is running, but most of the Jews are voting for the Catholic Candidate. It just aint going to happen like that! NO ONE is falling for this attempt to steer folk’s views! It doesn’t work anymore!

This is not comparing any Candidate with Dean. But one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?

SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:

Dean polls 38%
Kerry 17%.
Edwards 12%

Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
Dean Iowa 18%

SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:

Dean Poll 45%
Kerry 20%.
Edwards 2%

Kerry WINS NH 39%
Howard Dean 12%
Edwards 32%

Stacy, Baton Rouge LA   October 18th, 2007 3:48 am ET

We, African people, have different issues that we have to worry about that whites do not. THERE IS STILL RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERYDAY. I am happy that the candidates are caring about our vote, as much as everyone else's vote. I don't think you have to worry about the same stuff that we do.

ronnie knoxville, tn   October 18th, 2007 1:21 am ET

i can't believe any black woman would buy into hillary's "im a victim just like you' - we're all victims" schtick. the reason hillary uses that platform is to convince people that they "need' the gub'ment, to make people dependent on the gub'ment and to get votes by telling people they can't run their own lives, they need the gub'ment to do it for them.

Mitty, Miami, Florida   October 17th, 2007 11:47 pm ET

I am a blck woman and I am supporting Barack Obama.

Jon, Boston, MA   October 17th, 2007 11:42 pm ET

What is the "black vote"? Are they so radically different from other people that they have their own special concerns? Shouldn't there be concern for all people by politcal candidates? Aren't there universal human needs that need to be addressed?

Patrick McWeiss   October 17th, 2007 10:41 pm ET

Superb reporting CNN!! Thank you so much. It's very dark outside in the Northeast. I'm drinking dark chocolate inside my ebony-colored study. Though the walls are brown, the trim is deep black.

Arshad, Newburgh, NY   October 17th, 2007 10:18 pm ET

I see a HUGE headline on Hillary's lead among black voters on CNN based on just 307 samples. May I expect a headline saying the ONLY black governor of the nation, MA governor Deval Patric is endorsing Senator Obama? Can we be fair and professional in covering Obama headlines?

andy farmington hills mi   October 17th, 2007 10:15 pm ET

yeah he takes a look alright, playing up Clinton's support.
Never mind she called a black man NAIVE AND FRANKLY IRRESPONSIBLE ON IOWA RADIO.
whatta horrible horrible thing to say. Other blacks may not have a problem with it…BUT I DO
there's a way to disagree with someone respectfully and she went way over the top. But everytime somebody says something about her she and her supporters PLAY THE VICTIM.
Can you imagine if Obama had said she was being NAIVE AND FRANKLY IRRESPONSIBLE if he disagreed with a statement she made before she had time to clarify herself???

Jim Bremer   October 17th, 2007 10:03 pm ET

Why are black women flocking to Hillary ?

three little words :

Burqa Hussein Osama

Democrat Flipfloppers Boston MA   October 17th, 2007 10:03 pm ET

Why do you make such an issue of what color people are ? I think most people don't care what color someone is. Why don't you quit trying to make such an issue of it. Run an election on the things that matter.

Jeff from Jersey   October 17th, 2007 9:59 pm ET

I guess you didn't read the poll results.How about that?A rerun already!

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