CNN

yes, georgina- the world should be black and white with no grey area needed. that is the way it should be but politics (pile o tricks) and religion tend to grey it up. oh yes, you can use science to bend it your way just like people use the bible to bend it their way, too.

Humm...1,212 people are far from a majority of Americans. And Values include more than abortion and gay marriage. These are Republican issues. And all of us are not Republicans. I am Independent.

What about feeding the poor, education, the evironment, homelessness, etc. These are values as well; yet, we rarely discuss them.

I do not believe in the bible as a literal document. It has been put together by a bunch of white men centuries ago and we know, if we are honest with ourselves that white men (or any group) will put themselves above all others.

My personal GOD loves everyone and does not punish anyone. After all, did not GOD (the creator), create everything and everyone perfectly as we are??? My personal GOD did not make any mistakes. Each person is choosing how to live their life. For me, hate and taking away GOD given rights are not apart of how I live and love GOD and my fellow human-beings.

Love each other is the major blessing Jesus sent to us and it is distressing that so many people feel that it is good and GOD sent for us to judge, discriminate, and hate; and they use GOD, Jesus, Yaweh, Creator, whatever you want to call that Source to justify it.

For SHAME on all of those who do not truly believe GOD is love. If you say it is alright to hate in any form, then you can not believe in GOD and the good news.

In the face of over-population, abortion may enventually save this planet. I would contribute heavily to any program that promoted birth control. Gay mairrage might actually be a blessing in diguise.

Let me say it again..

According to this CNN poll, the majority of American's agreed with Republican Christian values.

WOW!! I can't believe CNN actually put this on the ticker..

Posted By RightyTighty : October 19, 2007 11:03 am

The poll did not indicate that a majority of Americans would then proceed to choose their political affiliation, their president, or their government based on these values. The poll also did not indicate that a majority of Americans would like their government to enforce these values as law.

I don't like abortion, and would prefer that it not exist. But when it comes to abortion and the rule of law, I want the freedom to exercise my values by making my choice not to have an abortion. Leave me my choice, and you let me make that potentially difficult decision to do what's right. Take it away, and then what good are values and principles and moral convictions? We can only obey.

I happen to have absolutely no problem with gay marriage whatsoever. If I were to find one, however, that wouldn't automatically lead me to conclude that it had to be made illegal, or that I needed to vote for James Dobson next November, or that I had to start identifying myself as a Republican Christian conservative.

I for one would like to be able to do the right thing simply because it's the right thing.

I also can't help wondering why there are so many people in America for whom what does or does not go into a man's bottom is a moral litmus test.

Just as I was losing hope in our country, I find that there is still in fact a majority of people (56%) who acknowledge the fact that homosexuality is absolutely immoral. Thank you, America, for continuing to stand up for basic morality.

I wish there was a candidate running who was both socially liberal..and fiscally conservative....wait...its Giuliani....(I don't believe he would of supported the Woodstock museum for a cool million....in a childrens healthcare bill....very very telling....watch....if this becomes an issue....she will have Schummer fall on the sword for it.....the Clinton machine will NOT accept responsibility for any of its actions...)

there's a reason the male and female bodies fit together, it's natural. Don't mess with nature. Abortion is murder. Nuff said

Ok this god stuff has got to stop! For one and the poll came out the way on gay-marriages because once again they didn't poll an average american they polled someone who goes to church. God is not in america and he isn't going to stop what is happening in the world so get over it. Gay-marriage is a personal matter and shouldn't be an issue. Abortion is only accectpable when there is a certain issue at hand. So next time CNN get's the nereve to poll people about these to subject's let's poll people who don't worship god in every corner of there life.

Abortion is far worse than the illusion of "gay marriage." It involves the slaughter of millions of innocent children.

When America didn't abolish slavery we ended up with a civil war.

I don't know what will come if we don't rid ourselves of the scourge of infant murder, but I don't doubt that one day we will look back at 1973 – when abortion ends as a dark period in our history.

ThirstyJon
freedomthirst.com

Abortion is murder.

Marriage is an institution that has historical ties with religion. I don't know of any religion that allows gay marriages. But most governments in the world allow Civil Marriages. Many people choose to be married in a secular ceremony for various reasons.
If you are against gay marriage for religious reasons, fine by me. However, most people don't conduct their lives so devout and piously. I think we need to make religion a private matter for all people. Stop trying to convert people. Think of how few wars would be fought and how many people would be alive if religion didn't play such a big role in our lives.

All of the gay people that I know have stated that they were born that way. To my knowledge, there is no conclusive proof of a biological factor that makes a person gay or straight. Regardless, I see no reason for why the same rights conferred upon to straight couples cannot also be applied to gay couples in a civil marriage. David from AZ, I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. I do not see gay marriage as a new right. As long as two people love each other, they should be allowed to marry monogamously in a civil union.

James, Phoenix, AZ
I agree with your statements about parenting and no accepting ALL behavior. However, the behavior part is what bothers me. You obviously feel that being gay is wrong. That is your choice, but instead of thinking that gay is wrong, why not think of it as being different.

Thank you to the thoughtful individuals who pointed out that abortion is a highly private and personal matter – don't like it? Don't do it. Your choice.

In re: gay marriage, I dearly wish that everyone who salivates about this would realize that, in order to be "married" here, you first have to have a "license" from the government that grants certain civil rights. THEN you can choose (or not) to have this legal contract recognized via a religious ceremony. I think gays rightfully are demanding the civil liberties that this government grants to couples who commit to the contract.

What say?

Hairy? Sweaty? Works for me!

Bud in San Diego

Abortion and gay marriages are primarily personal issues and don't affect the Christian bible thumpers but they feel it necessary that they improve other people's behavior.
I would prefer that they addressed the stupid war; outrageous deficit, loss of jobs in the U.S.; shrinking dollar; lack of healthcare; soaring gas prices.
No one is concerned that you cannot go into a department store or electronics shop and find more that 2 items made in the U.S.
What the hell is important to you people?

Abortion should be allowed in all circumstances but only for the first trimester, unless there is risk of injury to the mother or child after those first three months. Also, homosexuals should be allowed to marry and all groups should recognize same-sex marriages as a regular marriage. As another comment read, why should the majority of Americans disregard the rights of others. Especially those who want to be happy and to be with the ones they love. How can you deny a person the right to a "pursuit of happiness?" This is one of our unalienable rights written in the most important document in the history of the world, the Declaration of Independence. Gay marriages and abortions are going to become legal everywhere in the United States very soon. The youths of today have views that everyone is equal, including gays and women who choose, unlike the majority of Americans it seems. We know that you cannot deny rights of people that most Americans want to deny them: the right of women to choose and the right of gays to marry. The political and social climate of America is shifting more with my generation than any other before.

Mary – Mountain View,

Aside from your anecdotal evidence (because YOU say so... or because a certain segment of the Gay population suggest it was "from birth")... WHERE is your evidence?

You assert something to be a fact (Being gay is genetic) – yet there is not any concrete evidence to support this statement.

Over a billion people suggest Jesus was the Son of God. Does that know become a FACT for everyone to accept?

James of AZ: "Sorry Leo – but you're stating something which is NOT a fact. SHOW us any scientific data which has found the "gay" gene."

So you're saying that homosexuality is choice? Sorry to inform you, but it's not. NO ONE chooses to become gay. Either you're born with it or you're not. Easy and simple.

If it were a choice, why then would so many people choose something that is still considered taboo/immoral by much of society? Do you think they choose to live a life of judgment, ridicule, condemnation on the basis of their orientation? Even the Roman Catholic Church, one of the most vocal opponents
of gay marriage, acknowledges that gay people are born they way they are.

And I meant to say it is definitely NOT for me to decide whether anything is conclusive.

To James, Phoenix AZ: I was not trying to offend anyone. I honestly never have seen what the big deal is due to having friends that are gay. But there is some scientific proof out there of gay being genetic, whether any of it is conclusive or not is definitely for me to decide. As far as I'm concerned we should all be allowed our own beliefs and our own choices without someone else getting upset and interfering. But that will probably never happen.

For some other people (religious) out there, and this probably will get me hit at for saying, but oh well. I leave you all some questions.

Is there really proof that God exists? Is there really proof that the bible wasn't just written as someone's fiction or as a way to have power and influence over us? And to those that say that there was nothing before he created us... If there was nothing, then how was he created? Is it just that we need to believe in something greater in order to live?

These questions are only meant for people to actually take a chance and see some other peoples views. So don't go jumping off your rockers anyone.

Sorry, my spell check is on vacation!

I keep hering that aboortion is private matter. The truth is it tickles down to te whole of society. In china, mny men will never marry because baby girls were killed becuase everyone wanted sons. Let me bring it a little closer to home. How many childer (if allowed to live) would have grown up to be honest citzens and tax payers? Maybe, just maybe we wouldn't have issues with social security right now! It is not a private matter! I haven't even mentioned the Christian arguement! Anybody want to hera the Cht

"I am amused by the right wing so called conservatives who oppose abortion but support the death penalty."

Don from LA: This blind question can be easily answered. HOPEFULLY we can all still agree that it is wrong to lie. But there are many heros of WWII who lied to the Nazis about keeping Jewish refugees in their homes. The DIFFERENCE between abortion & the death penalty is that ABORTION is the taking away of INNOCENT life, the DEATH PENALTY is for the taking of a MURDERER's life. How much more clear can this be?!

Leo – LA, CA

Writes, "First of all people that are gay, it is genetic people it canNOT be changed and it is completely wrong to take their rights away because they don't fall into your christian ways."

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Sorry Leo – but you're stating something which is NOT a fact. SHOW us any scientific data which has found the "gay" gene.

You can't.

And actually the Gay/Lesbian Community bristles at the notion of such a 'gay' gene even existing because it would give implication that somehow being gay is a genetic mutation – a genetic "mistake".

State your opinion – but try to balance theory from scientific facts. Please.

Duncan Hunter wouldn't even come close to getting my vote as would none of the rest of the candidates so clearly in the front running. The Democrats are just going to end up making us pay more taxes, which people hello get real we work hard for our money. I don't think we should have to give the government a single dang dime of our hard earned money. And the republican side are all against things that should be our rights for freedom. Shoot I will be glad if the comedian Colbert runs, I'd surely vote for him to get these crappy people off the roster. And oh yeah anyone voting for Hillary should have their head examined anyways. Her as a first female president would disgust me. Bill Clinton didn't do crap for us, why the heck do you people think his wife is going to? Hello? Are we stupid? I say if she wins... YUP

Proud2bliberal writes,

"True karma would be James from Phoenix or Chris from Fl having a gay child. Then let's see how you feel about gay marriage. It's one thing to say you oppose gay marriage it's quite another to look your child in the eye and tell them they don't deserve the same things that you do."

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Typical liberal thinking/parenting... "oohh it's MY child so NOW I'll think it's unfair!!"

Good parenting is loving your children for WHO they are. Good parenting is helping children understand REAL life – it's rewards, challenges, and sometimes how it might seem unfair to some. Good parenting is teaching kids to be personally responsible for their own choices and actions – not relying on the Government to "save" them (nanny-state). And good parenting teaches kids to LOVE everyone – but to not accept ALL behavior.

Your statement of me telling my son about churches not accepting gay marriage would be as heart-breaking as him learning to men having sex can not produce a child.

Posted By David, Arlington, VA: "That has got to be the DUMBEST reason for denying gays equal rights. A straight man wouldn't want to marry another straight man, and a gay man wouldn't want to marry a woman, so what the heck are you talking about??"

You seemed to have missed the point, which doesn't surprise me. Actually, David, marrying a person of the same sex is indeed a new right. It is not the same right. It is a new right.

Gay people are not being denied any right to marry that a straight person has. To make it very clear a person, regardless of their sexuality has the right to marry another person of the opposite sex. EVERY person has this right.

A person, regardless of their sexuality, does not have the right to marry another person of the same sex. NO person has this right.

Marrying someone of the same sex is NEW right. It would be a right shared by everyone regardless of sexuality.

Gays need to stop playing the victim card. It does nothing but alienate those who might help champion their cause.

And by the way, I know a number of gay men, and women for that matter, that have been married to people of the opposite sex. They also have children *gasp*

Has anybody reviewed Duncan Hunters
stance on Gay Marriages, abortion,
and illegal immigration?

It seems the Republican Party is focused on candidates that flip-flop
on these issues when Duncan Hunter
has been consitent since he has been
in Congress.

Or is it the media that is pushing to
have Hillary as our next president
and not willing to focus on honest
candidates like Duncan Hunter.

And I can't keep my comments out on the alcohol and tobacco crap mentioned somewhere in the above comments as suicide. Ya know what we are all going to DIE someday. Why do you want to make people's lives miserable telling them what they should and shouldn't do. Our lives should be our own. Your beliefs and my beliefs should be left at the door. If a person wants to do these things it is their right and it shouldn't be taken away from them just because you say it should!

True karma would be James from Phoenix or Chris from Fl having a gay child. Then let's see how you feel about gay marriage. It's one thing to say you oppose gay marriage it's quite another to look your child in the eye and tell them they don't deserve the same things that you do.

What makes me the most sick about this are two things. First of all people that are gay, it is genetic people it canNOT be changed and it is completely wrong to take their rights away because they don't fall into your christian ways. 2nd of all, there are too many people in the US now as it is... I'm not saying that abortion should be legalized for everything. But MOST people have legitimate reasons for doing so. It should NOT be our right to decide. I think people focus on these two issues WAY too much. They are nowhere near an issue to me, except for I don't think that there should be laws hurting people because they feel they have ownership of us all. The drug war is more of an issue than any of this crap. How many of you people out there can get pain medicine anymore? All they give is ibuprofen. Want to know why? Because they think we are all addicted. That's right, because of one sorry fool, we people that have real pains don't get anything. So yeah I think this is a pathetic thing to keep arguing over. Our freedom has been long gone. People want others to take care of them. Therefore the government keeps taking the independent minded people's rights away. I should have control over my life unless it effects someone elses. Period. End of Story and so should everyone else!!!!

David – Arlington, VA

Your wrote, "That has got to be the DUMBEST reason for denying gays equal rights. A straight man wouldn't want to marry another straight man, and a gay man wouldn't want to marry a woman, so what the heck are you talking about?? Contrary to what you say, it is NOT a new right: gays simply want to enjoy the SAME legal rights that heterosexual couples enjoy."

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Ohhhh... It's all about WANT and not about equal application of the same law???

Ok David,

I WANT my white son to receive a scholarship from the NAACP.

I WANT my son to have a right to play on the girls college softball team (since no boys team is available).

I WANT to be able to run for the Presidency (disregard that I was born in Ireland).

I WANT to pay the same tax rate as folks in the bottom of the income spectrum.

Talk about a lack of critical thinking, David. Go back to square one and ask – DOES the current laws allow ALL men to marry women (regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc).

THINK man!

Forcing a woman to have a child reduces that woman to a status similar to that of cattle. We force breed animals, not humans. If that is a problem for you flat-earth-society types, then offer up birth control on demand. PERIOD.

As for gay marriage, long, long, long overdue. To all of you still living in caves and worshipping some ficticious hairy thunderer: I 100% support your right to beleive what you will, but please do not make all of us de-evolve with you. Go get together and do your thing, and I would even defend your borders.

But, in time, you will need to accept that times are changing, and that some of us want to build a world based on intellect, equality, progressive thought, and just good old fashioned curiousity to learn about the universe around us. Whether you like it or not, it WILL happen.

It is true that most Americans agree with these issues,because its the mainstream.
The figures will be even higher among African Americans who are more socially conservative when it comes to abortion and Gay rights.It is the media that has made us to believe that people are more tolerant on these issues but when you go out on the streets and ask poeple to give an opinion you will see the real reaction.
Most people vote democrat anyhow but if was really to come down to these issues they would recieve less than 15%of the vote,people with ideas out of the mainstream

"Can a straight man marry another man? No.

Can a gay man marry a woman? Yes.

Same law applies equally to all people. Gay Marriage is a NEW right which Americans do not support. Civil Unions may have a prayer… but marriage – no sir." – James, Phoenix

That has got to be the DUMBEST reason for denying gays equal rights. A straight man wouldn't want to marry another straight man, and a gay man wouldn't want to marry a woman, so what the heck are you talking about?? Contrary to what you say, it is NOT a new right: gays simply want to enjoy the SAME legal rights that heterosexual couples enjoy. In other words, legal rights of marriage should apply to ALL U.S. citizens, so what difference does the gender or sexual orientation make? Gays want the same rights as straights (not new ones), so your argument is completely invalid. Finally, how would you, personally, be negatively affected by gays having those same rights? Oh right, you wouldn't be.

As for Chris from Florida's comments (about the hairy legs), that guy clearly has some unresolved issues...

I am amused by the right wing so called conservatives who oppose abortion but support the death penalty. I hear many of them say adoption is an option. Right. Maybe they should do their research. Living in a foster home is not a happy alternative and the adoption process in this country is so expensive and daunting that many families give up and look elsewhere. So once that child turns 18, the state funded group home basically tosses him/her out on her own. With no money, no family and no higher education many of these young adults turn to crime to survive and then the same party that fought so valiantly to save that precious life so many years ago, will be the first to flip the switch and watch the young adult die. Even if by the way that young adult happens to be mentally impaired. Late-term abortion should only be used in medical emergencies and most rational women know this but early term abortions are sometimes the only answer for the 14 year old incest victim, or raped woman..etc etc. Some of you say it takes two and the man should have a say. I agree with that but then if the woman gives birth the man should have 100% both physical and financial responsibilty for that child and the same vice versa.

If Americans were serious about "values" they wouldn't even consider an angry lesbian who'll illegally tape her opponents coversations because she's afraid her sexual predator husband might expose their fake marriage and hurt her political opportunities.

No, let's get back to discussing how Hillary looked on "The View".

I'll admit I speak in fragments and thoughts that make sense to me, sorry about that. It's actually nice to know I've touched a nerve or two. My main goal is to persuade others to abandon homosexuality. The reality is, I love you all. I want only happiness for everyone. However, our maker (whomever they might be to you) has expressly forbid homosexuality. He hates it. I suppose you say God commits hate crimes by denouncing homosexuality.

I want to be clear, I do not hate anyone, regardless of their orientation. I do want the chance to share with you our makers intentions, because in the end, you will suffer for it.

It's ok to poke fun at me. If you really knew me, you would love me. Do you really think your insults (which don't make much sense) affect me? You can't be a follower of Jesus in this immoral country without thick skin.

By the way, you can say I follow someone you can't see. Which takes more faith? I can say your man made reports are false and misleading. How many times has science reversed positions regarding various theories? Can our government make up reports saying a particular country has weapons of mass destruction? Then know this, false reports can and are made. You might not see this evil, but it's designed by a force you have no control over. It guides you and nurtures you into a dark army to attack the children of light.

I love you and pray for you at this time. There will be a time we will fight, and then you will know the wrath. I beg you to return to the light.

Marriage is one man and one woman, period."

To you, Dictator Boy, and not to others. If marriage is so wonderful, why do OVER HALF of marriages these days end in divorce?

" Not three women and one man, one man and one woman."

Sounds like you have an active fantasy sex life.

Posted By Steve, Lyons, CO : October 19, 2007 2:35 pm

This is just about rights, eh Steve?

I will march right alongside you if it means civil unions and all attached rights for gays.

Sorry if that makes me "Dictator boy", in your feeble mind as in reality it would make me "Majority boy".

Just so you understand the three women and one man point, that means that one can't have multiple wives.

Welcome back, have you been out long?

Chris in FL said, Nevertheless, gay IS WRONG. It's nasty for one thing. How can two dudes having sex be beautiful, romantic, and heavenly with sweaty hairy legs?

Apparently neither gay men nor straight European women can have beautiful, romantic or heavenly sex.

This column was clearly written or framed by a Republican.

>>>RightyTighty: According to this CNN poll, the majority of American's agreed with Republican Christian values.

CNN: only about one in five Americans want to prevent abortions from happening under any circumstances

Do the math. One in Five = 20%. That is 20% who support "Republican Christian Values". Sounds about right. That means that 80% of the country believe that abortion should be legal in some circumstances. 80%. That is 240,000,000 out of 300,000,000 US population.

240 million people believe that abortion should be legal. Btw, just in case you forgot, a majority is 50%+. Agree with the first commenter, this is clearly a non-issue.

"Marriage is one man and one woman, period."

To you, Dictator Boy, and not to others. If marriage is so wonderful, why do OVER HALF of marriages these days end in divorce?

" Not three woman and one man, one man and one woman."

Sounds like you have an active fantasy sex life.

You are all missing the point. Politicians just USE these issues to get you all fired up and vote for them.... then they go ahead and do whatever they want... just as Bush took us into an unnecessary war, decided torture was A.O.K., outed a career spy, shredded the constitution, usurped powers from the Congress... all the while completley deviding the country he promised to unite!! Don't fall for these tactics! If you do, you are just being manipulated. Use your brains... decide who to elect on the REAL issues. Things such as our foreign policy or the economy or social security or health insurance. Stop, take a deep breath, and ignore the politicians when they try to distract you with these phony issues.

"The Bible does tell us we to fight evil, so there is a time and place for war. The Bible translates to "Thou Shalt not Commit Murder, not "Thou Shall Not Kill"."

What, do you just make this crap up as you go? It's: Thou Shalt Not Kill. How can you be so ignorant about the religion you wear on your sleeve like a robot? Geez.

Pretty black and white: all you warmongers, if your deity exists, will be shredded after death.

"So you are saying that the bible, religion, and biology (which is science) doesn't proove gay is wrong?"

The bible and religion have absolutely no relevance in national politics. You sound very confused for being an American citizen.

Biology simply proves that homosexuality exists, even in the animal kingdom (e.g., squirrels) so extremists religions have it totally wrong.

Biology is also proving that homosexuality is inherited. That would put the blame solely on the strange "god" your worship.

It sounds to me like you had an incident in your past you're ashamed of. Otherwise, your post has zero fact and much emotional nothing in it. Congratulations. You sound like a typical anti-science religiously deluded muddle head.

"ie…, the majority of American's agree with Republican Christian conservatives values. WOW!"

No, the vast majority of Americans want abortion kept safe and legal. If that's Christian conservative values, then welcome to the liberal side!

No one likes late term abortions except to save the health or life of the mother.

So we agree. WOW!!

Now, regarding gay marriage, it seems that more and more conservative politicians are homosexual-hating homosexuals. They *practice* gay sex, they just pretend they're against it.

I doubt even a significant minority agree with you here. The Repub hypocrites will open peoples' eyes. Gay marriage will be a reality. You can't stop it.

Chuck – Pendleton, Or

Yes – the Bible is certainly not the ONLY "scripture". Can you cite ANY scripture (Bible, Qur'an, Tanakh, etc) that provides for Gay marriage?

Gay marriage is not and will not be supported by the majority of American People (get over it). Civil Unions have a better chance of existence. But marriage has an overtly religious connotation – and Government interference in religious views will NEVER be acceptable.

RightyTighty said, "the majority of American's agree with Republican Christian conservatives values"

Maybe, but would Jesus?

Funny, but I don't recall Jesus ever preaching against gays, judging women, or advocating war. I don't recall him ever advocating a political platform at all, save perhaps his acquiescence that taxes should be paid, even high taxes. ("Render until Caesar that which is Caesar's" was Jesus' comment on submitting to high taxation.)

I think that's why this nation's forefathers advocated the separation of Church and State. Our forefathers understood what Christianity was–a personal spiritual pursuit, not an excuse to impose our morality upon others. Unfortunately, our “patriotic” Republican party has forgotten this. “Judge not, yest ye be judged” are not words ever uttered by any Christian right-winger.

It’s a pity more Americans don’t understand what our forefathers understood. Our nation would be better if we had stuck a little closer to the original blueprint.

I very much doubt Jesus would support the Republican platform. Jesus advocated peace, giving to the unfortunate, and forgiveness of sins–which are more leftist values than rightwing.

I am so tired of society using gays as a football to kick around. No to marriage, no to equal rights, no to equal employment etc. Also, let's split entire religious denominations just over the fact that gays should be treated as anyone else is. There always has to be a demon, blacks no longer can serve that purpose so gays are now (and always have been) the boogey man/woman. I am more frightened by Christ's followers than I am hell. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one, its that simple. And leave gays alone, it is NOT a choice. Get real and get used to it!!!

People who quote the Bible to make points, keep forgetting that the Bible doesn't govern the country, the constitution does.

Chris, FL
Who are you to decide what is right or wrong? You state that children can be affected by seeing gay people. Don't forget though that for the most part gay people came from two heterosexual persons. What about documented acts of homosexuality in the animal kingdom?
How do we treat the animals who are 'Wrong'?
You state that great empires fell because of being immoral? Please elaborate or cite a source; frankly I doubt you will. Also, I really hope you don't think of the US as an empire.

"The Bible does tell us..." Look around. The Bible is not the only religious scripture in the US, and Christianity is not the only religion. Religious intolerance leads to social and personal intolerance which leads to political conflict and worse–violence. It's about time people opened their hearts instead of their mouths. The US is a diverse, pluralistic nation. To deny this is to deny reality and have one's head in the sand.

This great nation has been generous enough to acknowledge every people's right(s). But yet we as the citizens must be wise and realize that there are certain lines where we shouldn't go beyond those lines. Because if we go beyond those lines, the result is "disaster". I am 100% sure that the government will not need to make any single rule/law if all the citizens are mature and wise enough. But alas, only a few people that can be counted as "wise people" who knows when to claim and when to not claim their rights.

In regards to this abortion and gay marriage issues, in the beginning, they asked only for a part such as civil union right (for gay marriage). But when that one has been granted, they asked more. These are the typical of unwise people.

We all know that abortion is wrong but yet some of you still support it. Instead of supporting that we know it's wrong, why not you teach your daughters (and sons) about being responsible for what we have done. If we do something right, we deserve the rewards but if we do something wrong, we must accept the consequencies including those unwanted babies. Besides if you think it is someone's right to abort the baby, why not it is the baby's right to live?

I agree the government should forbid abortion and gay marriage because there are just too many unwise people/citizens who do not want to be responsible for what they have done, and who are only knowing their rights and keep claiming it.

I agree with everybody who thinks that Abortion and Gay Marriage SHOULD be non-issues. But do NOT delude yourself into thinking that they are meaningless.

The stalwart opposition to these issues (ESPECIALLY GAY MARRIAGE) is proof positive that the our education system has, for past 50 years, been failing to give students the tools and the courage to think critically.

Stunned that CNN puts this out, but of course has to also include some non-relevent piece about Christians meeting this weekend.

The polling was just not christians and conservatives like CNN and some of you are portraying it.

If that was the case with 56% of the people in the hand, Republicans should win in 2009?

I get highly pissed reading the same tired BS from the left that it is just "crazed right-wing bible thumpers that are against gay marriage or gay rights".

Marriage is one man and one woman, period. Not three woman and one man, one man and one woman.

Civil unions should have been discussed in that poll, as I am one of those that would march for civil unions with all attached rights, this is just about rights, isn't it?

I will make two points again, many of the Democrats are also against gay marriage (Clinton amongst them), but yet the venom is only directed at Republicans.

Secondly, the 56% should not be a suprise as the 45 states that were allowed to vote, have overwhelmingly defeated it in ALL states.

All Repubs or red states, nah, don't think so.

I am in the middle with the abortion question, abortion is wrong with the exceptions being rape, incest or if the mothers life is in danger.

To abort a baby because it isn't a good time to have one is morally wrong IMHO.

No bible readings needed to come up with these conclusions, and just like liberals, i am sick of having people make decisions based only on the bible (though I am christian, every thought process does not evolve around it).

As a heterosexual woman I just don't get the fear America has in regards to gay marriage. We heteros aren't doing such a good job of cherishing this institution (divorce rate over 80% in 5 years). If you are a Christian than you know all judgment is up to God so let that happen if it is to happen. In the meantime why deny your fellow Americans, strike that, your fellow HUMAN BEINGS the same rights we have? If you are one of the extremists who think if gay marriage is legalized our society will fall, take a look out your window or watch the evening news. We have child pornography rings with millions in active membership, a senseless war that is claiming the lives of our children, CEOs and government officials making billions while the poor are getting more poor and less educated...is gay marriage really going to make our world fall? I doubt it. As far as abortion goes, I find it ironic that a largely male populated Washington is even allowed to vote on an issue that is a female issue.

Gay Marriage will NOT happen – but you democrats keep crying about how unfair it is.

Can a straight man marry another man? No.

Can a gay man marry a woman? Yes.

Same law applies equally to all people. Gay Marriage is a NEW right which Americans do not support. Civil Unions may have a prayer... but marriage – no sir.

To all of you with your opinions over abortion and gay marriage, if you are not having an abortion or if you are not gay, I say it's none of your busniess, it's definetly none of the governments busness. For those that believe abortion is wrong, and say the majority of Americans believe it is wrong, how about you take all the kids into your home and take care of them, that may slow the abortion rate!!!NOT, that's why we have so many kids in foster care that I don't see, hear, or read about being adopted. Take the stars with all the money, they adopt overseas, WHY, can anyone aswer that, I doubt it. Religion has nothing to do with the choice an individual makes, be it right or wrong, THEY are the ones in the end that will have to answer to GOD, if they believe.

This article, just like every other article that includes poll data, is misleading. It should read, "Americans [who were polled] also disapprove of gay marriages." "...only about one in five Americans [who were polled] want to prevent abortions from happening under any circumstances."

1200 people is approximately .0003% of the entire United States population. The sample is WAY to small to draw any conclussions. It would be like examining a handful of ants and making a scientific evaluation of all ants. The mindset is stupid, which is why articles using poll data are pretty meaningless.

It is fun to watch people get in a tizzy over poll data though. 1200 people can indeed dictate U.S. politics I guess.

should be called a HYPOCRITE summit...you've got all of them together...can you imagine when 3/4 of them don't practice what they preach they just want a politician to spit out their neo-conservative message...hypocrites..hypocrites..

Chris, FL: "How can two dudes having sex be beautiful, romantic, and heavenly with sweaty hairy legs?"

Are you going to shave your legs before you go to heaven?

Also, study after study after study has shown that the majority of child molesters, even those who molest kids of the same sex, are straight. But if your good ol' American gut feeling tells you otherwise, by all means, go with that.

Where are all of the conservatives complaining about the liberal bias of CNN polls in this article like they do with all of the other CNN poll articles?

Oh, wait, my bad, I forgot, they only care when the numbers don't fit their agenda.

Anyone who uses Bronze Age mythology to support their viewpoint instantly loses any credibility on the subject. If only they knew how ridiculous they sound when consulting the rantings of nomadic desert tribesmen. Here's a thought, Christians, try repeating what you say but replacing "Jesus" with "[Insert Mythological Figure Here]" and see how it sounds. Honestly, people, do you think that the ultimate creator of the universe (if one exists) had nothing better to do than promise a warlike tribe a strip of land by the Mediterranean Sea? Are you that incredibly vain and ignorant? For the sake of humanity, please do some research on the subject before claiming to have esoteric insight regarding the desires of the divine. My only hope is that the people of this country can overcome their intellectual laziness and shed their dependence on primitive superstition before it's too late.

No Davis, I don't need a bible or a preacher to figure ANYTHING out, I tend to rely on the teachings of scientific fact as opposed to fiction. It sounds as though your world is black and white with nothing in the middle and perhaps the man and woman you wrote of need be the same colour as well?

I often wonder why private matters are public concerns. Moreover, why the populous fixates on abortion and gay marriage fascinates me. What is this, Jesusland?

Abortion should remain legal. Women have domain over their bodies. No, I don’t like the idea of “killing” babies, but I support the liberties of all people.

Gays should be allowed the same rights as heterosexuals. Religions may dictate their policies on marriage as they wish; however, homosexual civil unions have nothing to do with Christianity. Keeping rights from someone based on his or her sexuality is by no means a just system of government.

…but, who pays attentions to polls anyway?

Well, as I was taught; hate the sin, not the sinner. That is what the Master would do. It is correct that it is He that shall judge so I will not hate but I do not have to sit back and let either of these agendas be forced upon the public.

CJ, you are incorrect. The Bible says: "An eye for an eye." God commanded the Isrealites to kill their enemies on several occasions. He also commanded the taking of life for various offenses including the killing of a baby in its mother's womb. The New Testament gives Gov't the role of executing justice. No one can murder. But Gov't can kill under certain circumstances and must in order to preserve the high value of human life. You murder, you pay the price.

Wow, I want to puke reading some of these. Take a look at a man, take a look at a woman. You don't need a bible or a preacher to figure it out.

Let me state that if you read the original Hebrew, the 10 Commandments do not translate to "Thou shall not kill" but to "Thou shall not murder" because otherwise we would not be able to eat. There is a time for some people to be put to death for horrible crimes, but it must be clear that these people knew what they were doing was wrong and were reminded of it. There must also be no doubt that the person did the crime.

As for these surveys that poll only 1,000 people or so, is that really a good sample size. I would think that the size be more and more groups included. No group with the U.S. is monolithic. What were the questions asked? How were they asked because that matters. These are things that matter when it comes to surveys. Just because you agree with someone on one issue even slightly that doesn't mean that you are going to vote for them all the time.

To Roger from Claremore, Oklahoma, I do not find it any of my business to "preach" as you call it to anyone (unlike you). I believe the preaching was performed best by Christ's disciples. But, I do try to live my life to the best of my ability, not standing in judgment of others for their lifestyles or decisions (unlike you). When a woman is faced with the decision of abortion, that decision is one which should be made by the woman and her physician. I am not saying I would uphold the decision for myself nor do I know what I would do given many of the situations mankind allows us to be put in, but I also do not believe it is my decision which should be forced on another. I know of no where in the Bible that it states that "you" are given the right to stand in judgment of another for any reason whatsoever. But, then again, perhaps my Bible, my Ten Commandments, etc. is not the same interpretation you are referencing. People have differences in opinions, I respect that; however, I am not ready to make a stand and condemn anyone for their choices or sexual preferences.

That is the most absurd arguement point I've ever heard. "How can you say gay is wrong without the bible, religion, and biology?"

That's like saying how can 1+1=2 if you take away the 1, 2, and equation.

So you are saying that the bible, religion, and biology (which is science) doesn't proove gay is wrong?

You are up a creek without a paddle brothers. Somewhere along the line your brainwaves flatlined.

Nevertheless, gay IS WRONG. It's nasty for one thing. How can two dudes having sex be beautiful, romantic, and heavenly with sweaty hairy legs?

Gay is wrong! Why do you think the great empires fell? Immorality takes us all down. You might not affect me across the US, but your actions affect those that witness you. Children that see you will be affected. You are affected. I'd be willing to be that child molestors are gay.

Gay is wrong. It's stupid, immoral, and disgusting.

Apparently majorities don't matter anyway, the majority of the American people want the war to end, yet we're still there. So why does this article matter? - Greg, NY, NY

Because the progressive agenda is to change the majority of American's opinion about abortion and gay sex being wrong while not changing their opinion about the war being wrong. Changing opinions to meet an agends is the goal of corrupt media. Where do you think CNN fits into this?

So in other words, most Americans wouldn't mind seeing everybody who isn't a straight male stuck as second-class citizens. Just like how in 1960, most Americans didn't mind seeing everybody who wasn't a straight, WHITE male stuck as second-class citizens. Eventually, I hope, we'll have the America most of us dream of – one where all people truly are equal – instead of the America we've built.

In the meantime, just keep pandering to the ignorant and the hate-filled, dear "values" politicians – build your legacy. History will, indeed, remember your names someday, though probably not with the endearments you'd wish.

Isn't it convenient how the moral majority "selectively" chooses which issues it wants to champion? They don't champion anti-smoking or anti-drinking campaigns to get rid of tobacco or alcohol. People who consume these products are slowly killing themselves (also known as suicide) which is mentioned in the bible as opposed to abortion which isn't. This is another example of hypocrisy and the poll reflects those who realize it.

First of all, our government shouldn't be defining what marriage is. That's where the legal basis for the anti-gay marriage issue begins. The battle should be to get the concept of marriage removed from our laws and off the books and replaced with the notions of legal guardian and beneficiaries. Marriage is a religious concept, not a political or legal one. We've chosen to make it a legal one and that was tragic mistake.

Second, abortion is something you'll never be able to stop. I see it no differently from selling illegal drugs, prostitution, assault weapons, stealing, killing, or whatever. Whether it's banned or not, people will find a way to do it and we will never be able to regulate who gets one. Why? Because our government is lazy, reactive instead of proactive, and enforces laws as a matter of convenience. This will be the last thing on their minds. Further, there will be pills, devices, and "instructions" posted and sold on the internet. There will be a black market for those who want to get an abortion and it will be quite lucrative. So who are any of you to define where life begins and where a woman's rights to choose what happens to her body and her responsibilities begin? I wouldn't want to make that decision for the women I know.

Keep on telling the truth CJ..."Put your effort into cleansing your own soul, for God is love, and it is His decision to make the final"

If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make the change!

Ms. Laura from Tulsa, Oklahoma, even as you say the Bible states to fight evil, dear heart, it does not state anywhere that killing is justified for any reason. "Thou shalt not kill" is one of the Ten Commandments. This commandment was rewritten through several interpretations. Bottom line, killing is not justified for any reason.

I Find it appalling that someone will preach to Christians about "Thou shalt not kill" but support the murder of unborn children. Then have the audacity to cast your judgment on us while telling us not to judge. Real good one CJ.

Apparently majorities don't matter anyway, the majority of the American people want the war to end, yet we're still there. So why does this article matter?

I agree with Dave from Richmond. These politicians, and their narrow-minded supporters, only seem to care about a chapter or two in the Old Testament. They always talk about Jesus, but never seem to actually follow his teachings of compassion, kindness, charity, and justice for ALL people.

Let me say it again..

According to this CNN poll, the majority of American's agreed with Republican Christian values.

WOW!! I can't believe CNN actually put this on the ticker..

Why is it that what politicians consider "moral values" issues are ones that are personal choices, such as abortion and gay marriage? What about charity, compassion, understanding, and kindness. You know, things Jesus actually talked about...

The Bible does tell us we to fight evil, so there is a time and place for war. The Bible translates to "Thou Shalt not Commit Murder, not "Thou Shall Not Kill".

I don't care that 56 percent of the public is opposed to gay marriage; just because a majority of the public opposes something, that doesn't mean it is wrong and, more importantly, that doesn't mean it is or should be unlawful. Let's not forget that 50 years ago, the majority of Americans were opposed to inter-racial marriages, yet those were not banned by law, so why should gay marriage be any different? Don't bring the religious arguments, because they have ZERO validity in this civil/human rights issue, especially when considering it's lawfulness. Separation of church and state isn't just a bumper sticker slogan, it's a principle our country was founded. We're also a country based on freedom, liberty, individualism, and equal rights. Anyone who opposes gay rights, including marriage, is also opposed to those very principles that America is built on, it's as simple as that. I'd like to hear all those people who oppose gay rights explain how they would personally be affected by gay people having those rights (because they wouldn't) and provide a sound legal justification for why gays should be denied those rights (because there is none).

The fact is that no one can defend their stand to be against gay marriage without bringing the bible or religion into the equation. Yes, you can say that from a biological stand point two men or two women cannot reproduce and since many people associate marriage with procreation they use the argument that it cannot be a valid marriage. using that reasoning then an older man and woman (past their reproductive years) would also not be allowed to marry or a couple who is either infertile or chooses not to have children wkould also not be allowed to marry.
I think most people have a problemn using the word gay and marriage in the same sentence. So, fine let's call it a civil union and allot them all rights given to married couples. The politicians that scare me are the ones who want to ammend our most sacred document to allow the fedreal government to define marriage- very scary.

You appeal to your base. Ninety percent of African-Americans will vote democrat no questions asked, so there's no use for GOP candidates to appeal to African-Americans.

As far as abortion, how many democrat candidates are in the majority: keep abortion legal, but limited?
How many democrat candidates are in the extreme left: abortion on demand, any time, any place, any age for any reason? All of them.

At least there are a few GOP candidates in the middle with the majority.

Safe, legal and rare. That should be our policy.

Say it with me – safe, legal and rare.

Have a nice day!

It's ironic that all the Republican candidates can work this into their schedule, but they don't have the free time to attend Town Hall meetings with African-Americans or Hispanics. Those scheduling conflicts can be sooooo unpredictable.

I believe "Thou shalt not kill" is the same in any language

Not true. In Italian it's "Tu non uccidere."

I find it appalling that those who call themselves Christian conservatives so strongly oppose abortion and gay marriage on one hand yet can support this President, his administration, and a war in Iraq on the other. I believe "Thou shalt not kill" is the same in any language and I know of no where that it states "unless George Bush says so." As for abortion and gay marriage, I do not know of any place in the Bible that it allows one man to judge another. Those decisions are matters of CHOICE, and only our Maker has the right to draw any conclusion regarding those who have elected to pursue that course. I also find it absolute disgusting that a group of people stand so firmly against those with different sexual preferences. In the Bible which I am accustomed to, the shepherd left his flock to go after the lost sheep, the thief on the cross was forgiven, the kind lady who gave a drink of water to the MAN who was thirsty was forgiven, so HOW CAN ANYONE ON EARTH stand atop a pedestal and claim to support the Bible yet condemn others. Put your effort into cleansing your own soul, for God is love, and it is His decision to make the final judgments!

Looks like bashing Gays is still in style in some parts of backward America. And while nobody wants to raise the poor babies most Americans would prefer not to kill them, just keep them in poverty. Bush has just indicated that he does like babies, at least healthy ones, so maybe there's hope yet. I'm obviously joking, there's no hope for Bush or the GOP. But seriously, in discussing Gay rights and Abortion issues with younger Americans (our future)- Gay rights aren't even an issue for 'most people' under 40. I would suggest that these wedge issues will die off with most uneducated segregated Americans. And who realy cares what they think anyway. Must have been a slow news day for CNN to put this garbage out for discussion.

Just because 56% of those polled don't approve of gov't recognition of marriage equality for gays, doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed. Democracy is also about protecting the minority from the tyrany of the majority...this is a perfect case where my community needs to be protected from the religious right hatemongers. Again, how the heck iss my same sex marriage in MA anyone else's business! It's not. And it has not affected any hetero marriages in the last 3 years! Those against it are simply bigotted hatemongers who will burn!

Do we really have to infuse this BULL into this election. CNN is turning into fox news.

Also, stop polling 50-90 year olds social issues. Cleary times are changing

Well I believe in abortion, within a cerain time limit, it is up to the woman, not the government. I really haven't formed an opinion on gay marriages. I think I would let other people decide that.

There is a difference between: Sex, Sexual Relations, Gender, Sensual Relations, Fornication, Copulation, and Love Making.

One can remain Celibate when unsure of how to love make a planned offspring, or copulate with reproduction.

One can only exile in punishment; in a global society this exile would be found on small mid-oceanic islands.

Abortion is a natural process; one which requires mass suffering in places of extreme exposure; a suffering which both the Father and Mother must endure to gain an un-fetal expression. In rape the Male is exiled entirely while a Female is exiled after prosecution and adoption is the only option instead of suffering the extremes in dehydration or cold.

The Species understands how to create infants, and why the acts and feelings that create those infants are present.

Would you feed birth control in controlled doses to a Cat in manufactured food supplements instead of performing a Hysterectomy, or would it be considered inhumane and animal cruelty in experimentation?

I am stressed about the occupation in Iraq, the evaporation of the middle class, what I am going to have to pay at the pump, health care cost, how we as a nation are going to correct the errors of this loser administration, conflict with Iran/Korea. Although I do believe EVERYONE should have equal rights under the law, I really don't worry about who gets an abortion, or who is getting married.

Those should be personal affairs.

Part of being a Christian should be about loving, accepting your fellow man. Embracing difference and tolerance. The Christian Right is preaching hatred and fear of God. I am not surprised they are being courted by the GOP.

ie..., the majority of American's agree with Republican Christian conservatives values.

WOW!!

I'm tired of hearing about abortion and gay marriage. These are two things that SHOULD be completely non-issues...