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Rep. Stark has his right to speak his opinion as a democrat...which is not allowed in the republican party...you have to speak whatever message they want spoken and can not have a mind of your own...that is what the republican party is all about...a bunch of judgemental hypocrites...examples craig, vitter, gw, cheney, gingrich

Funny how liberal hate always finds a prominent place on CNN.
Hmmm.... bias political opinion maybe??

There are two types of Americans at the present time. Ones that hate America and ones that love America, frightening.

Posted By bprossersme

And I'm confident that the neo-cons and those who support them, are the ones that hate it. Either that, or their impression of what was once collectively understood to constitute "America" has been altered beyond recognition.

There are two types of Americans at the present time. Ones that hate America and ones that love America, frightening.

Was Stark over-the-top, yes. should he be reprimanded, perhaps. How about a deal: I'll go along with reprimanding him if the Right will lead the fight to impeach Bush-Cheney for over-the-top policies, lies and deceptions that have endangered the military and economic strength of this nation and raised the level of American division to levels not seen since Vietnam. How about it? You folks on the right–call home your dogs and we'll call home ours. In the meantime, at least none of Stark's words have cost lives.

"Pete tells the truth and the warmongers get upset. Well, live with it."

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If that is the level of "honesty" viewed by liberals then I look forward to the day a member of Congress expresses the TRUTH about Hillary:

She is an angry lesbian worried her fake-marriage to a sexual predator might hurt her political aspirations. If any bimbo attempts to confess publically, Hillary intimidats the person to shut down any allegations. She sells socialism to the masses – pushing her Anti-capitalism ideology and "buying" votes in the process.

Sadly, there is a large segment of the American population too dumb and too ignorant to think for themselves as they shout: You Go Girl!

Thank you Rep Stark, thank you.

The lunatical raving by this man shows just how much hatred the democrats have. They could care less what it is as long as they think it will hurt the president they will say it. Similar to the house Speaker wanting to condemn Turkey with the single purpose of hurting the war in Iraq. Some of these democrats would cheer the USA being defeated in anything if it furthered their agenda. So much hatred, so little common sense. I feel sorry for anyone like these people who are consumed by hate.

The irrational lunatical comments made by Stark reveal how much hatred the democarts have. Similar to a little kid you does not get his way and will lash out at anyone and anything that is near with anything he can grab.

Now if we could just get a presidential candidate to speak the truth as this man has, they'd probably get my vote. I admire a person that stands in the face of ridicule and tells it like it is. That my friends, is what this Country needs.

Well, do you know that when we went to war the first time(Iraq) and it has to be true this time that the Air National Guard shipped over thousands of caskets ahead of time?

It's amazing that we're even talking about somebody's allegedly offensive words when we have incredibly offensive actions being taken by the government:

Torture. Secret prisons. Surveillance without probable cause.

This is absolutely disgusting. People who want to ignore those things and talk about flag pins and intemperate words are deranged.

Congressman Stark is right. Any way you look at it Bush is a tyrant, just as Saddam Hussein was. He keeps poking his nose in where it is not welcome, he governs for his cronies, and he can anticipate losing at least 60 American lives a month for the remaining time in office. I say send the twins, Jenna and Barbara, to Iraq and see how long this moron leaves our troops in Iraq.

Stark is an old medicated fool. get rig of him before he does anymore damage. Age limits for Senators

IF ANYBODY IN POLITICS IS MENTALLY CHALLENGED....IT IS THE PSYCHO COWBOY... "ya know what I mean"

Democrats keep apologizing and bowing down. This seems like the general trend. They can't do anything right. Spineless, the Republican party has them exactly where they want them.

Not sure this kind of a comment really does anything to advance the Democrats' agenda. I wish I could say keep up the good work, when you guys are screwing up in so many things, by giving the Republicans everything and they manage to give you nothing.

Should Congressman Stark retract his statement and apologize?

-–> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=757

Hey CNN admin, why are you making me look foolish by deleting my comment and then reposting it after I have replaced my FACTUAL comments??? What's going on over there? Buncha amateurs.

For some reason my factual comments were deleted.

The FACTS are that the words were NOT found to violate House rules and his words were NOT stricken from the record... .

My comment included the fact that CNN's own poll said that over 90% of respondents thought that Stark should NOT apologize.

Well Stark spoke the truth and he should never appologize. As a Dem I am behind him 100%. Bush and the Republican party are a very devious bunch of thugs.

Hooray for Mr. Stark. Its about time someone has the guts to say the truth. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to shut up and stop being spineless wimps. They don't represent the democrats anymore.

Disgusting. You know you've descended into partisan oblivion if you give Rep. Stark a pass on his remarks. Shameful.

Posted By Providence, RI : October 20, 2007 8:37 am

What planet are you from? Stark ought to be given a medal of honor for his remarks, which are right on target. Enough of this foolish war and crap from the "selected" President. He was NEVER really elected and you neocons KNOW IT! "We the PEOPLE" sent a resounding, loud & clear message to Washington & the world last year at the election booth. It's time for the rest of the Democrats to get some back bone and do the job we sent them to Capitol Hill to do. End this war that continues to make the rich richer and stop grinding our young soldiers into hamburger. I say RIGHT ON Mr. Stark and God bless you!

And yes people, Democrats are Christians too, only we're a lot closer to what Jesus would do than hypocritical neocons will ever be!! Now run teill that!

Anyone who still thinks Bush went into Iraq for any reason other than having fun with a little war game hasn't been paying attention. And if it were a "real" war to Bush, he would let the press present it as such, including showing the caskets coming home from Iraq, which Bush has blocked (free press?–not in the Bush administration).

Keeping the dead merely numbers (no body, nobody?) shields him from the truth of what his little game does to people, or else he's just oblivious.

I am relatively sure the deaths do not amuse Bush. He didn't expect them. But he certainly was amused in the mission accomplished days. Now he's stuck in a mess he doesn't know how to get out of, is too stubborn to cry uncle, thinks more about his legacy than the people who put their faith in him (of which I was not one), and someone else will clean up after him. Then he can find another game to play.

This is a silly controversy. GOPers have an awful situation in the House next year (check these detailed House Rankings) and they want to change the subject.

I hope he says more outrageous stuff calculated to crank up the child-hating war-loving Repellicans into their high dudgeon which is so much fun to watch.

"Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against."

Amazing how you can get all het up about people allegedly coveting your stuff, while ignoring Christ's injunction to give away all that you have to the poor (Matthew 19:21, in case you want to look it up). Since the fundagelicals aren't stepping forward to provide health care to the nation, they'll have to "render unto Caesar" with the rest of us to ensure that as a country we won't be ashamed about how "the least of these" are treated.

The remarks of Rep. Stark were RIGHT-ON. Rep. Stark had every right to express his disgust with this moronic president and his diabolical administration. It is about time that someone call this evil spade just what he is. It does appear that he takes pleasure in the death of the innocents as long as he can further his agenda.

Wow, I must have waken up this morning and it wasn't ok to exercise your right to free speech. Thanks for letting me know so that I don't go out and get in trouble.

Partision oblivion providence? Spoken like a true hate radio lemming. Defend the demogouge Rush as he remanufactures his dismissal of soldiers who disagree with his chickenhawk butt at the same time screaming about a congressperson's expression of thier views, Hmm. I suppose General Sanchez is now a phony soldier since he retired and was able to tell the truth. Go fish. I served, Rush didn't . bite me

Mr Metzler:

A family of four with an income of LESS than 35,000. Ok, that's two kids and two adults. You're assuming they own a house – first off, that's a poor assumption. Qualifying income for a mortgage according to NAR was 54,288 in 2006, the average cost of a home was 221,900. If the family was really fortunate and managed to get a mortgage somehow, their payment would be around 1100/month. With a base income of 35k (or less), after tax income is approx. $2200/month. Half of this goes to housing. That leaves 1100/month for utiliies, food, clothing, auto, fuel, and last but not least, insurance. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this family could possibly afford health insurance which is typically in excess of $600/month for a family of four. So ok, sell the cars, rent an efficiency for $600/month and now perhaps we're closer. I tend to believe that that family would live without health insurance. When one of the children got sick, they would go to the emergency room, be stuck with an incredibly high debt, lose their credit, and you and I would end up paying anyway. Everybody wins? What would you do?

Rep. Stark's words have upset republicans because they show the basic fallacies in the party's current policy positions. The RP claims to be the party of families and values, but opts to enter into wars that lack valid national security objectives over caring for its own, most unprotected citizens–American children who lack basic healthcare. Rep. Stark got it right. I pray that he doesn't back down on his comments.

I hope that Rep. Stark does not apologize for his comments. I only wish that CNN, after discussing this story would show their own poll showing that 90% of Americans DO NOT want Rep. Stark to apologize. If only some other Democrats could get a spine. As for Metzler's comments about Democrats wanting someone else to pay for their failures? Who is paying for George Bush's failures? Our brave men and women in the Armed Forces thats who.

Free Speech. Are we still living in America? Someone needs to pull down the "window dressings" and let the "tell me anything and I will believe it Americans see what is really happening. Oh, the no action cowards can sit back, talk tough and tuck their tails because they have never been in the military, none of their children are currently deployed to Iraq, and none have lost a military member of their families.

This Stark is a nut case, it is scary to think a mentally challegened is a member of the Congress, either that I think he should be tested for illegal drugs.
What a disgrace!"

Posted By Lynne : October 20, 2007 8:40 am

GET REAL…almost a trillion gone on a phony pre-meditated neo-con PNAC war, and we can't take care of our own…who's on drugs? whose side is anyone who defends these traitors on ?????? ….must be more paper exchanging billionaires walking around than they say there are…these are the only ones that have benefited from this cast of baffoons….the place which was built by REAL work by those who REALLY earned, is just about broken and falling apart…what, whose on drugs again ????

Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures"

Posted By Barrett Metzler, Bearden, Arkansas : October 20, 2007 10:31 am

I geuss Arkansas is a million miles away from anywheres...35K a year???
2400 sq ft home...you can't afford to live in a shoe-box in most places outside "arkansas"....while the $2bill a year hedge fund crooks only pay 15% in taxes, while a poor sod doing REAL WORK taking care of people and cleaning the **** in nursing homes pays more, and can't even afford to have someone take care of their family health-care wise??? what...are you one of the billionares??? if not, whose side are you on anyways??? I can't for the life of me, figure this out anymore....Yeh, someone who contributes "REAL WORK" and value to the society is a failure....PLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAAASE

"Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures"

Posted By Barrett Metzler, Bearden, Arkansas : October 20, 2007 10:31 am

I geuss Arkansas is a million miles away from anywheres...35K a year???
2400 sq ft home...you can't afford to live in a shoe-box in most places outside "arkansas"....while the $2bill a year hedge fund crooks only pay 15% in taxes, while a poor sod doing REAL WORK taking care of people and cleaning the **** in nursing homes pays more, and can't even afford to have someone take care of their family health-care wise??? what...are you one of the billionares??? if not, whose side are you on anyways??? I can't for the life of me, figure this out anymore....Yeh, and someone who contributes "REAL WORK" and value to the society is a failure....PLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAAASE

Thirty-five thousand a year is about $673 a week before taxes. So lets just figure in the necessities, food, chlothes,rent/mortgage,utilities,i'll include car in here because if you're not in an area with public transportation you need a car, gas...and I guess the idea is the family of 4 should have no problem paying for health insurance too...I know if they area able to pull this off they should all have some kind of career in finances because they would definitely be some kind of financial wizards.

" This Stark is a nut case, it is scary to think a mentally challegened is a member of the Congress, either that I think he should be tested for illegal drugs.
What a disgrace!"

Posted By Lynne : October 20, 2007 8:40 am

GET REAL...almost a trillion gone on a phony pre-meditated neo-con PNAC war, and we can't take care of our own...who's on drugs? whose side is anyone who defends these traitors on ?????? ....must be more paper exchanging billionaires walking around than they say there are...these are the only ones that have benefited from this cast of baffoons....the place which was built by REAL work by those who REALLY earned, is just about broken and falling apart...what, whose on drugs again ????

Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures.

This will probably lead to another letter or bill condemning what he said. Maybe he can auction it on ebay and donate it to volunteer community health clinics. Seems like the only things these clowns can get passed in the Congress is bagging on someone when they say something the other doesn't agree with.

So much to do in this country and all they can do is call names, then decry the name calling with 'legislation' or a 'letter'.

Turks-Armenians, Limbaugh-Reid, Obama-Tanner, MoveOn-Patraeus.

These jokers have all taken their eye off the ball. Get rid of them all and hold a lotto type representative government.

Pick 5 registered voters that are citizens for each district, have them debate and the then the people vote on which of the 5 they want to send forward as a representative. 2 terms and you go home, period.

We need a Viagra for this type of ED (Electile Dysfunction).

I am SICK and TIRED of the moronic do nothings in this government.

Oh, thanks ever so much, Dana and CNN, for letting the GOP continue to create a "controversy" to distract from the facts: they can't find an extra $30B over 5 years to keep kids in this country healthy, but they can dump that same amount down the Iraq war money pit every 6 months (one Freidman Unit) indefinitely.

Your reporting on this is at least as shameful as the behavior of the GOP congresscritters themselves. I'm sure it was Republican leaders who spoon-fed Dana the previous quotes from Stark about his GOP colleagues to keep this "story" going.

Please – do us all a favor, stop letting the Republicans lead you by the nose, and realize that the country wants CNN to focus on policies and not personalities.

There's the old adage "TRUTH HURTS."

In this case it has obviously disturbed politicians (and others)who are encased in their own environment of lies and falsehoods as spewed forth by the administration and the folks on capitol hill!

This Stark is a nut case, it is scary to think a mentally challegened is a member of the Congress, either that I think he should be tested for illegal drugs.
What a disgrace!

Disgusting. You know you've descended into partisan oblivion if you give Rep. Stark a pass on his remarks. Shameful.

Disgusting. You know you've descended into partisan oblivion if you give this guy a pass on his remarks about the President.

I see again that CNN took my comments down because it blasted this Nitwit who spit in the faces of the troops and America in a time of war.

This man's comments were beyond the pale! Censure would be VERY appropriate in this case, I hope Harry will be as quick to condem this outrageous remark that he heard firsthand.

Pete tells the truth and the warmongers get upset. Well, live with it.

Peter Stark is a disgrace to the congress. His comments ought to require an apology. First of all We do not need goverment health care. We need to take care of the illegal imigrants then they won't need goverment funded health care. If they come here legally they can. Pay taxes and recieve health care they helped pay for. The way to solve health care is to stop the Trial Lawyers from getting rich on medical libility suits. Put a cap on the amount doctors and hospitals can charge. Make health care more affordable. Has anyone ever stood in line to pay property taxes or renew your drivers license. Is that the way you want health care. Other countries with goverment health care come to the United States because their is a long wait on treatment for basic emergencies like cancer Heart bypass's last I knew that is not something you can wait on. We already have health care for the poor its called medicaid. when some one is down on their luck and need health care medicaid is awesome but I hope it goes to people who are legal and have paid taxes to help provide it. But more important I don't want the goverment telling me what doctor I have to see and what hospital I have to go to. Have you kept up with the goverment hospitals lately Walter Reid and any VA hospital have a bad reputation. Any one who has dealt with the goverment knows often you a waiting on funds for congress to approve each year for you to operate on. That's not how I want my health care.

Amusement was the wrong choice of words. I think He should have said for Bush's giant ego gratification. Other than that i don't see much wrong with his comments. As a decorated veteran i am not in the least offended, Blatant stupidity and blindly following a failed leader offend me more. Have at it hate jocks. None of which have EVER served, No, None folks. The local one said he wanted to serve in vietnam but his eyesight was to bad, Hmm. I remember setting on a listening post in vietnam when my glasses broke because as the captain said," You don't need your eyes to hear them." So much for that line of crap .

Democrats want to take us from SCHIP to Universal Health Care to COMMUNISM! Republicans on the other hand just want to takes us to Larry Craig's meeting place.

This is so silly. The GOP is using this to hide their own House problems. Look at these very recently released House rankings with detailed descriptions of every race to see how much Dems have an advantage.

If one is going to bring notes to the podium, use them. Starkie shows his age and confusion here... let's watch him closely. It may be ime to call him home.

A real class act, this character. I don't care what he "feels" in his heart of hearts, or what motivates him - this was a total and disgraceful lack of character. Prozac, anyone?

>>>have garnered arguably as much attention

According to WHO??? The Right. And CNN.

This is another trademark distraction from the real issue of George Bush's VETO OF CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE and the GOP who sustained the veto.

The words were *NOT* found to be out of order. The words were *NOT* stricken from the record.

NON-ISSUE.

CNN's own poll:

Should he apologize?
Yes 8% 741
No 92% 8690

More sensationalist garbage by CNN trying to boost ratings. Nice try.

Let's get back to SCHIP and providing health care for ALL CHILDREN please.

This man is clearly mentally defective in som eway. His remarks are slanderous and reprehensible in every way. Beyond the fact it is devoid of any truth, the House' "non-response" and failure to shut him down during this diatribe makes them complicit in giving aid and succir to our avowed enemies who are applauding this type of discord and vitriole in our own ranks. Shame, Shame.

I find it funny that Rep. James Clyburn will not say that the comments that Rep. Peter Stark were inappropriate. If a Republican said such totally ignorant and inappropriate remarks they'd be admonished. When will common sense replace politics in Washington? Who do these people in Washington represent?

YOUR WORDS MAY HAVE BEEN HARSH BUT THESE ARE HARSH TIMES WHICH DEMAND HARSH WORD THAT THIS PRESIDENT MIGHT UNDERSTAND.

Give 'em hell, Pete. DO NOT apologize. Bush is a maniacal, fascist war criminal by any reasonable standard of judgement. Remember Bush as Governor laughing and imitating a woman who was begging him for her life? She died for his amusement.

This guy is a real Nitwit. Arnold recall this man. He just slapped every Armed Forces persons face. Active & Retired. Like me.

Stark is 100% right. What CNN is not saying is WHY did the Democrats in the House fail to come up with enough votes to override our sick Presiden's veto???? Perhaps the few remaining Republicans has something to do with it?...you think? Republicans are self-serving...if they are not getting a piece of the pie then nobody gets a piece...If Corporate America/Republican cronies/Bush cronies...and on and on and on would benefit then the bill would have been passed. The rest of us Americans can, and are, just baggage to them.

Rep. Stark SHOULD NOT apologize. He was absolutely right and I believe in "Free Speech". Republicans are constantly trying to put Democrats on the defensive and always pretending to be "offended". Give me a break. I don't understand how the Bush Administration can spend BILLIONS of dollars for the supposed "war on terror", but won't fund children's health care. Pres. Bush is truly out of touch with the American people. With illegal aliens invading this country, a nationwide mortgage crises...thousands of families losing their homes and don't have health care, Pres. Bush remains oblivious.

How dare he speak the truth! He should be interrogated.

All hail the Emperor and Long live the Empire!

Most of America is extremely angry at Stark and his fetid remarks. He should be fired as he can't seem to do his job anymore. Vote the old med-head out of office. Are you going to delete this comment also, CNN? Hypocrite.