October 20th, 2007
08:13 AM ET
6 months ago

Raving mad over Stark's comment

Rep. Stark's comments on Thursday were not the first controversial comments he has made on Capitol Hill. Dana Bash has more.

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Democrats in the House of Representatives failed Thursday to come up with enough votes to override President Bush's veto of a bill that would have expanded funding for children's health insurance.  But, the words of a California Democrat during the debate on the legislation have garnered arguably as much attention as the stand-off between the President and Congressional Democrats over the bill.  Dana Bash reports on the reaction to comments by Rep. Peter Stark, D-California.

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soundoff (63 Responses)
  1. Barrett Metzler, Bearden, Arkansas

    Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures.

    October 20, 2007 10:31 am at 10:31 am |
  2. let it fall apart

    " This Stark is a nut case, it is scary to think a mentally challegened is a member of the Congress, either that I think he should be tested for illegal drugs.
    What a disgrace!"

    Posted By Lynne : October 20, 2007 8:40 am

    GET REAL...almost a trillion gone on a phony pre-meditated neo-con PNAC war, and we can't take care of our own...who's on drugs? whose side is anyone who defends these traitors on ?????? ....must be more paper exchanging billionaires walking around than they say there are...these are the only ones that have benefited from this cast of baffoons....the place which was built by REAL work by those who REALLY earned, is just about broken and falling apart...what, whose on drugs again ????

    October 20, 2007 11:09 am at 11:09 am |
  3. Leonard Fair, Washington, DC

    Thirty-five thousand a year is about $673 a week before taxes. So lets just figure in the necessities, food, chlothes,rent/mortgage,utilities,i'll include car in here because if you're not in an area with public transportation you need a car, gas...and I guess the idea is the family of 4 should have no problem paying for health insurance too...I know if they area able to pull this off they should all have some kind of career in finances because they would definitely be some kind of financial wizards.

    October 20, 2007 11:14 am at 11:14 am |
  4. outraged

    "Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures"

    Posted By Barrett Metzler, Bearden, Arkansas : October 20, 2007 10:31 am

    I geuss Arkansas is a million miles away from anywheres...35K a year???
    2400 sq ft home...you can't afford to live in a shoe-box in most places outside "arkansas"....while the $2bill a year hedge fund crooks only pay 15% in taxes, while a poor sod doing REAL WORK taking care of people and cleaning the **** in nursing homes pays more, and can't even afford to have someone take care of their family health-care wise??? what...are you one of the billionares??? if not, whose side are you on anyways??? I can't for the life of me, figure this out anymore....Yeh, and someone who contributes "REAL WORK" and value to the society is a failure....PLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAAASE

    October 20, 2007 11:18 am at 11:18 am |
  5. outraged

    Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against. If Mr. Sheridan thinks that Mr. Starks' comments are not the first transgression, then perhaps he should start studying economics. If a family of four earning $35,000 or more cannot afford health insurance for their children, perhaps they should get rid of one of their cars, downsize from their 2400 square foot home, stop their Friday night dinners out, etc. But no, the Democrats would rather have everybody pay for someone elses failures"

    Posted By Barrett Metzler, Bearden, Arkansas : October 20, 2007 10:31 am

    I geuss Arkansas is a million miles away from anywheres...35K a year???
    2400 sq ft home...you can't afford to live in a shoe-box in most places outside "arkansas"....while the $2bill a year hedge fund crooks only pay 15% in taxes, while a poor sod doing REAL WORK taking care of people and cleaning the **** in nursing homes pays more, and can't even afford to have someone take care of their family health-care wise??? what...are you one of the billionares??? if not, whose side are you on anyways??? I can't for the life of me, figure this out anymore....Yeh, someone who contributes "REAL WORK" and value to the society is a failure....PLLLLLEEEEEAAAAAAASE

    October 20, 2007 11:22 am at 11:22 am |
  6. let if fall apart

    This Stark is a nut case, it is scary to think a mentally challegened is a member of the Congress, either that I think he should be tested for illegal drugs.
    What a disgrace!"

    Posted By Lynne : October 20, 2007 8:40 am

    GET REAL…almost a trillion gone on a phony pre-meditated neo-con PNAC war, and we can't take care of our own…who's on drugs? whose side is anyone who defends these traitors on ?????? ….must be more paper exchanging billionaires walking around than they say there are…these are the only ones that have benefited from this cast of baffoons….the place which was built by REAL work by those who REALLY earned, is just about broken and falling apart…what, whose on drugs again ????

    October 20, 2007 11:27 am at 11:27 am |
  7. Joe, Moore, OK

    Free Speech. Are we still living in America? Someone needs to pull down the "window dressings" and let the "tell me anything and I will believe it Americans see what is really happening. Oh, the no action cowards can sit back, talk tough and tuck their tails because they have never been in the military, none of their children are currently deployed to Iraq, and none have lost a military member of their families.

    October 20, 2007 11:29 am at 11:29 am |
  8. Chris Calhoun, Georgia

    I hope that Rep. Stark does not apologize for his comments. I only wish that CNN, after discussing this story would show their own poll showing that 90% of Americans DO NOT want Rep. Stark to apologize. If only some other Democrats could get a spine. As for Metzler's comments about Democrats wanting someone else to pay for their failures? Who is paying for George Bush's failures? Our brave men and women in the Armed Forces thats who.

    October 20, 2007 11:41 am at 11:41 am |
  9. Kelly, Lenox, MA

    Rep. Stark's words have upset republicans because they show the basic fallacies in the party's current policy positions. The RP claims to be the party of families and values, but opts to enter into wars that lack valid national security objectives over caring for its own, most unprotected citizens–American children who lack basic healthcare. Rep. Stark got it right. I pray that he doesn't back down on his comments.

    October 20, 2007 11:49 am at 11:49 am |
  10. David, Encinitas, CA

    Mr Metzler:

    A family of four with an income of LESS than 35,000. Ok, that's two kids and two adults. You're assuming they own a house – first off, that's a poor assumption. Qualifying income for a mortgage according to NAR was 54,288 in 2006, the average cost of a home was 221,900. If the family was really fortunate and managed to get a mortgage somehow, their payment would be around 1100/month. With a base income of 35k (or less), after tax income is approx. $2200/month. Half of this goes to housing. That leaves 1100/month for utiliies, food, clothing, auto, fuel, and last but not least, insurance. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this family could possibly afford health insurance which is typically in excess of $600/month for a family of four. So ok, sell the cars, rent an efficiency for $600/month and now perhaps we're closer. I tend to believe that that family would live without health insurance. When one of the children got sick, they would go to the emergency room, be stuck with an incredibly high debt, lose their credit, and you and I would end up paying anyway. Everybody wins? What would you do?

    October 20, 2007 12:01 pm at 12:01 pm |
  11. Sam, IA

    Partision oblivion providence? Spoken like a true hate radio lemming. Defend the demogouge Rush as he remanufactures his dismissal of soldiers who disagree with his chickenhawk butt at the same time screaming about a congressperson's expression of thier views, Hmm. I suppose General Sanchez is now a phony soldier since he retired and was able to tell the truth. Go fish. I served, Rush didn't . bite me

    October 20, 2007 12:23 pm at 12:23 pm |
  12. Mike, Camp Bondsteel, Kosovo

    Wow, I must have waken up this morning and it wasn't ok to exercise your right to free speech. Thanks for letting me know so that I don't go out and get in trouble.

    October 20, 2007 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm |
  13. Tom, AlBUQUERQUE, NM

    The remarks of Rep. Stark were RIGHT-ON. Rep. Stark had every right to express his disgust with this moronic president and his diabolical administration. It is about time that someone call this evil spade just what he is. It does appear that he takes pleasure in the death of the innocents as long as he can further his agenda.

    October 20, 2007 12:40 pm at 12:40 pm |
  14. Michael Sheridan, Grand Rapids, MI

    "Mr. Sheridan needs to reflect on the Tenth Commandment. It is the first transgression that the Lord is against."

    Amazing how you can get all het up about people allegedly coveting your stuff, while ignoring Christ's injunction to give away all that you have to the poor (Matthew 19:21, in case you want to look it up). Since the fundagelicals aren't stepping forward to provide health care to the nation, they'll have to "render unto Caesar" with the rest of us to ensure that as a country we won't be ashamed about how "the least of these" are treated.

    October 20, 2007 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm |
  15. Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA

    I hope he says more outrageous stuff calculated to crank up the child-hating war-loving Repellicans into their high dudgeon which is so much fun to watch.

    October 20, 2007 01:00 pm at 1:00 pm |
  16. Daniel

    This is a silly controversy. GOPers have an awful situation in the House next year (check these detailed House Rankings) and they want to change the subject.

    October 20, 2007 01:05 pm at 1:05 pm |
  17. Mrs. America

    Anyone who still thinks Bush went into Iraq for any reason other than having fun with a little war game hasn't been paying attention. And if it were a "real" war to Bush, he would let the press present it as such, including showing the caskets coming home from Iraq, which Bush has blocked (free press?–not in the Bush administration).

    Keeping the dead merely numbers (no body, nobody?) shields him from the truth of what his little game does to people, or else he's just oblivious.

    I am relatively sure the deaths do not amuse Bush. He didn't expect them. But he certainly was amused in the mission accomplished days. Now he's stuck in a mess he doesn't know how to get out of, is too stubborn to cry uncle, thinks more about his legacy than the people who put their faith in him (of which I was not one), and someone else will clean up after him. Then he can find another game to play.

    October 20, 2007 01:28 pm at 1:28 pm |
  18. Victoria Randall, Phillips Ranch, CA

    Disgusting. You know you've descended into partisan oblivion if you give Rep. Stark a pass on his remarks. Shameful.

    Posted By Providence, RI : October 20, 2007 8:37 am

    What planet are you from? Stark ought to be given a medal of honor for his remarks, which are right on target. Enough of this foolish war and crap from the "selected" President. He was NEVER really elected and you neocons KNOW IT! "We the PEOPLE" sent a resounding, loud & clear message to Washington & the world last year at the election booth. It's time for the rest of the Democrats to get some back bone and do the job we sent them to Capitol Hill to do. End this war that continues to make the rich richer and stop grinding our young soldiers into hamburger. I say RIGHT ON Mr. Stark and God bless you!

    And yes people, Democrats are Christians too, only we're a lot closer to what Jesus would do than hypocritical neocons will ever be!! Now run teill that!

    October 20, 2007 01:30 pm at 1:30 pm |
  19. Narnia, Portland, Oregon

    Hooray for Mr. Stark. Its about time someone has the guts to say the truth. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi need to shut up and stop being spineless wimps. They don't represent the democrats anymore.

    October 20, 2007 02:03 pm at 2:03 pm |
  20. laurinda,ny

    Well Stark spoke the truth and he should never appologize. As a Dem I am behind him 100%. Bush and the Republican party are a very devious bunch of thugs.

    October 20, 2007 02:44 pm at 2:44 pm |
  21. Ethan, Brooklyn, NY

    For some reason my factual comments were deleted.

    The FACTS are that the words were NOT found to violate House rules and his words were NOT stricken from the record... .

    My comment included the fact that CNN's own poll said that over 90% of respondents thought that Stark should NOT apologize.

    October 20, 2007 03:43 pm at 3:43 pm |
  22. Ethan, Brooklyn, NY

    Hey CNN admin, why are you making me look foolish by deleting my comment and then reposting it after I have replaced my FACTUAL comments??? What's going on over there? Buncha amateurs.

    October 20, 2007 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  23. PollM, Dallas Tx

    Democrats keep apologizing and bowing down. This seems like the general trend. They can't do anything right. Spineless, the Republican party has them exactly where they want them.

    Not sure this kind of a comment really does anything to advance the Democrats' agenda. I wish I could say keep up the good work, when you guys are screwing up in so many things, by giving the Republicans everything and they manage to give you nothing.

    Should Congressman Stark retract his statement and apologize?

    -–> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=757

    October 20, 2007 04:38 pm at 4:38 pm |
  24. laurinda,ny

    IF ANYBODY IN POLITICS IS MENTALLY CHALLENGED....IT IS THE PSYCHO COWBOY... "ya know what I mean"

    October 20, 2007 05:21 pm at 5:21 pm |
  25. brprossersme

    Stark is an old medicated fool. get rig of him before he does anymore damage. Age limits for Senators

    October 20, 2007 05:31 pm at 5:31 pm |
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