She's going to finish third in Iowa, of course she's not the frontrunner, she has no chance of getting the nomination. If she did, it would be President Huckabee or Thompson…

Hillary is 20 or 30 points behind ..

If Al Gore jumps in.

Folks, the new zogby polls shows that 50% will never vote for hillary. In modern political times, never a candidate has won with such a negative number. Rudy guiliani or even Mike Huckabee has a good chance to beat hillary clinton. yes, you heard it right. Mike Huckabee is growing so fast. I am not a supporter of him but more and more I hear him talk, he seems to be making inroads into republican party.

thank god for hillery clinton because the american people has ben throw to the wolf under the g.w.bush republican administration my opinion i thank i'm aloud to say?

We're rooting for you Hillary! Good job for you. I'm excited about your hopeful presidency and sick of all your hopeless haters!

Hillary Clinton will win in Iowa. Hillary will be the best president in the history of the United States. Denial will get us nowhere as a nation. Instead of aiding and abetting the right wingers with their hate we all need to support Hillary Clinton for the change we NEED. Hillary Clinton is the most qualified, the most experienced candidate and she's READY TO LEAD.

Exactly it's still just as much an open race on the side of the democrats as it is the republicans. This notion that Hillary is the frontrunner because the "polls" say so is ridiculous. Obama is far more electable and could put those "conservative" liars in there place during any debate. I am supporting Obama go to http://www.barackobama.com to find out why. NO HILLARY AND NO REPUBLICANS IN 2008!!!

OBAMA '08!

Google all the quotes by 'BaracktheVote, Des Moines, IA' you will find he made them all up except this one:

"The unfettered free market has been the most radically disruptive force…"

If you want to know what an 'unfettered free market' is like, ask your grandparents about the Great Depression.

I'm one of those African American women that the Clinton campaign seems so sure of. I don't know who they're talking to but I don't know anyone who supports Hillary Clinton. She needs to check her polling.

Although, I'm not a Hillary supporter the polls probably do reflect a current majority Clinton voters. I don't put any stock in the numbers, howeverI do in the sentiment generated by such polls. All these Hillary supporters talk about her experience, passion, knowledge, and temper to be President. First and foremost, Hillary has exposure to the US Presidency not experience. The only official policy she was involved in was leading Bill Clinton's national health care plan in which she failed miserably. How many of the pollsters are supporting Hillary because of Bill Clinton? Americans do your research! Hillary's time in the Senate and prior career experience does not lead me to believe she can be President. If she can't keep her own house in order (cheatin' Bill), I doubt she would have more success in the White House.

I am happily VOTING FOR HILLARY! She is smart, flexible, experienced, progressive and determined. Everything that Bush, nor her candidate counter-parts, is not.

Amazing how dumb people are. All one has to do is read these blogs and find how misinformed people really are. They have strong opinions that are baseless.

Go Hillary!

2009 can't come fast enough!

GO HILLARY!!!

IOWA WOMAN LOVE AND SUPPORT HILLARY CLITON 2008. THE CLEAR CHOICE

Hey Sarah,

"We" is an awfully strong and presumptuous, blanket pronoun…"We will not vote for you…"

Well, Hillary, I will vote for you.

To Dave, Cheverly, MD

Sweetie…you are fantastically condescending. Maybe Kelly from AZ shouldn't have muddled the issue of Hillary with that of gay rights but likewise, you should not be belittling in such a way. Keep it up; oh, and keep saving the free world too…with a personality like that I'd wager to say you're well on your way.

If 50 percent of the electorate hasn't chosen you, they're not going to, Mrs. Clinton. You've had several years of riding Bill's coat tails to prove yourself to them and you have not. You consistantly play it safe and play to the corporate money men to make you competitive against Barack Obama, and that's about it.

I hear you're holding a "Rural Iowans" party, in Washington D.C., at a Lobby firm for Monsanto Inc., the worst evironmental polluters of pesticide and genetically modified foods in existance, a company that has been banned in Europe, a company that is the definition of corporate greed and irresponsibility.

Barack Obama has passed more bipartisan bills on more meaningful legislation, including the first ethics reform in a generation which is the reason you can no longer use that Monsanto provided jet, Mrs. Clinton.

While you were on the board of Wall Mart in the 80's getting Wall Mart to fund Bill's campaign, Barack Obama was out hitting the streets of Southside Chicago on behalf of out of work steel mill workers, getting them new jobs and better homes. He turned down several six figure salaries to do that Mrs. Clinton. Have you ever done the same?

Who is calling you the front runner? The ESTABLISHMENT, those that stand to benefit from your being the nominee. If you win, then Rupert Murdock and his Fox cronies will be happy that you were in their pocket. But then, your new buddies over at fox aren't telling you some things, like for example, that they're hoping you're the nominee because they believe that you WILL LOSE.

Barack Obama is looking ahead, 30 years of BUSH and CLINTON is not what this country needs. WE need to turn the page and look forward, look to a real leader of substance and integrity instead of one mired in ego and greed the same way that our current misfit and chief is.

Obama in 08. Obama can make a difference and change the status quo. Obama will restore us to ourselves again.

I don't know why everyone insists on talking about Howard Dean because most of us never paid attention to any news about him. We've heard his name before, but that's it.

What I really respect about Hilary Clinton is that she really seems to be in it for the right reasons. I also like that she talks to people on a one-on-one basis. I think she's putting her viewpoints out there, and a lot of people are siding with her on the major issues. I also think that Hilary seems to me to be an incredibly hard person to break or beat; I trust that she will be able to defend our country against terrorists while not talking down to us the way republicans do.

Im going to vote for the person with the least amount of cash.they owe less to the rich.

Hillary may not be the "front runner" but EVERYONE including Obama's own camp have come to realize (as much as they won't admit it) that she will win the nomination. She's no Howard Dean and the fact that Democrats nationally are rallying around her is proof of that. The Republicans spent all their time in the debate attacking her? Why? Because they are AFRAID of her because they know they can't beat her! Obama and Edwards weren't even mentioned in passing because the GOP will beat them easily! Hillary Clinton is tough enough to take any of those RepubliCANTs on!

Due to her national hate factor, I'll be switching over to vote for her in the primary. She will make it easy to get another Republican in 08.
Go Hillary!!

Hillary Clinton has my vote.

Were you aware that IQ actually stands for idiotic questions? That garbage is about as reliable as ink blots.

HILLARY FOR QUEEN!

Hillary can keep her house in order, if your talking about Bill's "affair", well she handled it very well. Regular people would have done it a whole lot differently. The man would have regretted that incident for the rest of their foolish life and then some.

Clinton has serious credibility and accomplishment issues. I will vote for Obama.

Hillary is and will continue to distroy family values,she can't seem to keep her own house in order, how do we expect her to run the White House? she does not have my vote or my family votes

Charles from Utah said this " Hillary is a divider , not a healer".

I am wondering if Hillary is divider or prejudiced hatred filled people are the real divider. You see a person as a divider, when your heart is filled with hatred.

May be Charles, you should look inside yourself and you may find you are a divider, not a healer. May be that will change the world around you.

It is the people who hate, who see Hillary as divider. They rely on every bit of hearsay to justify their prejudiced thought process.

you Democrats scream about the country being DIVIDED but listen to you! Why don't you start with yourselves ?

just read that hillary once dumped her cat Socks. ! This is going to be her downfall once the story hits the major newscasts ! On man

Colin742: You're preaching to the choir, but what's your point supposed to be? It so happens I voted for Bill Clinton — twice, as a matter of fact (different elections of course) — but like a lot of people I wasn't the only person who came away from his Presidency with a bad taste in the mouth. When the country was being all at each other's throats and he was lying directly to us — not to protect some great national security matter, but to protect his own sorry self — I lost respect for him. Gore would have made a fine President, but he should have been sworn in upon Clinton's resignation, THEN gone on to be elected easily in 2000. Again, the fact that he wasn't is Clinton's fault and no one else's. Hell, even Nixon had the grace to leave office rather than put the country through the sort of turmoil that Bill Clinton did.

And what's with the IQ shtick? The man has a high IQ; so what? Mine's 142, yours sounds about the same. Kennedy's was 117. I understand even Hitler's was well above average. Bush's IQ… well, I'm sure it can probably be measured. But so what? Means nothing.

If I may return to the original point I made, where I attempted to answer the lady's question about why so many of the posts were so angry: It began with Clinton being a putz. Personally I am sick to death of the anger and animosity we've endured for the past ten years, and would like to see an end to it. As I've pointed out before, ANY of the other Democratic candidates would likely be a shoo-in, and a couple of them are even outstanding, but Hillary Clinton is a divider and not a healer.

Be well.

"Hey Rex, I am a Democrat and I agree with many of things Ron Paul says. How can his website say this, however:

"Americans are justifiably concerned over the government’s escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health." AND "I have been the national leader in preserving Health Freedom."

Yet, he has voted on several occasions to interfere with a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions. I am strongly against abortion, yet I don't believe it is the government's responsibility enforce it. Do you know how much that would cost? Also, banning abortion will NOT decrease the amount of abortions there are! The only way abortions can be decreased is through knowledge and (gasp) birth control. I don't understand why this country is so scared to discuss sex education.
Posted By Jesse, Burnsville, MN : October 21, 2007 7:44 pm"

I don't know. I,like you consider myself a liberal. However, I'm pulled in opposite directions regarding the abortion issue. My opinion really doesn't matter here, now. And I can't answer for Dr. Paul, but I can assume that perhaps the fact that he has practiced ob/gyn medicine and delivered over 4,000 babies might have something to do with it. Do doctors that routinely deliver babies also perform abortions? I really don't know. I'm not certain how someone could do both. Here is a break down of his voting record in regards to abortion and other issues.

http://www.issues2000.org/TX/Ron_Paul.htm

As are almost all Americans — I am all for female candidates, male candidates, candidates of all backgrounds. That is why I am taken aback by Senator Clinton constantly referring to her primary opponents as "the men," as in "I am getting a lot of attention from 'the men' in this race" — when she is criticized. I have heard it repeatedly.

I know she is just trying to rally the women's vote– which is fine and good–but imagine if Senator Obama were to say– "I am getting a lot of attention from those 'white' candidates." I speculate that his campaign would be over.

I find it odd that this sort of gender divisiveness is not the subject of critical comment.

This may very well be the most manipulative woman on the face of the earth.

Don't fall for the polls conducted by Mark Penn (HRC's chief strategist). Women are too bright to fall for this act that Hillary Clinton is selling.

We will not vote for you Hillary. We will not vote for a mother who didn't care enough about the children of other women to read the intelligence made available to you before voting for the Iraq war.

And now, HRC, as you position yourself with the republicans who are itching to attack Iran, we will not stand with you.

You do not represent me, or my views and I will never vote for you.

I want a president who can win by his or her own merits. I have no doubt that Hillary is the frontrunner, but I do believe that her lead comes from the familiarity of her name rather then the content of her policies. I loved Bill Clinton, but the hope for bedroom politics isn't enough to win my vote.

Obama '08

Rex, I thoroughly enjoyed the Carlin video. Had a couple beefs with the Ron Paul video, though. 1) The clown that got Tazed – a) that was at a John Kerry event, and he is a Democrat. b) The guy was out of line, fought the cops and deserved it. There was no repression of free speech there, as the video makes it out. 2) The video attributed a quote to Ronald Regan that is not his. That quote, "Peace is not the absence of war…" is a zen maxim, and has been used by the Dali Lama. Sorry, Ron was a great guy, but that one is not his.

Other than that, it was a good video, and I like what I hear from Ron Paul.

Some posters were kind enough to share their rosey, Utopian vision of America's future should Hillary Clinton be elected. Thank you for that. Here's mine — any of you old enough to remember 1964?

Like LBJ, Hillary easily carries the election as the "centrist, social progressive" who has all sorts of plans and promises she hopes to accomplish. But she inherits an armed overseas conflict that she supported. Savvy enough to realize that there are legitimate US interests involved, she doesn't immediately end our military involvement (as the liberal base who helped elect her would prefer), but wants to appear firm and strong enough to satisfy her centrist base. Another attack is eventually made on the United States (because our enemies couldn't care less who is in office; any incumbant is the "Great Satan", after all), and she feels compelled to respond in force, drawing the armed forces and foreign policy deeper and deeper into an ever escalating conflict that consumes young American lives and divides the country. The draft is reinstated (has to be), and minorities will grow angry that their numbers are disproportionately represented while affluent white collage students (like she and her husband used to be) manage to obtain exemptions. By the time she manages to leave office she has become reviled by the left, is still hated by the right, and has disappointed and disgusted the center.

LBJ was as political a shenanigan-puller as they come, but he was actually a pretty good President, having always thought of his most valuable contribution being the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, but his "War on Poverty" was no more successful than than the one in Vietnam. Hardly anyone from that generation thinks kindly of him today, or recalls the day when he finally died.

Will this be Hillary Clinton's eventual legacy? Time will tell.

harles in Orem, Utah

THere is an 8′ statue of Clinton in Kosovo. The Serbs drove 1,000,000 Muslim Kosovars (Kosovarians in Bush grade 6 language) from their homes. Under Clinton, with a NATO (mostly US) forces, led by General Weseley Clarke, who I hope will become VP, the Muslim Kosovars were returned to their homes. No US forces died in this operation.

In contrast, millions of innocent Iraquis have been driven from their homes as a result of Bush's war to increase the price of oil.

A plot to Hijack and crash 10 US ailiners was discovered in the Phillipines. Several months before 911, there was a warning predicting a major terrorist operation. Although warned, neither Bush or Security advisor Rice, did anything. They ignored Richard Clarke's warnings.

Had Clinton still been president, with Clinton's brilliant mind (IQ 169), i think it is likely that he would have remembered the airliner plan, linked it to the warning, and done something. You will remember, FBI Director Free, The Republican idiot, who was great with a stained dress, but who did nothing when the an FBI agent reported Massaoui (now convicted of terrorism) was taking flying lessons.

3000 people died on 911 due the incompetance of Bush, Rice, Free. 1000s more have died since due his incompetance and perfidy.

Kyu Reisch from Radcliff, KY.
Are you a HRC intern? It seems like you are so blinded in HRC support that you leave no room for objective criticism. Who needs to apologize to HRC. If she wins, it is people like you, her supporters who will have to apologize for misleading the american people by perfecting the art of concealing her serious weaknesses such as:
–the Hsu saga
–the chinese immigrant donors saga
—the vote to authorize war in Iraq
–Declaring the Iran revolutionary Guards a terrorist organization
—Copying the health care plan for Edwards
–Copying idea of not setting limits on social security taxes
–evading genuine questions by claiming the questioner has been sent by someone
—refusing to remove her name from the MI ballot like other democratic party candidates

To Charles in Orem – sounds like you have the "Rove Sound Bite" – it's GOP policy to divide and conquer – pit the weak against each other and let the "elite" prosper. The only people Hillary will "divide" the the greedy, the corrupt and the demigods – YES YOU GOP FOLKS. Charles, we have had enough of the rove sound bites, VOTE DEMOCRAT and bring our country back from the most divisive and corrupt administration in the history of America. No GOP candidate will do anything different than the current administration. All promise, no compassion! Every GOP candidate has expressed their support for more of the same "bush league" policy. Bush was supposed to be the "great uniter" the super "decider" and what did we get, GOP greed, rich got richer, the Christians got church support form the treasury, the red states got pork barrel spending, defense contracts went to GOP districts.

That black presidential candidate Barrack Obama could be a mere 7 points behind the leading white presidential candidate Hillary Clinton should tell everyone that Clinton is not all that well liked or supported. Worse, when we consider another white presidential candidate John Edwards is 6 points behing Clinton and one point ahead of Obama, it actually emphasizes the fact that Hillary is not all that big in the race. Given who she has been she should have been enjoying double digit leads, but something's wrong with her.

Hey Rex, I am a Democrat and I agree with many of things Ron Paul says. How can his website say this, however:

"Americans are justifiably concerned over the government’s escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health." AND "I have been the national leader in preserving Health Freedom."

Yet, he has voted on several occasions to interfere with a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions. I am strongly against abortion, yet I don't believe it is the government's responsibility enforce it. Do you know how much that would cost? Also, banning abortion will NOT decrease the amount of abortions there are! The only way abortions can be decreased is through knowledge and (gasp) birth control. I don't understand why this country is so scared to discuss sex education.

There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right, if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
'Re getting so much resistance from behind

What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singin' songs, and carryin' signs
Mostly say "hooray for our side"

Some things never change…

Yes people, just keep piling on the hate. Look to a Hillary Presidency as a chance to "get even" for all your perceived injustices.

Don't care for Bush? Well, don't feel like the Lone Ranger. But please don't keep insisting the Clintons are the solution. They're half of the problem.

Meanwhile, your own words demonstrate my point precisely: Hillary is a divider, not a healer. Would any sane or sensible person want to keep THAT sort of pain going when we do have reasonable alternatives?

Paranoia strikes deep..into your life it will creep..it starts when your always afraid..step out a line the men come and take you away..you got to stop hey..what's that sound

Charles, Utah, Nobody is worse than Bush-Cheney on earth, if you disagree with it, you are wrong so your presumtion is incorrect. My conviction:
Hillary will lead our Country wisely and will be the greatest President in our History. You will owe Hillary and her supporters apology eventually.

To Charles in Orem, Once again another GOP person with a poor memory or, don't you remember the GOP controlled Senate going against President Clinton for every move outside our borders. Perhaps you don't remember candidate bush talking about the need to focus on America and not the rest of the world. And if the seeds of 911 germinated anywhere it was with the 1st bush and his friends in Saudi Arabia.

Charles, Utah, Nobody on earth is worse than Bush-Cheney, if you disagree with it, you are wrong, so your presumption is incorrect. My conviction: Hillary will be the greatest president and lead our Country wisely more than any man in this Country. You will owe Hillary supporters apology eventually.

Colin742,
I'm sorry your comment was cut off just as you were about to mention — what was it, something about a statue of Bill Clinton being erected by a Muslim country? Not surprising. You also alluded to the "international respect" Bill Clinton enjoyed at the time he exited the Presidency, in spite of the nasty things he was accused of and managed to squelch and keep hidden (or not). Somehow though, I doubt if the seeds for 9-11 were sown only after he left office. I seem to recall quite a few instances of attacks being made on the US during his watch, none of which prompted him to take the sort of steps that could have prevented 9-11. Say what you will about the evil Repubs, but at least we haven't had another domestic attack on US soil since 2001. The current administration is nothing to write home about, but it's simplistic to want to blame all our ills on them.
Personally, I find I could favor two of the Democratic candidates currently running, as well as two of the Republicans. They are similar in some aspects, and vastly different in others, but I dearly hope I will have the chance to have to choose between them come the general election. That way, if the person I don't select should win, I will at least be able to put my support behind the winner and wish them well and pray the country can indeed "move on."
Hillary is a divider, not a healer.

To Charles in Orem, Utah

Charles, you have twisted the facts and your pitiful attempt to claim that the current administration has been attacked by hateful people is laughable. President Clinton and his wife were respected and loved by a majority of Americans and still are today.

The current president has, along with his brother and his fathers court appointments, stolen the 2000 election and damaged our democracy for a long time to come.

As far as honesty, what happened to the Bush who in the televised debates against Gore stated "that we won't do "Nation Building" (IRAQ – almost 2 Trillion dollars waisted if we left today) That Social Security and the economy would be better with his "tax cuts" (the rich are better, the middle class is underemployed if they have a job and Social Security has not been addressed in any realistic way)

So, we have had the Clinton's with prosperity and good will around the world contrasted with Bush and the rich get richer, the poor suffer and die, the world is in peril with polluted oceans, melting ice caps, health care diminishing every day for the middle class. Hm, hard choice on what party to vote for in 2008! VOTE DEMOCRAT on every ticket.

Stephen, Naples, Florida – "NOTHING" could be worst that bush/cheney! They have bankrupted our country, launched a war in Iraq that has allowed the terrorists to get away in Afghanistan, depleted our military to raise oil prices for themselves, they might even launch WW3 with their foolish "pea brains". ANY Democrat will be better than any Republican since the republican party went lockstep along with the "fools" currently in the White House. The GOP needs to take a break from "ruling" and get a grip on their beliefs. The GOP needs to get back to supporting the individuals rights against big government, supporting fiscal responsibility instead of major pork barrel red state giveaways. A vote for Hillary will allow the USA to regain a path toward the future that can be embraced by the vast majority of Americans. The GOP has catered to the rich and foolish extreme right wing for too long, they have lost their way! VOTE DEMOCRAT!

Charles in Orem, Utah : 4:04 pm

Re your critisism of the Clintons

Over $100,000,000 was wasted by Republicans on investigations of the Clintons and nothing was found except that Bill had an inproper consentual relationship with some woman. (like FDR and JFK did). 65% of the American people did not approve of the Impeachment which was a political stunt. Bill left office with a 65% job approval rate. He and the United States were internationally respected. Now, the world is disgusted with the US and its leaders.

There is hope. There are internationally respected Americans who can redeem the nations reputation trashed by the Bush Aministration. They are (1) Bill Clinton for what he did as president and for the work he has done in getting pharmaceutical to poor countries and billions of dollars of aid projects,(2) Al Gore for his(Nobel Prize) Global Warming warning effort,(3) Jimmie Carter for his work on democratic elections and (4)Hillary Clinton ( gave the keynote address on Human Rights to 3000 delegates at a conference in China). Do you know what Muslim nation has erected a statue in Bill Clinton's honor,

May I suggest to anyone interested that they watch a couple of videos. The first one from Geirge Carlin at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCnbVWZzvw

After you're done watching that, would you kindly watch this one from Ron Paul:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA

And after you're finished, do you still believe that Hilary Clinton is what's best for you, your children and your fellow countrymen and women?

I notice a lot of the suporters of Hillary are from Cal.,Ill., and New York and a few from Florida. These are all states with very large cities. These people seem out of touch with the rest of the country and should no winning these state alone will not get Hillary elected the proof of this is the last two elections. It is right in front of you if you want the scum bag republicans kicked out you will have to support a candidate that can win the primary election and Hillary is simply not electable in a majority of the country there is no way people in the midwest and south will ever vote for Hillary.

If you think Bush/Cheney is bad, just wait until you get Clinton/Pelosi in charge of the government.

Ahhh, Hillary knows how to buy her votes – she buys the ad space (i.e. news stories about her polling) every other day. Gotta admire her "practices" but haven't we had enough of misleading politicians?

Hillary, it's a little too late to learn that arrogance doesn't play in american politics. We don't like coronations here. I thought with your arrogant management of healthcare reform in the 90's would of taught you a lesson. But with the Hsu, chinese dishwasher donations and the Iraqi/Iran votes-it's obivous you don't learn from past failures. Your the flip side of George Bush- once a failure always a failure.

Why is everybody so mad on these message boards?

Posted By Karen,nj : October 21, 2007 2:34 pm

Karen, ny — you've asked an excellent question that deserves an answer. Here's how I see it:
During the (Bill) Clinton presidency, there were a great many legitimate concerns about underhanded dealings, financial improprieties, abuse of powers, and moral scandal. The President's wife led the defensive counter charge by blaming all of her and her husband's problems on a "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was "out to get them." This tactic was so effective that even when the President disgraced the moral integrity of his office by having a sexual relationship with an intern and then lied about it to Congress and the entire country and was ultimately impeached, most of the members of the Democratic Party were so offended that one of their own was shown to be a putz that they developed a deep, irrational hatred for anything and everyone non-Democrat. When the aftertaste from Clinton's scandal barely prevented the Democratic nominee from winning the White House in 2000, the Republican who was elected was virtually demonized, and whatever he attempted was subject to a level of hatred and divisiveness that the country hadn't seen since the Vietnam War era.
The lesson we can take from this is clear: Hillary Clinton is a divider, not a healer. If the worst should ever come to pass and she is elected President of the United States, we can look forward to at least another decade of the divisions and hatred that have afflicted us for the past ten years. The sad thing is that ANY other Democratic canditate would be a shoo-in, but Hillary will continue to polarize a huge portion of the nation and almost assure the election of whoever is running against her.

I am a resident of Upstate NY, and I am still waiting for all the jobs she promised us in 2000. She can't even be counted to show up when we have issues with keeping the Buffalo Bills. The media is eager for whatever reason to annoint her as the nominee. The problem with that is that she has a negative rating approaching 50%. No one can predict what happens with all the primaries boxed so close together to open the primary season. Will it be winner takes all, or will five candidates each have a slice, with ongoing negotiations

Why is everybody so mad on these message boards?

We all ready are in hell! We are on the Eve of Destruction.

If she wins our county will go to hell

I'm really concerned about the possibility another scandal in the White House could undermine the effectiveness of the next President, so if I may, I'd like to address an open question to Mrs Clinton:
Hillary, since your husband seems to prefer oral sex (at least with younger women), do you feel, if elected, you will be able to keep him away from the interns by satisfying his manly needs in this respect?

China-Town for Hillary!!!

New dish in her honory: Eat Sum Dung

Campaign Finance scandals

Socialist ideology and entitlement programs

Special Interest money-taker

Votes FOR Iraq War

Votes FOR Iraq War funding

Votes FOR giving Bush going after Iran (Kyl-Lieberman)

Supports exporting US jobs (NAFTA)

Expects endorsement from unions

Amnesty for Illegal Aliens

Hillary '08, Republican back in the White House '09.

she's gonna win!!! Clinton '08!

A.Thomas in N.Y. and all in Hillaryland:

PLEASE NOTE, ONE MORE TIME:

There are Dems and Indies who ALSO won't vote for Hillary. Ever. And we won't be manipulated or made feel guilty to vote for her to support the party if she is nominated.

If some Dems are addicted to Clintons, they need to be treated like addicts and hit the rock- bottom first. Don't count on us to come to your rescue in general elections.

I vote my conscience, not "the party".

Hillary Clinton says "that she looks at her campaign as if she were 'ten or twenty points behind.'" I give her behind a 5, at most!

Posted By Brunos Albequrke NM :
Hillay, how come the Democrats only blast Bush for the current Iraqi war situation. But none say what they would have done in response to 911

Bruno: Are you one of those morons who still believe Bush lies that Irak was involved in any way in 911. As I recall 100% of Democrats supported the US attack on Afghanistan where BinLaden was located. Unfortunatly, Bush let him get away while he sent troops to IRAK to increase price of oil'

Hey A.Thomas of New York, the margin for error in the Zogby poll was 1%. It wasn't your normal online poll, check it out:

Released: October 20, 2007
Survey Methodology [National Likely Voters] 10/11/07 thru 10/15/07

Zogby International commissioned an online survey of [9976 likely voters].

A sampling of Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the US, was invited to participate. Slight weights were added [region, party, age, race, religion, gender] to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 1.0 percentage points. Margins of error are higher in sub-groups.

Zogby International’s sampling and weighting procedures also have been validated through its political polling: more than 95% of the firm’s polls have come within 1% of actual election-day outcomes.

http://www.zogby.com/methodology/readmeth.dbm?ID=1223

I've said time and time again hat I am firmly entrenched in the half of the population that will NEVER under ANY circumstances vote for Hillary Clinton.

It just remains to be seen whether we have an honest election this time. After all, the Clintons are good friends of the Bushes.

GO HILLARY!
"real Presidents don't cackle"? What? I suppose real leaders say things like, "…So I've told people, that if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing them from having the knowledge necessary to make a nucUlar weapon; hehh, hehh, hehh." They (Iran)already have the knowledege. The US has the demonstrated capacity to inflict mass death and destruction. We should be much more concerned about the next US president's self restraint and ability to out-think our adversaries. As it stand, the collective intellectual power and basic human decency of both the neo-con candidates and their supporters is vastly inferior to Hillary and her supporters. Go ahead and continue to spew vitriolic slander. It only serves to support my case. GO HILLARY!

So now Hillary want the government to control our eating habits??? Is this woman serious? God help us all!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/10/19/2007-10-19_hillary_talks_us_eating_habits_at_health.html

I'll be happy when all this election fuss is over, and Hillary can get started straightening this mess all out.
GO, HILLARY!! You have my vote, and I am sure a lot of the sensible people's vote.

Someone needs to poll the southern people for both Obama and Clinton. Then you will see how much of a looser both of them are. That is why Hillery chose to run for Senator from New York instead of Arkansas. Anyone who has lived in the South even for a brief time knows this to be fact.

Oh that's good Republicants…continue with the demonization… if the Clintons didn't "take away our precious guns" in their two terms (with having a dem controlled congress during the first term) than they never will. Stop trying to scare other voters. Fear and Smear …the Republicant party.

- Democrat that owns guns

She's not going to be the frontrunner for long as more people see this video:

"…Working as hard as I can everyday…"

"Everyday" is an adjective. Please be more careful with grammar.

Power hungry leftist who wants to change the demographic and fundamental state of the union. She's destroy innovation, dictate how your children are raised, open the borders and change the demographic of this country to ensure conservative christians are disenfranchised everywhere. Oh, and she'll take away your right to bear arms as well. Welcome to the nanny state.

Well, it looks like Hillary was for being considered inevitable before she was against being considered inevitable. Kind of like she was for Iraq before being against Iraq. Or like she was against unconditional diplomacy with Iran before she was for it. Or like she was against taking nukes of the table with Iran before she was for it. Or like she was for baby bonds before she was against them.

Regardless of what polls of an unengaged electorate say now, why do people think a polarizing figure so easily portrayed as a flip flopper is our strongest general election candidate? Being on every side of important national security issues really worked out well for John Kerry in '04, didn't it? Yes, guys…we loved BIll and we loved the 90's. The thing is that triangulation was cute back then…we didn't seem to have really big problems. The times are too serious for the poll-driven politics of the Clintons and we can't afford to sacrifice the Deocratic party for the Clintons. Remember 1994, folks…when the Clintons lost congress. Why do we want to unite the Republicans at a time when nominating anyone else would leave them divided?

Chris, Middletown, CT

Hillary was never a student of Saul Alinsky. All she did was write a thesis about him.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17388372/

I just read the comment Hillary is just like Bush. Maybe Bush could have been a good President had it not been for Cheney, Karl Rove, and The Neocon movement. Lets try to give Hillary a chance to put this counrty back together and not try to divide everything in a finite manner.

A. Thomas,… You are all the rest are really voting for Bill Clinton, you long for the old days of 1993 of trials and special procecutors,… Rudy will take this country through hell and back before it's all over.

Posted By Lee : October 21, 2007 1:22 am

Guess you are a die-hard republican and giuliani supporter. My comments to you are:

1) There was economic propspertity during the bill clinton administration. My stock portfolio value doubled or trippled in late 1990's, and then halfed during Bush yrs. The former Fef Reserve Chairman, Allan Greenspan, said Bill Clinton and Nixon are the only two economically smart presidents in last 30 yrs.

In addition, most Democrats associate the Clinton years with peace and prosperity rather than stained dresses and disappearing furniture. Bill Clinton left office with a job-approval rating of 66%. Three-quarters of Democrats, and 53% of voters in general, would like him to play an active role in a future Clinton administration. Nearly nine in ten Democratic voters (88%) express a positive view of Hillary's candidacy; 38% express a very positive view.

2)Hillary will beat Giuliani, if he gets nominated, easily in the next general election. Reasons:

a) See my earlier post for reasons why Hillary's advantages over other presidential candidates, including giuliani.

b) Hillary beat giuliani in polls during the 2000 senate race, although he withdrew later. In the new york state (where both reside) now, hillary also beat giuliani in head to head polls.

c) Giuliani is yet to be under scrutiny, as hillary has been subject to. There are lots of bad stuff of giulini yet to surface, after his nomination if any. All we know so far is that people close to him dont like him: His ex-wife, his kids, his employees (firemen and policemen), etc. He lacks good personal character to be a president.

d) Giuliani has no experience in federal and international politics. He is just a former city mayor, whose city was attacked by the 9/11 terrorists. He did nothing to stop the attack and has done nothing significance since.

e) A new poll puts another crimp in the Hillary-is-unelectable argument, finding that she's beating Rudy Giuliani in head-to-head matchups in the top three swing states.
The new Quinnipiac poll found that she's leading Rudy in Pennsylvania (48%-42%), Ohio (46%-40%), Florida (46%-43%). It should be noted, however, that the poll's margin of error is a little over 6% in all three states. Another key fact: In all three states, sizable majorities say they're not too likely or not at all likely to change their minds, leading Quinnipiac to conclude that her "support appears to be as deep as it is wide."

I know it is sad news to you. The sooner you accept it, the happy you will be.

Quotable quotes from Senator Clinton

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=25371

Steve from Lyons, CO,

Get help…

Zogby Poll: Half Say They Would Never Vote for Hillary Clinton for President

Other top tier candidates in both parties win more acceptance; Richardson & Huckabee favored most

The online survey of 9,718 likely voters nationwide…. http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1376
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Posted By Matt Sutton, Medford, Oregon : October 20, 2007 10:35 pm

I just cannot beleieve people including of Matt Sutton believe in this INTERACTIVE ONLINE poll! That is not a scientic poll at all, as other polls (like CNN, Gallup, etc.). If I want to, I personally can make that Zogby interactive online poll to be 95.66% favouring Hillary.

Again, those people who said not having found a friend supporting hillary have a narrow circle of friends (e.g., you are all republicans, or communists) and should find more friends. And, those who dont beleive in polls of CNN, Gallup, Fox New, etc.showing hillary is leading are in denial, and is bad for their mental health.

Watching the back and forth – I see all of the Hillary supporters and it reminds me of….well…the Branch Davidians and David Koresh – sure they followed him blindly….but I really don't think that the country will give Saul Alinsky's student (who has become the teacher) – the nod

I really don't think that the Democrats are nervous. There is no possible way we will lose at having Hillary elected. Also there are numerous Republicans who are also going to vote for a democrat because they are disqusted. Just talk to people on the street, I do, they'll tell you. I always talk to strangers about what a mess this country is in, no one has ever disagreed. People are angry!

hey steve from co,, while you were listing your real presidents don't slams, you forgot to list hillary's. we all know what they are and so do you, her cackle being the least of her troubles. theres not enough room on this page to fit them all, is that why you left them off ????

As an Iowa resident and a caucus attendee i can tell you that polls are totally unusable for this format. The weather, the date, the last minute gaff by any candidate can sink the ship. This format is neighbors getting together and talking to each other about thier likes and dislikes and polititions that think they have an atendee on a string find them setting with thier friends in another camp on caucus night, Democracy at it's finest. No impersonal voting booth where your decision is based on the media buzz. Friends telling you who they like and why.

Hillary 2008! Bring America back, Hillary! We love you!

Hey Kelly from Arizona,

I think you should move to Canada. We love immigrants, are incredibly tolerant of gay people (we'll let you have kids if you want to!) and hey, we even have a stronger dollar right now.

Even better, we have much less ridiculous political posturing for 8 years before an election (a la Hillary) or scary religious right-dominated major parties (I think we all know who I'm talking about here)…

There were two polls since that Des Moines one. Strategic Vision's had Clinton up by a few points, while Rasmussen's was the first with Clinton in double digits.

"everyday" should be "every day."

Personally, I think Hillary is not qualified to be president.

What has she led and commanded? A state? nope. A city? Nope. An army? nope. A large company? nope.

as far as I can tell, she was first lady, and a rather mundane and vanilla senator from New York (where she moved for political expediency).

I don't think she has the policy stripes nor the leadership to actually do the job

go Rudy – he's led and fixed NYC – more leading than Hillary could ever claim
He didn t fix NYC ..what are you taling about…potholes maybe that is what a mayor does and Hillary is the Senator there she fixes the problems in all Citys and THE STATE>so dont tell me she doesn't run a city,or the army she is on the armed services committee .and on a Company well,she hasnt but was offered by Sam walton to run the Wal mart.she has more expierence than rG.Period.hes weird anyway.and By the way she defeated HIM.he turned his back on the IRaq study group also.

How dare you "my911call" from Wilmington, NC. You gotta vote for our home boy! We've seen enough crap the past 8 years and I'm not about to see some Yankee win the White House. You should know those around you will vote Republican UNLESS Edwards is nominated.

But go ahead and throw Hillary to the Republicans and we'll see another election go to them. You should be ashamed of yourself former North Carolinian.

This time money is not going to do it.
The change already is that democrats have someone to vote for who is not manipulated by special interests

Really, shouldn't Bill be doing the campaigning ? He is much better at it. Anyway Go Hillary. You got my Vote !

Comment on some real issues Hillary. We already know you are not the Front Runner. What would have been your response to 911. You all claim to be real experts on Iraq now at this time. But please explain what your response to 911 would have been ? Something more than Cackling about it ?

Hillary, you don't stand a chance against Obama, unless you can show that you are related to Dick Cheney. This is the most important issue of the coming Election.

Hillary we already know you are certainly not the Front Runner. Why do you waste our time telling us stuff we already know ?

The other Democrats don't have a chance. They can't Cackle. And Repbulicans don't know how to Cackle, so that tells us who the next President is. Cackling is more important than being related to Dick Cheney. Sorry Obama, but thanks for trying anyway.

Hillary is by far the most qualified candidate of this Election. Why don't we just Vote now, instead of waste all of the next year deciding ? Go Hillary !! You got my Vote !!!

You got my Vote, go Hillary !!!!!!!

The only person NOT to trust is Ron Paul.

You'd think if she didn't consider herself a front runner she'd answer questions honestly and directly instead of giving a safe BS answer like she always does.

She can say she doesn't think she's a front runner all she wants but she's running her campaign like she is. Stop lying to the people Hillary! We're not as stupid as you think we are, at least I hope we aren't….

A. Thomas,political propaganda person for Billary Campaign you left out one thing in your rant to other dems not voting for Billary. You are all the rest are really voting for Bill Clinton, you long for the old days of 1993 of trials and special procecutors, the torture of Bush as president is not enough, she will or
Rudy will take this country through hell and back before it's all over. I just hope we all will be around for four years to complain about "why the hell, I put that women with her husband as proxy back in the White House." Nothing will change, more of the same, with right wing conspiracy theory still haunting us. Wake up America.

Dave, Cheverly, MD

I disagree that the "gay issue cost the Democrats the 04 election." I think there were a lot more factors involved. I'm all for saving the entire country and voting for Obama (as I think you are leaning towards him too). Kelly is a young lady who is legitimately concerned about her future, a legal voter voicing her opinion, and doesn't deserve to be patronized.

first of all what the heck is with the obbession over clinton's cackle? if that's the first thing about clinton that you have to bash then i feel afraid about the future of or country. it's just her laugh people, get over it.
now that we've gotten through that let's actually talk about her in relation to politics. my opinion is that clinton is a pretty smart woman and if she wins the nation will at least be better then it has been since bush took over. of course she isn't perfect and it's not like i agree with every thing she stands for but she has the ability to lead us somewhere that doesn't have a dead end at the end of it and that's good enough for me. honestly, i wouldn't feel bad if obama or edwards won either; all of the dems are pretty good candidates as far as i'm concerned.
on the otherhand i understand that she's working hard and all but let's be real: she's the frontrunner in this whole election, she knows it, and she usually shows it too even if she doesn't say it directly.

Lots of folks who will be crying in their beers not too long from now. Their one consolation is the 10 yearsa they'll have to work on their insults.

Personally, I think Hillary is not qualified to be president.

What has she led and commanded? A state? nope. A city? Nope. An army? nope. A large company? nope.

as far as I can tell, she was first lady, and a rather mundane and vanilla senator from New York (where she moved for political expediency).

I don't think she has the policy stripes nor the leadership to actually do the job

go Rudy – he's led and fixed NYC – more leading than Hillary could ever claim

does anyone really care what the voters or even the people in iowa or new hampshire want as president? these two states suck more press, television and carbon for travel than they are worth and after 3 months, we still have seventeen more months to have them proven wrong again.

To Mountain Man, CO:

You cannot change the past and I have no reason to misreport it. Here is one of the sources I used and the link to the poll numbers 2003.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/17/opinion/polls/main589167.shtml

As I said one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?

SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:

Dean polls 38%
Kerry 17%.
Edwards 12%

Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
Dean Iowa 18%

SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:

Dean Poll 45%
Kerry 20%.
Edwards 2%

Kerry WINS NH 39%
Howard Dean 12%
Edwards 32%

Yep she ain't nothing as far as I'm concerned! So that is the only thing I agree with her on!

I hope she isn't.

She labeled parts of the Iranian military terrorist (oh, but she won't attack them)

She said troops in Iraq till 2013…please.

She and Rudy G. are basically the same person. They are both social liberals and Pro-war.

Hey, listen; let's say you want to get a new roof on your house. Do you hire someone who has been in charge of a roofing company for years? Or do you hire an apprentice who hasn't been in charge of anything thus far; but says they can do the same job for half the cost? Or, do you take a look at the new company, that just discovered a better way to roof your house and make it last twice as long, and will cost less because they will not destroy your housing structure in the process. Now look at the situation and ask yourself "what am I going to lose by trying something different?, If they were wrong, so be it. At least it was better than already knowing my house structure would be crippled in the process." Now take that, and apply it Next November.

Um, Steve, a**h**e, first of all do not call me "baby" and secondly, I assume you are a Hillary supporter based on the tone of your comment. You have the same attitude she has which is one of the many reasons people despise her. You seem a bit defensive – getting nervous, perhaps? Well, at least she'll get one vote.

Some of people who are in CNN just to hate Hillary. They don't have any issue except hating HIllary. Real people don't hate other people disagree about the issues. People who are sociaopath are human haters. It seems some of extreme right wings and left wings are competing in Hillary hating contest. Good luck, losers!

GoHill!

Posted By BaracktheVote, Des Moines, IA : October 20, 2007 8:10 pm

You bring the context and post these quotes, don't post any quotes to attack some one; this is a just like a lying.

you Hillary Haters…stop whining!
GoHill!!!!!

Oh, and yes, we sure enjoyed the first post. Please remember, Hillary, Real Presidents don't cackle.

"I am not the Front Runner". Real major point of your speech Hillary. Please inform us your important policies, or at least something we don't know. It is quite obvious, and we are quite aware that you are certainly not "The Front Runner". Please be more informative in your campaign information. Like are you related to Dick Cheney ?

Semi-articulately:
"Hillay, how come the Democrats only blast Bush for the current Iraqi war situation. But none say what they would have done in response to 911."

How come none of you Republicans supporting our Worst. President. Ever. keep forgetting there shouldn't have BEEN a 9-11. Bush received a memo from the falsely-maligned CIA that was ENTITLED, for cripes sake, "Bin Laden Plans To Attack Inside U.S."

Instead, the religiously-deluded fool we call president went on vacation for 30 days, returning only days before 9-11.

You'd think someone would've shot the dork by now for something that stupid.

The American people are clueless. Hiliary is a joke. She is out for herself. A vote for Hilary is a vote against America. Dems believe that the people can not take care of themselves. They thing that the goverment has to take care of the people. There is a lot wrong with this county but we have to start with personal accountability.

"real Presidents don't Cackle."

Real presidents aren't puppets of their criminal and treasonous vice presidents.

Real presidents worry about the people, not the rich and entitled.

Real presidents know how to speak without staring at notes.

Real presidents start wars when they're attacked, and don't lie about intelligence so they can start a war for oil, implement a theocratic Iraqi constitution, then pretend that we're fighting for democracy.

Real presidents don't turn off the Constitution they've sworn to protect and defend.

Real presidents don't torture prisoners of war. Real presidents don't imprison people indefinitely without access to lawyers or legal process.

Real presidents don't get punch in the eye by their vice president, then pretend they "choked on a pretzel and fell on a table."

Real presidents don't desert the National Guard like cowards.

Real presidents aren't potential jailbirds, saved by insider trading charges because Daddy is president.

Real presidents don't create the biggest deficits in history.

Real presidents don't veto health care for children when they're spending billions a week on a war started by lies and sustained by lies.

Want me to go on? Cackle.

Hillary, let Bill do the campaigning, he is much better at it.

HALF Polled by Zogby say they would NEVER vote for…

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Zogby Poll: Half Say They Would Never Vote for Hillary Clinton for President

Other top tier candidates in both parties win more acceptance; Richardson & Huckabee favored most

While she is winning wide support in nationwide samples among Democrats in the race for their party’s presidential nomination, half of likely voters nationwide said they would never vote for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, a new Zogby Interactive poll shows.

The online survey of 9,718 likely voters nationwide showed that 50% said Clinton would never get their presidential vote. This is up from 46% who said they could never vote for Clinton in a Zogby International telephone survey conducted in early March. Older voters are most resistant to Clinton – 59% of those age 65 and older said they would never vote for the New York senator, but she is much more acceptable to younger voters: 42% of those age 18–29 said they would never vote for Clinton for President.

http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1376
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THIS IS PRECISELY WHY THE REPUBLICANS WANT HER TO GET NOMINATED!!

"The Democrats made all kinds of promises when they got the majority in Congress, but they have not delivered one thing."

Um, Carol baby, this is how it works: if you don't have a veto-proof majority, and if the opposition party votes straight with the president like the robotic children they are, then nothing gets done.

Worry not. That won't be the problem after the '08 election. Dems will do as they please.

Contemplate that.

Hillay, how come the Democrats only blast Bush for the current Iraqi war situation. But none say what they would have done in response to 911.

Read this KELLY the 23 yr. old lez from NY:

We do care, and we need you and those like you, that care about the loss of the American way of life. A partner to love freely is the best thing in life, so we understand. But, what kind of life will the future bring if we don't fight the issues that threaten the freedom & happiness of us all. Gay, straight, black, white, brown, all of us that have to work for a living are under constant economic attack from our own government and the ruling elite that control it. We need to all vote for the candidate who will strive to change government or die trying. Don't believe the candidate payed-for polls, do some political research, don't give up and for America's sake, don't vote for Hillary.

"I consider myself someone who's working as hard as I can everyday to earn the support of Iowans, and that's what I'm going to keep doing." Last time I checked, Iowa was but one state in this country….that was a very ominous quote in my opinion. I believe that reveals the politics behind the politics. Last time I looked, we are not sheep. Let's prove it come election time next November.

Do the Democrats run CNN ?? Or is CNN and independant news reporting business ?

I really think the Democrats should have a Cackling contest.

Hillary, have you ever thought about running as a Republican ?

Hillary,

You have been coasting for some time believing the national polls and gleefully watching the primaries get moved up (to benefit your name recognition nationally). Us conservatives WANT you to win the nomination!

The lightly simmering stories about Hillary (Norman Hsu, Mr Jinnah, China-town Connection, etc) will remain low level stories until you're the official nominee. THEN we will share the facts with the nation, show the connections between the illegal chinese donations to Bill and now your campaign. You will be defending yourself throughout the campaign and the country will be forced to decide: Another 4 years of scandal under a different Clinton (return to Clinton fatigue) or a new face (likely a moderate conservative like Guiliani).

It won't even be close! Landslide victory for another Republican White House.

Noooo – you're not the "front runner". But we conservatives will be pulling for you!

Hillary, are you related to Dick Cheney, like Obama is ? Isn't this more important than the sound of Cackling ? I don't think Obama can Cackle. So actually he should be listed as the Front Runner, since he is more importantly, related to
Dick Cheney. And in the world of politics, it seems that is more important.

Dave I don't know where you got that 03 Poll but it is completly wrong! I was in IA in 03 and Dean and Gephardt were neck and neck in IA all the way up until Husien was captured then things started to break for Kerry. If you have a point to make about this campaign say it without misrepresenting the facts.

God this happened to both parties in the '04 season. I hated it then and I hate it now. Its the part when the frontrunners who are up 20 to 30 points and $5 to $10 million try to convince everybody that they have somehow slipped into underdog status and will only have a fighting chance if the troops rally.

Its embarassing, insulting and stupid.

You can bet that the Clinton campaign has done some polling and has figured out that the voters don't appreciate Hillary acting like the election has already been decided. So — poof — humble Hillary. Every word, action, inaction and laugh is a calculation. Has she spoken out about the FISA telecom amnesty bill yet? Working hard for us huh?

Once again, she dispels Obama's and Edawrds'repeated allegation that she considers herself as a front runner. As a true leader, she is "working as hard as I can everyday to earn the support of Iowans, and that's what I'm going to keep doing."

Dave of Chevely once agin put out some 2004 poll numbers with the intentsion showing that Hillary is like Howard Dean of 2004. Well, as I pointed out weeks ago about his error, Dave has failed to know the following advantages that Hillary has, and Howard Dean didnt have:

a) She has the most effective (high poll number) and efficient (least spent on $ raised)campaign machine of all candidates.

b) She has most money raised, and on hand, of all candidates to get her messages to voters.

c) This is the clintons' 3rd bid for president, and they won the first two.

d) Hillary is leading in national and state polls over other dem candidates by a big margin, and her lead surges recently.

e) Hillary will win all blue states, most purple states, and may grap a few red states (at least arizona). This cannot be said by obama or edwards (or howard dean of 2004). She does not to have paint the whole america blue to become the next president; all she needs is one more state than John Kerry.

f) She has the most support from womenen than any candidates, when half of the voters are women.

g) She also has more supports from the blacks than the black candidate, Obama.

I see that the supporters of obama and edwards, like their candidates, do not believe in polls, and disagree the above facts, but their constant state of denial is bad for their mental health.

Hillary is saying this as she knows Obama truly has more support than she does. she's nervous.

To Kelly Mesa, AZ:

Sweetie.. This is NOT the time to make such an issues as your whole "except me cause I'm gay thing". It just aint the time for that. Sometimes it is ok to just sit in the back of the room and keep quiet! That Gay issue cost the Democrats the 2004 election. I know you don't care about that. But we are talking about saving the Entire country and the free world this year. Ok!!??

This is ridiculous. Hillary is so popular because the MEDIA is making her popular. No other candidate gets as much air time as her. Why? Because Hillary is exactly like Bush. When she becomes president, she will rake in the bucks by going to war with Iran. As long as that happens, huge corporations like Turner and NewsCorp will also be raking in the bucks.

The whole system in this country makes me sick. And oftentimes (lately) CNN has been making me sick. The only genuine candidates whom I see are Kucinich and Gravel, but neither of them will get the attention that they truly deserve, since they don't want war and they consider the U.S. a nation AMONG other nations (as opposed to ABOVE other nations).

I am a little confused too. I have never been polled either. Although I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton. I never trust polls because they interview like 400 people and based on that project what the rest of the population thinks. I think all the polls saying Clinton is the frontrunner by far is going to hurt her in the end because a lot of people will not even bother voting (for her or anyone else) because they think she has it locked up already so they would consider it a waste of time. I do not care what polls say, I am going to vote in the primary and hopefully in the general election for Hillary Clinton.

P.S. All these people who keep saying "I have never met anyone who is for Clinton", you obviousily do not know anybody or you are in a social group that does not allow people with different opinions in. I know a lot of people who are for Clinton, a lot for Obama, and quite a few for Ron Paul. Maybe you people need to open your eyes and your life to differing opinions.

Clinton 08′

Marco…Where did you find figures that prove that people around the world respect Hillary Clinton? Most people I know think it is bizarre that two families in power for over 20 tearsis the best 300 000 people can do…not to mention the nuts, and dangerous men, running for the Republicans…Bill Clinton is respected for his humanitarian aid after being president..I doubt if that translates into views about his wife.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, R-New York, spoke before the Family Research Council's Values Voter Summit Saturday telling the Christian based crowed "you have nothing to fear from me."

The White House hopeful came to the event facing opposition for his stance on abortion rights. He addressed the issue head on saying that he would continue the model he used while mayor of New York to "increase adoptions and decrease abortions."

Giuliani, who supports abortion rights, said he would continue to support the ban on partial birth abortions, support parental notification laws, and support the Hyde amendment, which denies federal funding for abortions. He would also make the $10,000 tax credit for adoptions permanent and "cut the red tape" involved in the adoption process. He continued by saying he would make judicial appointments in the mold of Chief Justice John Roberts, Justice Anthony Scalia, Justice Clarence Thomas, and Justice Samuel Alito, who are the most conservative members of the Supreme Court.

The former mayor told the audience that he came before them "with an open mind and an open heart, and all I ask is that you so the same."

But he also made it clear the he would not "pretend that I can be all things to all people."

He emphasized that he would not change his beliefs in order to tell them what they wanted to hear and at the same time made a veiled attack on his Republican rival Mitt Romney.

"For me to twist myself all up, to try to figure out exactly what you want to hear, and today say one thing and tomoorow say another thing, and a year from now, if you do that too long, you lose the sense of what leadership is all about," said Giuliani.

"Isn't it better that I tell you what I really believe," Giuliani asked the audience, "instead of pretending to change all of my positions to fit the prevailing winds?"

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney at one time supported abortion rights but has since reversed his position on the issue.

Giuliani later reinforced his belief in God saying, "my belief in God and reliance on His guidance is at the core of who I am."

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Democrat John Edwards blamed Bill Clinton's administration Saturday for trade agreements unpopular with labor unions and warned against electing "corporate Democrats."

The Democratic presidential hopeful, speaking to union carpenters, tied rival Hillary Rodham Clinton to the business interests that unions claim were served by her husband's trade
liberalization, to the detriment of workers.

Edwards described the North American Free Trade Agreement as a blow to the middle class that President Clinton put in place while the first lady was failing in her mission to reform health care.

"In the 1990s, we didn't get universal health care, which we needed," he said. "We got NAFTA, which we didn't need.

"I think we've been asking the wrong questions about these proposed trade deals," he added. "The question seems to have been, 'Is this trade deal good for the profits of big multinational corporations?"

Edwards said his administration would ask, "Is this trade deal good for jobs and for working, middle-class America?"

The former North Carolina senator says he would renegotiate the 1993 deal that lowered trade barriers among the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

New York Sen. Clinton said recently that trade agreements, including NAFTA, should be reviewed every five years to make sure "they're meeting their goals or to make adjustments if they are not."

Edwards described the stakes of the presidential race in stark terms, asking the crowd if they want to live in a country made up of "a few rich people and everybody else." He suggested his Democratic rivals would not serve the interests of workers.

"Do you want to trade a crowd of corporate Republicans that are running this country now for a crowd of corporate Democrats?" he asked. "That's not us."

Edwards is depending on the carpenters union in Nevada to help drive turnout in the Jan. 19 caucuses.

The local union and its international endorsed him in August. The union has 12,000 members in Nevada, although many are Republicans or nonpartisans.

Edwards met privately with members of another large Nevada union during his campaign stop in the state, his 14th since launching his presidential campaign. The Service Employees International Union, with about 17,000 members in Nevada, says it is considering endorsing Edwards, Clinton or Illinois Sen. Barack Obama.

Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, said Saturday that she looks at her campaign as if she were "ten or twenty points behind."

I am a 23yr old lesbian from Ny who now lives in Arizona with my girlfriend of 6 years. I've never been much into politics but as I find myself getting a little older I'm worried that because of people like our presidential candidates that I will never be able to get married. Which really disturbs me. So I went looking around today on a few websites to see where I would HAVE to get married, and since I can't get married in my own country I now will have to go to Canada and then what's the point? I thought this was a free country. Wasn't that very fact instilled into my head since the day I was born? That America was great because you could be who you were without having to worry about anyone chastizing you for it. Apparently I was told wrong. Other than that, I don't care. I don't care about immigration laws because we're all immigrants anyway so who cares. I don't care about taxes because by the time I get them back, I'll probably already be dead. I don't care about abortion since no one will let lesbian couples adopt. It all boils down to this and I know I'm not the only one.. If you don't care why should I?

Clinton: I'm no frontrunner in Iowa
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, campaigned in Iowa Saturday.
DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) – Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, said Saturday that she looks at her campaign as if she were "ten or twenty points behind."

Clinton–ahead in the latest national polls by as much as 30 points–made the comments to reporters when asked if she considers herself the frontrunner in Iowa, a state where she holds a much smaller lead.

"No," Clinton said. "I consider myself someone who's working as hard as I can everyday to earn the support of Iowans, and that's what I'm going to keep doing."

"I'm well aware that no one has voted. No one has caucused. We have a long way to go before that happens and I don't take anything for granted."

In the latest Des Moines Register poll among 399 likely Democratic caucusgoers Clinton was in the lead in the Hawkeye State with 29 points. Former Sen. John Edwards, D-North Carolina, sat at 23 points, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois followed closely with 22. The margin of error was plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.

-CNN Iowa Producer Chris Welch

Once again, Hillary Clinton holds her finger up in the wind and responds accordingly.

Go Obama!

Ya, keep lying! She is a front runner of CNN headlines till people proof the media wrong. I hope she won't scream like dean!

Who are these pollsters talking to? I haven't spoken to one person that would vote for her. She is not the next president (thank God). The Democrats made all kinds of promises when they got the majority in Congress, but they have not delivered one thing. They wimp out, and whine, then write letters to radio talk show hosts to show how tough they are. This is going to come back to haunt her. The Dems had it all handed to them and they screwed it up again. If they nominate her, that will be their next mistake. Anybody but Hillary…..

Hillary Clinton is a smart woman. Her status as a front runner will not stop the hard work she's doing. She has been proven thru the fire many times and has come on top. She has the experience, the passion, the knowledge and the temper to be President and stand strong in the world arena. She has something no other candidate has: credibility in the international arena. People around the world respect her and listens to her. That;s what we need now.

For 25 out of my 29 years on this planet, a Bush or a Clinton has been President or Vice President of the United States. That is pretty scary and doesn't sound healthy for our country. Come on people..let's see what can come of some positive change for this country.

Hillary Clinton bashing is NOT going to change the people's minds. She has been under constant bashing since she started to run for president. She makes her speeches and gives her view on the various subjects. The people are listening and their instincts are telling them that she is the one.
After Bush (twice), the people are smarter now. They are not falling for the bashing trick any more. This is why Hillary is still ahead in the polls even after all the bashing. She will try to put into motion what the people desire and need.

If Clinton wins the nomination, it will be Republican vs. Republican Light. I'm hopeful, however, that once people start to realize that Clinton would be a continuation of Washington as usual, they will seek a change. To be honest, Obama, Edwards, Richardson, and Biden would all create positive change. We don't need to be run anymore by the Bush/Clinton dynasty.

CNN
Why to you put so much faith in these polls of 307 and 399 people?
Come on!
She is correct for once saying she is no front runner. She slimed in thru the back with her illegal money.
Obama 08

This is not comparing any Candidate with Dean. But one must ask WHOM are they polling to be this far off the results?
NO Campaign should be celebrating yet..

SEPT – DEC 2003 IOWA Poll:

Dean polls 38%
Kerry 17%.
Edwards 12%

Kerry WINS IOWA 38%
Dean Iowa 18%

SEPT – DEC 2003 NEW HAMPSHIRE poll:

Dean Poll 45%
Kerry 20%.
Edwards 2%

Kerry WINS NH 39%
Howard Dean 12%
Edwards 32%

real Presidents don't Cackle.