Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, campaigned in Iowa Saturday.
DES MOINES, Iowa (CNN) – Democratic White House hopeful Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, said Saturday that she looks at her campaign as if she were "ten or twenty points behind."
Clinton–ahead in the latest national polls by as much as 30 points–made the comments to reporters when asked if she considers herself the frontrunner in Iowa, a state where she holds a much smaller lead.
"No," Clinton said. "I consider myself someone who's working as hard as I can everyday to earn the support of Iowans, and that's what I'm going to keep doing."
"I'm well aware that no one has voted. No one has caucused. We have a long way to go before that happens and I don't take anything for granted."
In the latest Des Moines Register poll among 399 likely Democratic caucusgoers Clinton was in the lead in the Hawkeye State with 29 points. Former Sen. John Edwards, D-North Carolina, sat at 23 points, and Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois followed closely with 22. The margin of error was plus or minus 4.9 percentage points.
-CNN Iowa Producer Chris Welch
Why is everybody so mad on these message boards?
I am a resident of Upstate NY, and I am still waiting for all the jobs she promised us in 2000. She can't even be counted to show up when we have issues with keeping the Buffalo Bills. The media is eager for whatever reason to annoint her as the nominee. The problem with that is that she has a negative rating approaching 50%. No one can predict what happens with all the primaries boxed so close together to open the primary season. Will it be winner takes all, or will five candidates each have a slice, with ongoing negotiations
Posted By Karen,nj : October 21, 2007 2:34 pm
Karen, ny - you've asked an excellent question that deserves an answer. Here's how I see it:
During the (Bill) Clinton presidency, there were a great many legitimate concerns about underhanded dealings, financial improprieties, abuse of powers, and moral scandal. The President's wife led the defensive counter charge by blaming all of her and her husband's problems on a "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was "out to get them." This tactic was so effective that even when the President disgraced the moral integrity of his office by having a sexual relationship with an intern and then lied about it to Congress and the entire country and was ultimately impeached, most of the members of the Democratic Party were so offended that one of their own was shown to be a putz that they developed a deep, irrational hatred for anything and everyone non-Democrat. When the aftertaste from Clinton's scandal barely prevented the Democratic nominee from winning the White House in 2000, the Republican who was elected was virtually demonized, and whatever he attempted was subject to a level of hatred and divisiveness that the country hadn't seen since the Vietnam War era.
The lesson we can take from this is clear: Hillary Clinton is a divider, not a healer. If the worst should ever come to pass and she is elected President of the United States, we can look forward to at least another decade of the divisions and hatred that have afflicted us for the past ten years. The sad thing is that ANY other Democratic canditate would be a shoo-in, but Hillary will continue to polarize a huge portion of the nation and almost assure the election of whoever is running against her.
Hillary, it's a little too late to learn that arrogance doesn't play in american politics. We don't like coronations here. I thought with your arrogant management of healthcare reform in the 90's would of taught you a lesson. But with the Hsu, chinese dishwasher donations and the Iraqi/Iran votes-it's obivous you don't learn from past failures. Your the flip side of George Bush- once a failure always a failure.
Ahhh, Hillary knows how to buy her votes – she buys the ad space (i.e. news stories about her polling) every other day. Gotta admire her "practices" but haven't we had enough of misleading politicians?
If you think Bush/Cheney is bad, just wait until you get Clinton/Pelosi in charge of the government.
I notice a lot of the suporters of Hillary are from Cal.,Ill., and New York and a few from Florida. These are all states with very large cities. These people seem out of touch with the rest of the country and should no winning these state alone will not get Hillary elected the proof of this is the last two elections. It is right in front of you if you want the scum bag republicans kicked out you will have to support a candidate that can win the primary election and Hillary is simply not electable in a majority of the country there is no way people in the midwest and south will ever vote for Hillary.
May I suggest to anyone interested that they watch a couple of videos. The first one from Geirge Carlin at:
After you're done watching that, would you kindly watch this one from Ron Paul:
And after you're finished, do you still believe that Hilary Clinton is what's best for you, your children and your fellow countrymen and women?
Charles in Orem, Utah : 4:04 pm
Re your critisism of the Clintons
Over $100,000,000 was wasted by Republicans on investigations of the Clintons and nothing was found except that Bill had an inproper consentual relationship with some woman. (like FDR and JFK did). 65% of the American people did not approve of the Impeachment which was a political stunt. Bill left office with a 65% job approval rate. He and the United States were internationally respected. Now, the world is disgusted with the US and its leaders.
There is hope. There are internationally respected Americans who can redeem the nations reputation trashed by the Bush Aministration. They are (1) Bill Clinton for what he did as president and for the work he has done in getting pharmaceutical to poor countries and billions of dollars of aid projects,(2) Al Gore for his(Nobel Prize) Global Warming warning effort,(3) Jimmie Carter for his work on democratic elections and (4)Hillary Clinton ( gave the keynote address on Human Rights to 3000 delegates at a conference in China). Do you know what Muslim nation has erected a statue in Bill Clinton's honor,
Stephen, Naples, Florida – "NOTHING" could be worst that bush/cheney! They have bankrupted our country, launched a war in Iraq that has allowed the terrorists to get away in Afghanistan, depleted our military to raise oil prices for themselves, they might even launch WW3 with their foolish "pea brains". ANY Democrat will be better than any Republican since the republican party went lockstep along with the "fools" currently in the White House. The GOP needs to take a break from "ruling" and get a grip on their beliefs. The GOP needs to get back to supporting the individuals rights against big government, supporting fiscal responsibility instead of major pork barrel red state giveaways. A vote for Hillary will allow the USA to regain a path toward the future that can be embraced by the vast majority of Americans. The GOP has catered to the rich and foolish extreme right wing for too long, they have lost their way! VOTE DEMOCRAT!
To Charles in Orem, Utah
Charles, you have twisted the facts and your pitiful attempt to claim that the current administration has been attacked by hateful people is laughable. President Clinton and his wife were respected and loved by a majority of Americans and still are today.
The current president has, along with his brother and his fathers court appointments, stolen the 2000 election and damaged our democracy for a long time to come.
As far as honesty, what happened to the Bush who in the televised debates against Gore stated "that we won't do "Nation Building" (IRAQ – almost 2 Trillion dollars waisted if we left today) That Social Security and the economy would be better with his "tax cuts" (the rich are better, the middle class is underemployed if they have a job and Social Security has not been addressed in any realistic way)
So, we have had the Clinton's with prosperity and good will around the world contrasted with Bush and the rich get richer, the poor suffer and die, the world is in peril with polluted oceans, melting ice caps, health care diminishing every day for the middle class. Hm, hard choice on what party to vote for in 2008! VOTE DEMOCRAT on every ticket.
I'm sorry your comment was cut off just as you were about to mention - what was it, something about a statue of Bill Clinton being erected by a Muslim country? Not surprising. You also alluded to the "international respect" Bill Clinton enjoyed at the time he exited the Presidency, in spite of the nasty things he was accused of and managed to squelch and keep hidden (or not). Somehow though, I doubt if the seeds for 9-11 were sown only after he left office. I seem to recall quite a few instances of attacks being made on the US during his watch, none of which prompted him to take the sort of steps that could have prevented 9-11. Say what you will about the evil Repubs, but at least we haven't had another domestic attack on US soil since 2001. The current administration is nothing to write home about, but it's simplistic to want to blame all our ills on them.
Personally, I find I could favor two of the Democratic candidates currently running, as well as two of the Republicans. They are similar in some aspects, and vastly different in others, but I dearly hope I will have the chance to have to choose between them come the general election. That way, if the person I don't select should win, I will at least be able to put my support behind the winner and wish them well and pray the country can indeed "move on."
Hillary is a divider, not a healer.
Charles, Utah, Nobody on earth is worse than Bush-Cheney, if you disagree with it, you are wrong, so your presumption is incorrect. My conviction: Hillary will be the greatest president and lead our Country wisely more than any man in this Country. You will owe Hillary supporters apology eventually.
To Charles in Orem, Once again another GOP person with a poor memory or, don't you remember the GOP controlled Senate going against President Clinton for every move outside our borders. Perhaps you don't remember candidate bush talking about the need to focus on America and not the rest of the world. And if the seeds of 911 germinated anywhere it was with the 1st bush and his friends in Saudi Arabia.
Charles, Utah, Nobody is worse than Bush-Cheney on earth, if you disagree with it, you are wrong so your presumtion is incorrect. My conviction:
Hillary will lead our Country wisely and will be the greatest President in our History. You will owe Hillary and her supporters apology eventually.
Paranoia strikes deep..into your life it will creep..it starts when your always afraid..step out a line the men come and take you away..you got to stop hey..what's that sound
Yes people, just keep piling on the hate. Look to a Hillary Presidency as a chance to "get even" for all your perceived injustices.
Don't care for Bush? Well, don't feel like the Lone Ranger. But please don't keep insisting the Clintons are the solution. They're half of the problem.
Meanwhile, your own words demonstrate my point precisely: Hillary is a divider, not a healer. Would any sane or sensible person want to keep THAT sort of pain going when we do have reasonable alternatives?
There's battle lines being drawn
And nobody's right, if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
'Re getting so much resistance from behind
What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singin' songs, and carryin' signs
Mostly say "hooray for our side"
Some things never change...
Hey Rex, I am a Democrat and I agree with many of things Ron Paul says. How can his website say this, however:
"Americans are justifiably concerned over the government’s escalating intervention into their freedom to choose what they eat and how they take care of their health." AND "I have been the national leader in preserving Health Freedom."
Yet, he has voted on several occasions to interfere with a woman's right to make her own healthcare decisions. I am strongly against abortion, yet I don't believe it is the government's responsibility enforce it. Do you know how much that would cost? Also, banning abortion will NOT decrease the amount of abortions there are! The only way abortions can be decreased is through knowledge and (gasp) birth control. I don't understand why this country is so scared to discuss sex education.
That black presidential candidate Barrack Obama could be a mere 7 points behind the leading white presidential candidate Hillary Clinton should tell everyone that Clinton is not all that well liked or supported. Worse, when we consider another white presidential candidate John Edwards is 6 points behing Clinton and one point ahead of Obama, it actually emphasizes the fact that Hillary is not all that big in the race. Given who she has been she should have been enjoying double digit leads, but something's wrong with her.
To Charles in Orem – sounds like you have the "Rove Sound Bite" – it's GOP policy to divide and conquer – pit the weak against each other and let the "elite" prosper. The only people Hillary will "divide" the the greedy, the corrupt and the demigods – YES YOU GOP FOLKS. Charles, we have had enough of the rove sound bites, VOTE DEMOCRAT and bring our country back from the most divisive and corrupt administration in the history of America. No GOP candidate will do anything different than the current administration. All promise, no compassion! Every GOP candidate has expressed their support for more of the same "bush league" policy. Bush was supposed to be the "great uniter" the super "decider" and what did we get, GOP greed, rich got richer, the Christians got church support form the treasury, the red states got pork barrel spending, defense contracts went to GOP districts.
Kyu Reisch from Radcliff, KY.
Are you a HRC intern? It seems like you are so blinded in HRC support that you leave no room for objective criticism. Who needs to apologize to HRC. If she wins, it is people like you, her supporters who will have to apologize for misleading the american people by perfecting the art of concealing her serious weaknesses such as:
–the Hsu saga
–the chinese immigrant donors saga
-the vote to authorize war in Iraq
–Declaring the Iran revolutionary Guards a terrorist organization
-Copying the health care plan for Edwards
–Copying idea of not setting limits on social security taxes
–evading genuine questions by claiming the questioner has been sent by someone
-refusing to remove her name from the MI ballot like other democratic party candidates
harles in Orem, Utah
THere is an 8' statue of Clinton in Kosovo. The Serbs drove 1,000,000 Muslim Kosovars (Kosovarians in Bush grade 6 language) from their homes. Under Clinton, with a NATO (mostly US) forces, led by General Weseley Clarke, who I hope will become VP, the Muslim Kosovars were returned to their homes. No US forces died in this operation.
In contrast, millions of innocent Iraquis have been driven from their homes as a result of Bush's war to increase the price of oil.
A plot to Hijack and crash 10 US ailiners was discovered in the Phillipines. Several months before 911, there was a warning predicting a major terrorist operation. Although warned, neither Bush or Security advisor Rice, did anything. They ignored Richard Clarke's warnings.
Had Clinton still been president, with Clinton's brilliant mind (IQ 169), i think it is likely that he would have remembered the airliner plan, linked it to the warning, and done something. You will remember, FBI Director Free, The Republican idiot, who was great with a stained dress, but who did nothing when the an FBI agent reported Massaoui (now convicted of terrorism) was taking flying lessons.
3000 people died on 911 due the incompetance of Bush, Rice, Free. 1000s more have died since due his incompetance and perfidy.
Some posters were kind enough to share their rosey, Utopian vision of America's future should Hillary Clinton be elected. Thank you for that. Here's mine - any of you old enough to remember 1964?
Like LBJ, Hillary easily carries the election as the "centrist, social progressive" who has all sorts of plans and promises she hopes to accomplish. But she inherits an armed overseas conflict that she supported. Savvy enough to realize that there are legitimate US interests involved, she doesn't immediately end our military involvement (as the liberal base who helped elect her would prefer), but wants to appear firm and strong enough to satisfy her centrist base. Another attack is eventually made on the United States (because our enemies couldn't care less who is in office; any incumbant is the "Great Satan", after all), and she feels compelled to respond in force, drawing the armed forces and foreign policy deeper and deeper into an ever escalating conflict that consumes young American lives and divides the country. The draft is reinstated (has to be), and minorities will grow angry that their numbers are disproportionately represented while affluent white collage students (like she and her husband used to be) manage to obtain exemptions. By the time she manages to leave office she has become reviled by the left, is still hated by the right, and has disappointed and disgusted the center.
LBJ was as political a shenanigan-puller as they come, but he was actually a pretty good President, having always thought of his most valuable contribution being the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, but his "War on Poverty" was no more successful than than the one in Vietnam. Hardly anyone from that generation thinks kindly of him today, or recalls the day when he finally died.
Will this be Hillary Clinton's eventual legacy? Time will tell.
Rex, I thoroughly enjoyed the Carlin video. Had a couple beefs with the Ron Paul video, though. 1) The clown that got Tazed – a) that was at a John Kerry event, and he is a Democrat. b) The guy was out of line, fought the cops and deserved it. There was no repression of free speech there, as the video makes it out. 2) The video attributed a quote to Ronald Regan that is not his. That quote, "Peace is not the absence of war..." is a zen maxim, and has been used by the Dali Lama. Sorry, Ron was a great guy, but that one is not his.
Other than that, it was a good video, and I like what I hear from Ron Paul.