People can say that Romney or Huckabee or whoever they want won the straw poll but the fact remains, Ron Paul is the true conservative running for office. How can Huckabee be a Christian if he supports the Iraq war? It is an unjust and unconstitutional war and has resulted in the deaths of many innocent people. That does not seem Christian like to me.

Hippety Hop—Flip Flop!! Another pro-war candidate

To ronnie – knoxville ,tn

I am sorry to be the wet rag here but at least when you quote from the bible, do it right. In every version of the bible – the Commandment is Thou Shalt not kill. The bible does not make any distinction between the two. Agin, I am sorry to challenge you misinformed assertions.

How about the Mountain Meadows Massacre? No doubt, the Mormons are a scary cult. I do not want one for President.

JGM, as Ryan just stated, Larry Craig is a Methodist, not a Mormon. There are creeps in every religion.

And John, why is it that those who fear a religion claim we are all brainwashed? I'm not a Mormon, but the argument that relgious people are brainwashed is ridiculous. Mormons are a part of society who interact with people of all races, religions and beliefs daily, and they are not in seclusion where they are not exposed to other ideas. Saying relgious people are brainwashed is no different than saying anyone is else is brainwashed because they have parents, teachers, etc. who instill beliefs in them.

ronnie – knoxville ,tn

Hey Ronnnie

Re-read my post. It's an unjust war in Iraq. Apparently you never got the memo. No WMD, remember? If it was necessary and with the bible's blessing, I'm sure America wouldn't be so divided. That's the reason why your buddy Bush should of taken it to the Congress first, so we were all on board. Twisting justification from excerpts won't replace that aching feeling in your gut that this was about getting the oil.

The fight against "evil" was supposed to be in Afghanistan. I agree with that one. The other one was against a country that happened to be sitting on a ton of oil.

And one more thing, I got a hunch Jesus would frown on waterboarding too.

Now you have the memo.

Just for the record JGM, Larry Craig is not a Mormon, he's a Methodist. Check his wikipedia entry. And your comment "Mormons have always spoken from both sides of their mouths" is just plain bigoted stereotyping. There are good and bad among Mormons just like any other group.

And to John from America, in response to your criticism of changing polygamy revelations I ask, are you Christian? Because if you are then you believe that God at one time commanded his people to abstain from eating pork, to worship on Saturday, to offer animal sacrifices, etc etc, and then he reversed all that a few thousand years in. "Strange that God got that mixed up?" Of course not. Different commandments for people in different times under different circumstances. Of course many of us, myself included, don't believe that polygamy was divinely inspired in the first place.

And you should be aware that Mormons are strongly encouraged to find out for themselves whether the doctrines of the church, and the individual admonishments of church leaders are true. We are told to pray about the words of the prophets, compare them to our own understanding of the gospel, and follow what we feel is right. Church leaders are considered inspired but they are always recognized to be fallible human beings. They have certainly been wrong in the past and will likely be wrong in the future. You may have met some Mormons who choose to follow their church leaders without much questioning (just as many mainstream Christians follow their ministers unquestioningly) but many of us are just as self-reflective, skeptical, and independent as the next person.

And your question at the end is just fear mongering. The church's revelations are always about either how church members should conduct their personal lives, or about how the church deals with church members. A principle tenant of our religion (its one of our "Articles of Faith") is that we should not interfere with anyone else's right to practice their beliefs (or non-belief) as long as they don't conflict with the laws of the land. And our scriptures (its in the Doctrine and Covenants) clearly state that church and state should be separate, and it specifically says that no religious beliefs should be encouraged or promoted by the state above any other. So in short, Romney would never face a situation where a revelation from Mormon church leaders would alter how he performed his duties as president.

So don't let your limited understanding of Mormonism dissuade you from voting for Romney. Let his flip-flopping, lack of foreign policy experience, and blatant republicanism dissuade you.

OK people. It's almost time to stop denying that HILLARY will BE THE NOMINEE for the DEMS. Either GUILIANI or MITT ROMNEY will BE THE NOMINEE FOR THE Repubicans. RON PAUL will RUN INDEPENDENTLY. MARK THESE WORDS.

'Tracey Fridley MN' –

haven't you been paying attention in school? The Bible says we must fight evil. The Bible teaches us there is time for war, a time for peace. We cannot let good men sit by and allow evil acts to take place; in other words good men must destroy evil.

Thou shalt not commit murder is a commandment. That's talking about murdering someone who is innocent. It's not the same as killing someone who is evil, or killing enemies of our country.

Got it?

That has already proven to be false information. The on site polls were closed after Romney's speech and open the next day after Huckabee's speech.

There were over 2500 attendees at the conference and the majority of them voted onine.

The folks urging online votes was the community "Evangelicals for Mitt" not Romney's own campaign. Romney has over an 80,000 donor base, he would have blitzed it if he had tried.

Most important is the following quote. Huckabee worked the online scene very hard.

The President of Family Research Council Tony Perkins said this:

"I know a lot of people are critical of Governor Romney … but Governor Huckabee worked very aggressively online to get votes as well.”Perkins said: “There’s going to be some natural disparity because when people hear someone, they’re going to be motivated. "

Congrats Mitt Romney !!

Posted By catherine Saint Paul MN: "Stay out of my womb!!!!"

Are you talking to the abortion doctor or the guy you're sleeping with?

Brian and Matt – what you two actually believe in is what your Mormon church leaders tell you and only that! I've know a lot of very good Mormon people but, they all have been brainwashed to some degree. I watched one of the Mormon church leaders on the news this week that said it was Romney's duty as a Mormon to follow all church's revelations including one's recieved any day now by your church leaders. Let's see – one of your leaders said having many wives was a revelation from god, then another got another message? Strange that god got that mixed up?

What will future messages received by "mortal men" from god dictate Romney to do as President of our country? Will he follow gods revelations to the Mormon's or the United States Constitution? Ask him and see how these other Christians like his answer.

Mormons have always spoken from both sides of their mouths. It's lying, but don't tell them that, if forced to admit it they won't make it to Celestial bliss.
Ask Idaho Larry…

Interesting results and data break down. Something must have gone wrong. Reaction from the audience sounded much different than the results

With 30 votes apart did the Religious Conservative choose Romney vs. Huckabee based on electability or Religious Values?
—-> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=762

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The Mainstream Media and other Republicans ignore Ron Paul's supporters at their peril. We are the best hope for saving the Republican Party from certain defeat and perhaps permanent irrelevance.

Reason enough to dispise the man. With people like that on your side, who needs nazi's?

Catherine — stay out of the sack or use birth control and we wouldn't have to 'get into your womb' to protect an innocent life!

You want to talk about skewing the vote?

The Value Voters on site polls were closed after Romney's speech and opened back up after Huckabee's speech the next day.

That means that those who came to listen and support Huckabee were able to vote "on site" and those who came to listen and support Romney were not able to.

So many of you complain that Romney won because of email blasts. If Huckabee can't get his act together enough to compete through a TOTALLY FREE medium, then he $u@ks as a candidate and cannot compete.

Romney is a good man with the right philosophy and skills, even if you disagree with his religion. Remember, Reagan was basically non-religous.

DID ANY ONE NOTICE THIS MEETING IS CALLED "VALUE VOTERS SUMMIT", OR VALUE VO-MIT.

"CHI" huahua..(sp. err.) I am a liberal which means I am not narrow minded. I am happy to be able to hear everyone out, but in the end I will decide for myself. If I disagree with you I will tell you so, if I agree I will go along with you. It makes life very simple.

Whoops sorry, HUCKABEE applied the religious test, not Romney.

You guys who keep trying to stress the votes "on site" are trying to imply that attendees all voted manually. That is false information. There were many attendees that voted online.

"The number of people who voted in person at the conference was far less than the number who voted online or by mail. Huckabee was the clear winner of the in person votes with 488 of the 952 votes. Romney received only 99 in person, on site votes."

Xuan Thai – you got that wrong! There were thousands at the event, and long voting lines. Many of the attendees voted online with their laptops or through the online service at their hotel.

No one expected Romney to win the straw poll, that is Huckabee's home turf, and you know what he said in his speech?

That not voting for him was voting against "The Faith". He applied the religious test, and that's going to backfire on him and further alienate him from the fiscal conservatives, the defense conservatives and the less religious moderates….

Huckabee is the most popular among the religious conservative crowd, but not electable because of his lack of appeal EVERYWHERE else.

A person's religion has little to do with what kind of person he or she is. There are Mormons as good as the best Catholics and Protestants. There are Mormons as bad as the worst Catholics and Protestants. The best athieist are as good as the best of the faithful, and the worst atheists (think Stalin) are as bad as anybody. Mostly, we inherit our religions without much thought, accepting the beliefs as natural. This is why Catholic parents have mostly Catholic children, Sunni parents have mostly Sunni children, and most people in Dallas support the Dallas Cowboys.

Most of the disputes among the faithful – regardless of the name of the faith – are really obscure theological teapot tempests over the names of the various deities, the books that are to be considered holy, and the correct chants to be said in religious ceremonies: spats over theological etiquette and nothing real. The religions of the Middle East (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are particularly fixated on the issues of female virginity, female sexuality, pregnancy, and female dress, which has caused humanity – particularly female humanity – untold grief over the millenia.

In terms of how the next President will affect our culture and our lives, the goal of Conservatism is to increase the prosperity of the rich – especially the very rich – and the increased indifference to the welfare of the middle class. The poor are of absolutely no consequence to the Conservative mentality.

So, it doesn't really matter what church a Conservative attends. The church that a Conservative attends does not affect his (there are no female Conservative Presidential candidates) beliefs. To the Conservative, it is all about income: more for us and less for the rest of you.

This is rich. From the kneejerk liberal 4 years ago to the darling of the right. A chauhuahua could herd these sheep.

Romney is a liar … and a thief!

I don't understand why everyone hates mormons! This is ridiculous. I am LDS. We believe in Jesus Christ. We believe he lived and died for our sins. He bled out of every pore and died on the cross for us. We do not practice polygamy! If somesone claims to be mormon and does. They aren't. We believe in preserving life. Abortion is wrong. We believe in marriage only between A MAN AND A WOMAN. We beleive in The Holy Bible and it to be true. How are we not Christians? The name of our church is The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. Jesus Christ is at the center of our thoughts and is who we worship. We do not worship gods upon gods as others think. We do everything that normal christians do. I do not bash other religions and ask others to do their research before they do bashing themselves. We believe all men are free to worship where or how they may. Please provide us the same respect. We are Christians.

These "Values Voters" are the same idiots that gave us Bush! UH!I am a Christian and Jesus is my savior but I believe in the seperation of Church and State. Religion and politics are a lethal combination!! I will vote Democrat!

Would anyone buy a used care from this man?

What a farce!

If you think Mormon's are freaks because of something you read, you probably don't have the right source. Anyone can say anything about anyone, go to the source if you want to learn about something. I'm not going to ask a jew what the catholics believe, I'm going to ask a Catholic! Do the same about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and stop your bigotry! learn from http://www.mormon.org

Contrary to what Mitt would have us believe, winning a conservative straw poll means less than nothing to most voters today.

Bush and his conservative cronies have screwed this country up so bad it isn't funny. So why in the world would we want another conservative in the White House?

Being a liberal is nothing to crow about either.

Get with the program, moderates are the only hope we have left.

Ron Paul appears to be a fine person, but the reality is that the voters are the problem for the Republican Party. They are too fragmented because belief-based policies are by definition, not objective. Policies formed by belief rather than objective reality can never, never form the basis for general harmony within society without also sacrificing basic freedoms. We'll have a revolution before that happens.

Straw polls mean squat! What counts is real live votes in the Primaries around the country.

Ron Paul gets my vote! Go watch the whole thing on You tube and really listen to all the candidates and how much they truly care about what affects all Americans. Ron Paul is dialed in right to the pulse of what is going on in America.

THIS IS GREAT!
The ultra-self rightous neocons are too fragmented and not paying attention to the real issues that most people really care about.
Hillary will surely win.

wow a whole 5,775 votes? Is this supposed to be the pulse of America?

When Ron Paul wins an online poll, media brushes it off as the actions of few eccentric Ron Paul supporters who have nothing better to do but to click the keyboards of their computers or push the buttons on their cell phones. However, Romney makes news.

I am waiting for Tsunami Tuesday!

I got real news. Obama raised $2.1 million over the last three days. He can and will win the white house.

The fact that somebody who is running to be the most powerful person in the world has to cater to this bunch of simple-minded, prejudiced fools just to win their own party's nomination shows the poor state of our country!

These people always think they know what's best for you and wish to enforce it upon you.

>>>Tancredo got more than Guiliani???!!!

Good catch YC!

Just goes to show that when it comes to extremism, Rudy-style fascism is not enough for these crazies. Quite a statement. They really are the American Taliban.

they deserve each other

How can pro-life for here and being for an unjust war there, which kills thousands be capatable?

Is this really a Christian crowd?

Seems phony to me.

Come on, Xuan. What's with the totally misleading headline? Romney and Huckabee both had 27 percent of the total — and among those whose votes were actually in play (rather than being recruited through email blasts to supporters by Romney), Huckabee was the resounding winner.

What "Your Conscience" fails to realize is that the Christians who would attend such an event as this wouldn't support Mr. Guiliani in the first place. It is not the Christian base, but the MSM, that is pole-vaulting Guiliani to his standing. I would never in Good Conscience be able to vote for RG.
That said, this is the 2nd Christian based event where Huckabee won with a CLEAR majority. Granted, Romney didn't bother to attend that one (he must have thought it irrelevant) but then he probably faired as well in the polling of the one he didn't attend as the one he DID attend.

Praise God! for once again revealing to us His choice for President. I can't even worry anymore, because I see God's hand working so mightily in this election. It's just so exciting to watch Him work!!!

This confirms that the Religious Right has been coalescing around Romney, making him the conservative support!

Did the straw poll voters know that Huckabee is just another open border Republican?

Congrats to Huckabee for getting 51% of the on-site vote! Romney came in second with 10%. Also Romney received 0 votes at the first Values Voter debate held in Fort Lauderdale a few weeks back. And that was on-site voting only. So who's the really winner here? I think it's pretty clear…

Huckabee '08!

What do fanatical christian fundamentalists and old useless buildings have in common? Their implosion is always entertaining.

Romney is a worst flip flopper than John Kerry. Huckabee is the man and he clearly would make a better nominee than anyone of those other clowns.

Good find, Randy! I was surprised when I read the headline that Mitt won when Rudy received so much applause for his dig at Romney's flip-flopping. Clearly the on-site poll is the only one that matters. If the online polls had any real truth, Ron Paul would be the nominee and we all know that won't happen.

Props to Rudy too for finishing fifth. He was supposed to come in last according to all the pundits. Go Rudy!

Tancredo got more than Guiliani???!!!

Bwhahahahahahaaa

These same Christian Taliban were the dolts who overwhelmingly voted for George 'Historical Failure' Bush.

These irrelevent toads do not pause to realize it is THEIR OWN judgement that is retarded. These Christian Taliban are soooooooooooooooooo irrelevent.

You see there is a price to pay when you make a deal with the devil. Do not go away mad Dominionists……just go away.

I read some about those Mormons and I don't know a single person who would want a man like that leading our country. People have to pull away from all these religious freaks and elect a leader who will not mix religion with politics. We do not need to be told about family values or that some people are pro-life. We can all think for ourselves and decide for ourselves.

opps wrong ticker…sorry

A mormon America? Now, that's scary! Our finding fathers would be outrage, embarrassed and disappointed.

Stay out of my womb!!!!

CNN with the nice spin headline. Romney is pathetic. without his money he's nothing. The leaders that are now jumping on his bandwagon, well now we know what they're all about.

Mike Huckabee was the clear winner!!!

Romney could only muster 1595 online votes given his large (and expensive) campaigning? He really needs to try another angle. The on-site poll proves that Huckabee is the true conservative of the pack.

Huckabee was the true winner of this poll.

Overall Straw Poll Results
Mitt Romney 1595 27.62%
Mike Huckabee 1565 27.15%
Ron Paul 865 14.98%
Fred Thompson 564 9.77%
http://www.frcaction.org/

Although Romney won the overall (online and onsite) straw poll by less than half a percentage point (30 votes), it must be taken into consideration that Romney sent email blasts to his supporters urging them to vote in the online straw poll. Romney got 1496 votes online through official campaign pleas, while Huckabee got 1077 online votes through the enthusiastic grassroots efforts of his supporters and bloggers.

Take the onsite straw poll results, where Huckabee won by a margin of over 40%:

Onsite Straw Poll Results
Mike Huckabee 488 51.26%
Mitt Romney 99 10.40%
Fred Thompson 77 8.09%
http://www.frcaction.org/

The results of this straw poll is certainly bad news for Fred Thompson. Ron Paul supporters also flooded the online voting, helping Paul into 3rd place in the overall poll, although he got less than 3% of the onsite vote, placing 9th, behind all the other Republican candidates (including Brownback)!

Mike Huckabee deserves more credit for winning by a landslide among the conservatives who acutally got to hear him speak today.

Is the fact that Romney won…although barely…going to be skewed by supporters of Romney? Everyone looking over the fact that out of the people who actually attended this event and heard every speaker, voted 50+ % in favor of Huckabee

Romney only received 99 votes from the Washington Briefing itself. He clearly bought this straw poll by sending massive email blasts to his lists to have them vote online. Mike Huckabee is the real winner. Tied with Romney overall. 51% of the on-location votes.

Straw polls mean absolutely NOTHING. It is just the same as a straw boss.

So, of those who actually were there, 51% voted for Mike Huckabee, five times as much as any other candidate.

That's the onsite + online poll, hence skewed by the RP crowd…. Actual numbers onsite:

Onsite Straw Poll Results

Mike Huckabee 488 51.26%
Mitt Romney 99 10.40%
Fred Thompson 77 8.09%
Tom Tancredo 65 6.83%%
Rudy Giuliani 60 6.30%
Duncan Hunter 54 5.67%
John McCain 30 3.15%
Sam Brownback 26 2.73%
Ron Paul 25 2.63%
Undecided 11 1.16%
Not Voting 7 0.74%
Barack Obama 5 0.53%
Chris Dodd 2 0.21%
DennisKucinich 2 0.11%
Joe Biden 1 0.11%
Total 952 100%