I am sorry to be the wet rag here but at least when you quote from the bible, do it right. In every version of the bible – the Commandment is Thou Shalt not kill. The bible does not make any distinction between the two. Agin, I am sorry to challenge you misinformed assertions.

And John, why is it that those who fear a religion claim we are all brainwashed? I'm not a Mormon, but the argument that relgious people are brainwashed is ridiculous. Mormons are a part of society who interact with people of all races, religions and beliefs daily, and they are not in seclusion where they are not exposed to other ideas. Saying relgious people are brainwashed is no different than saying anyone is else is brainwashed because they have parents, teachers, etc. who instill beliefs in them.

Hey Ronnnie

Re-read my post. It's an unjust war in Iraq. Apparently you never got the memo. No WMD, remember? If it was necessary and with the bible's blessing, I'm sure America wouldn't be so divided. That's the reason why your buddy Bush should of taken it to the Congress first, so we were all on board. Twisting justification from excerpts won't replace that aching feeling in your gut that this was about getting the oil.

The fight against "evil" was supposed to be in Afghanistan. I agree with that one. The other one was against a country that happened to be sitting on a ton of oil.

And one more thing, I got a hunch Jesus would frown on waterboarding too.

Now you have the memo.

And to John from America, in response to your criticism of changing polygamy revelations I ask, are you Christian? Because if you are then you believe that God at one time commanded his people to abstain from eating pork, to worship on Saturday, to offer animal sacrifices, etc etc, and then he reversed all that a few thousand years in. "Strange that God got that mixed up?" Of course not. Different commandments for people in different times under different circumstances. Of course many of us, myself included, don't believe that polygamy was divinely inspired in the first place.

And you should be aware that Mormons are strongly encouraged to find out for themselves whether the doctrines of the church, and the individual admonishments of church leaders are true. We are told to pray about the words of the prophets, compare them to our own understanding of the gospel, and follow what we feel is right. Church leaders are considered inspired but they are always recognized to be fallible human beings. They have certainly been wrong in the past and will likely be wrong in the future. You may have met some Mormons who choose to follow their church leaders without much questioning (just as many mainstream Christians follow their ministers unquestioningly) but many of us are just as self-reflective, skeptical, and independent as the next person.

And your question at the end is just fear mongering. The church's revelations are always about either how church members should conduct their personal lives, or about how the church deals with church members. A principle tenant of our religion (its one of our "Articles of Faith") is that we should not interfere with anyone else's right to practice their beliefs (or non-belief) as long as they don't conflict with the laws of the land. And our scriptures (its in the Doctrine and Covenants) clearly state that church and state should be separate, and it specifically says that no religious beliefs should be encouraged or promoted by the state above any other. So in short, Romney would never face a situation where a revelation from Mormon church leaders would alter how he performed his duties as president.

So don't let your limited understanding of Mormonism dissuade you from voting for Romney. Let his flip-flopping, lack of foreign policy experience, and blatant republicanism dissuade you.

haven't you been paying attention in school? The Bible says we must fight evil. The Bible teaches us there is time for war, a time for peace. We cannot let good men sit by and allow evil acts to take place; in other words good men must destroy evil.

Thou shalt not commit murder is a commandment. That's talking about murdering someone who is innocent. It's not the same as killing someone who is evil, or killing enemies of our country.

Got it?

There were over 2500 attendees at the conference and the majority of them voted onine.

The folks urging online votes was the community "Evangelicals for Mitt" not Romney's own campaign. Romney has over an 80,000 donor base, he would have blitzed it if he had tried.

Most important is the following quote. Huckabee worked the online scene very hard.

The President of Family Research Council Tony Perkins said this:

"I know a lot of people are critical of Governor Romney … but Governor Huckabee worked very aggressively online to get votes as well.”Perkins said: “There’s going to be some natural disparity because when people hear someone, they’re going to be motivated. "

Are you talking to the abortion doctor or the guy you're sleeping with?

What will future messages received by "mortal men" from god dictate Romney to do as President of our country? Will he follow gods revelations to the Mormon's or the United States Constitution? Ask him and see how these other Christians like his answer.

With 30 votes apart did the Religious Conservative choose Romney vs. Huckabee based on electability or Religious Values?
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The Value Voters on site polls were closed after Romney's speech and opened back up after Huckabee's speech the next day.

That means that those who came to listen and support Huckabee were able to vote "on site" and those who came to listen and support Romney were not able to.

Romney is a good man with the right philosophy and skills, even if you disagree with his religion. Remember, Reagan was basically non-religous.

You guys who keep trying to stress the votes "on site" are trying to imply that attendees all voted manually. That is false information. There were many attendees that voted online.

Xuan Thai – you got that wrong! There were thousands at the event, and long voting lines. Many of the attendees voted online with their laptops or through the online service at their hotel.

No one expected Romney to win the straw poll, that is Huckabee's home turf, and you know what he said in his speech?

That not voting for him was voting against "The Faith". He applied the religious test, and that's going to backfire on him and further alienate him from the fiscal conservatives, the defense conservatives and the less religious moderates....

Huckabee is the most popular among the religious conservative crowd, but not electable because of his lack of appeal EVERYWHERE else.

Most of the disputes among the faithful – regardless of the name of the faith – are really obscure theological teapot tempests over the names of the various deities, the books that are to be considered holy, and the correct chants to be said in religious ceremonies: spats over theological etiquette and nothing real. The religions of the Middle East (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) are particularly fixated on the issues of female virginity, female sexuality, pregnancy, and female dress, which has caused humanity – particularly female humanity – untold grief over the millenia.

In terms of how the next President will affect our culture and our lives, the goal of Conservatism is to increase the prosperity of the rich – especially the very rich – and the increased indifference to the welfare of the middle class. The poor are of absolutely no consequence to the Conservative mentality.

So, it doesn't really matter what church a Conservative attends. The church that a Conservative attends does not affect his (there are no female Conservative Presidential candidates) beliefs. To the Conservative, it is all about income: more for us and less for the rest of you.

Bush and his conservative cronies have screwed this country up so bad it isn't funny. So why in the world would we want another conservative in the White House?

Being a liberal is nothing to crow about either.

Get with the program, moderates are the only hope we have left.

I am waiting for Tsunami Tuesday!

These people always think they know what's best for you and wish to enforce it upon you.

Good catch YC!

Just goes to show that when it comes to extremism, Rudy-style fascism is not enough for these crazies. Quite a statement. They really are the American Taliban.

Is this really a Christian crowd?

Seems phony to me.

Praise God! for once again revealing to us His choice for President. I can't even worry anymore, because I see God's hand working so mightily in this election. It's just so exciting to watch Him work!!!

Huckabee '08!