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Bill Clinton was never impeached, did anyone ever take his place? NO !! Don't make false accusations.

Posted By Karen,nj : October 22, 2007 4:50 pm

Bill Clinton was impeached by the house on Dec 19, 1998. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton . Stating otherwise is an outright Lie.

Diane do you realize that we were attacked on 9/11 because we ARE a Christian nation? When we have fanatics out to kill us because of our Christian beliefs, we have to defend ourselves. By the way, if you look at the numbers, the number of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan as compared to the number of homicides in America for the same time frame is less than 10%. Maybe we should pull out of America?
Posted By Ken, Memphis, TN : October 22, 2007 10:37 am

Ken, Pleeeze, you think we were attacked because we are a Christian nation? That's called propaganda. I think it's far more likely that they hate us because we're constantly meddling in their countries, throwing our American presence around and disrespecting their culture. Why are we always doing this? Because we want to have control over the region, because we need oil. period. Why do you think we have the largest embassy in the world in Iraq, because we were going to bring them Democracy and leave? Why didn't we take the billions spent in Iraq and develop alternatives to oil? Because people in power are making lots and lots of money on that oil. But if we'd develop alternatives, we wouldn't be sending all our oil money to the middle east and they'd be back in the stone age again because they have few other natural resources, and they wouldn't have the power or incentives to bother with us.

Ellis Wyatt, Los Angeles, CA

Have you ever stopped to think why people hate the U.S in the first place? I don't see Al Qaeda attacking Norway. Maybe because they do not try to strong arm the rest of the world. Your socialist theory is absurd and your criticism of Paul shows you are scared that your Neo-Con or Marxist candidate will lose. I choose to elect you as village idiot in '08. Congrats.

What's that nonsense I hear that Republican candidates are afraid of Hillary Clinton, Q. Christian Atlanta GA and SD, NY, NY?

In fact, and contrary to both of your comments and speculations of some on this board, GOPers are using an excellent strategy by identifying strengths and weaknesses within their party lines (who is most capable) and opportunities and threats on the outside (that of an opponent). Planning of a good strategy always results in arguments, squabbles, disagreements, and quarrels (this is nothing unusual).

This being said, Hillary is more of an opportunity to the GOP field than the threat. This woman has got too much baggage on her to even be considered a serious threat (a fool can realize that). Hillary, no doubt, will get Dems nomination, and she will, no doubt, lose general election. Simple as that – it'll be fun to watch though.

Romney 08!

I just love watching Republicans throw each other under the bus and eat their young...

can someone say how libs are so interested in Ron Paul? He wants to do away with big government and end the IRS> Is is just that libs want to undermine the real frontrunners, or do they really wish for the same conservativism that Ron Paul is proposing?

I can't figure out why these guys are falling over each other to show their conservative credentials. If they were alive during the American Revolution they would have sided with the King of England and gone to Europe and Canada.
Perhaps we should ship them all out now. They are nuts. Being conservative is not what America is all about.

Eight very expensive suits on that stage last night – too bad they're all empty.

Just look at that picture....I see the Dwarfs, but where is Snow White?!!

Bill Clinton was never impeached, did anyone ever take his place? NO !! Don't make false accusations.

To Tucker of Georgia:
Yes, according to your theory, Hillary carries some negatives. But, all of the republican hopefuls carry much more negatives than her. The biggest negative being "Bush's failed policy". And, mind well even if you don't admit (as all other right wingers) she will have the smartest brain in the white house as her spouse who will straighten all the foreign policy mess this president has created. And, yes you guys will bring up Monica, impeachment and other irrelevant issues. Because, it requires some broad perspective to understand that.

jay, Snellville, GA

Good points, I did not mention him because he won’t get the nomination. The top tier candidates have too much money, he unfortunately can never compete. He would make a great Secretary of State……………………………………………………

Please support Ron Paul the only candidate who can straighten out the mess our country is in.

To Stephan of Florida: Can you explain....
Yes! Bill lied but no one died.
And yes! Bush and his team lied, but 3,800 americans and more than 60,000 Iraqis died for what? OIL, Democracy, WMDs, Saddam's ouster for 9/11, big contracts to Private contractors (RNC donors), Al Quida (never existed in Iraq before), Peace in middle east, personal revenge, permanent american bases in Iraq, or to show american people that we are tough??????? Tell me!
To: Big republican from Kansas:
I don't understand your point as I am not that History smart as you. But, what are you implying? All I know is Collin Powell was pressured to tell a fabricated lie in the UN about biological labs and mushroom cloud so that we could attack a sovereign nation. The congress were tricked and media was silenced. And look at the mess we are in. My point is if your republican hopefuls are still following Bush's policies, we don't need anyone from that breed to lead this country. Hillary is not perfect and brings lots of hatred from you guys, but any of the democrats including Ron Paul is the only sensible choice.

Joe Shepherd – Rock Island

You wrote, "Ron Paul is the only candidate with something new and different to say but the above article makes no mention of him. Why is this?

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Ron Paul was heavily booed after his little rant about the Iraq war (even his 200 minions couldn't cheer/scream loud enough). Ron Paul has no chance of being the Republican Nominee. He has as much chance as Dennis Kucinich for the Democrats.

Most media aren't going to waste their time with fringe candidates.

You should have paid more attention in military school repblican. Firstly you may have learnt the English skills necessary to express yourself properly. Secondly, you may have learnt that in October 1962, the US military imposed a naval blockade on Cuba – a preemptive strike.
I wish I could go on, but frankly your text was so disordered that it is beyond my powers of attention to sort out what it is you are trying to say.

To Stephen, Naples, Florida

A definition of war that has been taught in military course for years states that ,"War is an extension of diplomacy, when diplomacy has failed". War hence is based upon political/diplomatic failure, end of statement. It is the members of our military that must must pay the price when politians fail.

With an administration that refuses to talk with any nation it disagrees with, I would call this politcal not diplomatic.

When the adversary is not a nation state, the action is called a crimmianl matter. On the subject of mass murder ther have been several instances in history where nations have held individuals accountable for mass murder.

As to who as Commander in Chief he is duty bound to Protect, he is duty bound to protect just what is stated in his oath of office, "....to protect and defend the Constiitution of the United States of America from all enemies, foreign and domestic...."

Through out its history the United States has gone out of its way to avoid the initation of hostile actions against an enemy, why, because once you instute first strike you lose what moral high ground you had to begin with.

As far as preemptive strikes go, there is nothing preemptive about them,nor is there a 100 percent certainty on any military action, it becomes a question of who fires the first shot. No soldier fires the first shot, he fires the last shot. The first shot is fired by the attacker who loses standing by attacking first and status is gained by the nation that suffered the attack.

As to learning from history had this administration been around at the time of the Cuban Missle Crisis we would not be having this debate today, we would not be here. Learn from past historical events, the entire course of recorded history going back to the middle ages, you do not make it a matter that might seem religious in nature, in other words you do not have a urban cowboy stand before the media and proclaim a "crusade against terror", you do not interact with a arab nation as you would interact with a western nation, you look back at the history of the region and examine the problems that the Britsh had during their rule and the errors they made to include in the drawing of national boundaries. You look back at the Soviet activitities within Afganistan and what errors they made as we were pumping money and guns in to the hands of our allies the Taliban. At the completion of the Vietnam era we stated that never again would be get involved in nation building, nation building by any other name is still nation building. What we are doing in our unfinshed wars is nation building.

A General by the name of Powell created a doctrine at while serving our nation called the Powell Doctrine which outlined the criteria for placing our military forces in harms way, to paraphase, the mission must be defined and acheivable, adequate forces must be employed to acheive the military objectives that have been defined and upon the completion of these objective the forces come home. Talk about a doctrine that was not followed.

Finally, terrorist activity is something that has been around for years. In the 70-80-90s they were targeting US military personnel overseas, of course this did not gain much uproar from the population, after all we were expendable. The problem was not confined to the mideast, but included Europe, they did not go off the deep end, the individuals invovled were terrorist, they were crimminals, we did not let them rule our lives, we were aware and we did not give they special status, they were crimminal. You will never defeat terrorist, because when you kill one another one comes forward, but you can catch and jail crimminals, crimminals are not self generating. Thank our government for giving crimminals a standing that they never had in the past.

So have a very nice day Stephen.

A Officer, a Repblican and Yada, Yada Yada

The audience was also "fixed"...When asked "how do explain the boos you got", Ron Paul mentioned in the post debate interview that he was only given 200 tickets. He said he could have had 2,000 supporters in there if they would have given him that many tickets.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

What a bunch of losers.

"Why would anyone want to win the title of "Bigget Hypocrit in the US"?"

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Because, Rodney, the individual that wins the Republican nomination will become the next President of the United States. The democrat party has already decided Hillary will be their nominee. Karl Rove, the RNC, and political insiders know the unacceptable flaws Hillary brings (Hsu, China-town, socialist agenda, etc) and will drive Hillary's already historically high negative ratings through the roof.

The only contest we're watching on the Republican side – who wants to be the next President?

Ron Paul is the only candidate with something new and different to say but the above article makes no mention of him. Why is this?

Why would anyone want to win the title of "Bigget Hypocrit in the US"?

Pete from Florida,

This was your list:

National Debt
Lack of government oversight for virtually every program, housing, commerce, health, education, port and border security…………………………………………
Our dead and wounded from to the Iraq war
The infringement to our liberties as Americans
The lack of care or respect for our veterans
The established laws of our country being ignored for political gain

1. National Debt. Ron Paul has never voted for an UNbalanced budget. He was labeled "The Taxpayers best friend" by an independant group.

2. Lack of Government oversight. Ron Paul wants to end the huge gov. agencies that lack this oversight.

3. Our dead or wounded in Iraq. Ron Paul was one of the first to point out the problems with our Veteran Hospitals.

4. Infringement to our Liberties. Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist. Look up the Bill he introduced OCT. 15th to restore the Constitution.

5. Lack of respect for laws for politcal gain. Ron Paul is labeled Dr. No for voting against his party, against pork for his own area, and for fighting anything that seems to go against the intent of the Constitution.

ronpaul2008.com

With three questions thrown his way, you couldn't see all that. Go back through the last 20 years and read his CONSISTANT defense of the Consitution...most of which you can find at his website.

JessicaT, thanks for explaining that Bill Clinton lied to save his family from embarrassment. There was I thinking he lied because he was sufficiently arrogant to believe he could get away with it to save his rotten hide.

Funny how we argue about conservatism or liberalism, what does it really matter?

Here is what matters:

National Debt
Lack of government oversight for virtually every program, housing, commerce, health, education, port and border security…………………………………………
Our dead and wounded from to the Iraq war
The infringement to our liberties as Americans
The lack of care or respect for our veterans
The established laws of our country being ignored for political gain

The people who have run this country, republicans and democrats alike for the last 6+ years have failed our nation. Some of them criminally…………..

It is time to hold them all accountable! It is time to get rid of the enemy from within and it is time to select the best qualified to lead our nation.

I did not see one during that debate!

To "A Republican yada yada", Kansas.

Actually the process by which states interact with other states is called diplomacy, not politics. And war has conventionally been called "diplomacy by other means" and there are a number of instances where wars have been highly successful in the pursuit of foreign policy objectives. Having said that, maybe you can provide the historical references which deal with situations where the adversary is not a nation state but an organisation or other structureand from which the candidates have not learnt. As for preemptive strikes would you ignore any risk of an attack until it became, post -facto, a one hundred per cent certainty, thereby causing significant loss of life to the people who as Commander-in-Chief you were duty bound to protect?

To those who are trying to bring impeachment charges of Bill Clinton, get the facts straight. Bill was brought the impeachment charges by right wingers of personal vengence who want to destroy Bill and Hillary the day he assumed presidency. It was unfortunate that he had to lie to save embarassment for the family. His lie did not hurt national interest or drag this country into a disaster. But, look at your leaders who lied to this country about WMDs which cost us trillios (and counting....), 4000 military lives, 60,000 Iraqis. Also, look at the constitution laws which are trashed, government waste, and on and on. Go and step outside from your right wing shell and ask opinion to anyone about Bush and his administration. Over 90% of the people will undoubtedly will tell you that Clinton was the smartest president US ever had. You right wingers, all you talk about Clinton and Monica, but ignore the bigger mess that Bush has created. Just listen outside of Rush and watch beyond FOX, and you will see where the world is heading? You guys are like forgs trapped in 200 feet well, who know only that well, and nothing beyond that. Hypocrites!

Why are you afraid to include Alan Keyes?

hahah

half of them look like they are about to fall over and die.

Once again, the winner of a GOP debate is.........Hillary Clinton!!!!

Frankly, as a woman it was a complete turn-off to see a bunch of middle aged men ganging up on the one woman running for president. I tend to take offense when I perceive men making denigrating comments at women, regardless of their political ideology. They better tread carefully with all the Hillary bashing lest they offend many women, we are the majority and we do vote.

The candidates would serve their party and their electorate better if they concentrated on their proposals and left Hillary Clinton out of their rhetoric. Also, why do they keep calling her "Hillary" or "Mrs. Clinton"? Its' senator Clinton, boys!!

f you are going to "try" and write, atleast get your facts straight. Bill Clinton was never impeached and as for the rest of that nonsense you are writing, put a sock in your mouth!
Posted By Karen,nj : October 22, 2007 11:20 am

Actually Karen, he was impeached and then found not guilty by the Senate. Impeachment is the bringin of charges which happened in December of 1998. Would you like to super-size that sock?

Just keepin' it real

If you are going to "try" and write, atleast get your facts straight. Bill Clinton was never impeached and as for the rest of that nonsense you are writing, put a sock in your mouth!

Posted By Karen,nj : October 22, 2007 11:20 am

Wow, how funny. I was for sure that Billy was infact impeached. Silly me! The idiocracy of that statement is scary, and this my friends is why Hillary will win the nomination, and the Presidency. The sheep simply cannot think for themselves, because when they do, they come up with things like that. But I sleep well at night knowing that Karen will not get a day pass from the looney bin to vote.

These conservative jokers realy amuse me! They all are saying they are more conservative than the other candidates.What idiots! Like children in a schoolyard arguing who is "bigger" or "stronger" I wouldn't vote for any of them! It seems to me being "conservative" has been proven to be bad for the vast majority of the citizens of this country! The moore "conservative" a candidate is, the worse it gets for the poor and middle class! What a bunch of clowns!

It appears that these right wingers are so afraid of Hillary that they are using all the scary tactics (like Bush scared the hell out of WMDs to drag us into the Iraq mess) for republican voters to unite and fight to bring Guliani or Romney into the race. They talk about Hillary raising the taxes, or Hillary turning this country into socialism, and Hillary making this country bankrupt blah, blah, blah. These chickenhawks don't have to talk about themselves, and don't have their agenda, and their leader Bush has made this country so vulnerable that once the most powerful nation on earth (militarily and financially) has become a laughing stock and the most hated country because of the Republican policies. Whatever respect this country enjoyed with record surplus during Clinton administration we have achieved, has all but gone. If we turn this country again to Republicans who are following the same path as Bush's agenda (dragged war, record deficit, corrupt administration) then same old misery for another 4 or 8 years. Or, else go for Hillary, Obama, or Edwards. Wake up america and don't get fooled by Bush's cronies.

Tom, NYC,
Hillary doesnt need a huge vocab to state her platform. Raise taxes, shell make the rich and the middle class poor by jaking up their taxes. No one who is poor will benefit from her nanny state ideals. Willing to bet more people will sit at home and wait for the gubment to take care of them, because why work when the gubment will take everything and redistribute it to all the victims. Shes got great ideas, $5000 to anyone who can get knocked up, how we gonna pay for it. she isnt anything but a socialist who panders to the victims. Why cant the poor take the proper steps to get out of poverty? Im impoverished, I make less then 30K a year, Im sitting around blaming everyone else for my misfortunes and Im working on improving my situation. Am I the only one who isnt waiting for queen hillary or king obama to take care of me?

You know,I really do not care who is more conservative than the next guy. I have absolutely no intention on voting for the most self proclaimed right wing extremist in America, nor do I intend to caste may ballot for the the most homophobic, anti-abortionist, isolationist, fisical conservative.

My vote shall go to the person that best represents my views and is willing to maintain an open mind. Proclaimig yourself pro-defense, when the only thing that you have done for the military and veterans is insure an annual pay raise is not pro-defense. Proclaiming yourself a person driven by your faith is kind of like proclaiming yourself a compassionate conservative, the lies only go so far, if you were compassionate you would not be conservative and if faith really drove your life you would not be in politics at national level. I shall not be voting for individuals preaching from the stage what they think I want to hear, I will be voting for individuals thats have a past track record that represents my beliefs and priorities, so much for my party of choice. The last Republican I voted for was George HW Bush, he was not a great President but I thought he was competant and at least honest.

Todays canidiates share only two things, they think that the nation desires to have religion thrown in to the forefront. So to each canidate that wears his religion on his sleeve, goodbye, you have lost my vote. And to each canidate that thinks premptive military action saves lives and is good policy, goodbye you chicken hawks, never did learn a thing from history did you. The use of military action is a result of a failed political policy, advocating the use of force is admitting you are a failure.

To those extreme anti-abortionist, I do not beleive in abortion and have no intention of ever getting one, but in the same regard, I rember before legal abortions in this nation, so mind your own bees wax, and stop trying to force your morality on everyone else.

At one time I was considered a right wing extremist by my friends, today I am considered a moderate by some and a liberal by other, but you know what, my views have not changed, but the definitions most definetly have and todays Republican canidates are attempting to place themselves so far to the right, that I am not sure they even qualify as Republicans anymore.

Finally, I thought the debate was to expose the views of the canidates to the public so that a canidate in the Republican party could be choosen to run for President. I sure did not hear much in the line of views other than what appears to be an over occupation with one of the democratic canidates. It sure appears that the vast majority of Republican Canidates are afraid of Clinton, they sure spent alot of time talking about her.

Senator McCain and Mayor Giuliani have the same constituency. If McCain dropped out, Giuliani would lock it up and if Giuliani dropped out, McCain would shoot into either 1st place or a close 2nd. I would rather see McCain however because even though the evangelicals don't like him, he IS pro-life and pro-gun rights and eventually Giuliani who isn't, would suffer with all of the coverage around his social positions. Social conservatives would stay home and that could tip the election to Hillary. I think McCain can get them to take a 2nd look at him and besides, there is no one else in the field of candidates in either party who's led a more admirable life.

gotta laugh at the Hillary fans posting on here like she is the answer. There looks to be NO ONE that can lead this country back that will not adhere to the Constitution. Hillary won't, nor Obama, nor Edwards, nor Rudy, nor Fred, nor Mitt, nor mcCain, etc. Doesn't look good folks. Just a lot of puppets to the interests of the international banks and corporations and the CFR, Bilderbergs, etc.

Richard, I bet you were sick of the same things in 2000 as well, only then the WMD's were real in the case of India and Pakistan.

The only thing worse than a Good Old Boy Republican is a "conservative" Republican. Trying to decide which one is more hypocritical and corrupt...think the conservative side is ahead.

"I’ve found the new drinking game for the ‘08 debates! This time, we all take a shot every time the Republicans refer to Hillary! "

Posted by twaska, Tulsa, OK

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I imagine getting smashed is about the only way most folks could get into the frame of mind to cast a vote for Hillary. Why don't you try this drinking game.... Every time Hillary or one of her Democratic compadres mention "Bush" – you take a shot. You'd empty 3 tequila bottles before the first commercial break! What is especially odd about Hillary and the Dems... they must be oblivious to the US Constitution which limits candidates to TWO terms as President. George Bush isn't a candidate, Helloooooo Democrats!?

"Ron Paul won the text in poll with 38% of the vote"

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Hmmm – was this the same Ron Paul that was practically booed off stage after he went into his rant about the Iraq War?

Ron Paul isn't a Republican and he has ZERO chance of winning the nomination. But y'all RP disciples keep holding your breath!

If you are going to "try" and write, atleast get your facts straight. Bill Clinton was never impeached and as for the rest of that nonsense you are writing, put a sock in your mouth!

Posted By Karen,nj : October 22, 2007 11:20 am

Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton

If you are going to "try" and write, atleast get your facts straight. Bill Clinton was never impeached and as for the rest of that nonsense you are writing, put a sock in your mouth!

The GOP candidates all seem to be nothing more than a 'Barrel of Monkeys' – each one is a carbon copy with nothing different other than color. Besides, I'm rather sick of seven years of lies, corruption, fake WMD's, bad economic policies and cronyism.

A dedicated group of individuals have made a pledge to save democracy by cutting through confusing rhetoric and 30 second sound bits. Project Vote Smart simply asks for unfettered information from the presidential candidates through the Political Courage Test, which is then posted on their website, votesmart.org. All the candidates are required to do is give their positions on the issues that affect the lives of the American public. We should write not only on this blog, but on all of the presidential candidates blogs encouraging them to share their vision of America in a simple, coherent way.

Isn't it ironic the "conservative" Republicans support someone like Giuliani but then attempt to demonize Hillary Clinton? He has been married three times, one of which was to his first cousin and the second time ended because of his adultery. Not to mention his own children don't support him or even talk to him. Meanwhile Hillary forgave her husband (isn't forgiveness a Christian thing?) and raised a bright daughter who remains close to both her mother & father. Despite very public marital issues the Clintons have stuck together and remain committed to their vows. How could the conservative Christian base demonize a woman who is practicing what they are preaching? Ironic.

Did you hear what Heidi said on CNN. That psycho is asking Congress for another 42 billion dollars for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in a few hours. Does this nonsense ever end. I am so disqusted!

Whatever happened to good public speaking? These candidates are not able to discuss their ideas effectively, and the only one who did a decent job of speaking last night was Huckabee, but sadly I disagree with him on all of the issues.

Hillary and Barack look like geniuses compared to these apes.

Go Hillary!

I’ve found the new drinking game for the ‘08 debates! This time, we all take a shot every time the Republicans refer to Hillary! I think it will get us even more trashed than taking a shot every time Dubyuh said “It’s hard work” in the ‘04 debates.

The Christian voters have to take responsibility for the deaths they've caused, and smarten up this time around.

Posted By Diane, Sheffield, MA : October 22, 2007 8:24 am

Diane do you realize that we were attacked on 9/11 because we ARE a Christian nation? When we have fanatics out to kill us because of our Christian beliefs, we have to defend ourselves. By the way, if you look at the numbers, the number of deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan as compared to the number of homicides in America for the same time frame is less than 10%. Maybe we should pull out of America?

I'm liking Thompson more and more. Keep up the fight, Fred!

To J. Claude :

I know what you mean. We need to get rid of the Electoral college so that every person's vote will actually count for something.

As a registered Democrat, it doesn't really matter what my opinion is of the Republican field of candidates. I'll get my chance to decide if their choice is worthy of becoming President next November.

I do find it interesting though that every last one of them seem to think that Hillary is the shoo-in for the Democratic nomination. If she doesn't get the nomination, how are they going to run a campaign? They'll have to do some serious backpedaling to start attacking the Democratic nominee.

But I'm sure they'll find a way. That's the only way that Republicans know how to run a campaign. Because they know if they run on the issues, they'll lose royally.

You people are are so misinformed it is amazing. Hillary for president? That would be a replay of one of the worst presidencies in American history as far as unethical, criminal, and outrageous fabrications of the Truth.

If you people think that Hillary gives a rat's *** about the middle class then you are sadly mistaken. If she did she would not be trying to cut the tax breaks you recieve. She would also not be trying to institute this failed socialistic healthcare program. It hasn't worked for high end healthcare anywhere on the planet and it will not work here.

She says 110 Billion a year? Anyone that believes that is kidding themselvers. We spend 2 Billion a year in Illegal Aliens we give care to in Southern California. Her 110 Billion is a pipe-dream it could easily cost 5 times that. That is the price of our 5 year war every year for the rest of this countries exhistence. Are you ready to had that burden on to your children and grand children?

Here are so examples of Socialized medicine in practice. Please read and think about the government programs we currently have. Social Security, FEMA, and Medication assistance to name a few. All are unwieldy, bloated, and barely functioning examples of our government programs. Please be very aware of the danger of handing our healthcare over to the government.

Read PLEASE on the real Socialised Healthcare:

http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/issues/healthcare/socialized.html

Also I want you to read the Legacy of the previous Clinton administration and you decide for yourself is this is what you want for our country again.

- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court

Now do you think she is good for this country?

http://prorev.com/legacy.htm

Should I really try to vote this time? Maybe, maybe not. If I see a Ron Paul vs. Edwards race I will.

Interesting how every one, on both sides, keeps attacking Hillary, rather than saying what THEY could do for our country. Hillary doesn't attack anyone–she states what SHE could do for our country. I wish the others would do that, so we would have some idea what they would do if they won. Hillary is the only one who seems to have a program. We are in deep dodo if anyone but Hillary gets elected. And I think all the other candidates, both dems and repubs, know she is the most capable, and most likely to win the election, which is why they are all attacking her.
YOU GO, GIRL. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE SURPRISED WHO ALL IS FOR HILLARY IN THE PRIVACY OF THE VOTING BOOTHS.

Under Bush and his congress the National debt increased by 3.1 trillion dollars. Up 54%. This is how Republican Conservatives control our money. Clinton let 5 trillion (surplus)in the bank when he left. This is how they handle our money. If we vote a republican in office, we will be at war with Iran by ourselves!
WE ARE IN DANGEROUS TIMES.

They are directing attention to Hillary in a desperate attempt to keep the focus off Obama. The Republicans know if Hillary gets the nomination, they keep the White House, this is classic Rove strategy. I have voted Democrat or Independent since I gained the ability to vote. If Hillary wins the nomination I will vote Republican. I do not want to do this. Please Americans out there..Just go listen to any of Obama's speeches, please! Read anything he has written! Make an informed decision!
USA!!!!!!

I love how strongly people embrace the word "change." I'm quite frankly happy with the status quo with the exception of the mismanaged war. Redouble our efforts there, do it right, lower my taxes, take away more entitlements...we're good to go.

Is there a third party running for President because that's what we need!! Democrats want to raise our taxes and just spend spend spend. Republicans are too busy fighting amongst themselves and neither is thinking about what's best for our country. Therest of the world is sitting back and watching us. Bottom line, when it comes time to vote we need someone who not only cares about our people but also not be afraid to keep our country safe. If you think terrorism is going to disappear after President Bush is gone, you'd better think again!

Interesting place to cut Huckabee's quote CNN. He said: “I am more than content to let you let them fight all they want tonight, shed each other's blood and then I'll be ready to run for president because I'm not interested in fighting these guys. (and here's what you left out) What I'm interested in is fighting for the American people, and I think they're looking for a presidential candidate who's not so interested in a demolition derby against the other people in his own party."

I think the Hillary bashers need to give the American public more credit for actually being able to think for themselves instead of using fear to back the country into voting for any of the Republican candidates. People turn away from the Republican party because of the way they try to force their values, scare tactics and positions down everyone's throats. When it is all said and done, you can only look at each individual candidate (red or blue) and make the decision based on who will do the best job in the oval office. That person is Hillary Rodham Clinton hands down! It is sad that the Republican's cannot win approval ratings by being a good candidate but can only win approval by hating someone else. The Republican's and their sheep followers need to open their eyes and minds!!! HRC 2008!!!!!

The media is rigged and the electoral process is rigged. There is going to be a voting revolution before the next President is elected and hopefully before Cheney beats his war drum for the last time.

Just look at the image that heads this article. They line up these candidates like the winners podium at the olympics
even though the race isn't even halfway over. It is sickening what our democratic process has become. The people aren't going to take it much longer because we all know that everyone of those men on that stage are bought and paid for, with the exception of Ron Paul and they are playing the roles they were assigned. If Ron Paul doesn't win it will be the 3rd consecutive election that has been pre-determined before any patriotic American steps foot in front of any useless voting station.

RON PAUL IS WINNING EVERY POLL IN THE NATION AND THE MEDIA IS NOT TOUCHING IT OR TALKING ABOUT IT.

Get behind this man before you lose your country. Vote Republican in 2008.

The problem with Democracy is that half the voters have a below-average IQ.
Posted By Terry, El Paso, TX : October 22, 2007 7:54 am

And the other half blog (or respond to such) just to hear themselves blog

Greg in NYC hasn't condescended to post anything of substance here other than a one-liner about his Ivy League prominence (presumably in the interest of fashionable brevity,) so we'll have to assume he's an offended Democrat-Socialist. Survey sez?

It's instructive for the rest of us to note the sheer quantity of posts here by leftists that consist entirely of ad hominem potshots. Since the bulk of leftwing philosophy is logically, ethically and pragmatically bankrupt, the schoolyard sneer is about all that's left to its vestigial and recidivistic advocates in the way of an argument. A little sad, and a little comical...

First and foremost let's clear the air. Republicans are afraid of Hillary Clinton because they know she can win the election - end of story. No more elaborate conspiracies on trying to select our nominee so they can trash her–that's BS. Remember the election of 2006. They were preaching heavy to their base saying they can't have Nancy Pelosi as Speaker because she will destroy the country. Last time I checked when I woke up America was still here. The next Republican attack came saying the Democrats in the Congress and in the Senate aren't doing anything for the country. Once again like sheep the American people believed them not being aware of the tiny little fact that they keep FILLIBUSTERING all of the Democratic initiatives. The Clinton machine CAN WITHSTAND ALL of the attacks. Let us not forget they wrote the book on countering attacks from their rivals.

Democrats don't run scared. Don't believe the sliming. Do you honestly think Hillary Clinton didn't know what she was in for when she decided to run. This woman is PREPARED. Her political apparatus is PREPARED. She has been through the fire many many times. She is not afraid. All we need to do is back her at the polls and stop believing all the nonsense.

Last week the unfounded allegation came out that Senator Clinton allegedly listened to intercepts of phone calls pertaining to
political rivals. It amazed me how many Democratic sheep jumped on the bandwagon and immediately believed the story as fact without even hearing her side. We can't allow them to keep doing this to us. We can't allow our candidates to be swift-boated. Stand up and let them know we aren't going to take it –not this year - not any year.

HILLARY 2008

The Republican Party, or at least its politicians, are not conservative. The definition of Conservative is: "Holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change and innovation." Yet all I hear from the Republican Party is how they want to Change America. How they want to aggressively Change the world!

These are not traditional attitudes. These are not traditional values. Read almost any report about a member of the Republican Congress or Senate and all you hear is Change.

Stop trying to Change things and start fixing what we already have!

Terry, to repeat what I posted earlier, the proof – or lack of it – that Paul's polling data are padded significantly by propaganda-wanking leftists, will be in the proverbial pudding. We shall see how authentic these truly remarkable Paul poll numbers are in just about a year – since the standard Paul supporter is repeating the same petulant whine of "If Paul isn't nominated I'm picking up my ball and going home! Nyah!" Again, I predict his total write-in percentage will be a fraction of 1.

As a lifelong Reagan Republican I'm not particularly thrilled with any of this lot, but I do not believe the United States – therefore Western Civilization as a whole – can survive another Democrat-Socialist Presidency. So we'll have to make do with another placeholder. Giuliani or Thompson would work for me; Romney is only Bush in a tidier package. Too bad Janice Rogers Brown is busy.

As a soon to graduate college political science major; I like many of my generation are completely disillusioned with the entire political process and events like this debate only go to reinforce that. Halfway through the debate when Romney or Giuliani was trying to argue how they were truely conservative and could actual beat Clinton I realized something. Put Bush up on the stage and he wipes the floor with all of them. Yes, George W. Bush arguably the worst president of all time is better than anyone the Republicans can offer save Ron Paul.

I just don't understand how the American people could be so fickle and shallow. We have Giuliani cashing in on 9/11 at every turn which looked at even remotely closely reveals that he was in fact a terrible leader and his past led to the deaths of firefighters. On the other hand we have Romney who claims optimism and more of the same can save our country. I don't know which is worse. Never mind I do Giuliani is much worse.

A couple weeks ago when I heard about Ron Paul making up 5 million dollars in the last quarter I actually got my hopes up. The fact that someone actually addresses the real problems that face our nation and doesn't waste his time pandering to groups with talking about abortion and gay marriage actually have a chance at becoming president is amazing. However, after watching this debate I realized that will never happen. The odds are just too stacked against logic and change. I would go so far to say that democracy we have isn't worth defending if that means we get to choose from Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani.

Currently elected conservative Republicans have transformed a budget surplus into an obscene deficit; damaged this country's security by encouraging vital jobs to be outsourced overseas; broken any spirit of bi-partisanship; failed to discipline wrong doers in their own ranks; and assaulted our civil liberties with their rubber-stamp approach to dealing with the current White House occupant.

We, as a country, can ill-afford to reward such extremisim by voting for more mindless conservatives.

Posted By Bill, Streamwood, IL

I have to agree with you on everything you said and I AM a Democrat. You see how sad things are for Republicans when a voter might change sides because of the disappointment his own party has shown him? We had a large surplus in our budget, the economy was going great when Clinton left office and there were no major wars, what happened as soon as Bush and his Administration took power? They gobbled up the surplus like it was Christmas candy while talking about being "conservative" out the other side of their mouths; they DID not punish their own corrupt senators like Tom Delay or Mr. Ney, OR the perverts like Mark Foley as well as Mr. Ashcroft for lying, yet Bush sat up there on national television and lied that he would punish anyone caught doing dirty in his Administration..sigh.. Bush tried to sell our national security (ports)to Dubai which is owned by Saudi Arabia, we all know there's no way for a terrorist to take advantage of that opportunity! and was rebuffed by Democrats and a few Republicans, just as Bill said, tried to destroy important parts of our constitutional rights and civil liberties. Why in the HELL would I want to vote Republican after 6 years of that crap?!

There is nothing I fear more than one of the Republican conservatives being elected to complete the job Bush has done on the Constitution and individual liberties. Stu from Oregon has it exactly right when he says they're pandering to their base and failing to discuss the issues that are most important to the majority if Americans.

Best way to prove you're "most cnservative"...get the wifey-poo on the school board, show up at church every Sunday, stand steadfast on your anti-gay beliefs, then go out and get busted for lewd behavior. No one will question where your "loyalty lies".

These guy's remind me of a bunch of chickens. One pecks at a pile of sh.., and all the other ones come running to do the same. It doesn't matter if we elect a Democrat or Republican. This is a country of the rich, by the rich and for the rich. They all want to protect their special interests, lobbyists and loopholes, while the poor get poorer and the middle class becomes the camel with too mant straws on it's back. Israel wanted a king like every other nation around it. Maybe we should stop pretending to believe that this country is ran by the people and elect a king (or queen) once and for all. HILLARY FOR QUEEN! And God help us!!!

RIGHT ON GUILIANA!
You have the fire in the belly, to beat ole lefty Hillary!

Questioning Clinton's dedication to national security, however, comma, is neither disgraceful nor "disingenuos"[sic] – it's a valid criticism of her political ideology.

Posted By Ellis Wyatt, Los Angeles, CA USA

Right, when we're SO much safer now with Republicans in the Whitehouse right now. Bush tried to sell our "security" to Dubai a few years ago to control our ports, remember that? hmm, didn't see this happening when the Clintons were in office. Now we see our nation's finest fighting force mired down in a country that did NOTHING to us and Putin in Russia is starting to get huffy because he sees how thin our forces are spread in the Middle East right now..if Republicans had listened when Clinton warned them on the way out that there was going to be a problem, 9/11 would never have happened. They had 9 months to do something before 9/11 happened but chose to do nothing. So don't talk about National security and Republicans in the same breath because I will laugh in your face and fart in your dinner.

Huckabee realizes the courts will not go with Christian conservative policy in denying a right to privacy. He's correct in asking for a Constitutional Amendment but does not realize that lower income for the working class lowers parochial school attendance which lowers participation at church.

Come on! Congressman Ron Paul is clearly the most conservative. And that's among both Republicans AND Democrats. People, stop going along with whomever the mainstream media rams down your throats. Let's start thinking for ourselves here....

Romney has to be the biggest WIMP in GOP history.

Hillary hasn't even been nominated and he's running around with his tail between his legs. Hey Mitt, are you really that afraid of this woman?

Anybody that votes for him deserves what they get. Massachusetts got fooled big-time by this guy. I hope the rest of America wakes up before the right gives him the nod.

Stop vying to be the "most conservative" or "most liberal" candidate, guys and gals.

Tell me what you, not your party, not your political action committees and lobbyists, not your donors, but YOU really believe. Tell me you'll really listen to the American people, and mean it. Tell me that you'll listen to your conscience as well, and use ethical/moral principals in governing the country. Finally, tell me that you'll restore checks and balances within our government, and that you'll abide by them, and the Constitution. At that point, I don't care whether you claim to be a Republican or a Democrat; you'll have my vote.

My, how things have changed since "Mr. Conservative" Barry Goldwater ran in 1964! Now, these so-called "conservatives" in the Republican party wouldn't have given him the time of day, since he didn't agree with government interference in the handling of so-called "family values" issues. When he died in the mid-90's, he went virtually unmourned by these so-called "conservatives." There is only one true conservative running, and that is Ron Paul. As I am a conservative in the tradition of Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul is the only Republican candidate I can support. The other candidates would follow their own "noble" neo-con tradition - imperialism abroad and the nurturing of hate, fear and division at home.

Anyone that believes anything that Fox news says is a Republican. I can't stand that channel. Hannity is an obnoxious little twirp. Alot of other people think that too. Someone told me that O'Rielly has to have body guards because everyone hates him.

Greg from NY

No one cares that you went to an Ivy League Law School. Who are you trying to impress?
Why dont you focus on the message that is being presented? If you want to be a critic, go someplace else to do it. People here are presenting their opinions, and whether we agree with them or not, it is the proper forum.

They seem to have learned nothing from the huge mistakes of pandering to the Christian right in the last election. They elected a "pro-lifer" that condoned torture and killed more people than anyone thought possible. I'm sure there were even a few fetus' killed in Iraq. The Christian voters have to take responsibility for the deaths they've caused, and smarten up this time around.

You know, I am beginning to enjoy it. I hope people who want to vote republican realize this but at the moment this whole spectacle reminds me of male apes. The jump around each other hoot loudly "ME, I AM THE TRUE AND ONLY CONSERVATIVE!", "No, No, YOU SUCK, I AM More conservative then YOU"... kids on the playground...

These debates seriously make me laugh. I really don't care who is the most conservative, I want to know who has what it takes to run this country. The ONLY candidate that I can see who has what it takes is Rudy Giuliani. I don't want a right-wing conservative to be my president, I want a candidate who can work with everyone in the congress and senate (and country) to make the United States a better place.

If you look at the other options (Clinton or Obama) are they better? Are the fundamentalists going to vote for them? I think not. So, I urge the republican candidates to talk about their records honestly, stop putting each other down all the time and stop vying for one segment of the population.

Many would say, "well, the right-wing Christian conservatives are the ones that come out to vote" and for the most part, they'd be right. But, do you honestly believe that the right-wing is going to vote for Hillary Clinton? I think not.

Again, Giuliani is right. Why does someone have to pass a 100% litmus test of conservative values to be the GOP candidate? I want a conservative on fiscal issues and I want government to stay out of my wallet and bedroom.
My vote will ALWAYS go to Rudy Giuliani, the only "sane" voice that is running right now.

Guiliani has the numbers but will not get the nod. Romney is too plastic and is not trusted. Huckabee, Thompson, Paul and Hunter don't have enough traction. That leaves McCain by default, regardless of his vote against Somalia, his cave in during judicial confirmations, his horrible immigration bill and lack of new direction (all the
Republicans except Paul) that this country needs.

Terry, you are wrong, my friend. About 90% of voters have a below average IQ. Mathematically impossible I know, but the evidence on this website is incontrovertible.

Like kids fighting with each other. What a bunch hypocrite men!

Paranoia grips the right...

"Again, Ron Paul comes out as the winner. However, no one wil believes this because of fox news' unscientific polling and absurdly biased commentary." – Posted By John, NJ

John, could it be possible that the same crowd of socialists who framed OJ is now trying to bring down Ron Paul?

"As for Ron Paul, the only reason he's been consistently winning online and on-air polls is because a dedicated clutch of Demo-Socialist seminar activists have been vigorously promoting him for antiwar propaganda value." – By Ellis Wyatt, Los Angeles, CA USA : October 22, 2007 1:58 am

The conspiracy is even sicker than I previously realized. It now turns out that Ron Paul's supporters are really pacifist-socialists who support Paul because he is a weakling and a pacifist. What twisted, sick socialist mind invented this conspiracy in the first place, I wonder? Could it be Al Gore...?

"So fox news doesn't think that the text vote was accurate because Ron Paul won. How do you mess up that vote? I mean seriously, do they think I'm sitting on 3500 cell phones in my apartment texting one at a time? How can they say on Hannity and Colmes that 'they stacked the deck' on Ron Paul." – Anonymous : October 22, 2007 2:10 am

Dear God in Heaven! How twisted the plots are becoming! Now Fox News is plotting against Ron Paul becuase he is a "true" Conservative. They only support "false" Conservatives. They've been lying all this time (well, we all knew that anyway).

The problem with Democracy is that half the voters have a below-average IQ.

There is no substance to Giuliani's campaign and all he could do is attack Clinton, but if you look at his policies and past work in office, he was very autocratic and is not presidential material.

And Giuliani said it was a bad thing Thompson sided with Democrats. To me, we want a President not afriad to be independent thinkers and seperate from the base of the party.

I can't see eve one of this men as our next President, and I can't wait till Giuliani crashes in about every early primary.

The Republican candidates' pandering to the far right is the main reason I, a registered Republican, will probably vote for Democrats and/or moderates in the 2008 election.

Currently elected conservative Republicans have transformed a budget surplus into an obscene deficit; damaged this country's security by encouraging vital jobs to be outsourced overseas; broken any spirit of bi-partisanship; failed to discipline wrong doers in their own ranks; and assaulted our civil liberties with their rubber-stamp approach to dealing with the current White House occupant.

We, as a country, can ill-afford to reward such extremisim by voting for more mindless conservatives.

Under Bush and his congress the National debt increased by 3.1 trillion dollars. Up 54%. Can our country afford 4 or ever 8 more years of Republican Conservatives in control of our money.

I know that there are registered Republicans who are actually Democrats at heart, but for "social" reasons they stay in the closet.

Karen, I think if you listen really hard you will hear one of your animals calling for you. Maybe it's the hamster that was victimized while in hamster boot camp that Barack would do nothing about and only Hillary could help.

Go Fred! The field killed the communist Hillary calling her out for who she is. CNN why did you forget to report what Clinton said????? " I have many ideas for america, you just can't afford them all". Go

Very nearly every nauseating line in this debate was scripted. Disgusting how such a show has been made of our political theater. What about the issues? What about Iraq? What about the President's approval rating? What about the Senate's approval rating? Oh dear, lets not talk about those things! We might not get a Republican elected.

Got to be smarter then the sheep.

In a barrage of lively attacks on one another, the Republican presidential hopefuls on Sunday night couldn't agree on who is the most conservative candidate in the White House race, but they could agree on the most liberal: Hillary Clinton.

There not afaid of CLINTON.

1) Republicans know there at a huge disadvatage in next election for president.
2) Republicans know CLINTON will drive a lot of swing voter to vote republican. Becuse of her past and as a flip flooper. IE Obama Naive for talking with Iran!!!!!!

3) All those republicans know if any of em want a good chance to win the general election they better run against CLINTON. Because any other canidate like Obama or Biden Will crush any republican runner in General Election.

with that whats would be the best strategy for the rupublican will use to win the whitehouse. hmmm I wonder I know lets all team up on CLINTON so we will upset the democrat sheep so they will put CLINTON in the general election so we will have the best chance of winning the WHITE HOUSE.
kind of sounds like star wars with Palptine takeing over the senate to start his facist government.

IF you are a sheep CLINTON for 08 Congrats you just fell pray to republican manipulation

Want to fix the country Biden or Obama for 08 Congrats you can think for your self without republicans telling you how to think.

Use your HEADS republican are the master of manipulation!!!!! Why are the republicans tring to pick the Democrat that will run in the general election???IE CLINTON

hey TOM from nyc,,, you mentioned "US WOMEN " in your comments,,?????????

John McCain's point about being able to fool the American people is not a good illistration, We elected Bush! Twice?

So...each GOP candidate tried to escape his past? Rudy Giuliani, who wears dresses more often than Cher, tried to prove that he is a man by dropping his pants!

Those in the front row, however, reported that he came up short.

Vote for King Paul

HEY CNN, I THINK I FIGURED THIS WHOLE THING OUT. PEI...I googled strategist and I think that this is Erica Payne a democratic strategist from Manhattan. Am I right this time? Is that possible considering that this is such a wierd place.

Wow, excellent article, Steve Brusk! You managed to mention a whole five of the eight candidates that were present at the debate!
I really wonder what criteria you use when you choose who to write about and who not to.

Ellis, I went to an Ivy League law school, so naturally, I was exposed to extreme verbosity, but you sir take the cake. Completely unnecessary.

Did you notice how many times the GOP candidates accused each other of being Hillary Clinton?!

So fox news doesn't think that the text vote was accurate because Ron Paul won. How do you mess up that vote? I mean seriously, do they think I'm sitting on 3500 cell phones in my apartment texting one at a time? How can they say on Hannity and Colmes that "they stacked the deck" on Ron Paul. Did we "cheat" by not voting for the right guy? Is it impossible that maybe Americans want change?

WOW ! Mitt Romney looks the most confident, the most comfortable the best up there. Fred Thompson looks a bit snobby, as if he is just tolerating being up there. McCain looks as if he's just enjoying himself. Guiliani looks a bit fake, almost as if he wishes he were elsewhere.
Just callin' it as I see it

Sean Hannity is saying his own stations poll is invalid! He would not be saying that if FreMitRuJohn showed up in first place. He did not mock Mike Huckabee's 2nd place numbers at all, so what's up Sean?

Why not talk about Ron Paul's message with a serious thought? What are you worried about?

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Google Ron Paul

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

As for Ron Paul, the only reason he's been consistently winning online and on-air polls is because a dedicated clutch of Demo-Socialist seminar activists have been vigorously promoting him for antiwar propaganda value.

The reason the also-rans are not being considered viable, as contrasted with the three leading candidates, is because...they're simply not as popular, ergo viable, as the frontrunners. Sorry to rain on the Paul parade, but there it is. I suspect that when Paul's write-in percentages from The Disgruntled come back a year from now, they'll amount to a fraction of 1%. The man is nearly perfect on domestic issues, but his Kantian categorical-imperative attitude on national defense – a kind of masterpiece of context-dropping – is an instant disqualifier for the Presidency. A government restored to the strict limits of the Constitution is of little value when the newly-unshackled people of America have been reduced to smoking lumps of polycarboniferous sludge, baked to the pavement by al-Qaida and/or Chinese and/or Russian nukes. In Paul's eyes, military action isn't justified unless an American citizen has an AK-47 shoved into his face and the bullet is actually en route to its destination. That kind of militant irrationality is just a slick repackaging of the threadbare "Ban the Bomb" attitude of the '60s, and an instant No-Go on Presidential eligibility. The man is of vastly more benefit to the cause of individual rights and liberty as a member of Congress.

It is quite interesting that most of the candidates, Democrat and Republican, seem to think that the important issues are those that do not amount to doodly squat. Abortion, family values, religious beliefs, creationism. What do any of these have to do with what is important today? These issues seek one thing and one thing only and that is to pander to ignorant Americans who somehow think that if these matters were resolved in favor of the right wing view, everything else in the world will be alright. I have yet to hear a single candidate say anything of substance in terms of precisely how they will attempt to resolve any of this country's serious problems–poverty, medical care, the environmment, immigration, crime, the loss of civil right, the war in Iraq. Who cares if Fred Thompson was against tort reform? How will changing the way tort cases are handled make life better for the average working American? When someone explains how they will end the grip that multi-national corporations and lobbysists have on everything that happens in this country, then I'll start paying attention. Until then, stop boring me. At no point in tonight's so-called debate–which it certainly wasn't–did any mention of Bush's recent comment about World War III get discussed. And I'm sick and tired of these guys, and the Democrats, bragging about which one of them is the most religious. If the Republicans expect to win next year, they had better start focusing on issues and not on the Democrats. If the Democrats expect to win, they need to stop sounding like Republicans. We are all sick of it and at this point there seems to be little difference among any of the candidates of either party. From talking with many of my friends, the thing that both parties need to be worried about is whether more than than just value voters are going to sit out the next election because, at this point, we see no difference. Finally, as a disabled combat veteran, my veteran friends and I, and our families, are still waiting to hear a single candidate discuss what they intend to do about adequate funding for the VA and the lack of meaningful treatment and benefits for the men and women returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Not one single word has been uttered about this despicable situation.

rudy's lisp is really annoying.

LET THE GREAT PANDER-OFF COMMENCE!!!

By the way everyone here who supports Hillary:
She recently said he wants to keep the troops in Iraq AT LEAST until the end of her first term as president. That is 2013!
I'm not a republican I'm just warning you that the last thing we need is another member of the same family that has been president since the 80's. Bush Clinton Bush Bush Clinton? Not to mention Bush Sr. being VP under Regan for 8 years!
That isn't America! Wake up, people!!!

Hillary won the debate hands down.

These GOP candidates are beyond pathetic.

OMG they all have no idea on America,the wanna make the poor poorer and did ya notice never mentioned at all the middle class. yes there is lotts of republicans that are going democrat,the middle class went poor and the upper middle class went below.Hillary is going to win they are scared ,and now Cheny coming out with his statments that Iran will not have a Nucleur Weapon.Same ole thing blasting Hillary and Pelosi,I'll tell ya right now women wont stand for any of these men.Its time for a women to Take Charge.They are disrespectfull To A Senator who has Expierence and knows the issues what we are facing.Her campaign is the strongest of any I have seen since Jack Kennedy.there on this kick with ronald regan thats 30 some years ago.hes gone ..As A Nation we need to run on whats happening right now,not the clinton years not the regan years not the kennedy's year.I will vote for Hillary to this day,she is Intelligent ,has a vocabulary,and explains what we are facing,into todays world I will not support Obama,he is Preaching gospel,his rallys are geared for Gospel church type,instead of issues,and his attacks on Mrs. Clinton Us women will prevail and show these men we do not need them,and there false accusations of her.It gets petty tiresome,they have no real solutions,nothing viable,I dont believe any of the men.And one thing about taxes you get them back,even if they are raised.we did with Bill and with her she will do the same.Her ideas are logic Rudi G..is a liar he fixed potholes for NYC,Hillary fixes problems.her spending spree is not factual look what we spend with republicans,300 trillion dollars into war so far.this will be for by great granchildren if we dont stop it right now the war.I believe in 8 years Hillary will have us back to NORMAL.

Let me be honest, I missed the debate ( I am a Pittsburgher, thus, I watching the Steeler game), but after being frustrated with the loss and catching up on the events of the debate, I realize I missed NOTHING. Fox News will not cover what needs to be covered, Romney and Rudy still continue to be afraid of Hillary, and Huckabee shined. I am a Hillary supporter and believe in her. But, I hope the GOP voters will at least make a "right" decision. Nominate Huckabee. I do NOT agree with on 99.9% of anything, but I respect him. Unlike the demagogue of Rudy or the "flip-flopping" and pandering of Romney. Does anyone feel else besides me feel like moving to Canada if Rudy and his "fear-mongering" ways are President?

This one goes out to bprossersme.

It is a sad day in this country when a person is denegrated for contributing intelligently to public discourse.

Ron Paul once again proved he is the strongest conservative. He is a constitutionalist – how much more conservative can you get?

Oh and to further add to the fire, he got first place again in the poll.

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With the exception of Ron Paul most GOP Rivals Argue Who's Most Conservative, Ron Paul As he has before, Paul spoke passionately against the war in Iraq. But he also accused his Republican rivals of being for big government. "Our big-government conservatives, they're part of the neo-conservative movement.

Who won the Orlando, Florida Republican debate?
-> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=765

those are some expensive suits, right there

Rudy Giuliani, has proved to all that he is fickle. He is a man with two past wives,... and is now with a third he gained by cheating on his second wife. He went after his happiness without considering his former mates or his offspring(s) feelings. How am I to trust him to be fully faithful to this country,.. when he couldn't be faithful to two prior wives of his? His love last as long as a strainer can hold water. It just so happened that he was the mayor at the time of 9/11/2001. The police and fireman and medic's were the hero's...Not Giuliani.
As for H.R. Clinton,..she is someone I wouldn't trust to expect the truth to ever come out of her mouth.

Hey, Q.Christian Atlanta GA, This forum is for "comments" not book reports. Get with the program. I'm surprised CNN Watchdogs let that one through. Oh, that's right, it was by a Democrat. LOL

Approval meters soared off the charts with the mention of defeating Hillary Clinton. These people are replused by Clinton and consider her a threat to U.S. Security worldwide.

I cannot honestly say that I see any of the Republican candidates, or Republican Light candidates (specifically Hillary) creating any positive change for our country. Just more of the same.

Ron Paul won the text in poll with 38% of the vote. Then slowly slid to a win of 34%.

But thats not really important...whats important is that the 3rd place Giulliani got a pathetic 12%

Moral of the story: There's only 4 candidates that the media has chosen for you to pick from. They're all the same and will do the same amount of harm to our country. Either you rely on the media to make your decisions or you think for yourself. Ron Paul is the man to blow this wide open. 2008 will be known as the year the American people took back America. God Bless.

Again, Ron Paul comes out as the winner. However, no one wil believes this because of fox news' unscientific polling and absurdly biased commentary.

Given all these candidates' respective showings at the conservative straw poll yesterday, it does not seem in doubt who is winning this argument! The only question is whether Giuliani can do enough damage control.

They are all so afraid of Hillary...

I have never seen so many men be so afraid of one little bitty woman. If the Republicans really didn't believe Hillary could become President they wouldn't be villifying her as the wicked witch who wants to destroy America. I think it's absolutely disgusting that the Republican candidates and the Republican party are trying to use the tactics of fear and misinformation to try once again sell the American people on their failed policies.

I think Republicans should offer their agenda for America and let that speak for them instead of relentlessly attacking Hillary Clinton and denigrating a great woman. Love her or hate her she is a respected figure in American politics and a sitting US Senator. I think it's absolutely disgraceful and disingenuos of the Republicans to characterize Hillary as someone who would not protect America and someone who would not work to make sure America stays the worlds sole super power.

If we as Democrats fail to see through this veiled attempt to scare us into not supporting a Democratic administration we will lose more than just the Presidency. This election is one of ENORMOUS importance. Regardless of who the Democratic nominee turns out to be, we need to support them. If we get one more Republican President they can tip the balance of the Supreme Court. This would be a disaster for ALL AMERICANS if this happens. I urge all Democrats to put aside their petty differences and wake up and see what this election is really about.

HILLARY 2008