October 22nd, 2007
12:00 PM ET
6 years ago

Republicans get heated

Watch CNN’s Dana Bash report on last night’s debate.

WASHINGTON (CNN) – CNN’s Dana Bash reports last night's presidential debate often got heated as the candidates compared their conservative credentials.

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  1. James, Phoenix AZ

    I'm a conservative and I thought the whole "who is a better conservative" segment was just silly.

    If the Republican Party wants to portray an organization which reaches out to people other than the just the "religious right" – we must be open to candidates which share the basic principals of the Republican Party – yet allows for varying personal views.

    Guiliani supports Judges that are strict constituionalists. That's good enough for me. The PRESIDENT does not create law – Congress does. The PRESIDENT does not rule on court cases – Judges do.

    I would rather have a Rudy Guiliani who is strong on military, homeland security, fiscal conservative, and Pro-Choice.... than Hillary who would usher in European Socialism – dozens of new social entitlement programs, rolling back tax cuts, and would acquiese to the Blame-America crowd on military issues.

    This next election really is... Anyone But Hillary.

    October 22, 2007 01:07 pm at 1:07 pm |
  2. Al, NY NY

    As these wannabes (Giuliani/Romney) tack further to the right to appease the intolerant, narrow-minded Bible thumpers at this convention, they seal their fate with the rest of the country. They are falling over each other to convince the crowd how conservative they are. It makes me laugh, especially for Rudy as he contradicts himself time after time and twists his past beliefs to try to appeal to these people who unfortunately for them, control the GOP.

    I am now waiting to hear from someone mention the Harry Potter revelation about Dummeldor. They already had their ridiculous opinions about the books, but this will send them into a frenzy. Let the book burning begin!

    October 22, 2007 01:11 pm at 1:11 pm |
  3. Andrew, NJ

    so essentially you want to sell out your beliefs completely...just so that you can hope to win against Hillary? Giulliani has so many skeletons in his closet you'll essentially give the election to Clinton.

    He won't be able to talk about morals w/o being ridiculed. He won't be able to talk about fiscal conservatism w/o being ridiculed.

    All he'll able to talk about is the war, and when 75% of independants are against the war, and the GOP is outnumbed by Dems 2 to 1, you really cannot win on a pro-war platform.

    Just you watch, you put down the only anti-war republican in debates, and then come November you'll find out how the country truly feels. And don't you think it'll be the biggest slap in the face to Hillary, to steal her anti-war vote?

    Take war out of equation and its a real fiscal conservative vs tax and spend liberal.

    If we put up a pro-war candidate, you can't even use the conservative card...because she'll just come back with "How do you want to tell the American people that they should tough it out, while you spend all their money overseas?"

    October 22, 2007 01:16 pm at 1:16 pm |
  4. Dave, Alpharetta, GA

    Watching a tired party collapse is entertainment TV. It is so amusing to watch the GOP believe that slamming Hillary is the key to the White House.

    NEWS FLASH!! If you do not offer specific details and a real, implementable vision, don't expect the "mice" to follow.

    Even more interesting is to read or listen to the so-called "Conservatives" embrace these guys whose very history of public service align more with Hillary than against. Yet, Rudy is at 28%? Notice how he avoided the answer and challenge posed by Thompson last night when Fred pointed out this fact? Rudy's comeback... Fred did not support "Tort reform".

    This is great stuff I will admit. LOL

    October 22, 2007 01:31 pm at 1:31 pm |
  5. jay, Snellville, GA

    I think the problem is many Republicans project their hatred of Hillary on the nation. Indepedants hate the war more than they hate Hillary. (70% do at least).

    Bush BARELY squeaked in in 2004, when the war was still semi-popular. Pro-war, be scared, hate terror, torture, torture, is not going to win the independant vote this time around.

    Hillary isn't exactly anti-war either, BUT she will WHIP Rudy G. I have always voted Repub...I will not vote for Rudy G. or Hillary. I will stay home.

    October 22, 2007 01:37 pm at 1:37 pm |
  6. Daniel

    It was indeed stunning how many times they accused each other of literally being Hillary Clinton!

    October 22, 2007 01:44 pm at 1:44 pm |
  7. Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA

    "Republicans get heated" because they have "that Bob Dole thing" and can't "get hot", but they're fun to watch as they compete for who is the most reactionary candidate.

    October 22, 2007 01:47 pm at 1:47 pm |
  8. Julie, San Francisco

    What a fine display of the great leadership qualities this party is ready to further dispense this nation...they're greatest endeavor to attack Hillary Clinton! This from the party who has given us the last seven years of national anguish and ramped up the spiteful and spun attacks on those who do not believe exactly as they do. While I'm sure there are qualified Republican candidates...and I am neither Repub or Dem, there is no faith left in what this band of demoralizing, spiteful, sycophants can do to the benefit the nation. Aligning with the legions of fundamentalist, fear-mongering extremists has done more harm then good, as has allowing a substandard of intelligence to achieve and maintain the highest office in the land and diminish us as a nation as much as he has. Is there any true leadership left in this declining empire?

    October 22, 2007 01:55 pm at 1:55 pm |
  9. James, Phoenix AZ

    Andrew, NJ

    You wrote, "If we put up a pro-war candidate, you can't even use the conservative card…because she'll just come back with "How do you want to tell the American people that they should tough it out, while you spend all their money overseas?"

    --

    I assume you must be a Ron Paul supporter? I ask because even ALL the Democratic candidates (those with a real chance at their nomination) will not commit to having the troops back from Iraq by 2013.

    Sell out my beliefs?? Andrew – are your beliefs determined by the leaders in Washington DC? Regardless of the President or which candidate I support – I am able to maintain MY core set of beliefs independent of politicians.

    It's not selling out ... it's called being Pragmatic. It's understanding that being politically penny-wise and pound-foolish will result in NO voice in Washington, and an inability to effect ANY change.

    Regardless of who the final candidates for Republicans and Democrats.. the debate WILL be around:

    1. Military efforts (How we finish the effort in Iraq, What we do about Iran, What efforts we will continue making on the fight against terrorism, etc)

    2. Domestic Spending (a return to fiscal conservatism verus a myriad of new social entitlement programs, continued tax cuts versus Robinhood taxation, etc)

    3. Supreme Court Appointments (more appointees like Scalia – friends with Rudy – or more like Ruth Bader Ginsburg)

    4. Abortion/Social issues (continued allowance of partial birth abortion, minors having abortion without parental notification, birth control being given out to young girls (11 yrs old) in school without parental notification..... or .... an approach which respects life, respects the authority of parents, and making alternative choices to abortion more attractive (adoption, etc).

    5. Illegal Aliens: Amnesty versus a program to honor the laws of our land and protects our borders.

    Andrew – if you want to be a single-issue voter, certainly that is your right. It's not a formula for political success in a divided nation, but it remains your right.

    October 22, 2007 01:56 pm at 1:56 pm |
  10. Chris, FL

    This was the MOST dissapointing event in US history. What has become of politics in our country? It wasn't a debate at all. It was SO obvious that it was all fixed. You had some candidates joking and poking. There were some unfair questions. You had a FIXED audience. There must be some candiates Rudy and Mitt are scarred of as it was obvious the audience and FOX NEWS was rigged in favor of some candidates.

    I turned it off and watched Monsters Inc. At least I know Disney is fake.

    October 22, 2007 02:01 pm at 2:01 pm |
  11. Anonymous

    A huge contes3t to see who can be the biggest bigot! What an honor.
    These people and their followers are hopeless.

    October 22, 2007 02:11 pm at 2:11 pm |
  12. Chris, Middletown, CT

    Jay
    Theres no way you "used to vote Republican" – then you are now leaning towards Hillary – thats impossible....as a Republican – you would be fiscally conservative....and she is so not....700+ billion in new spending proposed....and thats ongoing....the war will end (which btw – she voted for...and the Democrats funded....yet....they seem to want you to forget this.....Jay...there is no way you ever voted Republican)

    October 22, 2007 02:20 pm at 2:20 pm |
  13. Seam, Philly PA

    Hey Republicans, way to show your anti-bipartison leadership attributes. You guys clearly show your ability to bring everyone together, regardless of political affiliation. You all would make fine Presidents. Not! Do you morons actually think you can achieve success with a Democratic controlled Congress and Senate with your macho conservative views? Majority of the country is not moved by this.

    October 22, 2007 02:21 pm at 2:21 pm |
  14. Chris, Middletown, CT

    Hillary supporters....did you ever Google search Saul Alinsky? (and see the student become the teacher?) – its funny how pushes ideas from a grassroots Marxist is somehow palatable?? And no mention of tacking a million onto the SCHIP "its for the children....boo hoo hoo....its for the children" bill?? (not only a cool million for the Woodstock museum...but this is handout money to the states....who is funding adults....18+ year olds....) – and taking money from the Chinese again....(people making 12,000 a year....giving 1,000 to Clinton....how does that work....as a Giuliani supporter....I look forward to the head to head....he will do very well....a social liberal...and a fiscal conservative....he speaks to 80% of the population – my prediction...he will get 60% of the vote – a true moderate...and sending a clear message to Saul Alinskys "girl" – we are a democracy....and we are capitalists....

    October 22, 2007 02:33 pm at 2:33 pm |
  15. jay, Snellville, GA

    I said I would not vote for Rudy OR (notice the or) Hillary.

    I will stay home.

    October 22, 2007 02:46 pm at 2:46 pm |
  16. Jon, Pittsburgh, PA

    James in Phoenix – you are spouting off like you know a lot about the issues but, you have made so many factually incorrect statements (beliefs) that you cannot be taken seriously. The totally misinformed public is beginning to make me sick. I cannot believe Americans can be manipulated so easily. It’s embarrassing.

    October 22, 2007 02:51 pm at 2:51 pm |
  17. Stephen, Naples, Florida

    The way these Democrat fundamentalists accuse anyone further right than themselves of bigotry and hate. If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

    October 22, 2007 03:06 pm at 3:06 pm |
  18. Jack, Mims FL

    John Stewart summed this up perfectly on The Daily Show: Romney/Giuliani want you to believe that Hillary Clinton is responsible for the military, diplomatic and budgeting DISASTER that W and his scandal-riddled, fact-ignorant, short-sighted administration has brought America over the past six years.

    They will say absolutely ANYTHING to place the blame elsewhere, just hoping people don't notice the little 'R' next to their names.

    "REPUBLICANS": YOU'RE DESTROYING THIS NATION WITH FOOLHARDY OVERSPENDING AND PIGHEADED HUBRIS. SHAME ON EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.

    October 22, 2007 03:09 pm at 3:09 pm |
  19. Colony 14 author, Don F, Mount Prospect, Illinois

    One of the most critical issues will be who the next President nominates for any Supreme Court vacancies. I'll vote for the candidate who holds the Constitution in the highest regard. If his vote for Robert Bork in 1987 is any indication, McCain would select a qualified nominee. I'd bet Hunter, Tancredo, and Huckabee would do the same. As for the rest of the Republican candidates, I wouldn't bet the farm that they wouldn't nominate a wishy-washy judge just to avoid a tough confirmation fight – but they'd certainly still pick better candidates than Hillary Stalin Clinton.

    October 22, 2007 03:10 pm at 3:10 pm |
  20. Karen,nj

    I saw CNN clips on that debate this morning and they looked and acted like a bunch of Keystone Gops actually. Unbelievable.

    October 22, 2007 03:21 pm at 3:21 pm |
  21. Eric, from THE Republic of Texas

    These are not debates.

    When there are only two candidates, then it will be a debate.

    Right now it's simply a soundbite showcase.

    October 22, 2007 03:22 pm at 3:22 pm |
  22. James, Phoenix AZ

    Jon – Pittsburg,

    You wrote,
    "James in Phoenix – you are spouting off like you know a lot about the issues but, you have made so many factually incorrect statements (beliefs) that you cannot be taken seriously. The totally misinformed public is beginning to make me sick. I cannot believe Americans can be manipulated so easily. It’s embarrassing."

    -–

    Funny, Jon, I missed the memo that mandated all comments be vetted through Jon-Pittsburgh. I also must have missed the national debate that nominated you to be the grand-poo-baa of the internet... that only views that are pleasing to Jon-Pittsburgh be posted.

    If you THINK you have a gasp on ANY issue and wish to debate a topic – please share. But your ad hominen attack shows you simply don't have the intelligence, facts, nor ability to articulate a reasonable position.

    Jon??

    .

    (crickets chirping)

    October 22, 2007 03:24 pm at 3:24 pm |
  23. Karen,nj

    Yes, I did google Saul, yesterday.

    October 22, 2007 03:45 pm at 3:45 pm |
  24. Monte Brown

    With all the Hillary hatings the Republicans do, how could we not resist just voting for Hillary Clinton? Everytime her name flies from their mealy mouths we, the American people who love our country, should think for a moment. Why are they still hating on the Clintons? Fifteen years of hate, hate, hate. The Republicans should just stop hating, come out of denial and join the winning team. Hillary Clinton is the most qualified, the most experienced candidate, and she's READY TO LEAD.

    October 22, 2007 03:56 pm at 3:56 pm |
  25. Ivan, Chicago, Illinois

    What makes you and I free is our Constitution. Our Constitution protects us from our Government.
    The only republican running for the presidental nomination today that believes in our Constitutions is Ron Paul. The rest of them will contiune the policy began by Bush of stripping away those protections. Till one day our children will wake up with BIG BROTHER watching their every move. It all stared out in the name of security but will continue just to keep those in power in power.

    October 22, 2007 04:13 pm at 4:13 pm |
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