Comments on: Thompson outlines immigration plan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Doremus Jessup, Vermont http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-112776 Doremus Jessup, Vermont Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:43:53 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-112776 WAY TO GO Fred. In the spirit of your brilliant plan, please be sure to REVOKE the tax exempt status of all religious organizations that practice politics - it's a violation of separation of church and state. Oh, also remove all military personel from service that may be gay or express disagreement with Dick Cheney. And please, please be sure to send every politician to prison for criminal behavior and execute anyone, including high ranking officials guilty of treason, ya know, like uncovering CIA spies, etc. WAY TO GO Fred. In the spirit of your brilliant plan, please be sure to REVOKE the tax exempt status of all religious organizations that practice politics – it's a violation of separation of church and state. Oh, also remove all military personel from service that may be gay or express disagreement with Dick Cheney. And please, please be sure to send every politician to prison for criminal behavior and execute anyone, including high ranking officials guilty of treason, ya know, like uncovering CIA spies, etc.

]]> By: Nita, Killeen, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111293 Nita, Killeen, TX Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:41:31 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111293 I think that's a great idea. Instead of forcing businesses to support illegal immigrants who flock to certain sites and stores for work, they need to deflect all that attention back to the local municipalities and make adhere to the law to the law of the land. I think that's a great idea. Instead of forcing businesses to support illegal immigrants who flock to certain sites and stores for work, they need to deflect all that attention back to the local municipalities and make adhere to the law to the law of the land.

]]> By: Linda - Albany, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111178 Linda - Albany, NY Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:38:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111178 This is one issue I agree with Thompson on. However, more needs to be done, like sending illegals already here back home where they belong. This is one issue I agree with Thompson on. However, more needs to be done, like sending illegals already here back home where they belong.

]]> By: t http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111054 t Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:18:23 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111054 "This issue has real implications for our country. It captures all the American people's anger and frustration not only with illegal immigration, but! With the economy," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus and an architect of the Democratic congressional victories of 2006. "It's self-evident. This is a big problem." The DREAM Act bill that is one hour from a senate vote is totally an outrage from the American people. Our Capitol Hill Team is hearing from fence-sitting Senators that the argument that is moving those most toward voting YES on the DREAM Act amnesty is that it would give an amnesty to "only 60,000 kids a year is a joke." DREAM Act Offers Amnesty to 2.1 Million New Estimate Shows Another 1.4 Million Family Members Could Also Stay WASHINGTON (October 23, 2007) The Senate is currently considering the DREAM Act (S.2205). Some have argued that only 60,000 illegal immigrants would be granted amnesty annually under the Act, but a new analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies of 2007 Census Bureau data shows millions of potential beneficiaries. • An estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants under age 17 have been here long enough to qualify for legalization under the DREAM Act. There are a total of 1.7 million illegal aliens estimated to be under age 18. • There are an estimated 900,000 parents of illegal aliens under age 18 who qualify. It is unclear whether the government would deport these parents. • The DREAM Act is also unclear as to what will happen to the siblings of legalized illegals who are themselves illegal, but do not meet the Act s requirements. There are an estimated 500,000 such children. • The DREAM Act also allows illegal aliens ages 18 to 29 to legalize if they claim to have ! arrived prior to age 16. We estimate 1.3 million meet this requirement. There are a total of 4.4 million illegal aliens in this age group. • Thus the total number of potential amnesty beneficiaries is 2.1 million (assuming no fraud). This does not include 1.4 million siblings and parents of qualifying illegals who may end up receiving a de facto amnesty. • Prior legalization programs have been plagued by fraud. One-fourth (700,000) of those legalized in the 1986 amnesty are estimated to have done so fraudulently. • Given the difficulty in determining whether an applicant meets the DREAM Act s amnesty requirements, coupled with the overworked nature of the immigration bureaucracy, fraud could be a significant problem. THESE DEMOCRATIC SENATORS ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR Baucus (D-MT); Biden (D-DE); Durbin (D-IL); Harkin (D-IA); Johnson (D-SD); Kerry (D-MA;) Landrieu (D-LA) Lautenberg (D-NJ); Levin (D-MI); Reed (D-RI); Pryor (D-AR); Rockefeller (D-WV). "This issue has real implications for our country. It captures all the American people's anger and frustration not only with illegal immigration, but! With the economy," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), chairman of the House Democratic Caucus and an architect of the Democratic congressional victories of 2006. "It's self-evident. This is a big problem." The DREAM Act bill that is one hour from a senate vote is totally an outrage from the American people. Our Capitol Hill Team is hearing from fence-sitting Senators that the argument that is moving those most toward voting YES on the DREAM Act amnesty is that it would give an amnesty to "only 60,000 kids a year is a joke."

DREAM Act Offers Amnesty to 2.1 Million
New Estimate Shows Another 1.4 Million Family Members Could Also Stay

WASHINGTON (October 23, 2007) The Senate is currently considering the DREAM Act (S.2205). Some have argued that only 60,000 illegal immigrants would be granted amnesty annually under the Act, but a new analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies of 2007 Census Bureau data shows millions of potential beneficiaries.
• An estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants under age 17 have been here long enough to qualify for legalization under the DREAM Act. There are a total of 1.7 million illegal aliens estimated to be under age 18.
• There are an estimated 900,000 parents of illegal aliens under age 18 who qualify. It is unclear whether the government would deport these parents.
• The DREAM Act is also unclear as to what will happen to the siblings of legalized illegals who are themselves illegal, but do not meet the Act s requirements. There are an estimated 500,000 such children.
• The DREAM Act also allows illegal aliens ages 18 to 29 to legalize if they claim to have ! arrived prior to age 16. We estimate 1.3 million meet this requirement. There are a total of 4.4 million illegal aliens in this age group.
• Thus the total number of potential amnesty beneficiaries is 2.1 million (assuming no fraud). This does not include 1.4 million siblings and parents of qualifying illegals who may end up receiving a de facto amnesty.
• Prior legalization programs have been plagued by fraud. One-fourth (700,000) of those legalized in the 1986 amnesty are estimated to have done so fraudulently.
• Given the difficulty in determining whether an applicant meets the DREAM Act s amnesty requirements, coupled with the overworked nature of the immigration bureaucracy, fraud could be a significant problem.

THESE DEMOCRATIC SENATORS ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION NEXT YEAR

Baucus (D-MT); Biden (D-DE); Durbin (D-IL); Harkin (D-IA); Johnson (D-SD); Kerry (D-MA;) Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ); Levin (D-MI); Reed (D-RI); Pryor (D-AR); Rockefeller (D-WV).

]]> By: Otis http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111009 Otis Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:49:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-111009 Let's see, if wood floats and ducks float, if a witch floats, she must be made of wood, or be a duck. Got'a love the knee-jerk nationalistic, xenophobic (look it up), cowboys wait'n for Fred to put on the presidential spurs. Yee-haw! "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." S Lewis. Let's see, if wood floats and ducks float, if a witch floats, she must be made of wood, or be a duck. Got'a love the knee-jerk nationalistic, xenophobic (look it up), cowboys wait'n for Fred to put on the presidential spurs. Yee-haw!
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." S Lewis.

]]> By: RL Dallas TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110891 RL Dallas TX Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:38:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110891 I'll vote for whomever agrees to pack all the illegals up and ship them back to Mexico. I'll even let them borrow my SUV. I'll vote for whomever agrees to pack all the illegals up and ship them back to Mexico. I'll even let them borrow my SUV.

]]> By: jay, Snellville, GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110858 jay, Snellville, GA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:06:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110858 To bad he supports NAFTA, can't really take anyone like that seriously on the immigration debate. To bad he supports NAFTA, can't really take anyone like that seriously on the immigration debate.

]]> By: John, Michigan http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110848 John, Michigan Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:57:13 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110848 I am all for cutting off federal funds to "sanctuary cities" but which candidate will tell me why our existing immigration laws are not being enforced? The president and Congress better quit dreaming and get to work protecting our borders and our citizens. I am all for cutting off federal funds to "sanctuary cities" but which candidate will tell me why our existing immigration laws are not being enforced?
The president and Congress better quit dreaming and get to work protecting our borders and our citizens.

]]> By: Dan (Columbia, MD) http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110782 Dan (Columbia, MD) Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:34:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110782 Fred is right on this issue. Immigration is a great thing and we are a nation built by immigrants. The issue here is ILLEGAL immigration. It's a slap in the face to all immigrants that obeyed the law and did it right. If a city or state is going to break the law then they can suffer the consequences. Withholding federal funds is a start. The federal government also needs to follow up with prosecuting those that are breaking the law and putting this nations security and future at risk! BTW, in case any illegal immigration supporters here want to accuse me of racism save your breath. I'm an AMERICAN whose mother came to the United States LEGALLY and took the time to learn the language and assimilate into AMERICAN culture. Fred is right on this issue.

Immigration is a great thing and we are a nation built by immigrants.

The issue here is ILLEGAL immigration. It's a slap in the face to all immigrants that obeyed the law and did it right.

If a city or state is going to break the law then they can suffer the consequences. Withholding federal funds is a start. The federal government also needs to follow up with prosecuting those that are breaking the law and putting this nations security and future at risk!

BTW, in case any illegal immigration supporters here want to accuse me of racism save your breath. I'm an AMERICAN whose mother came to the United States LEGALLY and took the time to learn the language and assimilate into AMERICAN culture.

]]> By: Dave, Hilo, HI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110755 Dave, Hilo, HI Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:55:10 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110755 And we care what Fred says because...? And we care what Fred says because...?

]]> By: Mike, Atlanta, GA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110679 Mike, Atlanta, GA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 04:38:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110679 Good. I'm glad at least one candidate "gets" it. All the Dems and several of the Republican candidates for Prez are in favor of amnesty. The issue of illegal immigration is THE most important issue to me. The other issues matter very little if we continue to flush our country down the toilet. Good. I'm glad at least one candidate "gets" it. All the Dems and several of the Republican candidates for Prez are in favor of amnesty. The issue of illegal immigration is THE most important issue to me. The other issues matter very little if we continue to flush our country down the toilet.

]]> By: Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110619 Jeff Spangler, Arlington, VA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 02:53:16 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110619 Oh no, Fred, please don't penalize liberal vast-majority Democratic bastions like Arlington County, Virginia for their "inclusive" feel-good policies which explicitly support the hordes of illegals who support the economy. Who will mow the lawns of all the federal officials and lawyers who live out here? Oh no, Fred, please don't penalize liberal vast-majority Democratic bastions like Arlington County, Virginia for their "inclusive" feel-good policies which explicitly support the hordes of illegals who support the economy. Who will mow the lawns of all the federal officials and lawyers who live out here?

]]> By: Tony Antin, Centerville, MA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110525 Tony Antin, Centerville, MA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:48:07 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110525 When are the Republicans going to learn that, as long as there are jobs for them here, people desperate for jobs are going, somehow, to get where the jobs are. Walls don't work without machine guns, and even with them a wall did not work totally in Berlin. It's the same with drugs. We will never keep them out as long as Americans buy them. When are the Republicans going to learn that, as long as there are jobs for them here, people desperate for jobs are going, somehow, to get where the jobs are. Walls don't work without machine guns, and even with them a wall did not work totally in Berlin. It's the same with drugs. We will never keep them out as long as Americans buy them.

]]> By: Pippen, Arlington VA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110513 Pippen, Arlington VA Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:34:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110513 This article seems to relate to a candidate's stance on an issue... hardly appropriate for the CNN Political Ticker. This article seems to relate to a candidate's stance on an issue... hardly appropriate for the CNN Political Ticker.

]]> By: Phyllis http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110452 Phyllis Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:40:02 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110452 I don't particularly like Thompson, but I like his position on immigration. I wish there was a Democrat who would be so bold. I don't particularly like Thompson, but I like his position on immigration.

I wish there was a Democrat who would be so bold.

]]> By: Karen,nj http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110449 Karen,nj Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:38:57 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110449 Federal funds should be cut off from "sanctuary cities". Many people do want that. Now if the Democrats can do that we would start to be moving in the right direction. Federal funds should be cut off from "sanctuary cities". Many people do want that. Now if the Democrats can do that we would start to be moving in the right direction.

]]> By: Justin, Washington DC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110428 Justin, Washington DC Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:24:15 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110428 The fact that there are zero comments attests to how unenthusiastic people feel about Thompson. I can't help but think that his support is going to drop even more dramatically as elections near. The fact that there are zero comments attests to how unenthusiastic people feel about Thompson. I can't help but think that his support is going to drop even more dramatically as elections near.

]]> By: Milo Janus Denmark, NJ http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110411 Milo Janus Denmark, NJ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:15:54 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110411 Thompson is sick of illegal immigrants because they wake him up at 11am when they mow his lawn. Thompson is sick of illegal immigrants because they wake him up at 11am when they mow his lawn.

]]> By: Jo R, Buena Park, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110408 Jo R, Buena Park, CA Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:15:11 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110408 As a Mexican I wish my country was a place where people from different nationalities would want to be but some Americans don't apreciate this reality. As a Mexican I wish my country was a place where people from different nationalities would want to be but some Americans don't apreciate this reality.

]]> By: Theresa Belle Harbor NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110380 Theresa Belle Harbor NY Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:54:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110380 thompson needs to realize we are all immigrants may we never forget our roots how about we treat each with civility thompson needs to realize
we are all immigrants
may we never forget our roots
how about we treat each with civility

]]> By: David, Dallas Tx http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110352 David, Dallas Tx Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:39:00 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/23/thompson-outlines-immigration-plan/#comment-110352 So if New York, for example, didn't crack down on illegal immigrants, it would lose the money it gets from Homeland Security, leaving the city more vulnerable not only to terrorist attacks but opening the door for terrorists to enter the country and thereafter relocate elsewhere. Well, I will concede that Thompson’s plan is a plan of action, which is more than many candidates are willing to offer. It's just a pity the plan’s so ill-conceived. But that's what you get from hardcore political conservatives—-decisions based on ideology, insufficient planning, and insufficient attention to detail or consequences. Just look at Iraq. So if New York, for example, didn't crack down on illegal immigrants, it would lose the money it gets from Homeland Security, leaving the city more vulnerable not only to terrorist attacks but opening the door for terrorists to enter the country and thereafter relocate elsewhere.

Well, I will concede that Thompson’s plan is a plan of action, which is more than many candidates are willing to offer. It's just a pity the plan’s so ill-conceived. But that's what you get from hardcore political conservatives—-decisions based on ideology, insufficient planning, and insufficient attention to detail or consequences.

Just look at Iraq.

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