Comments on: Clinton, Obama react to Iran sanctions http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: MIKE ADKINS,CHARLOTTE,NC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-115162 MIKE ADKINS,CHARLOTTE,NC Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:10:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-115162 the bush administration and especially george w bush are stupid. they attacked the wrong country. afghanistan was the right country to attack but iraq is a farce. saddam was in a box with nowhere to go and posed no seriuos threat. saddam wanted absolute power in iraq and shunned or killed terrorists in his country. there were no wmd's and george w bush used deceit to get his way. now we're in another quagmire like vietnam and can't get out. the real threat is iran and the bush administration has no diplomacy skills at all. it takes a true diplomat to avert war and resolve matters. any idiot can start one. condoleezza rice couldn't negotiate a peace treaty with the amish and all george w bush knows how to do is call names (axis of evil), threaten (currently building 30,000lb bomb) anger other countries (russia and the missle defense shield in europe) and the chinese. if you think we have problems now, wait till the japanese, chinese and indian bill collectors start calling the white house. the bush administration and especially george w bush are stupid. they attacked the wrong country. afghanistan was the right country to attack but iraq is a farce. saddam was in a box with nowhere to go and posed no seriuos threat. saddam wanted absolute power in iraq and shunned or killed terrorists in his country. there were no wmd's and george w bush used deceit to get his way. now we're in another quagmire like vietnam and can't get out. the real threat is iran and the bush administration has no diplomacy skills at all. it takes a true diplomat to avert war and resolve matters. any idiot can start one. condoleezza rice couldn't negotiate a peace treaty with the amish and all george w bush knows how to do is call names (axis of evil), threaten (currently building 30,000lb bomb) anger other countries (russia and the missle defense shield in europe) and the chinese. if you think we have problems now, wait till the japanese, chinese and indian bill collectors start calling the white house.

]]> By: Ann ME http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-115106 Ann ME Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:33:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-115106 Easy, easy girl, whoa there. Don't get excited and break a leg now. Easy, easy girl, whoa there. Don't get excited and break a leg now.

]]> By: dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-114969 dawn -- Gaithersburg, MD. Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:37:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-114969 Sen. Obama opposed the Iraq War Resolution. Good for him; of course, he wasn't in the Senate at the time. As Senator, he fled the Kyl-Lieberman vote to campaign in New Hampshire. Afterwards, he called the Resolution, which does not authorize or even urge the use of force against Iran in Iran, a "blank check" for the President to wage an Iranian War. When he had to put this "blank check" language in writing, he quickly downgraded the Kyl-Lieberman threat to one that raises the "risk of war." Much lamer. Then, Senator Clinton pointed out that he was one of the co-sponsors of S.970, which would, if passed, designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist "organization," similar to Kyl-Lieberman. Sen. Obama responded that what he really objected to was not designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. (How could we so mistake the man?) No, what he really didn't like about Kyl-Lieberman was that it advocated using U.S. forces to combat Iran in IRAQ. So THEN Sen. Clinton was forced to disinter this excerpt from a speech Sen. Obama gave last year, saying: "Such a reduced but active presence [the smaller U.S. troop size in Iraq Sen. Obama was proposing] will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region." Later in the same speech, Sen. Obama added: "Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening." How would he prevent Iranians from doing anything they pleased in Iraq, except through the combat use of the reduced but active troop presence he advocates in the speech? Taken together, H.R. 1400 and this speech represent almost the identical position espoused in Kyl-Lieberman. But with respect to the many different stories Sen. Obama has told about the basis of his opposition to Kyl-Lieberman, it's difficult to tell what his position is, much find a clear difference between his stance and Sen. Clinton's. Sen. Obama opposed the Iraq War Resolution. Good for him; of course, he wasn't in the Senate at the time.

As Senator, he fled the Kyl-Lieberman vote to campaign in New Hampshire. Afterwards, he called the Resolution, which does not authorize or even urge the use of force against Iran in Iran, a "blank check" for the President to wage an Iranian War.

When he had to put this "blank check" language in writing, he quickly downgraded the Kyl-Lieberman threat to one that raises the "risk of war." Much lamer.

Then, Senator Clinton pointed out that he was one of the co-sponsors of S.970, which would, if passed, designate the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist "organization," similar to Kyl-Lieberman.

Sen. Obama responded that what he really objected to was not designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. (How could we so mistake the man?) No, what he really didn't like about Kyl-Lieberman was that it advocated using U.S. forces to combat Iran in IRAQ.

So THEN Sen. Clinton was forced to disinter this excerpt from a speech Sen. Obama gave last year, saying:

"Such a reduced but active presence [the smaller U.S. troop size in Iraq Sen. Obama was proposing] will also send a clear message to hostile countries like Iran and Syria that we intend to remain a key player in this region."

Later in the same speech, Sen. Obama added:

"Make no mistake, if the Iranians and Syrians think they can use Iraq as another Afghanistan or a staging area from which to attack Israel or other countries, they are badly mistaken. It is in our national interest to prevent this from happening."

How would he prevent Iranians from doing anything they pleased in Iraq, except through the combat use of the reduced but active troop presence he advocates in the speech?

Taken together, H.R. 1400 and this speech represent almost the identical position espoused in Kyl-Lieberman. But with respect to the many different stories Sen. Obama has told about the basis of his opposition to Kyl-Lieberman, it's difficult to tell what his position is, much find a clear difference between his stance and Sen. Clinton's.

]]> By: Daniel, NY http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113582 Daniel, NY Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:33:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113582 Given that Obama <a href="http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/10/obama-campaign-hits-clinton-left-and.html" rel="nofollow">cosponsored a very similar amendment</a> than Kyl-Lieberman in April, this all sounds kind of hypocritical to me. Given that Obama cosponsored a very similar amendment than Kyl-Lieberman in April, this all sounds kind of hypocritical to me.

]]> By: Paul C. Palmetto Bay, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113487 Paul C. Palmetto Bay, FL Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:35:06 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113487 It would seem that the Washington commandos are in full swing to justify a war with Iran. Someone tell them that we will need a draft. It would seem that the Washington commandos are in full swing to justify a war with Iran.
Someone tell them that we will need a draft.

]]> By: james,ks,mo http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113475 james,ks,mo Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:24:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113475 Obama, clinton reacts to Iran sanctions, how about that cnn? Obama, clinton reacts to Iran sanctions, how about that cnn?

]]> By: Sarah http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113463 Sarah Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:18:01 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113463 Jim Webb's legislation did not have a co-sponsor for 7 months. As soon as there was public outcry over Hillary's vote, she jumped to co-sponsor Webb. Rather than call Webb and let him know that she would co-sponsor, her campaign issued a press release. Hillary made a bad decision to support Lieberman-Kyl, and now we are moving toward military action with Iran. She just doesn't get it. Jim Webb's legislation did not have a co-sponsor for 7 months. As soon as there was public outcry over Hillary's vote, she jumped to co-sponsor Webb.

Rather than call Webb and let him know that she would co-sponsor, her campaign issued a press release.

Hillary made a bad decision to support Lieberman-Kyl, and now we are moving toward military action with Iran.

She just doesn't get it.

]]> By: Debra http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113442 Debra Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:01:41 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113442 Please don't try to blurr the distinctions between these two candidates on this issue. Hillary Clinton is for war with Iran as she voted for the resolution designating Iran Revolutionary Guard terrorist , Obama is not for war with Iran. He opposed the Resolution and avocates effective diplomacy. Secondly, Clinton is strongly behind the Bush Administration on this sanctions which is completely foolish because it doesnot accomplish anything. That is Oldschool diplomacy. Obama, on the other hand believes more dialogue should have taken place between Iran and US before the sanctions. He also believes that the Iran Revolutional guard is hampering our chances in Iraq but talking with one another could solve this problem. There is a big difference between the two candidates on this issue so don't blurr the lines because you want to deceive the american people. Shame on you CNN. Stop pushing Hillary Clinton as the nominee. Please don't try to blurr the distinctions between these two candidates on this issue.

Hillary Clinton is for war with Iran as she voted for the resolution designating Iran Revolutionary Guard terrorist , Obama is not for war with Iran. He opposed the Resolution and avocates effective diplomacy.

Secondly, Clinton is strongly behind the Bush Administration on this sanctions which is completely foolish because it doesnot accomplish anything. That is Oldschool diplomacy.
Obama, on the other hand believes more dialogue should have taken place between Iran and US before the sanctions. He also believes that the Iran Revolutional guard is hampering our chances in Iraq but talking with one another could solve this problem.

There is a big difference between the two candidates on this issue so don't blurr the lines because you want to deceive the american people. Shame on you CNN. Stop pushing Hillary Clinton as the nominee.

]]> By: Kim, Peabody MA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113438 Kim, Peabody MA Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:59:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113438 Hmm... These are the same two people who want to negotiate with our ENEMIES? Read these Great Articles by Pete Grasso. <b>"Why are we negotiating with the enemy?" http://www.grassoforpresident.com/site/Viewer.aspx?iid=11168&mname=Article&rpid=3861 and... <b>"Putting our Troops at RISK" http://www.grassoforpresident.com/site/Viewer.aspx?iid=11945&mname=Article&rpid=3861 Hmm... These are the same two people who want to negotiate with our ENEMIES?

Read these Great Articles by Pete Grasso.

"Why are we negotiating with the enemy?" http://www.grassoforpresident.com/site/Viewer.aspx?iid=11168&mname=Article&rpid=3861

and...

"Putting our Troops at RISK"
http://www.grassoforpresident.com/site/Viewer.aspx?iid=11945&mname=Article&rpid=3861

]]> By: Karen,nj http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113395 Karen,nj Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:21:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113395 We must not go to war with Iran. That will be the end of the world. No one will live through this. Who do we think we are to tell every one what to do. Who put us in charge of the world. Bush just wants an excuse to fight with Iran, he still wants the oil. He has the world disqusted with us and Russia will get us. The Democrats must stop this madman before it is to late. He will go to war before he is out of office. All those Republicans in the white house are evil, greedy and destructive people who do not care about the common people! We must not go to war with Iran. That will be the end of the world. No one will live through this. Who do we think we are to tell every one what to do. Who put us in charge of the world. Bush just wants an excuse to fight with Iran, he still wants the oil. He has the world disqusted with us and Russia will get us. The Democrats must stop this madman before it is to late. He will go to war before he is out of office. All those Republicans in the white house are evil, greedy and destructive people who do not care about the common people!

]]> By: Lance in Monrovia CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113392 Lance in Monrovia CA Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:19:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/25/clinton-obama-react-to-iran-sanctions/#comment-113392 We are facing the most crucial presidential election of our lives, one where literally the fate of the planet may hang in the balance. Hilary Clinton has distinguished herself both on her vote to go to war in Iraq, as well as her vote last week to give Bush authority to attack Iran's 170,000 strong Republican Guard. Obama has also distinguished himself on this issue. He spoke out against Iraq war in 2002 when it was political suicide to do so, and he spoke out against the Senate Resolution to give Bush authority to attack Iran last week. Can there be a bigger difference between two choices for President? Hilary repeats Bush's rhetoric and soundbites, while Obama sticks to his guns consistantly and truly. Who really reflects real change and a better direction for America. For me, the answer is truly in the following video link. It's probably the fiercest, simplest stated and most compelling comment I've ever seen about why we should be worried about another dynasty in the White House. It's funny, tasteful, and two minutes of your day. Here's the link; http://youtube.com/watch?v=5c0eLVYbnI4 We are facing the most crucial presidential election of our lives, one where literally the fate of the planet may hang in the balance.

Hilary Clinton has distinguished herself both on her vote to go to war in Iraq, as well as her vote last week to give Bush authority to attack Iran's 170,000 strong Republican Guard.

Obama has also distinguished himself on this issue. He spoke out against Iraq war in 2002 when it was political suicide to do so, and he spoke out against the Senate Resolution to give Bush authority to attack Iran last week.

Can there be a bigger difference between two choices for President?

Hilary repeats Bush's rhetoric and soundbites, while Obama sticks to his guns consistantly and truly.

Who really reflects real change and a better direction for America.

For me, the answer is truly in the following video link. It's probably the fiercest, simplest stated and most compelling comment I've ever seen about why we should be worried about another dynasty in the White House.

It's funny, tasteful, and two minutes of your day. Here's the link; http://youtube.com/watch?v=5c0eLVYbnI4

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