Comments on: Gospel concert controversy tests Obama's message http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/ All politics, all the time Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:07:36 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: David, Brooklyn New York http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-116740 David, Brooklyn New York Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:49:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-116740 OBAMA, WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! DO YOU KNOW WHY?? DESPITE THE MEDIA'S NEGATIVE PUSH ON OBAMA, THE PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE SAME "GOOD OL BOY" POLITICS. AND WILL COME OUT AND VOTE. I PERSONALLY KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT VOTED IN THE PAST AND NOW WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA. HE SEEMS TO REPRESENT REAL POSITIVE CHANGE,AND WILL CHALLENGE THE WAYS OF THE WASHINGTON MACHINE.***MONEY WILL NO LONGER RULE**** THE PEOPLE WILL RULE**** IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE!!!! AMEN OBAMA, WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
DO YOU KNOW WHY??
DESPITE THE MEDIA'S NEGATIVE PUSH ON OBAMA,
THE PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE SAME "GOOD OL BOY" POLITICS. AND WILL COME OUT AND VOTE. I PERSONALLY KNOW MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT VOTED IN THE PAST AND NOW WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA.
HE SEEMS TO REPRESENT REAL POSITIVE CHANGE,AND WILL CHALLENGE THE WAYS OF THE WASHINGTON MACHINE.***MONEY WILL NO LONGER RULE**** THE PEOPLE WILL RULE**** IT'S TIME FOR CHANGE!!!! AMEN

]]> By: Bob Columbia, SC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115985 Bob Columbia, SC Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:46:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115985 As a gay citizen in SC, I completely understand the outrage. I also can seperate Obama's views. I wish he would have made a differant decision, but that comes with experiance he lacks. The real problem in this state is that the African American churches refuse to even deal with the subject, preferring to keep it in the closet. The African American church is full of scared closet cases, some of which, lead the congragation's they so wish to control on this subject. SC has a large gay and lesbian population and its equal among black and whites. The problem we see here is that this only helps the church deny this exist, and this has and continues to cause much pain for gays who happen to be African American. Its sad that only a few will turn out to oppose this, but this is still the south. The South Carolina Gay and Lesbian Pride Movement is not protesting Obama, who has been more than open to this state. SCGLPM is making a statement, that these practices need to change. I am proud of Andy Sidden. He is in a tough spot today, but he is one of our greatest friends. People, please try and seek out what the real story is here. As a gay citizen in SC, I completely understand the outrage. I also can seperate Obama's views. I wish he would have made a differant decision, but that comes with experiance he lacks. The real problem in this state is that the African American churches refuse to even deal with the subject, preferring to keep it in the closet. The African American church is full of scared closet cases, some of which, lead the congragation's they so wish to control on this subject. SC has a large gay and lesbian population and its equal among black and whites. The problem we see here is that this only helps the church deny this exist, and this has and continues to cause much pain for gays who happen to be African American. Its sad that only a few will turn out to oppose this, but this is still the south. The South Carolina Gay and Lesbian Pride Movement is not protesting Obama, who has been more than open to this state. SCGLPM is making a statement, that these practices need to change. I am proud of Andy Sidden. He is in a tough spot today, but he is one of our greatest friends. People, please try and seek out what the real story is here.

]]> By: Donna D http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115740 Donna D Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:29:22 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115740 Seems we need to deal with real issues. Abortion and Gay issues are there but should not be political. Obama it seems to me is fair and unbiased and not yet 'bought up' by the special interests. This country NEEDS a change -- he is biracial in background -- is a shame people still judge based on color -- we should be ELECTING a president based on INTELLIGENCE FAIRNESS and ability to NOT BE BOUGHT .... wake up America... Hillary said she would 'be big businesses best friend" don't think we need that attitude continuing...do we? Seems we need to deal with real issues. Abortion and Gay issues are there but should not be political. Obama it seems to me is fair and unbiased and not yet 'bought up' by the special interests. This country NEEDS a change - he is biracial in background - is a shame people still judge based on color - we should be ELECTING a president based on INTELLIGENCE FAIRNESS and ability to NOT BE BOUGHT .... wake up America... Hillary said she would 'be big businesses best friend" don't think we need that attitude continuing...do we?

]]> By: hdog http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115592 hdog Sun, 28 Oct 2007 00:02:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115592 Why are gays so afraid of the truth? There has never been anything beyond grade B science trying to convince us all that there's just nothing to be done to change. There are thousands to tell us first hand otherwise, but naturally, they're censored. Gays, it's a choice, so get over it. You've got the whole world of liberalism eating out your hand, so what are you worried about? Why are gays so afraid of the truth? There has never been anything beyond grade B science trying to convince us all that there's just nothing to be done to change. There are thousands to tell us first hand otherwise, but naturally, they're censored.

Gays, it's a choice, so get over it. You've got the whole world of liberalism eating out your hand, so what are you worried about?

]]> By: Greg, Barrington, IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115571 Greg, Barrington, IL Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:26:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115571 Greetings CNN! It is a shame that because of the (perfectly essential) need of the gay community to address any and every perceived attack on the right of gay men and women to exist in a modern world, without being victimized by old world ignorance and hatred, that sometimes the criticism falls the hardest on people that would be the most advantagous to their cause. Mr. Obama has chosen a particular direction to most successfully communicate with a specific block of voters (under-privilaged and under-educated African Americans) who's most desperate hope lies in faith, religion, and a belief in eventual deliverance from the type of society that was forced upon them. Unfortunately, the cornerstone of their faith also happens to sometimes be rooted in intolerance, bigatry and ignorance itself. Suggestion to the gay community: see the man for what he is... One of your greatest friends! Greetings CNN! It is a shame that because of the (perfectly essential) need of the gay community to address any and every perceived attack on the right of gay men and women to exist in a modern world, without being victimized by old world ignorance and hatred, that sometimes the criticism falls the hardest on people that would be the most advantagous to their cause. Mr. Obama has chosen a particular direction to most successfully communicate with a specific block of voters (under-privilaged and under-educated African Americans) who's most desperate hope lies in faith, religion, and a belief in eventual deliverance from the type of society that was forced upon them. Unfortunately, the cornerstone of their faith also happens to sometimes be rooted in intolerance, bigatry and ignorance itself. Suggestion to the gay community: see the man for what he is... One of your greatest friends!

]]> By: Colleen,ny http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115553 Colleen,ny Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:00:43 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115553 OK, how did you know one was a minature poodle? OK, how did you know one was a minature poodle?

]]> By: Stupid http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115507 Stupid Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:39:35 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115507 At least when you protested with the "doc" you knew which end was up. I do not know "which" end is up. Thank you. At least when you protested with the "doc" you knew which end was up. I do not know "which" end is up. Thank you.

]]> By: Joeley Reno, Nevada http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115454 Joeley Reno, Nevada Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:27:25 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115454 Obama is a good man but he's not ready YET to be President. It's great to have new ideas and a new and positive approach but not in 2008. The world is more dangerous today than ever in our history. We need strength,capability, knowledge of the process and environment (Washington and the Congress). Our next President must be stedfast in her determination to return this country to it's rightful stature in worlds affairs. Back to a place where our leaders are respected rather than loathed or laughable. A place where we are the example of an open and democratic government representative of equality, justice and 'the American way'. It's time for Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton is the candidate with the strength and determination to successfully navigate the dangerous neo-conistic rhetoric of the past and present and once again make America the Lighthouse to the World. She will be a great world leader. Obama is a good man but he's not ready YET to be President.

It's great to have new ideas and a new and positive approach but not in 2008.

The world is more dangerous today than ever in our history.

We need strength,capability, knowledge of the process and environment (Washington and the Congress).

Our next President must be stedfast in her determination to return this country to it's rightful stature in worlds affairs. Back to a place where our leaders are respected rather than loathed or laughable. A place where we are the example of an open and democratic government representative of equality, justice and 'the American way'.

It's time for Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton is the candidate with the strength and determination to successfully navigate the dangerous neo-conistic rhetoric of the past and present and once again make America the Lighthouse to the World.

She will be a great world leader.

]]> By: Steven in Charleston http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115371 Steven in Charleston Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:41:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115371 I am just amazed at how many people on here seem to believe that Donnie McClurkin's appearance on the same stage as Senator Obama is no big deal because whether being gay is a choice or not is simply "a matter of opinion." No, it's not. Not everything can be considered just opinion. There may be some people on this planet who still believe the earth is flat. That is not having an "opinion,' that is being WRONG. It is no different here. Being gay is not a choice, no matter how much some people wish to make it so. How do I know? Because I am gay, and it is not something I ever chose. And to suggest that you somehow know more about MY life than I do, is either silly, stupid, or arrogant -- take your pick. The only choice I got to make was the same one Donnie McClurkin got -- whether or not to embrace and celebrate who I was, or whether to deny my true nature. He and I obviously made very different choices. To all of you stating that McClurkin's place on the stage is no big deal, you reveal your own discomfort with homosexuality and equality with your dismissal. I can't believe you would be as cavalier were the person in question someone who advocated "White Power" or making abortion a crime or believed that women were second class citizens. I respect diversity. But I am tired of being told that I need to "respect the opinion" of people who wish to marginalize me, discriminate against me, fire me, kick me out of home, rail against me, tell lies about me, pretend that my relationships aren't real, and eventually beat me and even kill me. Those opinions aren't "diversity" and making allowances for them isn't tolerance, it is stupidity and self-destruction. I am just amazed at how many people on here seem to believe that Donnie McClurkin's appearance on the same stage as Senator Obama is no big deal because whether being gay is a choice or not is simply "a matter of opinion."

No, it's not.

Not everything can be considered just opinion.

There may be some people on this planet who still believe the earth is flat. That is not having an "opinion,' that is being WRONG.

It is no different here. Being gay is not a choice, no matter how much some people wish to make it so. How do I know? Because I am gay, and it is not something I ever chose. And to suggest that you somehow know more about MY life than I do, is either silly, stupid, or arrogant - take your pick.

The only choice I got to make was the same one Donnie McClurkin got - whether or not to embrace and celebrate who I was, or whether to deny my true nature. He and I obviously made very different choices.

To all of you stating that McClurkin's place on the stage is no big deal, you reveal your own discomfort with homosexuality and equality with your dismissal. I can't believe you would be as cavalier were the person in question someone who advocated "White Power" or making abortion a crime or believed that women were second class citizens.

I respect diversity. But I am tired of being told that I need to "respect the opinion" of people who wish to marginalize me, discriminate against me, fire me, kick me out of home, rail against me, tell lies about me, pretend that my relationships aren't real, and eventually beat me and even kill me. Those opinions aren't "diversity" and making allowances for them isn't tolerance, it is stupidity and self-destruction.

]]> By: JB Hull, IA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115327 JB Hull, IA Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:36:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115327 I'm sorry, but I don't see why this should be controversial. The man is not being hired to make policy decisions, he's being hired to sing. I'm sorry, but I don't see why this should be controversial. The man is not being hired to make policy decisions, he's being hired to sing.

]]> By: Eli, Indianapolis, Indiana http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115302 Eli, Indianapolis, Indiana Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:57:38 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115302 The fact of life is that everything we do is choice. Doctors say that alcholics are born with a tendency to become alcholic. If that person starts to drink and becomes and alcholic, that is there fault not there bodies fault, they chose to drink. If they break the law for public intox, or get a dui, do we let them off the hook because they have an alcholic tendency? No, they chose the actions they took. People now say that being gay is a tendency they are born with. This is the exact same thing as alcholics, you have a choice on weather to act on this tendency. It says in the Bible as plain as day that a man should be with a woman period, that's it. It says love the sinner and not the sin. I have several really good frinds who are gay, they all know that I think that it is wrong and that I really dislike the fact that they are gay, but does that stop me from being a good friend? No, love the sinner not the sin. How can someone be a leader of a church while living in sin? We all sin, we all make mistakes, so therefor we all are hypocrites because we critisize each other while we have our own problems. But just because we do sin, does not give anyone the right to live in sin, God ask everyone to live as honestly and moraly right as we can, but to not live in sin. Show me one religion in the world that says it is ok to be gay. There is none. Finally Obama's idea to add the openly gay pastor proves two things. He is afraid to stand by his own opinion and just feeds off what makes him look good. And that this "man of faith" truly does not know what the Bible says by allowing this. Why would anyone want to vote for a man who can't even stand by his own opinions and thougths in the primary's? Also why are the people in the Christian faith, the people he is trying to prove something too with these concerts (or any other religion for that matter), want to vote for someone, who is now promoting something that in the Bible is as clear as black and white, that this lifestyle is wrong? The fact of life is that everything we do is choice. Doctors say that alcholics are born with a tendency to become alcholic. If that person starts to drink and becomes and alcholic, that is there fault not there bodies fault, they chose to drink. If they break the law for public intox, or get a dui, do we let them off the hook because they have an alcholic tendency? No, they chose the actions they took. People now say that being gay is a tendency they are born with. This is the exact same thing as alcholics, you have a choice on weather to act on this tendency. It says in the Bible as plain as day that a man should be with a woman period, that's it. It says love the sinner and not the sin. I have several really good frinds who are gay, they all know that I think that it is wrong and that I really dislike the fact that they are gay, but does that stop me from being a good friend? No, love the sinner not the sin. How can someone be a leader of a church while living in sin? We all sin, we all make mistakes, so therefor we all are hypocrites because we critisize each other while we have our own problems. But just because we do sin, does not give anyone the right to live in sin, God ask everyone to live as honestly and moraly right as we can, but to not live in sin. Show me one religion in the world that says it is ok to be gay. There is none. Finally Obama's idea to add the openly gay pastor proves two things. He is afraid to stand by his own opinion and just feeds off what makes him look good. And that this "man of faith" truly does not know what the Bible says by allowing this. Why would anyone want to vote for a man who can't even stand by his own opinions and thougths in the primary's? Also why are the people in the Christian faith, the people he is trying to prove something too with these concerts (or any other religion for that matter), want to vote for someone, who is now promoting something that in the Bible is as clear as black and white, that this lifestyle is wrong?

]]> By: Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115203 Kyu Reisch, Radcliff, Kentucky Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:30:37 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115203 Obama tried too many ways without solid political view, I am fresh and new face also change the Country without idea, dirty games for campaign, I am God, Joshua and JFK, used wife's sharp tongue(failed), grabbed Oprah's purse, black people will vote me, use churches, preaching, stop wearing flag pin, not place his hand over his heart with the Pledge of Allegiance to flag(dangerous leader), skipped important AARP Debate as Presidential candidate, no vote for RGTO, then too many excuses, what is next? I vote Hillary no matter what Obama says. Obama tried too many ways without solid political view, I am fresh and new face also change the Country without idea, dirty games for campaign, I am God, Joshua and JFK,
used wife's sharp tongue(failed), grabbed Oprah's purse, black people will vote me, use churches, preaching, stop wearing flag pin, not place his hand over his heart with the Pledge of Allegiance to flag(dangerous leader), skipped important AARP Debate as Presidential candidate, no vote for RGTO, then too many excuses, what is next? I vote Hillary no matter what Obama says.

]]> By: Dave, Cheverly, MD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115168 Dave, Cheverly, MD Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:24:44 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115168 To Tony, Tulsa, OK You said “Ignorant, self-loathing hate from McClurkin is not just another idea to be considered. It's an idea we are actively fighting to destroy.” Look when African Americans went to JENA LA to rally. They had folks, who were Gay, folks who hated Gays etc. But the Rally was NOT about the GAYS. Obama event is NOT about Gays. That is exactly the TOLORENCE I was speaking of. This is about a man that is running for The Presidency of The United States. Obama is hosting the event for THAT purpose. Obama has invited ALL to come participate. Obama did Not UNINVITE the LGBT Community to participate. NOR should he UNINVITE Donnie McClurkin. Why don’t ALL just go to the event and show that you are no different, cannot change who you are etc. That way people come together and maybe learn something from each other. To Tony, Tulsa, OK

You said “Ignorant, self-loathing hate from McClurkin is not just another idea to be considered. It's an idea we are actively fighting to destroy.”

Look when African Americans went to JENA LA to rally. They had folks, who were Gay, folks who hated Gays etc. But the Rally was NOT about the GAYS. Obama event is NOT about Gays.
That is exactly the TOLORENCE I was speaking of. This is about a man that is running for The Presidency of The United States. Obama is hosting the event for THAT purpose.

Obama has invited ALL to come participate. Obama did Not UNINVITE the LGBT Community to participate. NOR should he UNINVITE Donnie McClurkin. Why don’t ALL just go to the event and show that you are no different, cannot change who you are etc. That way people come together and maybe learn something from each other.

]]> By: Dave, Cheverly, MD http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115104 Dave, Cheverly, MD Sat, 27 Oct 2007 06:30:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115104 Listen up folks! You can please Some of the people Some of the time, but you can’t please ALL of the people All of the time”. Obama is CORRECT in attempting to allow his event to bring folks who do not think the same way on a top. To the LGBT Community. There is a time to fight issues, BUT this is not the time. This is an opportunity for the LGBT Community to practice what IT Preaches, TOLERANCE for individuals who have different views. The LGBT Community cannot require other Groups, Political Parties or individuals to allow the LGBT Community to have a seat at the table. But yet the LGBT Community wishes to deny others that same right. ALL should go and maybe get something spiritual and positive out of the event. Listen up folks!

You can please Some of the people Some of the time, but you can’t please ALL of the people All of the time”. Obama is CORRECT in attempting to allow his event to bring folks who do not think the same way on a top. To the LGBT Community. There is a time to fight issues, BUT this is not the time. This is an opportunity for the LGBT Community to practice what IT Preaches, TOLERANCE for individuals who have different views. The LGBT Community cannot require other Groups, Political Parties or individuals to allow the LGBT Community to have a seat at the table. But yet the LGBT Community wishes to deny others that same right. ALL should go and maybe get something spiritual and positive out of the event.

]]> By: Jake, San Diego CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115057 Jake, San Diego CA Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:56:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115057 If you were an Obama supporter and decided that you will not support him any longer because of this then you really didn't support his politics of change and hope in the first place. Obama has said many times that he wants to unite the country, why does there have to be two sides and no middle ground. Divisive politics is what is wrong in America. Obama tries to bring people together and find that middle ground and I find that refreshing in a political candidate. Now as far as the original article personally I am not gay, but I do believe being gay is not a choice but something you just are. Just like how a straight person is attracted to a certain type of person from the opposite sex, it's not because you decided "hey that's what I'll be attracted to" you just are, and I feel the same could be said to anyone who just happens to be attracted to people of the same sex. Just my opinion though. If you were an Obama supporter and decided that you will not support him any longer because of this then you really didn't support his politics of change and hope in the first place.

Obama has said many times that he wants to unite the country, why does there have to be two sides and no middle ground. Divisive politics is what is wrong in America. Obama tries to bring people together and find that middle ground and I find that refreshing in a political candidate.

Now as far as the original article personally I am not gay, but I do believe being gay is not a choice but something you just are.

Just like how a straight person is attracted to a certain type of person from the opposite sex, it's not because you decided "hey that's what I'll be attracted to" you just are, and I feel the same could be said to anyone who just happens to be attracted to people of the same sex.

Just my opinion though.

]]> By: anonymous, ny http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115053 anonymous, ny Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:52:56 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115053 terrance does have a point that we just need to get someone new i the white house. Well that won't be hard, since geroge bush isn't running again. maybe people will just wake up and feel better when a new face is around there terrance does have a point that we just need to get someone new i the white house. Well that won't be hard, since geroge bush isn't running again. maybe people will just wake up and feel better when a new face is around there

]]> By: karen, nj http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115052 karen, nj Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:50:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115052 obama has a right to have anyone he wants included in his campaign. why can't he be inclusive and tolerant of MR Mrclurkin? on the other hand , this does feed into obama's image as wanting to be all things to all people by not standing for anything, he even missed an iran vote recently so as not to ruffles any feathers. anyone who votes for him = fools obama has a right to have anyone he wants included in his campaign. why can't he be inclusive and tolerant of MR Mrclurkin? on the other hand , this does feed into obama's image as wanting to be all things to all people by not standing for anything, he even missed an iran vote recently so as not to ruffles any feathers.

anyone who votes for him = fools

]]> By: john http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115011 john Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:47:29 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-115011 a politician steered the wrong way,especially against the gays,and war hes wrong on his judgement he has none,Obama was against the war before Congress authorized the use of military force in Iraq in 2002, but said, "He voted over and over again to fund the war." He then continued, "If you really oppose something, do you fund it? He cannot square that. And he'll never be able to square it, and this is the difficulty he has with his candidacy."so quit bashing hillary ,you lost your votes to many, steering to gopsel, instead of the future..some hypocrite,bigot.and now he has lotts of donors giving money to him under 10 years old.lots of BS from him.your not god,think it went to his head all this president stuff. a politician steered the wrong way,especially against the gays,and war hes wrong on his judgement he has none,Obama was against the war before Congress authorized the use of military force in Iraq in 2002, but said, "He voted over and over again to fund the war." He then continued, "If you really oppose something, do you fund it? He cannot square that. And he'll never be able to square it, and this is the difficulty he has with his candidacy."so quit bashing hillary ,you lost your votes to many, steering to gopsel, instead of the future..some hypocrite,bigot.and now he has lotts of donors giving money to him under 10 years old.lots of BS from him.your not god,think it went to his head all this president stuff.

]]> By: blackforHillary http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114932 blackforHillary Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:47:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114932 Obama flops and flips and flops again. Now Obama is “Blaming the Staff” again. Earlier he said it was good outreach, now its back to vetting excuses, or is it still an outreach to bigots campaign strategy? The Advocate’s Kerry Eleveld has an exclusive Obama interview, in which he says gospel singer Donnie McClurkin was “not vetted as well as I would have liked to see,” but defends keeping him on the gospel tour. still reaching out to be a Bigot Obama on this kick with church and gospel gays.not very good judgement i'd say,desperate for votes hes losing,hes really losing it.why to extremes to go this route.this explains it totally.i dont want him in the white house.kinda of scary actually. Obama flops and flips and flops again. Now Obama is “Blaming the Staff” again. Earlier he said it was good outreach, now its back to vetting excuses, or is it still an outreach to bigots campaign strategy?

The Advocate’s Kerry Eleveld has an exclusive Obama interview, in which he says gospel singer Donnie McClurkin was “not vetted as well as I would have liked to see,” but defends keeping him on the gospel tour.

still reaching out to be a Bigot Obama
on this kick with church and gospel gays.not very good judgement i'd say,desperate for votes hes losing,hes really losing it.why to extremes to go this route.this explains it totally.i dont want him in the white house.kinda of scary actually.

]]> By: shannon http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114911 shannon Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:24:08 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114911 Mr. Obama stands accused of trying to win the support of socially conservative evangelical Christian African-Americans, who make up half of the registered Democratic voters in the early voting state of South Carolina, at the expense of gays. Obama’s failed leadership skills are on full failure display. I have lost interest in Obama totally. this is no Politics of Hope,its for votes.Remember that gays at the voting booths.mine will go to Hillary all the way!!! Mr. Obama stands accused of trying to win the support of socially conservative evangelical Christian African-Americans, who make up half of the registered Democratic voters in the early voting state of South Carolina, at the expense of gays.

Obama’s failed leadership skills are on full failure display.

I have lost interest in Obama totally.
this is no Politics of Hope,its for votes.Remember that gays at the voting booths.mine will go to Hillary all the way!!!

]]> By: Michelle, Panama City, FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114896 Michelle, Panama City, FL Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:15:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114896 It is hard for a person running President of the United States to be themselves. I believe that Obama is doing what he "feels" will get him votes just like everyone else running, however he shouldn't compromise his faith. It is hard for a person running President of the United States to be themselves. I believe that Obama is doing what he "feels" will get him votes just like everyone else running, however he shouldn't compromise his faith.

]]> By: donnie http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114884 donnie Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:04:14 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114884 this crap should not be in a Presidential Campaign,Bigot is a bigot,Obama engaging,hes not truthful in what he believes in,,and this shows it truly.this speaks for the people who are gay there jumping ship to Hillary. this crap should not be in a Presidential Campaign,Bigot is a bigot,Obama engaging,hes not truthful in what he believes in,,and this shows it truly.this speaks for the people who are gay there jumping ship to Hillary.

]]> By: reading between the lines http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114843 reading between the lines Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:32:00 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114843 I trust Senator Obama's judgment. One may not agree with everything this man does (believe it or not) but trust is the crucial key. I trust Senator Obama's judgment.

One may not agree with everything this man does (believe it or not) but trust is the crucial key.

]]> By: donna http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114834 donna Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:26:09 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114834 If you want to understand what this is sham of a controversy is really all about please check out these links: Liberal Bloggers, Donnie McClurkin, and Barack Obama’s “Rick Warren Moment” http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/liberal-bloggers-donnie-mcclurkin-and-barack-obamas-rick-warren-moment/ and this: Hillary Clinton Campaign Pushed Donnie McClurkin/Obama Controversy http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/hillary-clinton-campaign-pushed-donnie-mcclurkinobama-controversy/ If you want to understand what this is sham of a controversy is really all about please check out these links:

Liberal Bloggers, Donnie McClurkin, and Barack Obama’s “Rick Warren Moment”

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/liberal-bloggers-donnie-mcclurkin-and-barack-obamas-rick-warren-moment/

and this:

Hillary Clinton Campaign Pushed Donnie McClurkin/Obama Controversy

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/26/hillary-clinton-campaign-pushed-donnie-mcclurkinobama-controversy/

]]> By: doc75, Lees Summit, MO http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114742 doc75, Lees Summit, MO Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:12:28 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114742 It's a shame that we can't agree to disagree on this subject. Calling African-American Christians bigots is appalling. Can't people just disagree without name calling? Why is it necessary for verbal bludgeoning? It seems the intent of the name calling to force African-American Christians to say, "Well, I believe that the Bible is true, but I don't want to be called a bigot so I won't tell people what God says about homosexuality." And therefore they are now forced into a closet. Good grief. Fine, let gays get married and let Christians believe it's immoral. There are far, far more important things in life than this. It's a shame that we can't agree to disagree on this subject. Calling African-American Christians bigots is appalling. Can't people just disagree without name calling? Why is it necessary for verbal bludgeoning? It seems the intent of the name calling to force African-American Christians to say, "Well, I believe that the Bible is true, but I don't want to be called a bigot so I won't tell people what God says about homosexuality." And therefore they are now forced into a closet. Good grief. Fine, let gays get married and let Christians believe it's immoral. There are far, far more important things in life than this.

]]> By: james,nyc,ny http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114732 james,nyc,ny Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:03:27 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114732 I am an African American and I am gonna vote for Obama no matter what other African Americans think or do! I am an African American and I am gonna vote for Obama no matter what other African Americans think or do!

]]> By: Paul, Dearborn MI http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114713 Paul, Dearborn MI Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:51:22 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114713 This COUNTRY Needs to REPENT. We are on the eve of Judgment. The faithful MUST take action now. http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewpoetry.asp?AuthorID=44353&id=205017 This COUNTRY Needs to REPENT. We are on the eve of Judgment. The faithful MUST take action now.

http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewpoetry.asp?AuthorID=44353&id=205017

]]> By: Marque http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114683 Marque Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:31:49 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114683 CNN is Hillary's mouthpiece. CNN is Hillary's campaign partner. CNN is no news outlet for the independent minded voters. CNN's new name is Hillary News Network ie HNN. So HNN has no good news for Obama, Edward, Kucinich, Dodd, and Biden. Good for you HNN. CNN is Hillary's mouthpiece. CNN is Hillary's campaign partner. CNN is no news outlet for the independent minded voters. CNN's new name is Hillary News Network ie HNN. So HNN has no good news for Obama, Edward, Kucinich, Dodd, and Biden. Good for you HNN.

]]> By: jane,ks,mo http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114682 jane,ks,mo Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:31:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114682 Ya ticker, We know you could have put more better stuff like this. How about this, Obama touted 10k people in boston commons on tuesday! Ya ticker, We know you could have put more better stuff like this. How about this, Obama touted 10k people in boston commons on tuesday!

]]> By: Mark R. Fort Lauderdale FL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114631 Mark R. Fort Lauderdale FL Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:02:33 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114631 McClurkin has no place in your campaign senator. This is yet another sign of your hypocrisy. You are turning out to be quite a disappointment; just another politician trying to have it both ways. McClurkin has no place in your campaign senator. This is yet another sign of your hypocrisy. You are turning out to be quite a disappointment; just another politician trying to have it both ways.

]]> By: Bob London, UK http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114615 Bob London, UK Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:54:42 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114615 Christians what a joke. These people today that call themselves Christian are nothing but Nazi's. History keeps repeating itself and no one seems to care. Remeber Hitler. God Forgive America as they are using your name in vain. Christians what a joke. These people today that call themselves Christian are nothing but Nazi's. History keeps repeating itself and no one seems to care. Remeber Hitler. God Forgive America as they are using your name in vain.

]]> By: Neill C., Montgomery, Al http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114611 Neill C., Montgomery, Al Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:53:40 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114611 Wow, and I thought liberals and Democrats wanted separation of church and state. I guess only if it is a Republican. Wow, and I thought liberals and Democrats wanted separation of church and state. I guess only if it is a Republican.

]]> By: Dave, Ks KS http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114606 Dave, Ks KS Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:50:47 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114606 Obama wants Obama's America - He's putting on a horse and pony show is all. Now he's playing for the superstitous crowd. Obama- Osama - all the same. Obama wants Obama's America – He's putting on a horse and pony show is all. Now he's playing for the superstitous crowd. Obama- Osama – all the same.

]]> By: pl. at the UN for a while. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114598 pl. at the UN for a while. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:45:17 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114598 Shame on me, but I am posting again. Someone above stated that Obama is a Muslim in the closet. I disagree...he is clearly out of the closet. By his religious standards he has married rather young. It is not uncommon for Muslim men to marry closer to forty...to girls of fourteen. And for "Westerners": are you aware of the issue of the "boys"? and their place in society? You don't know. I see. Well, boys, mostly pubescent of course, get their sphyncters blown up and their colons stretched to the braking point. Pssst, with the blessing of the families; Ouch. That does not count as gay, even the Prez of Iran will tell you so. Being gay is departing from normative behaviour. These "boys", on the contrary, fulfill normative behaviour, and all wrongs get righted. Shame on me, but I am posting again.
Someone above stated that Obama is a Muslim in the closet. I disagree...he is clearly out of the closet.
By his religious standards he has married rather young.
It is not uncommon for Muslim men to marry closer to forty...to girls of fourteen.
And for "Westerners": are you aware of the issue of the "boys"? and their place in society?
You don't know. I see. Well, boys, mostly pubescent of course, get their sphyncters blown up and their colons stretched to the braking point. Pssst, with the blessing of the families; Ouch.
That does not count as gay, even the Prez of Iran will tell you so.
Being gay is departing from normative behaviour. These "boys", on the contrary, fulfill normative behaviour, and all wrongs get righted.

]]> By: Chris Walker, Salt Lake City, UT http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114587 Chris Walker, Salt Lake City, UT Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:36:50 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114587 Ya totally!! White, traditional politicians are the only way to go! I'm so glad we keep electing people like Bush and Reagan who have managed budgets before! At least they have experience funneling funds into their friends' businesses. And Bush was obviously elected for his abilities, not his every-man charisma and rehearsed speech-slips. Politicians primarily care about the people that paid for their office. Today anyone that becomes president essentially disqualifies themself from having the qualities we all desire in a leader. We DO need change, maybe not from Obama, but maybe so. But then again this is a democracy and most people like you prefer United Stagnation under god. Just wondering, does anyone still believe Bush to be an fundamentally honest person? I'm amazed that even now, in Bush's 'I don't care what you think unless you can encarcerate me' years, that people still think he's honest. Read the news much? Ya totally!! White, traditional politicians are the only way to go! I'm so glad we keep electing people like Bush and Reagan who have managed budgets before! At least they have experience funneling funds into their friends' businesses. And Bush was obviously elected for his abilities, not his every-man charisma and rehearsed speech-slips.

Politicians primarily care about the people that paid for their office. Today anyone that becomes president essentially disqualifies themself from having the qualities we all desire in a leader. We DO need change, maybe not from Obama, but maybe so. But then again this is a democracy and most people like you prefer United Stagnation under god.

Just wondering, does anyone still believe Bush to be an fundamentally honest person? I'm amazed that even now, in Bush's 'I don't care what you think unless you can encarcerate me' years, that people still think he's honest. Read the news much?

]]> By: Dan, TX http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114586 Dan, TX Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:36:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114586 Until now, I've had a hard time deciding between Obama and Hillary. This incident clears up all confusion. I'm 100% behind Obama now! Until now, I've had a hard time deciding between Obama and Hillary. This incident clears up all confusion. I'm 100% behind Obama now!

]]> By: Erik L. San Diego, CA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114584 Erik L. San Diego, CA Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:35:24 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114584 Points 1. Anyone that writes a comment about a candidate other than Mr. Obabma is clearly on the wrong post and did not read the article this is supposed to be a comment on. 2. There are NO scientific studies that PROVE that gayness is not a choice - but why should that matter anyway? I don't go around trying to make my heterosexuality an issue, why is anyone's homosexuality, support of it or non-support of it an issue? 3. Barak, in trying to bring people of disparate viewpoints together, is following in the footsteps of the greatest men and women the world has ever known: Ghandi was reviled for wanting to unite Hindu and Muslim, Mother Teresa didn't refuse to care for anyone based on their caste, religion etc. and Jesus taught us to Love one another - NO MATTER WHAT 4. Life shouldn't be about race, sexual orientation or politics, it's about humanity living together in mutual respect and tolerance - let's all try that and see what happens... Points
1. Anyone that writes a comment about a candidate other than Mr. Obabma is clearly on the wrong post and did not read the article this is supposed to be a comment on.
2. There are NO scientific studies that PROVE that gayness is not a choice – but why should that matter anyway? I don't go around trying to make my heterosexuality an issue, why is anyone's homosexuality, support of it or non-support of it an issue?
3. Barak, in trying to bring people of disparate viewpoints together, is following in the footsteps of the greatest men and women the world has ever known: Ghandi was reviled for wanting to unite Hindu and Muslim, Mother Teresa didn't refuse to care for anyone based on their caste, religion etc. and Jesus taught us to Love one another – NO MATTER WHAT
4. Life shouldn't be about race, sexual orientation or politics, it's about humanity living together in mutual respect and tolerance – let's all try that and see what happens...

]]> By: Lile- Jonesboro, AR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114575 Lile- Jonesboro, AR Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:29:47 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114575 After reading many of the unresearched, unconvicted, overly convicted, uncompromising, and closeminded comments on this page, I am extremely disheartened. This is an example of what the voting pool consists of, so i am afraid that whatever the result, the complete idiots will have won. And incidentally, I am heterosexual and i choose to be this way, even though both my parents were gay. After reading many of the unresearched, unconvicted, overly convicted, uncompromising, and closeminded comments on this page, I am extremely disheartened.

This is an example of what the voting pool consists of, so i am afraid that whatever the result, the complete idiots will have won.

And incidentally, I am heterosexual and i choose to be this way, even though both my parents were gay.

]]> By: Jay, Portland OR http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114550 Jay, Portland OR Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:08:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114550 As I understand it he was asked to attend a religous event -- a gospel concert -- not anything to do with policy, plus censoring someone for their opinions smacks of McCarthyism and is unAmerican. I am gay and so long as Obama is not in advocacy of homophobic policy I don't especially care who he invites where. As I understand it he was asked to attend a religous event - a gospel concert - not anything to do with policy, plus censoring someone for their opinions smacks of McCarthyism and is unAmerican. I am gay and so long as Obama is not in advocacy of homophobic policy I don't especially care who he invites where.

]]> By: Dan, Washington, DC http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114543 Dan, Washington, DC Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:05:36 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114543 To all of the anti-gay religious bigots -- Please do not misunderstand. Gay people LOVE you. And it is because of that love that we have the obligation to point out how your discrimination against God's gay children goes against His Word. It would be impossible for me to reconcile allowing you to continue down your distructive path with my own Christian upbringing. At the end of days, God wants us to walk through the gates together. To all of the anti-gay religious bigots - Please do not misunderstand. Gay people LOVE you. And it is because of that love that we have the obligation to point out how your discrimination against God's gay children goes against His Word. It would be impossible for me to reconcile allowing you to continue down your distructive path with my own Christian upbringing. At the end of days, God wants us to walk through the gates together.

]]> By: Larry B. Orlando Florida http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114542 Larry B. Orlando Florida Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:05:26 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114542 Some people are still having a problem understanding why this is an insult to gay people. This so called "recovered" gay gospel singer sings about homosexuality being a sin and needs to be overcome. The bible is so full of other sins but the one that seems to get so much attention is the Gay issue. It is so obvious that these people are just using the bible to hide behind their own hideous prejudices. Many of the most opposed to gay people are questioning their own sexuality and see something in them that they hate so they project it out on the ones that have had the courage to be who they are and not hide in the closet. We have seen this play out over and over again in the political arena. The US Government also quoted the bible for years to justify slavery. Could you imagine if that was still being done today? However, Gay people are expected to accept ignorant people singing about them sinning for simply being who they are. Gay people can't change their orientation any easier than a black person can change their skin color. What I find interesting is some heterosexuals attempt to tell gay people that they can change. Who says anybody has to change or wants to change if this is truly the "land of the free" as the bible thumping fundamentalist like to brag it is. If that is the case then everyone should have the option of choosing the Gay lifestyle if that is what they want. However, if they insist that one can change their sexual orientation then that means these bible thumping fundamentalist could easily change to be Gay. One day science will prove without a doubt that being Gay is genetic but there will always be narrow minded people that will discriminate against Gay people. We know that having black skin is genetic but it doesn't stop people from discriminating against them. Some people are still having a problem understanding why this is an insult to gay people. This so called "recovered" gay gospel singer sings about homosexuality being a sin and needs to be overcome. The bible is so full of other sins but the one that seems to get so much attention is the Gay issue. It is so obvious that these people are just using the bible to hide behind their own hideous prejudices. Many of the most opposed to gay people are questioning their own sexuality and see something in them that they hate so they project it out on the ones that have had the courage to be who they are and not hide in the closet. We have seen this play out over and over again in the political arena.

The US Government also quoted the bible for years to justify slavery. Could you imagine if that was still being done today? However, Gay people are expected to accept ignorant people singing about them sinning for simply being who they are. Gay people can't change their orientation any easier than a black person can change their skin color. What I find interesting is some heterosexuals attempt to tell gay people that they can change. Who says anybody has to change or wants to change if this is truly the "land of the free" as the bible thumping fundamentalist like to brag it is. If that is the case then everyone should have the option of choosing the Gay lifestyle if that is what they want.

However, if they insist that one can change their sexual orientation then that means these bible thumping fundamentalist could easily change to be Gay. One day science will prove without a doubt that being Gay is genetic but there will always be narrow minded people that will discriminate against Gay people. We know that having black skin is genetic but it doesn't stop people from discriminating against them.

]]> By: Elsa, Houston, Texas http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114540 Elsa, Houston, Texas Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:04:22 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114540 SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!!! I AM HISPANIC, What NEXT: Speech at the FLEA MARKET! SEPARATION BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE!!!!!!! I AM HISPANIC, What NEXT: Speech at the FLEA MARKET!

]]> By: Grace http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114538 Grace Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:03:18 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114538 all of you so-called Gay people and supporters writing on this site that you will not vote for Obama but Hillary don't seem to mind that she celebrated her endorsement by a gay bashing minister who called gays Thieves. Be honest you were voting for her ...as a matter of fact you guys anyway are behind the controversy all of you so-called Gay people and supporters writing on this site that you will not vote for Obama but Hillary don't seem to mind that she celebrated her endorsement by a gay bashing minister who called gays Thieves.

Be honest you were voting for her ...as a matter of fact you guys anyway are behind the controversy

]]> By: American Gothic Philadelphia, PA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114536 American Gothic Philadelphia, PA Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:03:03 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114536 Daniel, you seem to like linking us to all of these "stunning" poll results- how about this one from October of 1999? http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/10/11/poll/ It shows George W Bush leading Al Gore by 19 percentage points. Al Gore eventually won the general popular vote. Daniel, you seem to like linking us to all of these "stunning" poll results-

how about this one from October of 1999?

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/10/11/poll/

It shows George W Bush leading Al Gore by 19 percentage points. Al Gore eventually won the general popular vote.

]]> By: Paulette Tansey, San Diego, Ca. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114530 Paulette Tansey, San Diego, Ca. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:55 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114530 Obama is losing my interest by this pandering to religion. Haven't we had enough of religion in politics?! Is he getting desperate? I want a president to be focused on issues. Separation of church and state, remember? Obama is losing my interest by this pandering to religion. Haven't we had enough of religion in politics?! Is he getting desperate? I want a president to be focused on issues. Separation of church and state, remember?

]]> By: Terrence http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114527 Terrence Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:58:30 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114527 Hey Everyone, all this talk back and forth about who would be the best presidential candidate and most able to perform on the world stage, etc. is truly tired and worthless speculation. In case none of you have noticed, the current group in the White House are not only totally incompetent, they are also evil and have done more to sink our great republic than any succeeding chief executive will ever be able to put right. At this point, a miniature Poodle could handle the office more effectively than the redneck trailor trash rich guys who control it now. Just vote for someone and stop worrying. Hey Everyone, all this talk back and forth about who would be the best presidential candidate and most able to perform on the world stage, etc. is truly tired and worthless speculation. In case none of you have noticed, the current group in the White House are not only totally incompetent, they are also evil and have done more to sink our great republic than any succeeding chief executive will ever be able to put right. At this point, a miniature Poodle could handle the office more effectively than the redneck trailor trash rich guys who control it now. Just vote for someone and stop worrying.

]]> By: Corbett, Seattle WA http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114525 Corbett, Seattle WA Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:57:21 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114525 It doesn't matter if homosexuality is a choice! As members of the civilized world it is our duty to have the maturity to be OK with it. If we can't deal with the possibility of somebody doing something in private then we are not living up to our end of the constitution. I honestly think that Obama is trying to get us to that point. If he is not then its back to Hillary. It doesn't matter if homosexuality is a choice! As members of the civilized world it is our duty to have the maturity to be OK with it. If we can't deal with the possibility of somebody doing something in private then we are not living up to our end of the constitution.

I honestly think that Obama is trying to get us to that point. If he is not then its back to Hillary.

]]> By: pl. at the UN for a while. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114521 pl. at the UN for a while. Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:52:39 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114521 The LGBT community is overwhelmed by passion!? I personally know of many who are forced into a corner by society. The non-LGBT community is also overwhelmed by passion. Of a different kind? Maybe! Many are also forced into that behaviour for fear of shame. My personal approach is that an O is an O is an O. The more frequent the better. And what!?? Mr Barak Hussein Obama married at the age of 30 right out of virginity? Maybe. All the fuss about The LGBT community is overwhelmed by passion!? I personally know of many who are forced into a corner by society.
The non-LGBT community is also overwhelmed by passion. Of a different kind? Maybe! Many are also forced into that behaviour for fear of shame.
My personal approach is that an O is an O is an O. The more frequent the better.
And what!?? Mr Barak Hussein Obama married at the age of 30 right out of virginity? Maybe.

All the fuss about

]]> By: Ian, Chicago, IL http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114512 Ian, Chicago, IL Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:46:52 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114512 I'm sorry but what is the point of this story? When did everyone get so sensitive and when was is not ok to have an opinion. There are people out there that don't believe in homosexuality and guess what? That's fine! They have a right to their opinion as everyone in this country does and that's what make's our country the way it is. McClurkin's statements aren't hateful - he's not name calling and insulting. The role of the President is for someone that can negotiate and be able to meet with different groups and try and reach agreements while keeping the American peoples best interest at heart. This is the problem with the Democratic party and why we lose these elections. We CANNOT exclude people because they don't agree with one tiny issue we stand for. Obama's doing what he should and he's out trying to get votes and trying to encourage a group of people to see things his way and how he is going to change things in the future. I'm sorry but the only way we are going to get there is if we start tolerating eachother and understand there will always be a difference of opinion. I'm sorry but what is the point of this story? When did everyone get so sensitive and when was is not ok to have an opinion. There are people out there that don't believe in homosexuality and guess what? That's fine! They have a right to their opinion as everyone in this country does and that's what make's our country the way it is. McClurkin's statements aren't hateful – he's not name calling and insulting.

The role of the President is for someone that can negotiate and be able to meet with different groups and try and reach agreements while keeping the American peoples best interest at heart.

This is the problem with the Democratic party and why we lose these elections. We CANNOT exclude people because they don't agree with one tiny issue we stand for.

Obama's doing what he should and he's out trying to get votes and trying to encourage a group of people to see things his way and how he is going to change things in the future. I'm sorry but the only way we are going to get there is if we start tolerating eachother and understand there will always be a difference of opinion.

]]> By: chirs chis http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114511 chirs chis Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:45:12 +0000 http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/10/26/gospel-concert-controversy-tests-obamas-message/#comment-114511 I didn't even read this story and I already know that this guy is messing up Hillary's chances of becomeing the president. www.golden-lamp.com I didn't even read this story and I already know that this guy is messing up Hillary's chances of becomeing the president.

http://www.golden-lamp.com

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